Re: Crail draft podling report June 2020
On 6/3/2020 1:32, Julian Hyde wrote: Thanks for the draft report. It looks good, and I'll sign it when it's final. This paragraph was interesting and, I thought, very accurate: Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on the code base. It is critical the Crail developers community resumes to be more active to keep the project making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion in a next release is of common interest among the committers. Does anyone have any thoughts about how we can achieve these goals? Adrian is working on it he says, and he is willing to push it if he reached some reasonable status. I wondered how we could promote "Crail as an ephemeral data store for serverless computing". A blog post? What I currently try is to bring some use cases via European Union sponsored research project(s) which use Serverless environments. This would involve real world customer use cases. Not yet clear if we get it granted though. Or have you considered a "Powered by Crail" page highlighting companies/projects that are using it? We have such a page in Calcite [1] and it's very popular - especially the graphic showing logos. That would be nice. We "just" have to trigger the use cases... Best, Bernard. Julian [1] On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:48 PM Felix Cheung wrote: Thanks - The wiki is now using the same credentials as your Apache account - have you tried that? From: bernard metzler Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:04:00 AM To: dev@crail.apache.org Subject: Crail draft podling report June 2020 Please find below a draft podling report for Crail, subject to discussion, suggestions, changes, etc. Initially I wanted to directly put that in at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/June2020 to edit online with you. Unfortunately I lost my Confluence password for login, and any attempt to reset it ends up with "An internal error occurred when trying to change your password." In the interest of time, and assuming others on the list still have access, I'd ask one of you to put it in later today if we agreed on the content. Thanks, Bernard. Here is what I have in mind as a report so far: --- Crail Crail is a storage platform for sharing performance critical data in distributed data processing jobs at very high speed. Crail has been incubating since 2017-11-01. - Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating: 1. Grow developers community 2. Grow Crail use base 3. More steady release cycle - Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of? no. - How has the community developed since the last report? We see increasing traffic on the dev mailing list from Crail users. A recent proposal from Adrian to add elastic scaling got positive feedback from other committers. - How has the project developed since the last report? Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on the code base. It is critical the Crail developers community resumes to be more active to keep the project making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion in a next release is of common interest among the committers. - How would you assess the podling's maturity? (Please feel free to add your own commentary.) Initial setup Working towards first release x Community building Nearing graduation Other: - Date of last release: 2020-01-14 - When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? December 4th, 2018 - Have your mentors been helpful and responsive? yes.
Re: Crail draft podling report June 2020
Oops, forgot the link: [1] https://calcite.apache.org/docs/powered_by.html On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 4:32 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > > Thanks for the draft report. It looks good, and I'll sign it when it's final. > > This paragraph was interesting and, I thought, very accurate: > > > Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on > > the code base. It is critical the Crail developers > > community resumes to be more active to keep the project > > making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data > > store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable > > use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion > > in a next release is of common interest among the > > committers. > > Does anyone have any thoughts about how we can achieve these goals? > > I wondered how we could promote "Crail as an ephemeral data store for > serverless computing". A blog post? > > Or have you considered a "Powered by Crail" page highlighting > companies/projects that are using it? We have such a page in Calcite > [1] and it's very popular - especially the graphic showing logos. > > Julian > > [1] > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:48 PM Felix Cheung wrote: > > > > Thanks - The wiki is now using the same credentials as your Apache account > > - have you tried that? > > > > > > ____ > > From: bernard metzler > > Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:04:00 AM > > To: dev@crail.apache.org > > Subject: Crail draft podling report June 2020 > > > > Please find below a draft podling report for Crail, > > subject to discussion, suggestions, changes, etc. > > > > Initially I wanted to directly put that in at > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/June2020 > > > > to edit online with you. Unfortunately I lost my > > Confluence password for login, and any attempt to reset > > it ends up with "An internal error occurred when trying > > to change your password." In the interest of time, and > > assuming others on the list still have access, I'd ask > > one of you to put it in later today if we agreed on the > > content. > > > > Thanks, > > Bernard. > > > > > > Here is what I have in mind as a report so far: > > > > --- > > Crail > > > > Crail is a storage platform for sharing performance critical data in > > distributed data processing jobs at very high speed. > > > > Crail has been incubating since 2017-11-01. > > - Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating: > > > > 1. Grow developers community > > 2. Grow Crail use base > > 3. More steady release cycle > > > > - Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of? > > > > no. > > > > - How has the community developed since the last report? > > > > We see increasing traffic on the dev mailing list from > > Crail users. A recent proposal from Adrian to add elastic > > scaling got positive feedback from other committers. > > > > - How has the project developed since the last report? > > > > Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on > > the code base. It is critical the Crail developers > > community resumes to be more active to keep the project > > making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data > > store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable > > use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion > > in a next release is of common interest among the > > committers. > > > > - How would you assess the podling's maturity? > > > > (Please feel free to add your own commentary.) > > > > Initial setup > > Working towards first release > > x Community building > > Nearing graduation > > Other: > > > > - Date of last release: > > > > 2020-01-14 > > > > - When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? > > > > December 4th, 2018 > > > > - Have your mentors been helpful and responsive? > > > > yes.
Re: Crail draft podling report June 2020
Thanks for the draft report. It looks good, and I'll sign it when it's final. This paragraph was interesting and, I thought, very accurate: > Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on > the code base. It is critical the Crail developers > community resumes to be more active to keep the project > making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data > store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable > use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion > in a next release is of common interest among the > committers. Does anyone have any thoughts about how we can achieve these goals? I wondered how we could promote "Crail as an ephemeral data store for serverless computing". A blog post? Or have you considered a "Powered by Crail" page highlighting companies/projects that are using it? We have such a page in Calcite [1] and it's very popular - especially the graphic showing logos. Julian [1] On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:48 PM Felix Cheung wrote: > > Thanks - The wiki is now using the same credentials as your Apache account - > have you tried that? > > > > From: bernard metzler > Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:04:00 AM > To: dev@crail.apache.org > Subject: Crail draft podling report June 2020 > > Please find below a draft podling report for Crail, > subject to discussion, suggestions, changes, etc. > > Initially I wanted to directly put that in at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/June2020 > > to edit online with you. Unfortunately I lost my > Confluence password for login, and any attempt to reset > it ends up with "An internal error occurred when trying > to change your password." In the interest of time, and > assuming others on the list still have access, I'd ask > one of you to put it in later today if we agreed on the > content. > > Thanks, > Bernard. > > > Here is what I have in mind as a report so far: > > --- > Crail > > Crail is a storage platform for sharing performance critical data in > distributed data processing jobs at very high speed. > > Crail has been incubating since 2017-11-01. > - Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating: > > 1. Grow developers community > 2. Grow Crail use base > 3. More steady release cycle > > - Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of? > > no. > > - How has the community developed since the last report? > > We see increasing traffic on the dev mailing list from > Crail users. A recent proposal from Adrian to add elastic > scaling got positive feedback from other committers. > > - How has the project developed since the last report? > > Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on > the code base. It is critical the Crail developers > community resumes to be more active to keep the project > making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data > store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable > use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion > in a next release is of common interest among the > committers. > > - How would you assess the podling's maturity? > > (Please feel free to add your own commentary.) > > Initial setup > Working towards first release > x Community building > Nearing graduation > Other: > > - Date of last release: > > 2020-01-14 > > - When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? > > December 4th, 2018 > > - Have your mentors been helpful and responsive? > > yes.
Re: Crail draft podling report June 2020
Thanks - The wiki is now using the same credentials as your Apache account - have you tried that? From: bernard metzler Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:04:00 AM To: dev@crail.apache.org Subject: Crail draft podling report June 2020 Please find below a draft podling report for Crail, subject to discussion, suggestions, changes, etc. Initially I wanted to directly put that in at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/June2020 to edit online with you. Unfortunately I lost my Confluence password for login, and any attempt to reset it ends up with "An internal error occurred when trying to change your password." In the interest of time, and assuming others on the list still have access, I'd ask one of you to put it in later today if we agreed on the content. Thanks, Bernard. Here is what I have in mind as a report so far: --- Crail Crail is a storage platform for sharing performance critical data in distributed data processing jobs at very high speed. Crail has been incubating since 2017-11-01. - Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating: 1. Grow developers community 2. Grow Crail use base 3. More steady release cycle - Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of? no. - How has the community developed since the last report? We see increasing traffic on the dev mailing list from Crail users. A recent proposal from Adrian to add elastic scaling got positive feedback from other committers. - How has the project developed since the last report? Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on the code base. It is critical the Crail developers community resumes to be more active to keep the project making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion in a next release is of common interest among the committers. - How would you assess the podling's maturity? (Please feel free to add your own commentary.) Initial setup Working towards first release x Community building Nearing graduation Other: - Date of last release: 2020-01-14 - When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? December 4th, 2018 - Have your mentors been helpful and responsive? yes.
Re: Crail draft podling report June 2020
Thanks for the report Bernard. I added it to the wiki. Thanks, Jonas On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:04:00 +0200 bernard metzler wrote: Please find below a draft podling report for Crail, subject to discussion, suggestions, changes, etc. Initially I wanted to directly put that in at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/June2020 to edit online with you. Unfortunately I lost my Confluence password for login, and any attempt to reset it ends up with "An internal error occurred when trying to change your password." In the interest of time, and assuming others on the list still have access, I'd ask one of you to put it in later today if we agreed on the content. Thanks, Bernard. Here is what I have in mind as a report so far: --- Crail Crail is a storage platform for sharing performance critical data in distributed data processing jobs at very high speed. Crail has been incubating since 2017-11-01. - Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating: 1. Grow developers community 2. Grow Crail use base 3. More steady release cycle - Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of? no. - How has the community developed since the last report? We see increasing traffic on the dev mailing list from Crail users. A recent proposal from Adrian to add elastic scaling got positive feedback from other committers. - How has the project developed since the last report? Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on the code base. It is critical the Crail developers community resumes to be more active to keep the project making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion in a next release is of common interest among the committers. - How would you assess the podling's maturity? (Please feel free to add your own commentary.) Initial setup Working towards first release x Community building Nearing graduation Other: - Date of last release: 2020-01-14 - When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? December 4th, 2018 - Have your mentors been helpful and responsive? yes.
Crail draft podling report June 2020
Please find below a draft podling report for Crail, subject to discussion, suggestions, changes, etc. Initially I wanted to directly put that in at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/June2020 to edit online with you. Unfortunately I lost my Confluence password for login, and any attempt to reset it ends up with "An internal error occurred when trying to change your password." In the interest of time, and assuming others on the list still have access, I'd ask one of you to put it in later today if we agreed on the content. Thanks, Bernard. Here is what I have in mind as a report so far: --- Crail Crail is a storage platform for sharing performance critical data in distributed data processing jobs at very high speed. Crail has been incubating since 2017-11-01. - Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating: 1. Grow developers community 2. Grow Crail use base 3. More steady release cycle - Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of? no. - How has the community developed since the last report? We see increasing traffic on the dev mailing list from Crail users. A recent proposal from Adrian to add elastic scaling got positive feedback from other committers. - How has the project developed since the last report? Crail went through a phase of limited visible activities on the code base. It is critical the Crail developers community resumes to be more active to keep the project making decent progress. Using Crail as an ephemeral data store for serverless computing emerges as a very suitable use case. Pushing this forward, aiming at inclusion in a next release is of common interest among the committers. - How would you assess the podling's maturity? (Please feel free to add your own commentary.) Initial setup Working towards first release x Community building Nearing graduation Other: - Date of last release: 2020-01-14 - When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? December 4th, 2018 - Have your mentors been helpful and responsive? yes.
