deploy examples to wildfly?

2016-06-20 Thread subaochen
hi all,


how about add such snippet to examples/pom.xml:



  org.wildfly.plugins
  wildfly-maven-plugin
  1.1.0.Alpha8



just help to deploy examples to wildfly easier.



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RE: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.7.0

2016-06-20 Thread Marvin Toll
It is (perhaps) fortuitous that this issue comes up at this time.

I have struggled to imagine a thoughtful value proposition for DeltaSpike 
targeting our 700+ developers on six continents (that don't necessarily use 
English as a first language). The subtle distinction between a CDI-container 
and a CDI extension seems to me like a lower-level concern that fails to 
grapple with the value proposition for DeltaSpike.

That is, why should one consider DeltaSpike as a wrapper for technologies that 
are implementable with a native API?

For example, in the persistence space, what is the compelling value proposition 
for obfuscating the specification-backed Java Persistence API with a 
proprietary DeltaSpike API that dictates a CDI dependency? (Presume that some 
folks perceive an additional dependency as a negative... not a positive.)

Said a third way, if we expect DeltaSpike acceptance to grow beyond the current 
faithful, how do we articulate the advantages in a manner that causes the 
thoughtful to think?

_Marvin


-Original Message-
From: John D. Ament [mailto:john.d.am...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.7.0

Sebb,

Great points.  I'll make sure the email for the next release provides more 
details.
John

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM sebb  wrote:

> What is the project about? Why should I be interested in it?
> (rhetorical questions)

> So the e-mails should contain at least brief details of what the 
> product does. However the sentence:

> "Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI extension."

> will mean nothing to most people. What does CDI mean?






Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.7.0

2016-06-20 Thread John D. Ament
Gmail seems to have some intelligence where it combines things that match
after the [] labels.  So if I send out a [VOTE] Release of Apache
DeltaSpike 1.7.0 and a [ANNOUNCE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.7.0 those
seem to get merged sometimes.

So yes in a way they are the same.

John

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:48 AM Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the release John!
>
> Not sure but did you sent the announcement mail with the same topic as the
> vote mail? google mail merged it in the vote mails.
>
> 2016-06-20 16:45 GMT+02:00 sebb :
>
>> On 20 June 2016 at 15:40, John D. Ament  wrote:
>> > Sebb,
>> >
>> > Great points.  I'll make sure the email for the next release provides
>> more
>> > details.  Would you be available if I wanted to run some templates by
>> you?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM sebb  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What is the project about? Why should I be interested in it?
>> >> (rhetorical questions)
>> >>
>> >> The Announce emails are sent to people not on the developer or user
>> lists.
>> >> Most will have no idea what the project is about.
>> >>
>> >> So the e-mails should contain at least brief details of what the
>> >> product does. However the sentence:
>> >>
>> >> "Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI
>> extension."
>> >>
>> >> will mean nothing to most people. What does CDI mean?
>> >>
>> >> Also, the description does not agree with the website, which says:
>> >>
>> >> "Apache DeltaSpike is a collection of portable CDI extensions. "
>> >>
>> >> But again, what does CDI mean in this context?
>> >>
>> >> Readers should not have to click the link to find out the basic
>> >> information
>> >> (although of course it is useful to have such links for further
>> detail).
>> >>
>> >> Please can you add that information to future announce mails?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> On 20 June 2016 at 00:39, John D. Ament  wrote:
>> >> > The Apache DeltaSpike team is pleased to announce the 26th release of
>> >> > DeltaSpike, v1.7.0.  This release includes 40 changes to the codebase
>> >> > primarily focused on the data module.  We've added some initial Java
>> 8
>> >> > support and improved performance.
>> >> >
>> >> > Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI
>> extension.
>> >> >
>> >> > Documentation:
>> >> > http://deltaspike.apache.org/documentation/
>> >> >
>> >> > Download:
>> >> > http://deltaspike.apache.org/download.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Release Notes:
>> >> > http://s.apache.org/DeltaSpike-1.7.0
>> >> >
>> >> > Enjoy!
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>>
>
>


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.7.0

2016-06-20 Thread sebb
On 20 June 2016 at 15:40, John D. Ament  wrote:
> Sebb,
>
> Great points.  I'll make sure the email for the next release provides more
> details.  Would you be available if I wanted to run some templates by you?

Yes.

> John
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM sebb  wrote:
>>
>> What is the project about? Why should I be interested in it?
>> (rhetorical questions)
>>
>> The Announce emails are sent to people not on the developer or user lists.
>> Most will have no idea what the project is about.
>>
>> So the e-mails should contain at least brief details of what the
>> product does. However the sentence:
>>
>> "Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI extension."
>>
>> will mean nothing to most people. What does CDI mean?
>>
>> Also, the description does not agree with the website, which says:
>>
>> "Apache DeltaSpike is a collection of portable CDI extensions. "
>>
>> But again, what does CDI mean in this context?
>>
>> Readers should not have to click the link to find out the basic
>> information
>> (although of course it is useful to have such links for further detail).
>>
>> Please can you add that information to future announce mails?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 20 June 2016 at 00:39, John D. Ament  wrote:
>> > The Apache DeltaSpike team is pleased to announce the 26th release of
>> > DeltaSpike, v1.7.0.  This release includes 40 changes to the codebase
>> > primarily focused on the data module.  We've added some initial Java 8
>> > support and improved performance.
>> >
>> > Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI extension.
>> >
>> > Documentation:
>> > http://deltaspike.apache.org/documentation/
>> >
>> > Download:
>> > http://deltaspike.apache.org/download.html
>> >
>> > Release Notes:
>> > http://s.apache.org/DeltaSpike-1.7.0
>> >
>> > Enjoy!
>> >
>> > John


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.7.0

2016-06-20 Thread Thomas Andraschko
Thanks for the release John!

Not sure but did you sent the announcement mail with the same topic as the
vote mail? google mail merged it in the vote mails.

2016-06-20 16:45 GMT+02:00 sebb :

> On 20 June 2016 at 15:40, John D. Ament  wrote:
> > Sebb,
> >
> > Great points.  I'll make sure the email for the next release provides
> more
> > details.  Would you be available if I wanted to run some templates by
> you?
>
> Yes.
>
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM sebb  wrote:
> >>
> >> What is the project about? Why should I be interested in it?
> >> (rhetorical questions)
> >>
> >> The Announce emails are sent to people not on the developer or user
> lists.
> >> Most will have no idea what the project is about.
> >>
> >> So the e-mails should contain at least brief details of what the
> >> product does. However the sentence:
> >>
> >> "Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI
> extension."
> >>
> >> will mean nothing to most people. What does CDI mean?
> >>
> >> Also, the description does not agree with the website, which says:
> >>
> >> "Apache DeltaSpike is a collection of portable CDI extensions. "
> >>
> >> But again, what does CDI mean in this context?
> >>
> >> Readers should not have to click the link to find out the basic
> >> information
> >> (although of course it is useful to have such links for further detail).
> >>
> >> Please can you add that information to future announce mails?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> On 20 June 2016 at 00:39, John D. Ament  wrote:
> >> > The Apache DeltaSpike team is pleased to announce the 26th release of
> >> > DeltaSpike, v1.7.0.  This release includes 40 changes to the codebase
> >> > primarily focused on the data module.  We've added some initial Java 8
> >> > support and improved performance.
> >> >
> >> > Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI
> extension.
> >> >
> >> > Documentation:
> >> > http://deltaspike.apache.org/documentation/
> >> >
> >> > Download:
> >> > http://deltaspike.apache.org/download.html
> >> >
> >> > Release Notes:
> >> > http://s.apache.org/DeltaSpike-1.7.0
> >> >
> >> > Enjoy!
> >> >
> >> > John
>


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.7.0

2016-06-20 Thread sebb
What is the project about? Why should I be interested in it?
(rhetorical questions)

The Announce emails are sent to people not on the developer or user lists.
Most will have no idea what the project is about.

So the e-mails should contain at least brief details of what the
product does. However the sentence:

"Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI extension."

will mean nothing to most people. What does CDI mean?

Also, the description does not agree with the website, which says:

"Apache DeltaSpike is a collection of portable CDI extensions. "

But again, what does CDI mean in this context?

Readers should not have to click the link to find out the basic information
(although of course it is useful to have such links for further detail).

Please can you add that information to future announce mails?

Thanks.

On 20 June 2016 at 00:39, John D. Ament  wrote:
> The Apache DeltaSpike team is pleased to announce the 26th release of
> DeltaSpike, v1.7.0.  This release includes 40 changes to the codebase
> primarily focused on the data module.  We've added some initial Java 8
> support and improved performance.
>
> Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI extension.
>
> Documentation:
> http://deltaspike.apache.org/documentation/
>
> Download:
> http://deltaspike.apache.org/download.html
>
> Release Notes:
> http://s.apache.org/DeltaSpike-1.7.0
>
> Enjoy!
>
> John


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.7.0

2016-06-20 Thread John D. Ament
Sebb,

Great points.  I'll make sure the email for the next release provides more
details.  Would you be available if I wanted to run some templates by you?

John

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM sebb  wrote:

> What is the project about? Why should I be interested in it?
> (rhetorical questions)
>
> The Announce emails are sent to people not on the developer or user lists.
> Most will have no idea what the project is about.
>
> So the e-mails should contain at least brief details of what the
> product does. However the sentence:
>
> "Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI extension."
>
> will mean nothing to most people. What does CDI mean?
>
> Also, the description does not agree with the website, which says:
>
> "Apache DeltaSpike is a collection of portable CDI extensions. "
>
> But again, what does CDI mean in this context?
>
> Readers should not have to click the link to find out the basic information
> (although of course it is useful to have such links for further detail).
>
> Please can you add that information to future announce mails?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 20 June 2016 at 00:39, John D. Ament  wrote:
> > The Apache DeltaSpike team is pleased to announce the 26th release of
> > DeltaSpike, v1.7.0.  This release includes 40 changes to the codebase
> > primarily focused on the data module.  We've added some initial Java 8
> > support and improved performance.
> >
> > Apache DeltaSpike is not a CDI-container, but a portable CDI extension.
> >
> > Documentation:
> > http://deltaspike.apache.org/documentation/
> >
> > Download:
> > http://deltaspike.apache.org/download.html
> >
> > Release Notes:
> > http://s.apache.org/DeltaSpike-1.7.0
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > John
>


[jira] [Commented] (DELTASPIKE-1159) BOM Needs a dependency management section

2016-06-20 Thread JIRA

[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-1159?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15339064#comment-15339064
 ] 

Jörg Sesterhenn commented on DELTASPIKE-1159:
-

Just had a look ... the scopes are set in the bom. So there is no need for 
setting them in our project.

> BOM Needs a dependency management section
> -
>
> Key: DELTASPIKE-1159
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-1159
> Project: DeltaSpike
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Build
>Affects Versions: 1.6.1
>Reporter: John D. Ament
>Assignee: John D. Ament
> Fix For: 1.7.0
>
>
> The BOM includes dependencies, but those should be in the dependency 
> management section instead.



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[jira] [Commented] (DELTASPIKE-1159) BOM Needs a dependency management section

2016-06-20 Thread JIRA

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-1159?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15339053#comment-15339053
 ] 

Jörg Sesterhenn commented on DELTASPIKE-1159:
-

Just saw this comment on the download page:

bq. The API is scoped for compile time and implementation only included for 
runtime, assisting to prevent you from inadvertently depending on an 
implementation class. 

You could set the scope in the dependency management... maybe in the next 
bugfix release?

> BOM Needs a dependency management section
> -
>
> Key: DELTASPIKE-1159
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-1159
> Project: DeltaSpike
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Build
>Affects Versions: 1.6.1
>Reporter: John D. Ament
>Assignee: John D. Ament
> Fix For: 1.7.0
>
>
> The BOM includes dependencies, but those should be in the dependency 
> management section instead.



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