Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Sorry, Dave. I forgot about that...
We will test it now.

Wenli


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 6:59 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi Wenli,
>
> This may be the same VPN IP address I gave you a few weeks ago. Did you
> test that?
>
> Put this in your hosts file:
> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Oct 31, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we
> could
> > enable it?
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, there
> >>
> >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
> >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
> things go
> >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
> >> could also solve your problem.
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> York Shen
> >>
> >> 申远
> >>
> >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> >>> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> >>> 1. Open google analytics
> >>> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> >>> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> >> list,
> >>> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> >>>
> >>> Wenli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
> page.
>  Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> 
>  Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
> >> regions
>  and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
> >> this
>  kind of thing.
> 
>  Thanks
> 
>  On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia 
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Dave.
> >
> > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June.
> >> [1]
> >> You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
> >> and
> > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
> >> so
> > those who don't
> > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> >> account
>  so
> > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> >
> > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> >
> > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
> >> help
>  make
> > decisions in the following emails.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> 
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Wenli,
> >>
> >> I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> >> would
>  like
> >> to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> >> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
> >> list.
> >>
> >> The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
> >> are
> >> monitored.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Dave,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> >>>
> >>> As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
> >> similar
>  to
> >>> Google Analytics.
> >>> In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
>  Google
> >>> Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
>  analytics
> >> of
> >>> 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
> >> misses 50%
> > of
> >>> page views from China.
> >>> So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > Analytics.
> >>>
> >>> The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
> >> Google
> >>> Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
> >> neither
>  of
> >>> these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
> >> not
>  be
> > a
> >>> big issue.
> >>>
> >>> Wenli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
>  wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi -
> 
>  No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
> >> JIRA
>  at
> >> this
>  time.
> 
>  The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
> >> which
>  are
>  hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
> >> would
> > like
> >> to
>  see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing
> >> list,
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Wenli,

This may be the same VPN IP address I gave you a few weeks ago. Did you test 
that?

Put this in your hosts file:
13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org 

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 31, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Ovilia  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we could
> enable it?
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, there
>> 
>> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
>> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but things go
>> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
>> could also solve your problem.
>> 
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> York Shen
>> 
>> 申远
>> 
>> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
>>> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
>>> 1. Open google analytics
>>> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
>>> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
>> list,
>>> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
>>> 
>>> Wenli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page.
 Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
 
 Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
>> regions
 and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
>> this
 kind of thing.
 
 Thanks
 
 On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia  wrote:
 
> Thanks Dave.
> 
> I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June.
>> [1]
>> You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
>> and
> Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
>> so
> those who don't
> have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
>> account
 so
> that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> 
> If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> 
> And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
>> help
 make
> decisions in the following emails.
> 
> [1]
> 
> 
 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> 
> Wenli
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wenli,
>> 
>> I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
>> would
 like
>> to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
>> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
>> list.
>> 
>> The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
>> are
>> monitored.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
>>> 
>>> As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
>> similar
 to
>>> Google Analytics.
>>> In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
 Google
>>> Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
 analytics
>> of
>>> 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
>> misses 50%
> of
>>> page views from China.
>>> So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> Analytics.
>>> 
>>> The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
>> Google
>>> Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
>> neither
 of
>>> these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
>> not
 be
> a
>>> big issue.
>>> 
>>> Wenli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
 wrote:
>>> 
 Hi -
 
 No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
>> JIRA
 at
>> this
 time.
 
 The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
>> which
 are
 hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
>> would
> like
>> to
 see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing
>> list,
 
 There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
 
 Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
 
 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
 
>> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
 
 Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask
>> INFRA to
>> switch
 CDNs.
 
 Regards,
 Dave

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[YorkShen]

Just create a JIRA issue to INFRA, they will handle your request.

FYI: After you enable experimental CDN, you will need to wait several hours
for China CDN cache refreshing each time you deploy the website. But if you
visit your website through a VPN hosted in USA/India, then everything takes
effect immediately. I think this is a side effect of the experimental CDN.

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Ovilia  于2019年10月31日周四 下午2:33写道：

> Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we could
> enable it?
>
> Wenli
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:
>
>> Hi, there
>>
>> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
>> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but things go
>> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
>> could also solve your problem.
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> York Shen
>>
>> 申远
>>
>> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
>> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
>> > 1. Open google analytics
>> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
>> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
>> list,
>> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
>> >
>> > Wenli
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
>> page.
>> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
>> > >
>> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
>> regions
>> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
>> this
>> > > kind of thing.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks Dave.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th
>> June. [1]
>> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
>> and
>> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
>> so
>> > > > those who don't
>> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
>> account
>> > > so
>> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
>> > > >
>> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
>> help
>> > > make
>> > > > decisions in the following emails.
>> > > >
>> > > > [1]
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
>> > > >
>> > > > Wenli
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Wenli,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
>> would
>> > > like
>> > > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
>> > > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
>> list.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
>> are
>> > > > > monitored.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > Dave
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi Dave,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
>> similar
>> > > to
>> > > > > > Google Analytics.
>> > > > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
>> > > Google
>> > > > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
>> > > analytics
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
>> misses 50%
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > page views from China.
>> > > > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
>> > > > Analytics.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
>> Google
>> > > > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
>> neither
>> > > of
>> > > > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
>> not
>> > > be
>> > > > a
>> > > > > > big issue.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Wenli
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Hi -
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
>> JIRA
>> > > at
>> > > > > this
>> > > > > >> time.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
>> which
>> > > are
>> > > > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
>> would
>> > > > like
>> > > > > to
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia]

Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we could
enable it?

Wenli


On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen  wrote:

> Hi, there
>
> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but things go
> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
> could also solve your problem.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
>
> Best Regards,
> York Shen
>
> 申远
>
> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia  wrote:
> > In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> > 1. Open google analytics
> > 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> > 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> >
> > I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> list,
> > so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document page.
> > > Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> > >
> > > Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
> regions
> > > and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
> this
> > > kind of thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Dave.
> > > >
> > > > I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June.
> [1]
> > > > > You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
> and
> > > > Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
> so
> > > > those who don't
> > > > have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> account
> > > so
> > > > that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> > > >
> > > > If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
> help
> > > make
> > > > decisions in the following emails.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > > Wenli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Wenli,
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> would
> > > like
> > > > > to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> > > > > decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
> list.
> > > > >
> > > > > The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
> are
> > > > > monitored.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
> similar
> > > to
> > > > > > Google Analytics.
> > > > > > In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
> > > Google
> > > > > > Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
> > > analytics
> > > > > of
> > > > > > 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
> misses 50%
> > > > of
> > > > > > page views from China.
> > > > > > So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> > > > Analytics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
> Google
> > > > > > Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
> neither
> > > of
> > > > > > these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
> not
> > > be
> > > > a
> > > > > > big issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wenli
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi -
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
> JIRA
> > > at
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> time.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
> which
> > > are
> > > > > >> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
> would
> > > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing
> list,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> > > > > >>
> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask
> INFRA to
> > > > > switch
> > > > > >> CDNs.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > >> Dave
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Oct 13,