Re: Help Wanted: ApacheCon content committee

[Luke Han]

Count me in, thanks






On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:27 AM +0800, "Gunnar Tapper"  
wrote:










Hi,

I'd be interested in reviewing ApacheCon talks, if needed.

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Reviewed many ApacheCon talks and can do so again if you need.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
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Thanks,

Gunnar
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Re: ApacheCon CFP, review committee needed

[Luke Han]

I'm also happy to help.

Thanks


Best Regards!
-

Luke Han

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Same here, Rich and George.
>
> ++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Chief Architect
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++
> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: George Percivall <gperciv...@opengeospatial.org>
> Reply-To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org>
> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 9:11 AM
> To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon CFP, review committee needed
>
> >Rich,
> >
> >As one of the instigators of a Geospatial Track, I would be pleased to
> >help organize that track.
> >
> >George
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 13, 2016, at 6:57 AM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ladies and Gentlemen,
> >>
> >> I appear to have dropped the ball on an important aspect of the
> >> ApacheCon CFP, and your urgent assistance is needed.
> >>
> >> I need a small committee of assistants to help rate the talks and select
> >> the schedule. Please let me know ASAP if you wish to participate.
> >>
> >> A reminder: We license the ApacheCon brand, and the Apache brand itself,
> >> to a third party to produce our event. We act as subject matter experts
> >> for them, but they make all the final decisions. Being on this committee
> >> does not mean that we are running the event, or even making the
> >>decisions.
> >>
> >> Note 2: This committee will be much smaller than last year, so please
> >> don't be offended if your offer is politely rejected. Having a huge
> >> content committee caused logistical difficulties in the last few events,
> >> and LF has requested that we have a smaller number of participants this
> >> time.
> >>
> >> Note C: LF is putting in place a new CFP system, so we won't be mucking
> >> about with Google Docs this time, for which I'm sure we're all grateful.
> >> We will, however, need to learn and work with their new system.
> >>
> >> Thanks to anybody that can help in this effort.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> >> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >
>
>

Re: 答复: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

[Luke Han]

There are many Chinese in ASF community who could help on this,
We could engage them to help review.

Count me as one:-)

Thanks.

Luke


Best Regards!
-

Luke Han

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Lei Chang <chang.lei...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can do the review.
>
> Cheers
> Lei Chang
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
> wrote:
>
> > ok, I didn't catch you were not committer
> >
> > As Ross points out, you'll become committer after earning merit :)
> > and before that, you can provide content through CMS without being
> > committer:
> > did you try?
> >
> > I can play the committer role and try to get the content and commit after
> > you
> > submitted it, to check that the process works: I just won't be able to
> > really
> > review the content :)
> > notice that I can check what result I get using an automatic translation
> > service: IMHO, this is part of the process that we should try
> >
> > Do we have a chinese speaking committer who could review the content,
> with
> > Apache Way in mind to check that what is explained to chinese speaking
> > people
> > regarding contribution is ok?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > Le mercredi 25 novembre 2015 08:21:35 Ted Liu a écrit :
> > > Yes, that's what we are hoping for. I'd also like to become a committer
> > of
> > > comdev to review and to be able to edit the content.
> >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:56 PM
> > > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China -
> Apache
> > > China Community
> >
> > > yes, that's what I meant: anybody can send patch, a committer must
> commit
> > >
> > > for me, "editing" was about publishing, ie requiring commit privilege.
> > >
> > > but there is a feature I don't really master in CMS for non-committers
> to
> > > easily submit patches: I found the doc [1] but never tried it myself.
> >  This
> > > FAQ entry should probably be one of the first content to be translated
> to
> > > crowd-source translation :)
> > > notice that if a currently non-committer propose a lot of good centent,
> > he
> > > could IMHO be  voted to be committer on comdev (ie not on any code TLP,
> > but
> > > general committer to have the commit bit to the site)
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.apache
> > .
> > >
> >
> org%2fdev%2fcmsref.html%23non-committer=01%7c01%7ctedl%40064d.mgd.micro
> > > soft.com
> > %7c35910a4d30da427a867308d2f56de271%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db
> > > 47%7c1=IuaGJ1X%2bE2ffXNN2d22Jcqg0T1mHUVtf8ey5BlCJoB0%3d
> >
> > > Le mercredi 25 novembre 2015 01:15:31 Ted Liu a écrit :
> > >
> > > > The site content is public. We can get the designated content
> > > > translated, by crowdsourcing to the community volunteers here, then
> > > > send to a Chinese committer to proofread and edit the site.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > > 
> > > > 发件人: Hervé BOUTEMY<mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr>
> > > > 发送时间: ‎2015/‎11/‎25 8:38
> > > > 收件人: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
> > > > 主题: Re: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache
> China
> > > > Community
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't exactly know what you mean by "crowd-source the tasks to the
> > > > OSS community in China": currently, you must be Apache committer to
> be
> > > > able to edit community site Then the first steps to engage people
> will
> > > > have to come from existing chinese
> > >
> > >  speaking committers: explaining non-committers how to send a patch
> > >
> > > > would permit non-committers to help committers improve the content
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Hervé
> > > >
> > > > Le samedi 21 novembre 2015 16:44:26 Ted Liu a écrit :
> 

Re: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

[Luke Han]

One more important thing I would like to emphasize here is there are many
people are consulting me, our members, other ASF members in China about how
to not only contribute code but also bring some projects to ASF. That's I
would like to say more localization content, events, meetups will help a
lot to engage the local community to contribute more to ASF.



Best Regards!
-

Luke Han

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Ted Liu <t...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Understood.
>
>
> Ted
> 
> 发件人: Ted Dunning<mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
> 发送时间: ‎2015/‎11/‎21 22:06
> 收件人: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
> 主题: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu <t...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > p.s. The reason why a Wechat public account is a big plus because it is
> > used by 500M Wechat chatters on daily basis to acquire/learn information.
> > This is a very effective China-specific scenario.
> >
>
> Note that you can use ANY channel or medium to inform people about how
> Apache works or tell them what projects do or share experiences.
>
> It is the development that has to be on the official lists.
>

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

[Luke Han]

Hi Ted L,
I don't think "elites" is good idea here:) we just work very hard to
learn the Apache Way, to engage world wide community and develop our
project for people really need. Many efforts have been spent in spare time
from our committers with their passion and willing to contribution, and the
same thing could be found from other community especially in Spark one,
there are many people from here who are better than us:)


Best Regards!
-----

Luke Han

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Ted Liu <t...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> My apologies if misunderstood from Ted Dunning's earlier comment: " I was
> a mentor on kylin and worried about English being a problem for
> contribution. The real problem is that apache is partially defined by the
> use of English to allow as wide a participation as possible."
>
> I trust Luke and his team are very capable of English communication
> effectively. It is just that it is still minority of such elites in China
> dev community so far and that's the reason why Chinese document for Kylin
> is still needed.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Luke Han [mailto:luke...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:08 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
> >>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache Kylin
> >>incubation
> project and trust that you were also >>aware of the frustrations from both
> side due to language issues
>
> I don't this is true...Language is a little bit challenge as Ted Dunning
> and I have discussed in London and San Jose many times, yes, the Chinese
> developers are not native English speakers but what we have demonstrated in
> Kylin community is both sides are happy to collaboration together, language
> is not a problem.
>
> People intend to discuss with their native language which will bring
> problem to form "official localized community" eventfully, they will try to
> stay within local community. We should engage and bring local developers,
> projects to ASF, not only Chinese and all of the world.
>
> There's WeChat group for Kylin but every time people raised question there
> we will re-direct them to mailing list, to keep only one place to have such
> discussion, even we have to help to translate to English. And the result is
> good (IMO), we engaged many committers from local who are participating in
> the community very well, in English.
>
> Localization is one good idea, which also should be counted as
> contribution with relative project, we could saw there are some Chinese
> docs of HBase, most of Kylin's docs now have both English and Chinese...
>
>
> Best Regards!
> -
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ted Liu <t...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ted, Yes, we want to establish a bridge or a group (if the idea of
> > "China Community" seemed to be intimidating or crazy) to help more
> > devs become contributors and committers to popular projects from the
> > West and to help incubate more Chinese projects to become popular both
> > internationally and domestically. It aims to be a bridge to overcome
> > language barriers and culture differences so that more talents and
> > projects can exchange. We certainly hope this bridge or group can use
> > the Apache name, at least in Chinese 阿帕奇, but not really a MUST if ASF
> > doesn’t support the idea or treat it as a beast. In this case, we'd
> > probably do it with another name not violating ASF trademark.
> >
> > Our idea is to set up a few working groups moderated, mentored by
> > experienced Chinese ASF members, PMC members, committers,
> > contributors, etc. to achieve the above goals. The working groups may
> > be ranging from big data, cloud computing, dev language/framework,
> > community development (including events, meetups, localization, travel
> assistance...), etc.
> >
> > I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache Kylin
> > incubation project and trust that you were also aware of the
> > frustrations from both side due to language issues (and maybe
> not-so-obvious culture difference).
> > Another example is Ali JStorm as an incubation project to the Apache
> > Storm project. Both side probably felt frustrated along the way. Even
> > though there are more English-capable IT people in China nowadays, the
> > pains and misunderstandings of using non-native languages still exist.
> >
> > Due to the much bigger user and dev base in China, I'd put much
> > heavier weigh on hot projects from

Re: Apache on ThoughtWorks Tech Radar

[Luke Han]

Actually, the first time Kylin has been on this radar is in May:
https://assets.thoughtworks.com/assets/technology-radar-may-2015-en.pdf

But I'm not sure is there any changes after that and bring back again.

Anyway, it's great news for both of us:)


Best Regards!
-

Luke Han

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 11:09 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Kylin is brand new.  Mesos and Spark have been up there before, but I
> believe this is the first month they appear directly on the platform page.
> https://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/platforms
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:06 AM Luke Han <luke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Great news...but I think it's not new added this month, right?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards!
> > -
> >
> > Luke Han
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:58 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > In this month's posting of their tech radar, three new Apache
> > technologies
> > > focused on Big Data were added - Kylin, Mesos and Spark.  This is a
> great
> > > accomplishment to all, and I'm wondering if there's someway of getting
> > the
> > > word out about it?
> > >
> > > You can take a look at https://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/a-z#apache
> to
> > > see
> > > the full list of ASF projects, but note that it matches anything with
> the
> > > word apache in it.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> >
>

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

[Luke Han]

>>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache Kylin incubation
project and trust that you were also >>aware of the frustrations from both
side due to language issues

I don't this is true...Language is a little bit challenge as Ted Dunning
and I have discussed in London and San Jose many times, yes, the Chinese
developers are not native English speakers but what we have demonstrated in
Kylin community is both sides are happy to collaboration together, language
is not a problem.

People intend to discuss with their native language which will bring
problem to form "official localized community" eventfully, they will try to
stay within local community. We should engage and bring local developers,
projects to ASF, not only Chinese and all of the world.

There's WeChat group for Kylin but every time people raised question there
we will re-direct them to mailing list, to keep only one place to have such
discussion, even we have to help to translate to English. And the result is
good (IMO), we engaged many committers from local who are participating in
the community very well, in English.

Localization is one good idea, which also should be counted as contribution
with relative project, we could saw there are some Chinese docs of HBase,
most of Kylin's docs now have both English and Chinese...


Best Regards!
-----

Luke Han

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ted Liu <t...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi Ted, Yes, we want to establish a bridge or a group (if the idea of
> "China Community" seemed to be intimidating or crazy) to help more devs
> become contributors and committers to popular projects from the West and to
> help incubate more Chinese projects to become popular both internationally
> and domestically. It aims to be a bridge to overcome language barriers and
> culture differences so that more talents and projects can exchange. We
> certainly hope this bridge or group can use the Apache name, at least in
> Chinese 阿帕奇, but not really a MUST if ASF doesn’t support the idea or treat
> it as a beast. In this case, we'd probably do it with another name not
> violating ASF trademark.
>
> Our idea is to set up a few working groups moderated, mentored by
> experienced Chinese ASF members, PMC members, committers, contributors,
> etc. to achieve the above goals. The working groups may be ranging from big
> data, cloud computing, dev language/framework, community development
> (including events, meetups, localization, travel assistance...), etc.
>
> I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache Kylin incubation
> project and trust that you were also aware of the frustrations from both
> side due to language issues (and maybe not-so-obvious culture difference).
> Another example is Ali JStorm as an incubation project to the Apache Storm
> project. Both side probably felt frustrated along the way. Even though
> there are more English-capable IT people in China nowadays, the pains and
> misunderstandings of using non-native languages still exist.
>
> Due to the much bigger user and dev base in China, I'd put much heavier
> weigh on hot projects from the West, e.g. Spark, Hadoop, etc. over the
> Chinese-originated projects like Kylin. So the localization priority is
> obvious.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:33 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
>
> Ted
>
> I think apache can help you with some needs, but not all.  Apache is
> enthusiastic about helping people interact with our English-centric mailing
> lists.  Apache would likely help you figure out how to set up Chinese
> language open source projects as well.
>
> I don't understand if that is what you want.  You say "within apache". But
> I also thought you wanted to help developers who don't have enough English.
>
> It sounds like you need more than one answer to more than one question.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 21, 2015, at 19:24, Ted Liu <t...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > Our initiative wants/desires to be inside of ASF as close as possible
> and to avoid any trademark violation. If it is a no-go, I guess the
> volunteer group here will still do the right things to help enable and
> motivate developers and projects, with or without ASF’s trademark/banner.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:46 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> > Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fan