Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Steven Gill]

Sent a PR adding a deprecation notice. When users try to cordova platform
add, they will see a warning telling them wp8 has been deprecated and to
use windows instead. The platform will still add for now. We can wait 6
months before removing support for it.

https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/362/files

On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 3:53 AM, Philipp Kursawe 
wrote:

> +1
> WP8 always dragged in the C# runtime which increased memory footprint.
> Most of the things that plugins for WP8 do can now be better done in WinRT,
> which is available from Windows Phone 8.1.
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Sergio Nader <
> sergio.na...@brasilisdigital.com.br> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Julio. I really have missed the answer.
> > Regards!
> >
> > Sérgio Nader
> >
> > Skype: sergio.nader.br
> >
> > Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590
> >
> >
> >
> > ​www.brasilisdigital.com.br
> >
> > Tecnologia & Inovação​
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Tommy Williams 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 9 Dec 2015, at 9:45 AM, Jesse  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Philipp Kursawe]

+1
WP8 always dragged in the C# runtime which increased memory footprint.
Most of the things that plugins for WP8 do can now be better done in WinRT,
which is available from Windows Phone 8.1.

On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Sergio Nader <
sergio.na...@brasilisdigital.com.br> wrote:

> Thanks, Julio. I really have missed the answer.
> Regards!
>
> Sérgio Nader
>
> Skype: sergio.nader.br
>
> Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590
>
>
>
> ​www.brasilisdigital.com.br
>
> Tecnologia & Inovação​
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Tommy Williams 
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 9 Dec 2015, at 9:45 AM, Jesse  wrote:
> > >
> > > Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Tommy Williams]

+1 




> On 9 Dec 2015, at 9:45 AM, Jesse  wrote:
> 
> Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Sergio Nader]

Thanks, Julio. I really have missed the answer.
Regards!

Sérgio Nader

Skype: sergio.nader.br

Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590



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On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Tommy Williams  wrote:

> +1
>
>
>
>
> > On 9 Dec 2015, at 9:45 AM, Jesse  wrote:
> >
> > Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.
>
>

RE: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Parashuram N]

I pinged the folks here on VS team to get an idea of number of people building 
for WP8. Looks like this is still a significant number (more than 10%) and 
almost 2000 unique users building for WP8 per month. Can we delay the 
deprecation for 3 more months to see if this number can go down ? 

-Original Message-
From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:06 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 has been a 
work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun is setting.

cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and allows 
developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10 as well.
Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now ancient code 
base will free many of us to focus on making the windows universal workflow 
better.

I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which for me is the 
end of next week.

Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
- display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform add wp8` ( 
next cordova-lib/cli release )
- provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage existing C# 
code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this )
- update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
- close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
- put wp8 out to pasture

What are your thoughts?


Cheers,
  Jesse

@purplecabbage
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RE: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Parashuram N]

The Cordova Slack at http://cordova.slack.com/ would be a good place to start. 

-Original Message-
From: Sergio Nader [mailto:sergio.na...@brasilisdigital.com.br] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 3:41 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

Hello,

I have several questions about the diferences and uses of wp8, windows 
(universal).
I tried hard to find some objective readings about them, but could not found 
anything concise.
Where is the right place to ask for orientation?

Best regards,

Sergio

Sérgio Nader

Skype: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=sergio.nader.br=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d300299415%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=u3mM56jO%2byqQI%2f216zKZNDa0LJv3BaN4n2EvzZ%2bvr6c%3d

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On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The deprecation window is a 'minimum' of 6 months.
> Waiting 3 months to maybe wait 6 more months seems less efficient than 
> deprecating now and deciding in 6 months time if we want to move on it.
> Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.
>
> Also, we need to nudge people to move forwards, they are building on a 
> sdk that can only target wp 8.0 which was released 3 years ago.
> If we value this group and want to continue supporting the platform 
> then we should bite the bullet and update it to at least support 8.1 
> (Apr. 2014) but I think we are better off focusing on windows universal going 
> forward.
>
>
>
> @purplecabbage
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d300299415%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=bqFj%2fQbrkwxV1oreM2vw59FIo
> %2bMCgXQzq1zJ8t4dSdE%3d
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I pinged the folks here on VS team to get an idea of number of 
> > people building for WP8. Looks like this is still a significant 
> > number (more
> than
> > 10%) and almost 2000 unique users building for WP8 per month. Can we
> delay
> > the deprecation for 3 more months to see if this number can go down ?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:06 AM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
> >
> > We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 
> > has been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun 
> > is
> setting.
> >
> > cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and 
> > allows developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and 
> > wp10 as well.
> > Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now 
> > ancient code base will free many of us to focus on making the 
> > windows universal workflow better.
> >
> > I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which 
> > for me is the end of next week.
> >
> > Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> > - display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform 
> > add
> wp8`
> > ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> > - provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage 
> > existing C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this 
> > )
> > - update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> > - close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
> > - put wp8 out to pasture
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Jesse
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> >
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com=01
> %7c01%7ctoddmosc%40microsoft.com%7c627f22cbc05040478d9808d2fb4bb85c%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=baC3YZLF3cU%2fbC5ZYH7QvBtpy
> YtxBhJhkQd57sERCC0%3d
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[julio cesar sanchez]

+1 to Jesse, deprecation doesn't mean they won't be able to use it.

Parashuram, can you get stats about the number of devices or percentaje of
devices that still use WP8? like windows store device access stats or
something like that

Sergio, you got an answer on cordova's slack general channel.
vladimir.kotikov <https://cordova.slack.com/team/vladimir.kotikov>
10:56 AM <https://cordova.slack.com/archives/general/p1447667769000199>
@sergion <https://cordova.slack.com/team/sergion>: wp8 platform is for
building apps for wp8/wp8.1 devices only. It is a bit outdated, and there
are some rumors about deprecating. So i recommend you to use windows
platform which gives you an ability to target WinPhone 8.1 and 10 devices,
as well as Windows desktop.



2015-12-09 1:01 GMT+01:00 Sergio Nader <sergio.na...@brasilisdigital.com.br>
:

> Thanks, but I tried a couple of times to ask about it (and other stuff) and
> got no answer.
> Weil, will not change the subject of this conversation. If anyone can help
> me or have any other suggestion, please email directly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sérgio Nader
>
> Skype: sergio.nader.br
>
> Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590
>
>
>
> ​www.brasilisdigital.com.br
>
> Tecnologia & Inovação​
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The Cordova Slack at http://cordova.slack.com/ would be a good place to
> > start.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sergio Nader [mailto:sergio.na...@brasilisdigital.com.br]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 3:41 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have several questions about the diferences and uses of wp8, windows
> > (universal).
> > I tried hard to find some objective readings about them, but could not
> > found anything concise.
> > Where is the right place to ask for orientation?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Sergio
> >
> > Sérgio Nader
> >
> > Skype:
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=sergio.nader.br=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d300299415%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=u3mM56jO%2byqQI%2f216zKZNDa0LJv3BaN4n2EvzZ%2bvr6c%3d
> >
> > Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590
> >
> >
> >
> > ​
> >
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> >
> > Tecnologia & Inovação​
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The deprecation window is a 'minimum' of 6 months.
> > > Waiting 3 months to maybe wait 6 more months seems less efficient than
> > > deprecating now and deciding in 6 months time if we want to move on it.
> > > Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.
> > >
> > > Also, we need to nudge people to move forwards, they are building on a
> > > sdk that can only target wp 8.0 which was released 3 years ago.
> > > If we value this group and want to continue supporting the platform
> > > then we should bite the bullet and update it to at least support 8.1
> > > (Apr. 2014) but I think we are better off focusing on windows universal
> > going forward.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > @purplecabbage
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com=01
> > > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d300299415%7c
> > > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=bqFj%2fQbrkwxV1oreM2vw59FIo
> > > %2bMCgXQzq1zJ8t4dSdE%3d
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I pinged the folks here on VS team to get an idea of number of
> > > > people building for WP8. Looks like this is still a significant
> > > > number (more
> > > than
> > > > 10%) and almost 2000 unique users building for WP8 per month. Can we
> > > delay
> > > > the deprecation for 3 more months to see if this number can go down ?
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:06 AM
> > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > > Subject: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
> > > >
> > > > We've talked ab

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Sergio Nader]

Hello,

I have several questions about the diferences and uses of wp8, windows
(universal).
I tried hard to find some objective readings about them, but could not
found anything concise.
Where is the right place to ask for orientation?

Best regards,

Sergio

Sérgio Nader

Skype: sergio.nader.br

Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590



​www.brasilisdigital.com.br

Tecnologia & Inovação​


On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Jesse  wrote:

> The deprecation window is a 'minimum' of 6 months.
> Waiting 3 months to maybe wait 6 more months seems less efficient than
> deprecating now and deciding in 6 months time if we want to move on it.
> Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.
>
> Also, we need to nudge people to move forwards, they are building on a sdk
> that can only target wp 8.0 which was released 3 years ago.
> If we value this group and want to continue supporting the platform then we
> should bite the bullet and update it to at least support 8.1 (Apr. 2014)
> but I think we are better off focusing on windows universal going forward.
>
>
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Parashuram N 
> wrote:
>
> > I pinged the folks here on VS team to get an idea of number of people
> > building for WP8. Looks like this is still a significant number (more
> than
> > 10%) and almost 2000 unique users building for WP8 per month. Can we
> delay
> > the deprecation for 3 more months to see if this number can go down ?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:06 AM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
> >
> > We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 has
> > been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun is
> setting.
> >
> > cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and
> > allows developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10 as
> > well.
> > Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now ancient
> > code base will free many of us to focus on making the windows universal
> > workflow better.
> >
> > I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which for me
> > is the end of next week.
> >
> > Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> > - display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform add
> wp8`
> > ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> > - provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage existing
> > C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this )
> > - update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> > - close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
> > - put wp8 out to pasture
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Jesse
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> >
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com=01%7c01%7ctoddmosc%40microsoft.com%7c627f22cbc05040478d9808d2fb4bb85c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=baC3YZLF3cU%2fbC5ZYH7QvBtpyYtxBhJhkQd57sERCC0%3d
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Sergio Nader]

Thanks, but I tried a couple of times to ask about it (and other stuff) and
got no answer.
Weil, will not change the subject of this conversation. If anyone can help
me or have any other suggestion, please email directly.

Regards,

Sérgio Nader

Skype: sergio.nader.br

Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590



​www.brasilisdigital.com.br

Tecnologia & Inovação​


On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> The Cordova Slack at http://cordova.slack.com/ would be a good place to
> start.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sergio Nader [mailto:sergio.na...@brasilisdigital.com.br]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 3:41 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
>
> Hello,
>
> I have several questions about the diferences and uses of wp8, windows
> (universal).
> I tried hard to find some objective readings about them, but could not
> found anything concise.
> Where is the right place to ask for orientation?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sergio
>
> Sérgio Nader
>
> Skype:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=sergio.nader.br=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d300299415%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=u3mM56jO%2byqQI%2f216zKZNDa0LJv3BaN4n2EvzZ%2bvr6c%3d
>
> Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590
>
>
>
> ​
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>
> Tecnologia & Inovação​
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The deprecation window is a 'minimum' of 6 months.
> > Waiting 3 months to maybe wait 6 more months seems less efficient than
> > deprecating now and deciding in 6 months time if we want to move on it.
> > Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.
> >
> > Also, we need to nudge people to move forwards, they are building on a
> > sdk that can only target wp 8.0 which was released 3 years ago.
> > If we value this group and want to continue supporting the platform
> > then we should bite the bullet and update it to at least support 8.1
> > (Apr. 2014) but I think we are better off focusing on windows universal
> going forward.
> >
> >
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com=01
> > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d300299415%7c
> > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=bqFj%2fQbrkwxV1oreM2vw59FIo
> > %2bMCgXQzq1zJ8t4dSdE%3d
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I pinged the folks here on VS team to get an idea of number of
> > > people building for WP8. Looks like this is still a significant
> > > number (more
> > than
> > > 10%) and almost 2000 unique users building for WP8 per month. Can we
> > delay
> > > the deprecation for 3 more months to see if this number can go down ?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:06 AM
> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > Subject: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
> > >
> > > We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8
> > > has been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun
> > > is
> > setting.
> > >
> > > cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and
> > > allows developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and
> > > wp10 as well.
> > > Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now
> > > ancient code base will free many of us to focus on making the
> > > windows universal workflow better.
> > >
> > > I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which
> > > for me is the end of next week.
> > >
> > > Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> > > - display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform
> > > add
> > wp8`
> > > ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> > > - provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage
> > > existing C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this
> > > )
> > > - update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> > > - close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
> > > - put wp8 out to pasture
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >   Jesse
> > >
> > > @purplecabbage
> > >
> > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com=01
> > %7c01%7ctoddmosc%40microsoft.com%7c627f22cbc05040478d9808d2fb4bb85c%7c
> > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=baC3YZLF3cU%2fbC5ZYH7QvBtpy
> > YtxBhJhkQd57sERCC0%3d
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Jesse]

The deprecation window is a 'minimum' of 6 months.
Waiting 3 months to maybe wait 6 more months seems less efficient than
deprecating now and deciding in 6 months time if we want to move on it.
Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it.

Also, we need to nudge people to move forwards, they are building on a sdk
that can only target wp 8.0 which was released 3 years ago.
If we value this group and want to continue supporting the platform then we
should bite the bullet and update it to at least support 8.1 (Apr. 2014)
but I think we are better off focusing on windows universal going forward.



@purplecabbage
risingj.com

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Parashuram N 
wrote:

> I pinged the folks here on VS team to get an idea of number of people
> building for WP8. Looks like this is still a significant number (more than
> 10%) and almost 2000 unique users building for WP8 per month. Can we delay
> the deprecation for 3 more months to see if this number can go down ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:06 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
>
> We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 has
> been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun is setting.
>
> cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and
> allows developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10 as
> well.
> Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now ancient
> code base will free many of us to focus on making the windows universal
> workflow better.
>
> I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which for me
> is the end of next week.
>
> Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> - display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform add wp8`
> ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> - provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage existing
> C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this )
> - update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> - close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
> - put wp8 out to pasture
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Jesse
>
> @purplecabbage
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Carlos Santana]

+1
Focusing on Universal and more doc around leveraging native is a good
strategy
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:33 AM julio cesar sanchez <jcesarmob...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1, I updated my device as soon as I could and all people I know that had
> WP8 did the same
>
> 2015-12-03 3:38 GMT+01:00 Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>:
>
> > I am in the process of getting number of folks from VS who may be using
> > WP8. These numbers should be able to add more data to this decision.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/2/15, 4:05 PM, "Tommy Williams" <to...@devgeeks.org> wrote:
> >
> > >+1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Dec 3 2015, at 10:47 am, Tim Barham tim.bar...@microsoft.com
> 
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >> Oh yes please :).
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >> \-Original Message-
> > >From: Anis KADRI [mailto:anis.ka...@gmail.com]
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 5:58 AM
> > >To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:32 AM Steven Gill &
> lt;stevengil...@gmail.com
> > 
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >>  +1
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com
> > 
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >  We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it.
> > cordova-wp8
> > >  has been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the
> > sun
> > >  is
> > > setting.
> > > 
> > >  cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time
> > now, and
> > > allows
> > >  developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10
> > as
> > >well.
> > >  Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this
> now
> > >  ancient code base will free many of us to focus on making the
> > >  windows universal workflow better.
> > > 
> > >  I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year,
> > which
> > >  for me
> > > is
> > >  the end of next week.
> > > 
> > >  Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> > >  \- display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova
> > platform
> > >  add
> > > wp8`
> > >  ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> > >  \- provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to
> > leverage
> > >  existing C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will
> do
> > this
> > >  )
> > >  \- update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> > >  \- close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't
> fix'
> > >  \- put wp8 out to pasture
> > > 
> > >  What are your thoughts?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  Cheers,
> > >  Jesse
> > > 
> > >  @purplecabbage
> > > 
> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Steven Gill]

+1

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jesse  wrote:

> We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 has
> been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun is setting.
>
> cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and allows
> developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10 as well.
> Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now ancient
> code base will free many of us to focus on making the windows universal
> workflow better.
>
> I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which for me is
> the end of next week.
>
> Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> - display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform add wp8`
> ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> - provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage existing
> C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this )
> - update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> - close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
> - put wp8 out to pasture
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Jesse
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Anis KADRI]

+1

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:32 AM Steven Gill  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jesse  wrote:
>
> > We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 has
> > been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun is
> setting.
> >
> > cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and
> allows
> > developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10 as well.
> > Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now ancient
> > code base will free many of us to focus on making the windows universal
> > workflow better.
> >
> > I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which for me
> is
> > the end of next week.
> >
> > Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> > - display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform add
> wp8`
> > ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> > - provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage existing
> > C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this )
> > - update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> > - close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
> > - put wp8 out to pasture
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Jesse
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[julio cesar sanchez]

+1, I updated my device as soon as I could and all people I know that had
WP8 did the same

2015-12-03 3:38 GMT+01:00 Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>:

> I am in the process of getting number of folks from VS who may be using
> WP8. These numbers should be able to add more data to this decision.
>
>
>
>
> On 12/2/15, 4:05 PM, "Tommy Williams" <to...@devgeeks.org> wrote:
>
> >+1
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 3 2015, at 10:47 am, Tim Barham tim.bar...@microsoft.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Oh yes please :).
> >
> >>
> >
> >> \-Original Message-----
> >From: Anis KADRI [mailto:anis.ka...@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 5:58 AM
> >To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
> >
> >>
> >
> >> +1
> >
> >>
> >
> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:32 AM Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com
> 
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >>  +1
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com
> 
> >wrote:
> >
> >  We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it.
> cordova-wp8
> >  has been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the
> sun
> >  is
> > setting.
> > 
> >  cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time
> now, and
> > allows
> >  developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10
> as
> >well.
> >  Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now
> >  ancient code base will free many of us to focus on making the
> >  windows universal workflow better.
> > 
> >  I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year,
> which
> >  for me
> > is
> >  the end of next week.
> > 
> >  Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> >  \- display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova
> platform
> >  add
> > wp8`
> >  ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> >  \- provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to
> leverage
> >  existing C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do
> this
> >  )
> >  \- update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> >  \- close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
> >  \- put wp8 out to pasture
> > 
> >  What are your thoughts?
> > 
> > 
> >  Cheers,
> >  Jesse
> > 
> >  @purplecabbage
> > 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Parashuram N]

I am in the process of getting number of folks from VS who may be using WP8. 
These numbers should be able to add more data to this decision. 




On 12/2/15, 4:05 PM, "Tommy Williams" <to...@devgeeks.org> wrote:

>+1
>
>  
>
>> On Dec 3 2015, at 10:47 am, Tim Barham tim.bar...@microsoft.com
>wrote:  
>
>>
>
>> Oh yes please :).
>
>>
>
>> \-Original Message-  
>From: Anis KADRI [mailto:anis.ka...@gmail.com]  
>Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 5:58 AM  
>To: dev@cordova.apache.org  
>Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8
>
>>
>
>> +1
>
>>
>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:32 AM Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com
>wrote:
>
>>
>
>>  +1  
>  
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com
>wrote:  
>  
>  We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 
> 
>  has been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun  
>  is  
> setting.  
>   
>  cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and 
> 
> allows  
>  developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10 as
>well.  
>  Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now  
>  ancient code base will free many of us to focus on making the  
>  windows universal workflow better.  
>   
>  I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which  
>  for me  
> is  
>  the end of next week.  
>   
>  Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :  
>  \- display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform  
>  add  
> wp8`  
>  ( next cordova-lib/cli release )  
>  \- provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage  
>  existing C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this 
> 
>  )  
>  \- update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on  
>  \- close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'  
>  \- put wp8 out to pasture  
>   
>  What are your thoughts?  
>   
>   
>  Cheers,  
>  Jesse  
>   
>  @purplecabbage  
> 
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RE: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Tim Barham]

Oh yes please :).

-Original Message-
From: Anis KADRI [mailto:anis.ka...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 5:58 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

+1

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:32 AM Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 
> > has been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun 
> > is
> setting.
> >
> > cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and
> allows
> > developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10 as well.
> > Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now 
> > ancient code base will free many of us to focus on making the 
> > windows universal workflow better.
> >
> > I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which 
> > for me
> is
> > the end of next week.
> >
> > Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :
> > - display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform 
> > add
> wp8`
> > ( next cordova-lib/cli release )
> > - provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage 
> > existing C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this 
> > )
> > - update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on
> > - close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'
> > - put wp8 out to pasture
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Jesse
> >
> > @purplecabbage
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Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

[Tommy Williams]

+1

  

> On Dec 3 2015, at 10:47 am, Tim Barham tim.bar...@microsoft.com
wrote:  

>

> Oh yes please :).

>

> \-Original Message-  
From: Anis KADRI [mailto:anis.ka...@gmail.com]  
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 5:58 AM  
To: dev@cordova.apache.org  
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8

>

> +1

>

> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:32 AM Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com
wrote:

>

>  +1  
  
 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com
wrote:  
  
  We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8  
  has been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun  
  is  
 setting.  
   
  cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and  
 allows  
  developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and wp10 as
well.  
  Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now  
  ancient code base will free many of us to focus on making the  
  windows universal workflow better.  
   
  I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which  
  for me  
 is  
  the end of next week.  
   
  Some suggestions of what needs to happen next :  
  \- display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform  
  add  
 wp8`  
  ( next cordova-lib/cli release )  
  \- provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage  
  existing C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this  
  )  
  \- update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on  
  \- close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix'  
  \- put wp8 out to pasture  
   
  What are your thoughts?  
   
   
  Cheers,  
  Jesse  
   
  @purplecabbage  
 
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