Re: Druid + Presto?
ators, but also requires >> a shuffle join, and then translate and execute it as an equivalent Presto >> SQL query. The idea being you can express your query in either dialect and >> get routed to the right place in the end. >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:36 PM Samarth Jain wrote: >> >>> Gian, >>> >>> For the presto-sql version of Druid connector, for V1, we decided to >>> pursue >>> the JDBC route. You can follow along on the progress here - >>> https://github.com/prestosql/presto/issues/1855 >>> My colleague, Parth (cc'ed as well) is working on implementing Druid >>> aggregation push down including support for top-n style queries. Our >>> immediate use cases, and what we think Druid >>> generally is more suitable for, is for solving for aggregate group by >>> style >>> queries. Having a presto-druid connector also enables us to join data in >>> Druid with the rest of our warehouse. >>> In general though, for queries that don't do any aggregations i.e. which >>> get translated to Druid SCAN queries, it makes sense to by-pass the Druid >>> datanodes altogether and directly go >>> to the deep storage. I think Druid provides enough metadata about the >>> active segment files to be able to do that relatively easily. >>> >>> You bring up an interesting idea on the reverse connector. What do you >>> think the value of such a connector will be? I am assuming Druid SQL for >>> the most part is ANSI SQL. >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:56 PM Zhenxiao Luo >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Thank you, Mainak. >>> > >>> > Hi Gian, >>> > >>> > Glad to see you are interested in Presto Druid connector. >>> > >>> > My colleague, @Hao Luo @Beinan Wang >>> > and >>> > me, together, implemented the Presto Druid connector in PrestoDB: >>> > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html >>> > >>> > Our implementation includes: >>> > 1. Presto could scan Druid segments to compute SQL results >>> > 2. aggregation pushdown, where Presto leverages Druid fast aggregation >>> > capabilities, and stream aggregated result from Druid >>> > actually, we implemented 2 execution paths, users could use >>> configurations >>> > to control whether they'd like to scan segments or pushdown all >>> sub-queries >>> > to Druid >>> > >>> > We had run benchmarkings comparing Presto Druid connector with other >>> SQL >>> > engines. And are ready to run production workloads. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Zhenxiao >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mainak Ghosh >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hello Gian, >>> > > >>> > > We are currently testing the (other) Presto Druid connector at our >>> end. >>> > It >>> > > has aggregation push down support. Adding Zhenxiao to this thread >>> since >>> > he >>> > > is the primary developer of the connector. He can provide the kind of >>> > > details you are looking for. >>> > > >>> > > Thanks, >>> > > Mainak >>> > > >>> > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: >>> > > > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html. From the >>> docs >>> > it >>> > > > looks like it has different lineage and might even work >>> differently. >>> > > > >>> > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino >>> wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > >> I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, >>> > > enabling >>> > > >> Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there >>> > aren't >>> > > any >>> > > >> interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than >>> > > querying >>> > > >> Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to >>> > > Presto's >>> > > >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else >>> on >>> > this >>> > > >> list) have a
Re: Druid + Presto?
> has aggregation push down support. Adding Zhenxiao to this thread since > > he > > > is the primary developer of the connector. He can provide the kind of > > > details you are looking for. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mainak > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Gian Merlino > > > <mailto:g...@apache.org>> wrote: > > > > > > > > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: > > > > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html > > > > <https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html>. From the docs > > it > > > > looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino > > > <mailto:g...@apache.org>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, > > > enabling > > > >> Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there > > aren't > > > any > > > >> interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than > > > querying > > > >> Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to > > > Presto's > > > >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on > > this > > > >> list) have any thoughts on any of those? > > > >> > > > >> I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the > > > >> connector you built. > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain > > >> <mailto:samarth.j...@gmail.com>> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi Gian, > > > >>> > > > >>> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql > > which > > > >>> went > > > >>> out in release 337 > > > >>> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html > > > >>> <https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html>. The v1 > > > >>> version > > > >>> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being > > > >>> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few > > > >>> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid > > connector > > > in > > > >>> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in > > Druid > > > >>> would be needed to support that integration. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks, > > > >>> Samarth > > > >>> > > > >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino > > >>> <mailto:g...@apache.org>> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Hey Druids, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto > > together? > > > >>> If > > > >>>> so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor > > > of > > > >>>> Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience > > been > > > >>> like? > > > >>>> I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense > > to > > > >>> look > > > >>>> at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Gian > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >
Re: Druid + Presto?
+ Zhenxiao > On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: > > Hey Zhenxiao, Hao, Beinan, Mainak, > > Thanks for sharing information about your work. > > You mention benchmarks — I'm curious, did you have a chance to benchmark each > execution path? How do they look? > > When you were developing the connector, did you feel like any changes in > Druid would make it easier to integrate things between the two projects? > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:56 PM Zhenxiao Luo <mailto:z...@twitter.com.invalid>> wrote: > Thank you, Mainak. > > Hi Gian, > > Glad to see you are interested in Presto Druid connector. > > My colleague, @Hao Luo mailto:h...@twitter.com>> @Beinan > Wang > mailto:bein...@twitter.com>> and > me, together, implemented the Presto Druid connector in PrestoDB: > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html > <https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html> > > Our implementation includes: > 1. Presto could scan Druid segments to compute SQL results > 2. aggregation pushdown, where Presto leverages Druid fast aggregation > capabilities, and stream aggregated result from Druid > actually, we implemented 2 execution paths, users could use configurations > to control whether they'd like to scan segments or pushdown all sub-queries > to Druid > > We had run benchmarkings comparing Presto Druid connector with other SQL > engines. And are ready to run production workloads. > > Thanks, > Zhenxiao > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mainak Ghosh <mailto:mgh...@twitter.com>> wrote: > > > Hello Gian, > > > > We are currently testing the (other) Presto Druid connector at our end. It > > has aggregation push down support. Adding Zhenxiao to this thread since he > > is the primary developer of the connector. He can provide the kind of > > details you are looking for. > > > > Thanks, > > Mainak > > > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Gian Merlino > > <mailto:g...@apache.org>> wrote: > > > > > > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: > > > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html > > > <https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html>. From the docs it > > > looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino > > <mailto:g...@apache.org>> wrote: > > > > > >> I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, > > enabling > > >> Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there aren't > > any > > >> interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than > > querying > > >> Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to > > Presto's > > >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on this > > >> list) have any thoughts on any of those? > > >> > > >> I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the > > >> connector you built. > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain > >> <mailto:samarth.j...@gmail.com>> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Gian, > > >>> > > >>> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql which > > >>> went > > >>> out in release 337 > > >>> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html > > >>> <https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html>. The v1 > > >>> version > > >>> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being > > >>> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few > > >>> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid connector > > in > > >>> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in Druid > > >>> would be needed to support that integration. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Samarth > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino > >>> <mailto:g...@apache.org>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hey Druids, > > >>>> > > >>>> I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto together? > > >>> If > > >>>> so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor > > of > > >>>> Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience been > > >>> like? > > >>>> I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense to > > >>> look > > >>>> at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > > >>>> > > >>>> Gian > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > >
Re: Druid + Presto?
gt; details you are looking for. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Mainak >> > > >> > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: >> > > > >> > > > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: >> > > > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html. From the >> docs >> > it >> > > > looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, >> > > enabling >> > > >> Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there >> > aren't >> > > any >> > > >> interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than >> > > querying >> > > >> Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to >> > > Presto's >> > > >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on >> > this >> > > >> list) have any thoughts on any of those? >> > > >> >> > > >> I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the >> > > >> connector you built. >> > > >> >> > > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain < >> samarth.j...@gmail.com> >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >>> Hi Gian, >> > > >>> >> > > >>> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql >> > which >> > > >>> went >> > > >>> out in release 337 >> > > >>> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The >> v1 >> > > >>> version >> > > >>> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is >> being >> > > >>> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next >> few >> > > >>> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid >> > connector >> > > in >> > > >>> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in >> > Druid >> > > >>> would be needed to support that integration. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Thanks, >> > > >>> Samarth >> > > >>> >> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino >> > wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> Hey Druids, >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto >> > together? >> > > >>> If >> > > >>>> so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / >> flavor >> > > of >> > > >>>> Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience >> > been >> > > >>> like? >> > > >>>> I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes >> sense >> > to >> > > >>> look >> > > >>>> at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Gian >> > > >>>> >> > > >>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> >
Re: Druid + Presto?
ervers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to > > > Presto's > > > >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on > > this > > > >> list) have any thoughts on any of those? > > > >> > > > >> I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the > > > >> connector you built. > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain < > samarth.j...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi Gian, > > > >>> > > > >>> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql > > which > > > >>> went > > > >>> out in release 337 > > > >>> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 > > > >>> version > > > >>> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is > being > > > >>> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next > few > > > >>> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid > > connector > > > in > > > >>> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in > > Druid > > > >>> would be needed to support that integration. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks, > > > >>> Samarth > > > >>> > > > >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Hey Druids, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto > > together? > > > >>> If > > > >>>> so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / > flavor > > > of > > > >>>> Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience > > been > > > >>> like? > > > >>>> I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes > sense > > to > > > >>> look > > > >>>> at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Gian > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
Re: Druid + Presto?
Hey Zhenxiao, Hao, Beinan, Mainak, Thanks for sharing information about your work. You mention benchmarks — I'm curious, did you have a chance to benchmark each execution path? How do they look? When you were developing the connector, did you feel like any changes in Druid would make it easier to integrate things between the two projects? On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:56 PM Zhenxiao Luo wrote: > Thank you, Mainak. > > Hi Gian, > > Glad to see you are interested in Presto Druid connector. > > My colleague, @Hao Luo @Beinan Wang > and > me, together, implemented the Presto Druid connector in PrestoDB: > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html > > Our implementation includes: > 1. Presto could scan Druid segments to compute SQL results > 2. aggregation pushdown, where Presto leverages Druid fast aggregation > capabilities, and stream aggregated result from Druid > actually, we implemented 2 execution paths, users could use configurations > to control whether they'd like to scan segments or pushdown all sub-queries > to Druid > > We had run benchmarkings comparing Presto Druid connector with other SQL > engines. And are ready to run production workloads. > > Thanks, > Zhenxiao > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mainak Ghosh wrote: > > > Hello Gian, > > > > We are currently testing the (other) Presto Druid connector at our end. > It > > has aggregation push down support. Adding Zhenxiao to this thread since > he > > is the primary developer of the connector. He can provide the kind of > > details you are looking for. > > > > Thanks, > > Mainak > > > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: > > > > > > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: > > > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html. From the docs > it > > > looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > > > > > >> I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, > > enabling > > >> Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there > aren't > > any > > >> interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than > > querying > > >> Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to > > Presto's > > >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on > this > > >> list) have any thoughts on any of those? > > >> > > >> I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the > > >> connector you built. > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Gian, > > >>> > > >>> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql > which > > >>> went > > >>> out in release 337 > > >>> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 > > >>> version > > >>> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being > > >>> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few > > >>> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid > connector > > in > > >>> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in > Druid > > >>> would be needed to support that integration. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Samarth > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hey Druids, > > >>>> > > >>>> I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto > together? > > >>> If > > >>>> so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor > > of > > >>>> Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience > been > > >>> like? > > >>>> I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense > to > > >>> look > > >>>> at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > > >>>> > > >>>> Gian > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > >
Re: Druid + Presto?
Gian, For the presto-sql version of Druid connector, for V1, we decided to pursue the JDBC route. You can follow along on the progress here - https://github.com/prestosql/presto/issues/1855 My colleague, Parth (cc'ed as well) is working on implementing Druid aggregation push down including support for top-n style queries. Our immediate use cases, and what we think Druid generally is more suitable for, is for solving for aggregate group by style queries. Having a presto-druid connector also enables us to join data in Druid with the rest of our warehouse. In general though, for queries that don't do any aggregations i.e. which get translated to Druid SCAN queries, it makes sense to by-pass the Druid datanodes altogether and directly go to the deep storage. I think Druid provides enough metadata about the active segment files to be able to do that relatively easily. You bring up an interesting idea on the reverse connector. What do you think the value of such a connector will be? I am assuming Druid SQL for the most part is ANSI SQL. On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:56 PM Zhenxiao Luo wrote: > Thank you, Mainak. > > Hi Gian, > > Glad to see you are interested in Presto Druid connector. > > My colleague, @Hao Luo @Beinan Wang > and > me, together, implemented the Presto Druid connector in PrestoDB: > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html > > Our implementation includes: > 1. Presto could scan Druid segments to compute SQL results > 2. aggregation pushdown, where Presto leverages Druid fast aggregation > capabilities, and stream aggregated result from Druid > actually, we implemented 2 execution paths, users could use configurations > to control whether they'd like to scan segments or pushdown all sub-queries > to Druid > > We had run benchmarkings comparing Presto Druid connector with other SQL > engines. And are ready to run production workloads. > > Thanks, > Zhenxiao > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mainak Ghosh wrote: > > > Hello Gian, > > > > We are currently testing the (other) Presto Druid connector at our end. > It > > has aggregation push down support. Adding Zhenxiao to this thread since > he > > is the primary developer of the connector. He can provide the kind of > > details you are looking for. > > > > Thanks, > > Mainak > > > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: > > > > > > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: > > > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html. From the docs > it > > > looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > > > > > >> I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, > > enabling > > >> Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there > aren't > > any > > >> interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than > > querying > > >> Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to > > Presto's > > >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on > this > > >> list) have any thoughts on any of those? > > >> > > >> I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the > > >> connector you built. > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Gian, > > >>> > > >>> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql > which > > >>> went > > >>> out in release 337 > > >>> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 > > >>> version > > >>> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being > > >>> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few > > >>> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid > connector > > in > > >>> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in > Druid > > >>> would be needed to support that integration. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Samarth > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hey Druids, > > >>>> > > >>>> I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto > together? > > >>> If > > >>>> so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor > > of > > >>>> Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience > been > > >>> like? > > >>>> I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense > to > > >>> look > > >>>> at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > > >>>> > > >>>> Gian > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > >
Re: Druid + Presto?
Thank you, Mainak. Hi Gian, Glad to see you are interested in Presto Druid connector. My colleague, @Hao Luo @Beinan Wang and me, together, implemented the Presto Druid connector in PrestoDB: https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html Our implementation includes: 1. Presto could scan Druid segments to compute SQL results 2. aggregation pushdown, where Presto leverages Druid fast aggregation capabilities, and stream aggregated result from Druid actually, we implemented 2 execution paths, users could use configurations to control whether they'd like to scan segments or pushdown all sub-queries to Druid We had run benchmarkings comparing Presto Druid connector with other SQL engines. And are ready to run production workloads. Thanks, Zhenxiao On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mainak Ghosh wrote: > Hello Gian, > > We are currently testing the (other) Presto Druid connector at our end. It > has aggregation push down support. Adding Zhenxiao to this thread since he > is the primary developer of the connector. He can provide the kind of > details you are looking for. > > Thanks, > Mainak > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: > > > > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: > > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html. From the docs it > > looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > > > >> I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, > enabling > >> Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there aren't > any > >> interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than > querying > >> Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to > Presto's > >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on this > >> list) have any thoughts on any of those? > >> > >> I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the > >> connector you built. > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Gian, > >>> > >>> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql which > >>> went > >>> out in release 337 > >>> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 > >>> version > >>> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being > >>> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few > >>> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid connector > in > >>> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in Druid > >>> would be needed to support that integration. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Samarth > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hey Druids, > >>>> > >>>> I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto together? > >>> If > >>>> so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor > of > >>>> Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience been > >>> like? > >>>> I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense to > >>> look > >>>> at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > >>>> > >>>> Gian > >>>> > >>> > >> > >
Re: Druid + Presto?
Hello Gian, We are currently testing the (other) Presto Druid connector at our end. It has aggregation push down support. Adding Zhenxiao to this thread since he is the primary developer of the connector. He can provide the kind of details you are looking for. Thanks, Mainak > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: > > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html. From the docs it > looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > >> I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, enabling >> Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there aren't any >> interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than querying >> Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to Presto's >> SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on this >> list) have any thoughts on any of those? >> >> I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the >> connector you built. >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Gian, >>> >>> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql which >>> went >>> out in release 337 >>> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 >>> version >>> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being >>> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few >>> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid connector in >>> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in Druid >>> would be needed to support that integration. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Samarth >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Druids, >>>> >>>> I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto together? >>> If >>>> so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor of >>>> Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience been >>> like? >>>> I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense to >>> look >>>> at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. >>>> >>>> Gian >>>> >>> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@druid.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@druid.apache.org
Re: Druid + Presto?
I wrote the Druid connector that reads directly from deep storage(the one you found in prestodb). It understands the segment file format and read only the data needed for the query. I think its possible to have aggregation pushdown(and even more possibilities with other complex operation pushdown), but more work needs to be done on the Presto side to take advantage of the indexes in the segments. On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:25 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: > https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html. From the docs it > looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > > > I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, > enabling > > Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there aren't > any > > interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than querying > > Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to Presto's > > SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on this > > list) have any thoughts on any of those? > > > > I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the > > connector you built. > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Gian, > >> > >> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql which > >> went > >> out in release 337 > >> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 > >> version > >> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being > >> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few > >> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid connector > in > >> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in Druid > >> would be needed to support that integration. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Samarth > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino wrote: > >> > >> > Hey Druids, > >> > > >> > I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto together? > >> If > >> > so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor > of > >> > Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience been > >> like? > >> > I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense to > >> look > >> > at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > >> > > >> > Gian > >> > > >> > > >
Re: Druid + Presto?
By the way, I see that the other Presto has a Druid connector too: https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/druid.html. From the docs it looks like it has different lineage and might even work differently. On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, enabling > Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there aren't any > interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than querying > Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to Presto's > SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on this > list) have any thoughts on any of those? > > I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the > connector you built. > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain > wrote: > >> Hi Gian, >> >> I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql which >> went >> out in release 337 >> https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 >> version >> of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being >> actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few >> releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid connector in >> our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in Druid >> would be needed to support that integration. >> >> Thanks, >> Samarth >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino wrote: >> >> > Hey Druids, >> > >> > I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto together? >> If >> > so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor of >> > Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience been >> like? >> > I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense to >> look >> > at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. >> > >> > Gian >> > >> >
Re: Druid + Presto?
I was thinking of exploring ideas like pushing down aggregations, enabling Presto to query directly from deep storage (in cases where there aren't any interesting things to push down, this may be more efficient than querying Druid servers), enabling translation from Druid's SQL dialect to Presto's SQL dialect (a "reverse connector"), etc. Do you (or anyone else on this list) have any thoughts on any of those? I'm also curious what kinds of improvements you're planning to the connector you built. On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:18 AM Samarth Jain wrote: > Hi Gian, > > I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql which went > out in release 337 > https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 version > of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being > actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few > releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid connector in > our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in Druid > would be needed to support that integration. > > Thanks, > Samarth > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino wrote: > > > Hey Druids, > > > > I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto together? If > > so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor of > > Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience been > like? > > I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense to > look > > at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > > > > Gian > > >
Re: Druid + Presto?
Hi Gian, I contributed the jdbc based presto-druid connector in prestosql which went out in release 337 https://prestosql.io/docs/current/release/release-337.html. The v1 version of the connector doesn’t support aggregate push down yet. It is being actively worked on and we expect it to be improved over the next few releases. We are currently evaluating using the presto-druid connector in our Tableau setup. It would be interesting to see what changes in Druid would be needed to support that integration. Thanks, Samarth On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gian Merlino wrote: > Hey Druids, > > I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto together? If > so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor of > Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience been like? > I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense to look > at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. > > Gian >
Druid + Presto?
Hey Druids, I was wondering, is anyone on this list using Druid + Presto together? If so, what does your architecture look like and which edition / flavor of Presto and Druid connector are you using? What's your experience been like? I'm asking since I'm starting to think about whether it makes sense to look at ways to improve the integration between the two projects. Gian
