Re: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.

2015-09-09 Thread Jesse 
We still need it.
There is a very important and difficult workflow for people who want to add
a 'little' cordova to an existing app. Think of a visual studio wizard to
add a cordova view to an existing app.
The reality of it is simply that it is architected as a secondary module,
so we can easily rework the functionality into other workflows.  Ideally
this should not affect the mainstream cordova workflow in any way, and I
don't think it has been.
I would expect these numbers to rise in the near future.


My team is hiring!
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <nikhi...@microsoft.com>
wrote:

> Do we even need a plugman CLI now? Monthly download counts on npm have
> remained steady at around 25K or so. [1]
>
> I know our docs talk about a platform-centric workflow whereby there is no
> cordova CLI and a platform is used on its own, and the plugman CLI might be
> needed. It's not clear to me how popular that workflow is and something we
> need to support.
>
> [1] http://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=plugman===
>
> -Nikhil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhi...@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:21 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.
>
> This looks great. It will be good to reference our previous blog post
> about this announcement:
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcordova.apache.org%2fannouncements%2f2015%2f04%2f21%2fplugins-release-and-move-to-npm.html=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ceed8f7f58fdb4e6ea71708d2b4e8b53d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=2w2%2b2FtDC0S8gUkHQ7jmui26kaoY3HTe%2fvsrY0HhX9w%3d
> - just to let devs know that this is not the first time we're talking about
> this.
>
> -Nikhil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 5:50 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.
>
> Replace "read-only" , it's soo 2014
> Use "immutable" sounds more hipster :-)
>
> Other than that looks good to me, I notice you don't mentioned plugman
> cli. I think is OK to make general use to be cordova cli.
>
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks good. Spelling "swithed"
> >
> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Please review.
> >>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fcordova%2fapache-blog-posts%2fblob%2fmaster%2f2015-09-03-CPR-readonly.md=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cdfd3d7c4de9d4bb4889b08d2b4c2bf24%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=IDvO8xH%2fZvE5qfsebJIVW0GBI57LWpYAY71X7%2bbzs3w%3d
> >>
> >> Anything else I should add?
> >>
> >> -Steve
> >>
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Re: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.

2015-09-09 Thread Steven Gill 
I actually think the numbers will drop over time. Plugman has lost registry
functionality (publishing, unpublishing, owners, etc). Plugin installation
is moving into platforms instead of tools. That will signify the end of
needing a tool to install plugins for non cli workflows. Will still be
needed for backwards compatibility for a while though.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We still need it.
> There is a very important and difficult workflow for people who want to add
> a 'little' cordova to an existing app. Think of a visual studio wizard to
> add a cordova view to an existing app.
> The reality of it is simply that it is architected as a secondary module,
> so we can easily rework the functionality into other workflows.  Ideally
> this should not affect the mainstream cordova workflow in any way, and I
> don't think it has been.
> I would expect these numbers to rise in the near future.
>
>
> My team is hiring!
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <nikhi...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Do we even need a plugman CLI now? Monthly download counts on npm have
> > remained steady at around 25K or so. [1]
> >
> > I know our docs talk about a platform-centric workflow whereby there is
> no
> > cordova CLI and a platform is used on its own, and the plugman CLI might
> be
> > needed. It's not clear to me how popular that workflow is and something
> we
> > need to support.
> >
> > [1] http://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=plugman===
> >
> > -Nikhil
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhi...@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:21 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.
> >
> > This looks great. It will be good to reference our previous blog post
> > about this announcement:
> >
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcordova.apache.org%2fannouncements%2f2015%2f04%2f21%2fplugins-release-and-move-to-npm.html=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ceed8f7f58fdb4e6ea71708d2b4e8b53d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=2w2%2b2FtDC0S8gUkHQ7jmui26kaoY3HTe%2fvsrY0HhX9w%3d
> > - just to let devs know that this is not the first time we're talking
> about
> > this.
> >
> > -Nikhil
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 5:50 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.
> >
> > Replace "read-only" , it's soo 2014
> > Use "immutable" sounds more hipster :-)
> >
> > Other than that looks good to me, I notice you don't mentioned plugman
> > cli. I think is OK to make general use to be cordova cli.
> >
> >
> > - Carlos
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 3, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks good. Spelling "swithed"
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Please review.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fcordova%2fapache-blog-posts%2fblob%2fmaster%2f2015-09-03-CPR-readonly.md=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cdfd3d7c4de9d4bb4889b08d2b4c2bf24%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=IDvO8xH%2fZvE5qfsebJIVW0GBI57LWpYAY71X7%2bbzs3w%3d
> > >>
> > >> Anything else I should add?
> > >>
> > >> -Steve
> > >>
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RE: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.

2015-09-08 Thread Nikhil Khandelwal 
Do we even need a plugman CLI now? Monthly download counts on npm have remained 
steady at around 25K or so. [1]

I know our docs talk about a platform-centric workflow whereby there is no 
cordova CLI and a platform is used on its own, and the plugman CLI might be 
needed. It's not clear to me how popular that workflow is and something we need 
to support.

[1] http://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=plugman===

-Nikhil

-Original Message-
From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhi...@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:21 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: RE: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.

This looks great. It will be good to reference our previous blog post about 
this announcement:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcordova.apache.org%2fannouncements%2f2015%2f04%2f21%2fplugins-release-and-move-to-npm.html=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ceed8f7f58fdb4e6ea71708d2b4e8b53d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=2w2%2b2FtDC0S8gUkHQ7jmui26kaoY3HTe%2fvsrY0HhX9w%3d
 - just to let devs know that this is not the first time we're talking about 
this.

-Nikhil

-Original Message-
From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 5:50 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.

Replace "read-only" , it's soo 2014
Use "immutable" sounds more hipster :-)

Other than that looks good to me, I notice you don't mentioned plugman cli. I 
think is OK to make general use to be cordova cli. 


- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Looks good. Spelling "swithed"
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Please review.
>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fcordova%2fapache-blog-posts%2fblob%2fmaster%2f2015-09-03-CPR-readonly.md=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cdfd3d7c4de9d4bb4889b08d2b4c2bf24%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=IDvO8xH%2fZvE5qfsebJIVW0GBI57LWpYAY71X7%2bbzs3w%3d
>> 
>> Anything else I should add?
>> 
>> -Steve
>> 

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Re: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.

2015-09-03 Thread Shazron 
Looks good. Spelling "swithed"

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Steven Gill  wrote:

> Please review.
>
> https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2015-09-03-CPR-readonly.md
>
> Anything else I should add?
>
> -Steve
>

Re: [REVIEW] CPR readonly blog post.

2015-09-03 Thread Carlos Santana 
Replace "read-only" , it's soo 2014
Use "immutable" sounds more hipster :-)

Other than that looks good to me, I notice you don't mentioned plugman cli. I 
think is OK to make general use to be cordova cli. 


- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Shazron  wrote:
>  
> Looks good. Spelling "swithed"
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Steven Gill  wrote:
>> 
>> Please review.
>> 
>> https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2015-09-03-CPR-readonly.md
>> 
>> Anything else I should add?
>> 
>> -Steve
>> 

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