Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Deepak MS]

Wow! So this is so exciting. Mosting trending subject currently. What a
'royale' start ; )

I'm not sure if domain name is fixed yet. If not, may be just like how a
voting thread was opened for finalising the name, same can be done for
finalising domain name too. This would narrow down the search. Just a
thought.

Cheers!

Re: Royale Logo

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

It is not a requirement. I was curious. Having it might help the brand. 
Certainly the website design will need Apache branding. (Not all project are 
fully in compliance with brand policy, but we try.)

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Alex Harui  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Is having "Apache" in the logo a requirement?  I'm not convinced every
> other Apache project is doing that (or incorporating the feather either).
> 
> We do need the "TM" in the logo though.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Alex
> 
>> On 9/24/17, 2:35 PM, "Dave Fisher"  wrote:
>> 
>> It's pretty cool. I like the path overlays - it made me think of the
>> Olympic logo. 
>> 
>> Since the project is Apache Royale how would the word Apache be
>> incorporated as a logotype?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Carlos Rovira 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've been working this week end on a logo for Royale and want to share
>>> my
>>> work in progress. Please try the following link:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Froyale.co
>>> deoscopic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F09%2Froyale_logo.png=0
>>> 2%7C01%7C%7C9cebac683de74cee43df08d503947ede%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178
>>> decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418858678387243=HjM%2B%2BE%2FzW7rRhf7FQ%2Fa%2Bx
>>> kgVs9ds8iHLrlbMAGEc%2Fug%3D=0
>>> 
>>> The concept is a modern icon logo build with simplicity in mind and with
>>> lines and circles that could have multiple uses (black over white, white
>>> over black, colored, outlined, special finish...). The example only
>>> shows
>>> some work at the current state. In need more work to be finished.
>>> 
>>> The logo has various meanings. It's a crown to give the user the main
>>> concept of Royale, something magnificent, superb, best in its
>>> class...but
>>> as well tries to give you some key points of the main composition
>>> architecture in Royale, the Strand-Beads concept with a base line (the
>>> strand) that conects circles (beads). So my intention is give the
>>> possibility of various meanings in one logo while try to keep it simple.
>>> 
>>> The fonts used are "Aclonica" google fonts.
>>> 
>>> The last example is not finished (gradients are not perfectly done yet
>>> and
>>> other things needs more polish) and is only a possible finish but it's
>>> really to show how could it be, but I'm sure I'll be redoing it from
>>> scratch, but I must left it for today.
>>> 
>>> Although it's still a work in progress I think is worth i

Re: Royale Logo

[Alex Harui]

Hi Dave,

Is having "Apache" in the logo a requirement?  I'm not convinced every
other Apache project is doing that (or incorporating the feather either).

We do need the "TM" in the logo though.

Thanks,
-Alex

On 9/24/17, 2:35 PM, "Dave Fisher"  wrote:

>It's pretty cool. I like the path overlays - it made me think of the
>Olympic logo. 
>
>Since the project is Apache Royale how would the word Apache be
>incorporated as a logotype?
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Carlos Rovira 
>>wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've been working this week end on a logo for Royale and want to share
>>my
>> work in progress. Please try the following link:
>> 
>> 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Froyale.co
>>deoscopic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F09%2Froyale_logo.png=0
>>2%7C01%7C%7C9cebac683de74cee43df08d503947ede%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178
>>decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418858678387243=HjM%2B%2BE%2FzW7rRhf7FQ%2Fa%2Bx
>>kgVs9ds8iHLrlbMAGEc%2Fug%3D=0
>> 
>> The concept is a modern icon logo build with simplicity in mind and with
>> lines and circles that could have multiple uses (black over white, white
>> over black, colored, outlined, special finish...). The example only
>>shows
>> some work at the current state. In need more work to be finished.
>> 
>> The logo has various meanings. It's a crown to give the user the main
>> concept of Royale, something magnificent, superb, best in its
>>class...but
>> as well tries to give you some key points of the main composition
>> architecture in Royale, the Strand-Beads concept with a base line (the
>> strand) that conects circles (beads). So my intention is give the
>> possibility of various meanings in one logo while try to keep it simple.
>> 
>> The fonts used are "Aclonica" google fonts.
>> 
>> The last example is not finished (gradients are not perfectly done yet
>>and
>> other things needs more polish) and is only a possible finish but it's
>> really to show how could it be, but I'm sure I'll be redoing it from
>> scratch, but I must left it for today.
>> 
>> Although it's still a work in progress I think is worth it to share it
>>with
>> the community and see reactions and if you think if it will be a good
>>logo
>> or try another concept.
>> 
>> So please share your thoughts!
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> -- 
>> Carlos Rovira
>> 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>2Fcarlosrovira=02%7C01%7C%7C9cebac683de74cee43df08d503947ede%7Cfa7b1
>>b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418858678397248=XfLDf0scXd
>>1uV6IZUQ8oPRiNslfvAuAAxoCfVcuis%2BE%3D=0
>

Re: Royale Logo

[Jeffry Houser]

 My first thought is positive.  I like the font and the spacing. But, 
if you want a more nitpicky answer...


 A project [or brand] wants to be seen as going upward to greater 
heights.  Generally this is communicated by pointing up and/or to the 
right.  Fedex and Amazon are two prominent logo examples of this.


 The first thing I saw, right in dead center of the crown, is an 
'arrow' pointing down.  Then I see them pointing left and right. Only 
two of these 'triangle arrows' point up, and only ones points to the 
right. The obvious 'point up' points are rounded.


 The curved line at the bottom of the crown looks like a frown. Or it 
combine it the two triangles above and it looks like someone slanting 
their eyes, as if upset.


  I'm pulling out too many 'hidden' images. ;)


On 9/24/2017 4:50 PM, Carlos Rovira wrote:

Hi,

I've been working this week end on a logo for Royale and want to share my
work in progress. Please try the following link:

http://royale.codeoscopic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/royale_logo.png

The concept is a modern icon logo build with simplicity in mind and with
lines and circles that could have multiple uses (black over white, white
over black, colored, outlined, special finish...). The example only shows
some work at the current state. In need more work to be finished.

The logo has various meanings. It's a crown to give the user the main
concept of Royale, something magnificent, superb, best in its class...but
as well tries to give you some key points of the main composition
architecture in Royale, the Strand-Beads concept with a base line (the
strand) that conects circles (beads). So my intention is give the
possibility of various meanings in one logo while try to keep it simple.

The fonts used are "Aclonica" google fonts.

The last example is not finished (gradients are not perfectly done yet and
other things needs more polish) and is only a possible finish but it's
really to show how could it be, but I'm sure I'll be redoing it from
scratch, but I must left it for today.

Although it's still a work in progress I think is worth it to share it with
the community and see reactions and if you think if it will be a good logo
or try another concept.

So please share your thoughts!

Thanks



--
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
203-379-0773

Re: Royale Logo

[Dave Fisher]

It's pretty cool. I like the path overlays - it made me think of the Olympic 
logo. 

Since the project is Apache Royale how would the word Apache be incorporated as 
a logotype?

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Carlos Rovira  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've been working this week end on a logo for Royale and want to share my
> work in progress. Please try the following link:
> 
> http://royale.codeoscopic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/royale_logo.png
> 
> The concept is a modern icon logo build with simplicity in mind and with
> lines and circles that could have multiple uses (black over white, white
> over black, colored, outlined, special finish...). The example only shows
> some work at the current state. In need more work to be finished.
> 
> The logo has various meanings. It's a crown to give the user the main
> concept of Royale, something magnificent, superb, best in its class...but
> as well tries to give you some key points of the main composition
> architecture in Royale, the Strand-Beads concept with a base line (the
> strand) that conects circles (beads). So my intention is give the
> possibility of various meanings in one logo while try to keep it simple.
> 
> The fonts used are "Aclonica" google fonts.
> 
> The last example is not finished (gradients are not perfectly done yet and
> other things needs more polish) and is only a possible finish but it's
> really to show how could it be, but I'm sure I'll be redoing it from
> scratch, but I must left it for today.
> 
> Although it's still a work in progress I think is worth it to share it with
> the community and see reactions and if you think if it will be a good logo
> or try another concept.
> 
> So please share your thoughts!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -- 
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Carlos,

So excited once you are finish! So excited about all the ideas guys. :)

We can create thread about 1.0 on new mailing list and we should mention
our conversation on FlexJS Summit [1]. There are some points and jiras
raised which they are still true in the Royale. They even should be moved
to GH for tracking.

Apart of that once everything will be setup I would like to release 0.9.0
version. There are several important fixes there along with AMF feature.

[1]
http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/ApacheCon-FlexJS-Summit-FlexJS-1-0-Discussion-Round-Summary-td61700.html

Piotr

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 16:26 Harbs  wrote:

> I don’t see why it can’t be some of both.
>
> Personally, I think it would be really cool to use travis-ci to
> automatically generate parts or all of our website in [FlexJS].
>
> Josh has already managed to use travis-ci for some of his stuff.
>
> Even if we are dogfooding our content, we would still probably want gh
> pages (or similar) to load the content.
>
> Harbs
>
> > On Sep 24, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Piotr Zarzycki 
> wrote:
> >
> > Harbs,
> >
> > So you will be all for migrating content from website to gh pages not
> using
> > Royale instead, as Yishay suggest? That is what you mean?
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 14:37 Harbs  wrote:
> >
> >> I’m still not sure what you mean. From my perspective, WordPress is
> ideal
> >> for dynamic websites. For static websites, it’s really just the HTML and
> >> CSS doing the magic and the platform really doesn’t make a difference.
> >>
> >> There’s lots of OSS projects which use Github Pages for really nice
> sites.
> >>
> >> If it’s easier for him to design it in WordPress, that’s fine, but I’d
> >> definitely like to see if we could migrate the content afterwards.
> >>
> >> My $0.02,
> >> Harbs
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Piotr Zarzycki  >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Harbs,
> >>>
> >>> I believe you do not have to much ready to use  layouts for github
> >> pages. I
> >>> saw them and they are not so sophisticated.
> >>>
> >>> Carlos probably creat much faster beautiful website. For documentation
> GH
> >>> pages are nice.
> >>>
> >>> Try to explore it and you will see. Of course I will go with the flow
> if
> >>> others will push for website content as gh pages.
> >>>
> >>> Piotr
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 12:30 Harbs > harbs.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I’m not understanding. What does WordPress do that Github Pages can’t?
> 
>  Harbs
> 
> > On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Harbs,
> >
> > Github pages are really simple. We can use it for display
> >> documentation.
> > Hopefully take it this initially started by Olaf.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 09:37 Harbs  wrote:
> >
> >> I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress
> >> for
> >> the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would
> allow
>  pull
> >> requests for folks to improve the site.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Harbs
> >>
> >>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> >>> Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> >>> in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
> >>>
> >>> 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
> >>>
>  Yes, their concern is legitimate.
> 
>  Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on
> >> an
>  Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or
>  maybe
>  we'll have to try that plugin you found.
> 
>  Later,
>  -Alex
> 
>  On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
> Carlos
> >> Rovira"
>   carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >>>
>  wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
> >
> > I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
> > completely
> > about what they are concerned to.
> > So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin
> >> that
> > allows
> > to create a static site from a WP site
> > and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages
> that
> >> seems
> > to
> > use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow
> >> once
> > you'll
> > go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it
>  behaves.
> >> In
> > that way I could host 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Harbs]

I don’t see why it can’t be some of both.

Personally, I think it would be really cool to use travis-ci to automatically 
generate parts or all of our website in [FlexJS].

Josh has already managed to use travis-ci for some of his stuff.

Even if we are dogfooding our content, we would still probably want gh pages 
(or similar) to load the content.

Harbs

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Piotr Zarzycki  wrote:
> 
> Harbs,
> 
> So you will be all for migrating content from website to gh pages not using
> Royale instead, as Yishay suggest? That is what you mean?
> 
> Piotr
> 
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 14:37 Harbs  wrote:
> 
>> I’m still not sure what you mean. From my perspective, WordPress is ideal
>> for dynamic websites. For static websites, it’s really just the HTML and
>> CSS doing the magic and the platform really doesn’t make a difference.
>> 
>> There’s lots of OSS projects which use Github Pages for really nice sites.
>> 
>> If it’s easier for him to design it in WordPress, that’s fine, but I’d
>> definitely like to see if we could migrate the content afterwards.
>> 
>> My $0.02,
>> Harbs
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Piotr Zarzycki 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harbs,
>>> 
>>> I believe you do not have to much ready to use  layouts for github
>> pages. I
>>> saw them and they are not so sophisticated.
>>> 
>>> Carlos probably creat much faster beautiful website. For documentation GH
>>> pages are nice.
>>> 
>>> Try to explore it and you will see. Of course I will go with the flow if
>>> others will push for website content as gh pages.
>>> 
>>> Piotr
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 12:30 Harbs  harbs.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
 I’m not understanding. What does WordPress do that Github Pages can’t?
 
 Harbs
 
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
> 
> Hi Harbs,
> 
> Github pages are really simple. We can use it for display
>> documentation.
> Hopefully take it this initially started by Olaf.
> 
> Piotr
> 
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 09:37 Harbs  wrote:
> 
>> I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress
>> for
>> the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow
 pull
>> requests for folks to improve the site.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Harbs
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
>>> Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
>>> in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
>>> 
>>> 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
>>> 
 Yes, their concern is legitimate.
 
 Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on
>> an
 Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or
 maybe
 we'll have to try that plugin you found.
 
 Later,
 -Alex
 
 On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>> Rovira"
 >> 
 wrote:
 
> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
> 
> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
> completely
> about what they are concerned to.
> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin
>> that
> allows
> to create a static site from a WP site
> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that
>> seems
> to
> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow
>> once
> you'll
> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it
 behaves.
>> In
> that way I could host my WP
> installation where we do work and then export to the real site
>> hosted
>> on
> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the
>> best
> option for us.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live
 (for
>> now?)
>> on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname
>> record
>> to
>> point it to:
>> 
>> royale.codeoscopic.com
>> 
>> As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
>> royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
>> 
>> The domain has been 

Re: [FlexJS, AMF] Steps to make FlexJS / Java - RemoteObject / AMF sample work

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi PKumar,

I try a custom class object (I uploaded a Product example). That worked for
me, I think it has a String and a int or something like that. Did you try
that?
I didn't try more complex inheritance, but that is crucial to make RO be
used in real production cases.

As I'm this days working on Royale site and Alex said he wants to work as
well in other things. Could you help trying to get the rest of cases to
work?

That's would be very helpful and appreciated

Let us now!

Thanks

Carlos



2017-09-24 9:51 GMT+02:00 PKumar :

> Carlos,
>
> I tested it with most of built in data type( Including Vector)  and it is
> working  ok, but I  can  not send or receive following  type:
>
> ArrayList - send & receive not  working
> Custom Class Object - nor able to  send it , getting  exception at BlazeDs
> side.
> Complex  Object with Inheritance - not working
>
> One more thing i noted with RemoteObject , that i can not send multiple
> request  to BlazeDs side.
> eg.
> //Passing Vector
> var vector1:Vector. = new Vector.();
> vector1.push("test");
> service.send("passObject",[vector1]);
>
> //Passing Array of String
> service.send("passArray",[["Test1","Test2"]]);
>
> In this only first request goes to server second one does not go.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/
>



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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Harbs,

you're right, I can work faster in WP but after I get a production state we
then can think about creating a state site with the results (there are
tools for that, even to migrate to Jekyll although I don't test it). My
beet is that we can export statics versions to host in gihub, I never did
this, but when I finish I'll take a look.

WP give us a lot of cool funcionality that we must see if we want/need it
in order to allow people to contribute.

At this time I'm working on visuals like the logo and then I'll go for home
and some pages. I think I have some weeks of work in front of me. Hope to
show you results as I get something that looks ok.

After I get a good state, we can maintain the site hidden if we want, I
think as well that maybe we could wait until the main things will be set
up. For example, IMHO, we need at least two more things: A good Royale
native UI Set and a project for forms, validators and formatters (I think
this two will be one of the first things people would want to check). As we
get the new mailing list we should create a thread and see what things to
get 1.0 (minimum)

The reason to maintain the site hidden is to make a huge release when we
reach the 1.0 state. And spread the word to magazines, tech sites, and
whatever that could make us create a big wave in the mainstream. We need to
get the attention of everyone working with actual frameworks and make them
look in our direction.

As I said, I don't really need all our website be created with Royale, but
I'd prefer concentrate our the efforts in make a "piece" that could make
people try Royale interactively in our home.

We need to show people how great Royale is and they should see it in few
minutes in our home trying some hello world code that could be changed on
the fly.

If people can see that, and is easy for them, people would want to try
Royale and I think could end as a Royale User in no time.

We need to make Royale easy for people doesn't now nothing about us, If we
get that, our user base will increase with the time and we could be one of
the techs widely used.

We need to make people think we are the next tech, that's for me should be
our goal.









2017-09-24 15:07 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :

> >
> > [...] I’d definitely like to see if we could migrate the content
> > afterwards.
> >
>
> Dogfooding. Yeah!
>
> EdB
>
>
>
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>
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> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
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>



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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Harbs,

So you will be all for migrating content from website to gh pages not using
Royale instead, as Yishay suggest? That is what you mean?

Piotr

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 14:37 Harbs  wrote:

> I’m still not sure what you mean. From my perspective, WordPress is ideal
> for dynamic websites. For static websites, it’s really just the HTML and
> CSS doing the magic and the platform really doesn’t make a difference.
>
> There’s lots of OSS projects which use Github Pages for really nice sites.
>
> If it’s easier for him to design it in WordPress, that’s fine, but I’d
> definitely like to see if we could migrate the content afterwards.
>
> My $0.02,
> Harbs
>
> > On Sep 24, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Piotr Zarzycki 
> wrote:
> >
> > Harbs,
> >
> > I believe you do not have to much ready to use  layouts for github
> pages. I
> > saw them and they are not so sophisticated.
> >
> > Carlos probably creat much faster beautiful website. For documentation GH
> > pages are nice.
> >
> > Try to explore it and you will see. Of course I will go with the flow if
> > others will push for website content as gh pages.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 12:30 Harbs > wrote:
> >
> >> I’m not understanding. What does WordPress do that Github Pages can’t?
> >>
> >> Harbs
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Harbs,
> >>>
> >>> Github pages are really simple. We can use it for display
> documentation.
> >>> Hopefully take it this initially started by Olaf.
> >>>
> >>> Piotr
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 09:37 Harbs  wrote:
> >>>
>  I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress
> for
>  the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow
> >> pull
>  requests for folks to improve the site.
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Harbs
> 
> > On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> > Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> > in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
> >
> > 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
> >
> >> Yes, their concern is legitimate.
> >>
> >> Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on
> an
> >> Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or
> >> maybe
> >> we'll have to try that plugin you found.
> >>
> >> Later,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>  Rovira"
> >>  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
> >>>
> >>> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
> >>> completely
> >>> about what they are concerned to.
> >>> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin
> that
> >>> allows
> >>> to create a static site from a WP site
> >>> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that
>  seems
> >>> to
> >>> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow
> once
> >>> you'll
> >>> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it
> >> behaves.
>  In
> >>> that way I could host my WP
> >>> installation where we do work and then export to the real site
> hosted
>  on
> >>> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
> >>> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the
> best
> >>> option for us.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live
> >> (for
>  now?)
>  on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname
>  record
>  to
>  point it to:
> 
>  royale.codeoscopic.com
> 
>  As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
>  royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
> 
>  The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic
> renewal.
>  I'll
>  donate these costs.
> 
>  If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the
> locks
>  and
>  provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
> 
>  If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but
> >> that
>  would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
>  commercial
>  AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
> 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Harbs]

I’m still not sure what you mean. From my perspective, WordPress is ideal for 
dynamic websites. For static websites, it’s really just the HTML and CSS doing 
the magic and the platform really doesn’t make a difference.

There’s lots of OSS projects which use Github Pages for really nice sites.

If it’s easier for him to design it in WordPress, that’s fine, but I’d 
definitely like to see if we could migrate the content afterwards.

My $0.02,
Harbs

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Piotr Zarzycki  wrote:
> 
> Harbs,
> 
> I believe you do not have to much ready to use  layouts for github pages. I
> saw them and they are not so sophisticated.
> 
> Carlos probably creat much faster beautiful website. For documentation GH
> pages are nice.
> 
> Try to explore it and you will see. Of course I will go with the flow if
> others will push for website content as gh pages.
> 
> Piotr
> 
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 12:30 Harbs  > wrote:
> 
>> I’m not understanding. What does WordPress do that Github Pages can’t?
>> 
>> Harbs
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Piotr Zarzycki 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Harbs,
>>> 
>>> Github pages are really simple. We can use it for display documentation.
>>> Hopefully take it this initially started by Olaf.
>>> 
>>> Piotr
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 09:37 Harbs  wrote:
>>> 
 I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for
 the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow
>> pull
 requests for folks to improve the site.
 
 Thanks,
 Harbs
 
> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
 carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
> 
> 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
> 
>> Yes, their concern is legitimate.
>> 
>> Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
>> Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or
>> maybe
>> we'll have to try that plugin you found.
>> 
>> Later,
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
 Rovira"
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
>>> 
>>> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
>>> completely
>>> about what they are concerned to.
>>> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
>>> allows
>>> to create a static site from a WP site
>>> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that
 seems
>>> to
>>> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
>>> you'll
>>> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it
>> behaves.
 In
>>> that way I could host my WP
>>> installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted
 on
>>> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
>>> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
>>> option for us.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live
>> (for
 now?)
 on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname
 record
 to
 point it to:
 
 royale.codeoscopic.com
 
 As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
 royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
 
 The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal.
 I'll
 donate these costs.
 
 If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks
 and
 provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
 
 If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but
>> that
 would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
 commercial
 AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
 
 Thanks,
 
 EdB
 
 
 
 On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
  
 wrote:
 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui
>> >> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
 possible
 for
>> Erik to "own" the domain 

RE: Royale website and domain registration

[yishayw]

Olaf Krueger wrote
> I think FlexJS/Royale is bloated for building Websites.

I think this could make for an interesting technical discussion. Why is
Royale bloated for building Websites?




--
Sent from: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Harbs,

I believe you do not have to much ready to use  layouts for github pages. I
saw them and they are not so sophisticated.

Carlos probably creat much faster beautiful website. For documentation GH
pages are nice.

Try to explore it and you will see. Of course I will go with the flow if
others will push for website content as gh pages.

Piotr

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 12:30 Harbs  wrote:

> I’m not understanding. What does WordPress do that Github Pages can’t?
>
> Harbs
>
> > On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Piotr Zarzycki 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Harbs,
> >
> > Github pages are really simple. We can use it for display documentation.
> > Hopefully take it this initially started by Olaf.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 09:37 Harbs  wrote:
> >
> >> I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for
> >> the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow
> pull
> >> requests for folks to improve the site.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Harbs
> >>
> >>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> >>> Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> >>> in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
> >>>
> >>> 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
> >>>
>  Yes, their concern is legitimate.
> 
>  Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
>  Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or
> maybe
>  we'll have to try that plugin you found.
> 
>  Later,
>  -Alex
> 
>  On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >> Rovira"
>  
>  wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
> >
> > I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
> > completely
> > about what they are concerned to.
> > So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
> > allows
> > to create a static site from a WP site
> > and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that
> >> seems
> > to
> > use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
> > you'll
> > go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it
> behaves.
> >> In
> > that way I could host my WP
> > installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted
> >> on
> > GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
> > with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
> > option for us.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live
> (for
> >> now?)
> >> on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname
> >> record
> >> to
> >> point it to:
> >>
> >> royale.codeoscopic.com
> >>
> >> As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
> >> royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
> >>
> >> The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal.
> >> I'll
> >> donate these costs.
> >>
> >> If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks
> >> and
> >> provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
> >>
> >> If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but
> that
> >> would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
> >> commercial
> >> AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> EdB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>  >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui
>  >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
> >> possible
> >> for
>  Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
> >> might
>  satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
> >> domain if
>  Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
> >> have
> >>> been
>  problems like that for other projects.
> 
> >>>
> >>> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
> >> redirect
> >>> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge
> >> $0
> >> for
> >>> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
> >> re-registration
> >>> every year.
> >>>
> >>> 

Re: Royale is now an Apache Project

[Erik de Bruin]

Github all the way!

EdB



On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Carlos Rovira <
carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:

> +1 to Github, since that will make external people more easy to fix
> something.
>
> 2017-09-24 8:51 GMT+02:00 Harbs :
>
> > OK. Let’s see if we can do everything with Github, Worse comes to worst,
> > we can always requests JIRA later.
> >
> > > On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Alex Harui 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think we can request more GitBox/GitHub repos if we want.
> > >
> > > https://gitbox.apache.org 
> > >
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > > On 9/23/17, 11:29 PM, "Harbs"  harbs.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> We should probably ask INFRA if an extra Github repo for general
> issues
> > >> is an option.
> > >>
> > >>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:20 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> bigosma...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Harbs 
> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  In principle, I agree with Om.
> > 
> >  The only reason I can think of to use JIRA is if there’s some reason
> > to
> >  track issues not related to a specific repo. JIRA would give us a
> >  place to
> >  log those kinds of issues.
> > 
> >  Is there anything like that that folks can think of? Is there some
> way
> >  to
> >  use Github Issues for “general” issues if they exist?
> > 
> > >>>
> > >>> Good point.  I haven't seen us create too many JIRAs for
> non-technical
> > >>> bugs.
> > >>> During release times, we create tickets to serve as a checklist.  I
> > >>> believe
> > >>> we can do checklists using Markdown
> > >>> For example:
> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > https%3A%2F%2Fgist.git  > protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.git>
> > >>> hub.com %2Fpydanny%2F940641f591198c78b8a4=
> > 02%7C01%7C%7C118dc9aa3b8642
> > >>> 7d6aa808d50315a35b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418313
> > >>> 851614838=fIpOtKcZRGhzvKYiOfuL4P467MQNK7
> > SeM1jn5%2BHJdmw%3D
> > >>> =0
> > >>>
> > >>> I've seen projects like Node.js use Github Issues to discuss and
> track
> > >>> community issues, for example:
> > >>>
> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c  > protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c>
> > >>> om%2Fnodejs%2Fhelp=02%7C01%7C%7C118dc9aa3b86427d6aa808d50315
> > a35b%7Cf
> > >>> a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418313851614838=
> > dPkatj
> > >>> eU41HWL%2FEvd7KObsgZ42vneZ4Ihe8BlGv1QSQ%3D=0
> > >>> In this case, they simply created a project called 'help' which is
> > >>> nothing
> > >>> but a repo for holding Issues.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Om
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > 
> >  Harbs
> > 
> > > On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:57 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> > > >
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Let's just use Github Issues, please.
> > > One place for everything.  This makes it easier to refer to commits
> > > that
> > > pertain to issues fixed.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Alex Harui
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Infra is asking if we want to use JIRA or Github Issues to track
> > >> bugs.
> > >> The original plan was to use Github Issues.  We could use both,
> but
> > I
> > >> don't think that's necessary.  Does anyone think we should use
> JIRA?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> -Alex
> > >>
> > >> On 9/23/17, 12:24 PM, "Harbs"  harbs.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> What a pain that I needed to active 2FA. Oh well…
> > >>>
> > >>> I got setup as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> Harbs
> > >>>
> >  On Sep 22, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui
>  > >
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >  Yes, I had just set up 2FA in GH and also just joined the ASF
> org.
> >  I
> >  went
> >  and did both before going to the account linking page and it
> > didn't
> >  work.
> >  I think there might have been a problem with already being
> logged
> >  into
> >  GH?
> >  I think the second box said I was auth'd for GH but didn't send
> > the
> >  2nd
> >  factor auth.
> > 
> >  I logged out of GitHub and did something else for a while.  Then
> >  when
> >  I
> >  tried again, it asked for the 2nd factor and then the MFA box
> said
> >  "write-access granted" and now I think it is working.
> > 
> >  -Alex
> > 
> >  On 9/21/17, 2:09 PM, "omup...@gmail.com  

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Harbs]

I’m not understanding. What does WordPress do that Github Pages can’t?

Harbs

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Piotr Zarzycki  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Harbs,
> 
> Github pages are really simple. We can use it for display documentation.
> Hopefully take it this initially started by Olaf.
> 
> Piotr
> 
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 09:37 Harbs  wrote:
> 
>> I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for
>> the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow pull
>> requests for folks to improve the site.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Harbs
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
>>> Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
>>> in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
>>> 
>>> 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
>>> 
 Yes, their concern is legitimate.
 
 Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
 Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or maybe
 we'll have to try that plugin you found.
 
 Later,
 -Alex
 
 On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>> Rovira"
 
 wrote:
 
> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
> 
> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
> completely
> about what they are concerned to.
> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
> allows
> to create a static site from a WP site
> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that
>> seems
> to
> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
> you'll
> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it behaves.
>> In
> that way I could host my WP
> installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted
>> on
> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
> option for us.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live (for
>> now?)
>> on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname
>> record
>> to
>> point it to:
>> 
>> royale.codeoscopic.com
>> 
>> As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
>> royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
>> 
>> The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal.
>> I'll
>> donate these costs.
>> 
>> If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks
>> and
>> provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
>> 
>> If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but that
>> would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
>> commercial
>> AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> EdB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>> >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
>> possible
>> for
 Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
>> might
 satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
>> domain if
 Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
>> have
>>> been
 problems like that for other projects.
 
>>> 
>>> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
>> redirect
>>> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge
>> $0
>> for
>>> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
>> re-registration
>>> every year.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Thoughts?
 -Alex
 
 On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:
 
> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
>> redirect
>>> to
> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be
>> nice
 to
> have that domain no matter what.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>>> Muppirala"
>  wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Hi Yishay,

I agree with you, but creation of that site take a lot of time cause we are
volunteer. Personally I would start the idea once Carlos put all his design
and create WP website. Than we can slowly start recreation using his design
in order to replace WP some day.

Piotr

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 10:02 Yishay Weiss  wrote:

> Personally I think it should be a FlexJS App/Site. It would take longer to
> have something running but if the framework isn’t ready for this kind of
> thing then it’s probably a good idea to delay publishing the site until it
> is ready.
>
> Frankly, I don’t think we’re in a Royale state right now. There are too
> many bugs. When we have a nice app/site with good layout and some cool
> functionality I’ll feel better about us creating a buzz.
>
>
> From: Harbs
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:37 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Royale website and domain registration
>
> I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for
> the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow pull
> requests for folks to improve the site.
>
> Thanks,
> Harbs
>
> > On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> > Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> > in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
> >
> > 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
> >
> >> Yes, their concern is legitimate.
> >>
> >> Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
> >> Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or maybe
> >> we'll have to try that plugin you found.
> >>
> >> Later,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> Rovira"
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
> >>>
> >>> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
> >>> completely
> >>> about what they are concerned to.
> >>> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
> >>> allows
> >>> to create a static site from a WP site
> >>> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that
> seems
> >>> to
> >>> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
> >>> you'll
> >>> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it behaves.
> In
> >>> that way I could host my WP
> >>> installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted
> on
> >>> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
> >>> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
> >>> option for us.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live (for
>  now?)
>  on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname
> record
>  to
>  point it to:
> 
>  royale.codeoscopic.com
> 
>  As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
>  royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
> 
>  The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal.
> I'll
>  donate these costs.
> 
>  If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks
> and
>  provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
> 
>  If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but that
>  would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
>  commercial
>  AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  EdB
> 
> 
> 
>  On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>   >
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui  >>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
>  possible
>  for
> >> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
>  might
> >> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
>  domain if
> >> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
>  have
> > been
> >> problems like that for other projects.
> >>
> >
> > That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
>  redirect
> > them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge
> $0
>  for
> > just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
> re-registration
> > every year.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/22/17, 

RE: Royale website and domain registration

[Yishay Weiss]

Personally I think it should be a FlexJS App/Site. It would take longer to have 
something running but if the framework isn’t ready for this kind of thing then 
it’s probably a good idea to delay publishing the site until it is ready.

Frankly, I don’t think we’re in a Royale state right now. There are too many 
bugs. When we have a nice app/site with good layout and some cool functionality 
I’ll feel better about us creating a buzz.


From: Harbs
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:37 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Royale website and domain registration

I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for the 
site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow pull requests 
for folks to improve the site.

Thanks,
Harbs

> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
>
> 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
>
>> Yes, their concern is legitimate.
>>
>> Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
>> Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or maybe
>> we'll have to try that plugin you found.
>>
>> Later,
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
>>>
>>> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
>>> completely
>>> about what they are concerned to.
>>> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
>>> allows
>>> to create a static site from a WP site
>>> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that seems
>>> to
>>> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
>>> you'll
>>> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it behaves. In
>>> that way I could host my WP
>>> installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted on
>>> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
>>> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
>>> option for us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>>>
 Hi,

 I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live (for
 now?)
 on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname record
 to
 point it to:

 royale.codeoscopic.com

 As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
 royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.

 The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal. I'll
 donate these costs.

 If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks and
 provide the code, or take care of the move myself.

 If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but that
 would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
 commercial
 AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.

 Thanks,

 EdB



 On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
 
 wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui >>
> wrote:
>
>> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
 possible
 for
>> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
 might
>> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
 domain if
>> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
 have
> been
>> problems like that for other projects.
>>
>
> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
 redirect
> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge $0
 for
> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain re-registration
> every year.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:
>>
>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
 redirect
> to
>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be
 nice
>> to
>>> have that domain no matter what.
>>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> Muppirala"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" 
 wrote:

 How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take 

Re: [FlexJS, AMF] Steps to make FlexJS / Java - RemoteObject / AMF sample work

[PKumar]

Carlos,

I tested it with most of built in data type( Including Vector)  and it is
working  ok, but I  can  not send or receive following  type:

ArrayList - send & receive not  working
Custom Class Object - nor able to  send it , getting  exception at BlazeDs
side.
Complex  Object with Inheritance - not working

One more thing i noted with RemoteObject , that i can not send multiple
request  to BlazeDs side.
eg.
//Passing Vector
var vector1:Vector. = new Vector.();
vector1.push("test");
service.send("passObject",[vector1]);

//Passing Array of String
service.send("passArray",[["Test1","Test2"]]);

In this only first request goes to server second one does not go.




--
Sent from: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Hi Harbs,

Github pages are really simple. We can use it for display documentation.
Hopefully take it this initially started by Olaf.

Piotr

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 09:37 Harbs  wrote:

> I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for
> the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow pull
> requests for folks to improve the site.
>
> Thanks,
> Harbs
>
> > On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> > Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> > in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
> >
> > 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
> >
> >> Yes, their concern is legitimate.
> >>
> >> Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
> >> Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or maybe
> >> we'll have to try that plugin you found.
> >>
> >> Later,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> Rovira"
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
> >>>
> >>> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
> >>> completely
> >>> about what they are concerned to.
> >>> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
> >>> allows
> >>> to create a static site from a WP site
> >>> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that
> seems
> >>> to
> >>> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
> >>> you'll
> >>> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it behaves.
> In
> >>> that way I could host my WP
> >>> installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted
> on
> >>> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
> >>> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
> >>> option for us.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live (for
>  now?)
>  on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname
> record
>  to
>  point it to:
> 
>  royale.codeoscopic.com
> 
>  As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
>  royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
> 
>  The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal.
> I'll
>  donate these costs.
> 
>  If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks
> and
>  provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
> 
>  If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but that
>  would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
>  commercial
>  AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  EdB
> 
> 
> 
>  On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>   >
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui  >>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
>  possible
>  for
> >> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
>  might
> >> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
>  domain if
> >> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
>  have
> > been
> >> problems like that for other projects.
> >>
> >
> > That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
>  redirect
> > them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge
> $0
>  for
> > just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
> re-registration
> > every year.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
>  redirect
> > to
> >>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be
>  nice
> >> to
> >>> have that domain no matter what.
> >>>
> >>> -Alex
> >>>
> >>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> > Muppirala"
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
>  On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" 
>  wrote:
> 
>  How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
> 
>  EdB
> 
> 
>  +1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Harbs]

I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for the 
site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow pull requests 
for folks to improve the site.

Thanks,
Harbs

> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
> 
> 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
> 
>> Yes, their concern is legitimate.
>> 
>> Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
>> Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or maybe
>> we'll have to try that plugin you found.
>> 
>> Later,
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
>>> 
>>> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
>>> completely
>>> about what they are concerned to.
>>> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
>>> allows
>>> to create a static site from a WP site
>>> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that seems
>>> to
>>> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
>>> you'll
>>> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it behaves. In
>>> that way I could host my WP
>>> installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted on
>>> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
>>> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
>>> option for us.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live (for
 now?)
 on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname record
 to
 point it to:
 
 royale.codeoscopic.com
 
 As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
 royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
 
 The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal. I'll
 donate these costs.
 
 If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks and
 provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
 
 If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but that
 would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
 commercial
 AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
 
 Thanks,
 
 EdB
 
 
 
 On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
  
 wrote:
 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui >> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
 possible
 for
>> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
 might
>> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
 domain if
>> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
 have
> been
>> problems like that for other projects.
>> 
> 
> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
 redirect
> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge $0
 for
> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain re-registration
> every year.
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
 redirect
> to
>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be
 nice
>> to
>>> have that domain no matter what.
>>> 
>>> -Alex
>>> 
>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> Muppirala"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" 
 wrote:
 
 How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
 
 EdB
 
 
 +1
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Carlos,
> 
> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get
 the
> domain
> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
> squatters.
> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a
 bunch
> of
> similar domains and tried 

Re: Royale is now an Apache Project

[Carlos Rovira]

+1 to Github, since that will make external people more easy to fix
something.

2017-09-24 8:51 GMT+02:00 Harbs :

> OK. Let’s see if we can do everything with Github, Worse comes to worst,
> we can always requests JIRA later.
>
> > On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Alex Harui 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think we can request more GitBox/GitHub repos if we want.
> >
> > https://gitbox.apache.org 
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 9/23/17, 11:29 PM, "Harbs" > wrote:
> >
> >> We should probably ask INFRA if an extra Github repo for general issues
> >> is an option.
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:20 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala  >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Harbs  wrote:
> >>>
>  In principle, I agree with Om.
> 
>  The only reason I can think of to use JIRA is if there’s some reason
> to
>  track issues not related to a specific repo. JIRA would give us a
>  place to
>  log those kinds of issues.
> 
>  Is there anything like that that folks can think of? Is there some way
>  to
>  use Github Issues for “general” issues if they exist?
> 
> >>>
> >>> Good point.  I haven't seen us create too many JIRAs for non-technical
> >>> bugs.
> >>> During release times, we create tickets to serve as a checklist.  I
> >>> believe
> >>> we can do checklists using Markdown
> >>> For example:
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fgist.git  protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.git>
> >>> hub.com %2Fpydanny%2F940641f591198c78b8a4=
> 02%7C01%7C%7C118dc9aa3b8642
> >>> 7d6aa808d50315a35b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418313
> >>> 851614838=fIpOtKcZRGhzvKYiOfuL4P467MQNK7
> SeM1jn5%2BHJdmw%3D
> >>> =0
> >>>
> >>> I've seen projects like Node.js use Github Issues to discuss and track
> >>> community issues, for example:
> >>>
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c  protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c>
> >>> om%2Fnodejs%2Fhelp=02%7C01%7C%7C118dc9aa3b86427d6aa808d50315
> a35b%7Cf
> >>> a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418313851614838=
> dPkatj
> >>> eU41HWL%2FEvd7KObsgZ42vneZ4Ihe8BlGv1QSQ%3D=0
> >>> In this case, they simply created a project called 'help' which is
> >>> nothing
> >>> but a repo for holding Issues.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Om
> >>>
> >>>
> 
>  Harbs
> 
> > On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:57 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> > >
>  wrote:
> >
> > Let's just use Github Issues, please.
> > One place for everything.  This makes it easier to refer to commits
> > that
> > pertain to issues fixed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Alex Harui
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Infra is asking if we want to use JIRA or Github Issues to track
> >> bugs.
> >> The original plan was to use Github Issues.  We could use both, but
> I
> >> don't think that's necessary.  Does anyone think we should use JIRA?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/23/17, 12:24 PM, "Harbs" > wrote:
> >>
> >>> What a pain that I needed to active 2FA. Oh well…
> >>>
> >>> I got setup as well.
> >>>
> >>> Harbs
> >>>
>  On Sep 22, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui  >
>  wrote:
> 
>  Yes, I had just set up 2FA in GH and also just joined the ASF org.
>  I
>  went
>  and did both before going to the account linking page and it
> didn't
>  work.
>  I think there might have been a problem with already being logged
>  into
>  GH?
>  I think the second box said I was auth'd for GH but didn't send
> the
>  2nd
>  factor auth.
> 
>  I logged out of GitHub and did something else for a while.  Then
>  when
>  I
>  tried again, it asked for the 2nd factor and then the MFA box said
>  "write-access granted" and now I think it is working.
> 
>  -Alex
> 
>  On 9/21/17, 2:09 PM, "omup...@gmail.com 
> on behalf of OmPrakash
>  Muppirala"
>   on behalf of
> bigosma...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Alex Harui
> > 
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Om for that info.  It 

Re: Welcome Tom Chiverton as new Apache Flex PMC Chair

[Harbs]

Thanks for filling the spot!

Harbs

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Tom Chiverton  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> Filling in a report every few months is not much "premier" :-)
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 21/09/17 22:07, Carlos Rovira wrote:
>> Congrats Tom!
>> 
>> Thanks again for taking the position and congrats on your new premiered
>> role! :)
>> 
>> 2017-09-21 18:37 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :
>> 
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> At yesterday's board meeting, the Apache Software Foundation Board of
>>> Directors approved Tom Chiverton as the new PMC Chair for Apache Flex.
>>> Tom's new title is VP Apache Flex.  Tom is taking over for me.
>>> 
>>> I think it may be a few more days before the transition is complete.  The
>>> board secretary and Infrastructure team have to update dome files and
>>> databases and the automated tools that normally do that have had problems.
>>> 
>>> Congratulations Tom!  And thanks again for volunteering to chair this
>>> project.
>>> 
>>> -Alex
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: Royale is now an Apache Project

[Harbs]

OK. Let’s see if we can do everything with Github, Worse comes to worst, we can 
always requests JIRA later.

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Alex Harui  wrote:
> 
> I think we can request more GitBox/GitHub repos if we want.
> 
> https://gitbox.apache.org 
> 
> -Alex
> 
> On 9/23/17, 11:29 PM, "Harbs"  > wrote:
> 
>> We should probably ask INFRA if an extra Github repo for general issues
>> is an option.
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:20 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Harbs  wrote:
>>> 
 In principle, I agree with Om.
 
 The only reason I can think of to use JIRA is if there’s some reason to
 track issues not related to a specific repo. JIRA would give us a
 place to
 log those kinds of issues.
 
 Is there anything like that that folks can think of? Is there some way
 to
 use Github Issues for “general” issues if they exist?
 
>>> 
>>> Good point.  I haven't seen us create too many JIRAs for non-technical
>>> bugs.
>>> During release times, we create tickets to serve as a checklist.  I
>>> believe
>>> we can do checklists using Markdown
>>> For example: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.git 
>>> 
>>> hub.com 
>>> %2Fpydanny%2F940641f591198c78b8a4=02%7C01%7C%7C118dc9aa3b8642
>>> 7d6aa808d50315a35b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418313
>>> 851614838=fIpOtKcZRGhzvKYiOfuL4P467MQNK7SeM1jn5%2BHJdmw%3D
>>> =0
>>> 
>>> I've seen projects like Node.js use Github Issues to discuss and track
>>> community issues, for example:
>>> 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c 
>>> 
>>> om%2Fnodejs%2Fhelp=02%7C01%7C%7C118dc9aa3b86427d6aa808d50315a35b%7Cf
>>> a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418313851614838=dPkatj
>>> eU41HWL%2FEvd7KObsgZ42vneZ4Ihe8BlGv1QSQ%3D=0
>>> In this case, they simply created a project called 'help' which is
>>> nothing
>>> but a repo for holding Issues.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Harbs
 
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:57 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >
 wrote:
> 
> Let's just use Github Issues, please.
> One place for everything.  This makes it easier to refer to commits
> that
> pertain to issues fixed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Alex Harui
> >
> wrote:
> 
>> Infra is asking if we want to use JIRA or Github Issues to track
>> bugs.
>> The original plan was to use Github Issues.  We could use both, but I
>> don't think that's necessary.  Does anyone think we should use JIRA?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/23/17, 12:24 PM, "Harbs" > > wrote:
>> 
>>> What a pain that I needed to active 2FA. Oh well…
>>> 
>>> I got setup as well.
>>> 
>>> Harbs
>>> 
 On Sep 22, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui >
 wrote:
 
 Yes, I had just set up 2FA in GH and also just joined the ASF org.
 I
 went
 and did both before going to the account linking page and it didn't
 work.
 I think there might have been a problem with already being logged
 into
 GH?
 I think the second box said I was auth'd for GH but didn't send the
 2nd
 factor auth.
 
 I logged out of GitHub and did something else for a while.  Then
 when
 I
 tried again, it asked for the 2nd factor and then the MFA box said
 "write-access granted" and now I think it is working.
 
 -Alex
 
 On 9/21/17, 2:09 PM, "omup...@gmail.com  on 
 behalf of OmPrakash
 Muppirala"
  on behalf of 
 bigosma...@gmail.com > wrote:
 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Alex Harui
> 
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Om for that info.  It doesn't seem to be working for me.
>> I
>> entered
>> auth for Apache and Github, but the MFA status is blank.  What
>> did
 you
>> get?
>> 
>> 
> Did you enable 2FA in Github?
> Once you do that, it should take up to 30 minutes for the sync to
> 

Re: Royale is now an Apache Project

[Alex Harui]

I think we can request more GitBox/GitHub repos if we want.

https://gitbox.apache.org

-Alex

On 9/23/17, 11:29 PM, "Harbs"  wrote:

>We should probably ask INFRA if an extra Github repo for general issues
>is an option.
>
>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:20 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
>>wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Harbs  wrote:
>> 
>>> In principle, I agree with Om.
>>> 
>>> The only reason I can think of to use JIRA is if there’s some reason to
>>> track issues not related to a specific repo. JIRA would give us a
>>>place to
>>> log those kinds of issues.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything like that that folks can think of? Is there some way
>>>to
>>> use Github Issues for “general” issues if they exist?
>>> 
>> 
>> Good point.  I haven't seen us create too many JIRAs for non-technical
>> bugs.
>> During release times, we create tickets to serve as a checklist.  I
>>believe
>> we can do checklists using Markdown
>> For example: 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.git
>>hub.com%2Fpydanny%2F940641f591198c78b8a4=02%7C01%7C%7C118dc9aa3b8642
>>7d6aa808d50315a35b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418313
>>851614838=fIpOtKcZRGhzvKYiOfuL4P467MQNK7SeM1jn5%2BHJdmw%3D
>>=0
>> 
>> I've seen projects like Node.js use Github Issues to discuss and track
>> community issues, for example:
>> 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>om%2Fnodejs%2Fhelp=02%7C01%7C%7C118dc9aa3b86427d6aa808d50315a35b%7Cf
>>a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636418313851614838=dPkatj
>>eU41HWL%2FEvd7KObsgZ42vneZ4Ihe8BlGv1QSQ%3D=0
>> In this case, they simply created a project called 'help' which is
>>nothing
>> but a repo for holding Issues.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Harbs
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:57 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala

>>> wrote:
 
 Let's just use Github Issues, please.
 One place for everything.  This makes it easier to refer to commits
that
 pertain to issues fixed.
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Alex Harui

 wrote:
 
> Infra is asking if we want to use JIRA or Github Issues to track
>bugs.
> The original plan was to use Github Issues.  We could use both, but I
> don't think that's necessary.  Does anyone think we should use JIRA?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Alex
> 
> On 9/23/17, 12:24 PM, "Harbs"  wrote:
> 
>> What a pain that I needed to active 2FA. Oh well…
>> 
>> I got setup as well.
>> 
>> Harbs
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I had just set up 2FA in GH and also just joined the ASF org.
>>> I
>>> went
>>> and did both before going to the account linking page and it didn't
>>> work.
>>> I think there might have been a problem with already being logged
>>>into
>>> GH?
>>> I think the second box said I was auth'd for GH but didn't send the
>>> 2nd
>>> factor auth.
>>> 
>>> I logged out of GitHub and did something else for a while.  Then
>>>when
>>> I
>>> tried again, it asked for the 2nd factor and then the MFA box said
>>> "write-access granted" and now I think it is working.
>>> 
>>> -Alex
>>> 
>>> On 9/21/17, 2:09 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>>> Muppirala"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Alex Harui
 Thanks Om for that info.  It doesn't seem to be working for me.
>I
> entered
> auth for Apache and Github, but the MFA status is blank.  What
>did
>>> you
> get?
> 
> 
 Did you enable 2FA in Github?
 Once you do that, it should take up to 30 minutes for the sync to
 happen.
 It took a while for me after I added the 2FA in Github.
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 
> -Alex
> 
> On 9/21/17, 12:00 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> Muppirala"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Also, we all need to go here and finish the 3 step process to
>>get
>> write
>> access:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fgitbox.ap
>> 
>>ache.org%2Fsetup%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C2471774f25274722046c08d5012
>>3
> 1fc8%7Cf
>> a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>> 7C636416172728153639=
> syF6PIH
>> OgL%2FwS0p0ihe6hJq%2FgugJR7pErUZD0%2B7hsNc%3D=0
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> 
>> 

Re: Royale is now an Apache Project

[Harbs]

We should probably ask INFRA if an extra Github repo for general issues is an 
option.

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:20 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Harbs  wrote:
> 
>> In principle, I agree with Om.
>> 
>> The only reason I can think of to use JIRA is if there’s some reason to
>> track issues not related to a specific repo. JIRA would give us a place to
>> log those kinds of issues.
>> 
>> Is there anything like that that folks can think of? Is there some way to
>> use Github Issues for “general” issues if they exist?
>> 
> 
> Good point.  I haven't seen us create too many JIRAs for non-technical
> bugs.
> During release times, we create tickets to serve as a checklist.  I believe
> we can do checklists using Markdown
> For example: https://gist.github.com/pydanny/940641f591198c78b8a4
> 
> I've seen projects like Node.js use Github Issues to discuss and track
> community issues, for example:
> https://github.com/nodejs/help
> In this case, they simply created a project called 'help' which is nothing
> but a repo for holding Issues.
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
> 
>> 
>> Harbs
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:57 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Let's just use Github Issues, please.
>>> One place for everything.  This makes it easier to refer to commits that
>>> pertain to issues fixed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Alex Harui 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Infra is asking if we want to use JIRA or Github Issues to track bugs.
 The original plan was to use Github Issues.  We could use both, but I
 don't think that's necessary.  Does anyone think we should use JIRA?
 
 Thanks,
 -Alex
 
 On 9/23/17, 12:24 PM, "Harbs"  wrote:
 
> What a pain that I needed to active 2FA. Oh well…
> 
> I got setup as well.
> 
> Harbs
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I had just set up 2FA in GH and also just joined the ASF org.  I
>> went
>> and did both before going to the account linking page and it didn't
>> work.
>> I think there might have been a problem with already being logged into
>> GH?
>> I think the second box said I was auth'd for GH but didn't send the
>> 2nd
>> factor auth.
>> 
>> I logged out of GitHub and did something else for a while.  Then when
>> I
>> tried again, it asked for the 2nd factor and then the MFA box said
>> "write-access granted" and now I think it is working.
>> 
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/21/17, 2:09 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>> Muppirala"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Alex Harui >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Om for that info.  It doesn't seem to be working for me.  I
 entered
 auth for Apache and Github, but the MFA status is blank.  What did
>> you
 get?
 
 
>>> Did you enable 2FA in Github?
>>> Once you do that, it should take up to 30 minutes for the sync to
>>> happen.
>>> It took a while for me after I added the 2FA in Github.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> 
 -Alex
 
 On 9/21/17, 12:00 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
 Muppirala"
  wrote:
 
> Also, we all need to go here and finish the 3 step process to get
> write
> access:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
 https%3A%2F%2Fgitbox.ap
> ache.org%2Fsetup%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C2471774f25274722046c08d50123
 1fc8%7Cf
> a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> 7C636416172728153639=
 syF6PIH
> OgL%2FwS0p0ihe6hJq%2FgugJR7pErUZD0%2B7hsNc%3D=0
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Alex Harui
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Dave for the info.  Especially about the ids.
>> 
>> I've created an Infra ticket for GitBox. [1]  So far, nobody has
>> said
>> no.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Alex
>> 
>> [1]
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
 https%3A%2F%2Fissues.a
>> pache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FINFRA-15141=02%7C01%7C%
 7C2471774f2527472
>> 2046c08d501231fc8%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
 cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6364161727
>> 28153639=tmgQn%2FrqEf8eRUKCZP6uKGF4ZKyqyyu1vq
 TcvvJD9N8%3D=
>> 0
>> 
>> On 9/21/17, 11:35 AM, "Dave Fisher" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi -

Re: Royale is now an Apache Project

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Harbs  wrote:

> In principle, I agree with Om.
>
> The only reason I can think of to use JIRA is if there’s some reason to
> track issues not related to a specific repo. JIRA would give us a place to
> log those kinds of issues.
>
> Is there anything like that that folks can think of? Is there some way to
> use Github Issues for “general” issues if they exist?
>

Good point.  I haven't seen us create too many JIRAs for non-technical
bugs.
During release times, we create tickets to serve as a checklist.  I believe
we can do checklists using Markdown
For example: https://gist.github.com/pydanny/940641f591198c78b8a4

I've seen projects like Node.js use Github Issues to discuss and track
community issues, for example:
https://github.com/nodejs/help
In this case, they simply created a project called 'help' which is nothing
but a repo for holding Issues.

Thanks,
Om


>
> Harbs
>
> > On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:57 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
> wrote:
> >
> > Let's just use Github Issues, please.
> > One place for everything.  This makes it easier to refer to commits that
> > pertain to issues fixed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Alex Harui 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Infra is asking if we want to use JIRA or Github Issues to track bugs.
> >> The original plan was to use Github Issues.  We could use both, but I
> >> don't think that's necessary.  Does anyone think we should use JIRA?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/23/17, 12:24 PM, "Harbs"  wrote:
> >>
> >>> What a pain that I needed to active 2FA. Oh well…
> >>>
> >>> I got setup as well.
> >>>
> >>> Harbs
> >>>
>  On Sep 22, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Yes, I had just set up 2FA in GH and also just joined the ASF org.  I
>  went
>  and did both before going to the account linking page and it didn't
>  work.
>  I think there might have been a problem with already being logged into
>  GH?
>  I think the second box said I was auth'd for GH but didn't send the
> 2nd
>  factor auth.
> 
>  I logged out of GitHub and did something else for a while.  Then when
> I
>  tried again, it asked for the 2nd factor and then the MFA box said
>  "write-access granted" and now I think it is working.
> 
>  -Alex
> 
>  On 9/21/17, 2:09 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>  Muppirala"
>   wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Alex Harui  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Om for that info.  It doesn't seem to be working for me.  I
> >> entered
> >> auth for Apache and Github, but the MFA status is blank.  What did
> you
> >> get?
> >>
> >>
> > Did you enable 2FA in Github?
> > Once you do that, it should take up to 30 minutes for the sync to
> > happen.
> > It took a while for me after I added the 2FA in Github.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/21/17, 12:00 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> >> Muppirala"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Also, we all need to go here and finish the 3 step process to get
> >>> write
> >>> access:
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fgitbox.ap
> >>> ache.org%2Fsetup%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C2471774f25274722046c08d50123
> >> 1fc8%7Cf
> >>> a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C636416172728153639=
> >> syF6PIH
> >>> OgL%2FwS0p0ihe6hJq%2FgugJR7pErUZD0%2B7hsNc%3D=0
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Om
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Alex Harui
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Thanks Dave for the info.  Especially about the ids.
> 
>  I've created an Infra ticket for GitBox. [1]  So far, nobody has
>  said
>  no.
> 
>  Thanks,
>  -Alex
> 
>  [1]
>  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fissues.a
>  pache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FINFRA-15141=02%7C01%7C%
> >> 7C2471774f2527472
>  2046c08d501231fc8%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6364161727
>  28153639=tmgQn%2FrqEf8eRUKCZP6uKGF4ZKyqyyu1vq
> >> TcvvJD9N8%3D=
>  0
> 
>  On 9/21/17, 11:35 AM, "Dave Fisher" 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi -
> >
> > I am mentoring the Pulsar podling which is using Gitbox and a git
> >> wiki.
> > They came to Apache with an existing github project. They gave
> > Infra
> > admin rights and then they simply moved over.
> 

Re: Royale is now an Apache Project

[Harbs]

In principle, I agree with Om.

The only reason I can think of to use JIRA is if there’s some reason to track 
issues not related to a specific repo. JIRA would give us a place to log those 
kinds of issues.

Is there anything like that that folks can think of? Is there some way to use 
Github Issues for “general” issues if they exist?

Harbs

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:57 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala  wrote:
> 
> Let's just use Github Issues, please.
> One place for everything.  This makes it easier to refer to commits that
> pertain to issues fixed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Alex Harui 
> wrote:
> 
>> Infra is asking if we want to use JIRA or Github Issues to track bugs.
>> The original plan was to use Github Issues.  We could use both, but I
>> don't think that's necessary.  Does anyone think we should use JIRA?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/23/17, 12:24 PM, "Harbs"  wrote:
>> 
>>> What a pain that I needed to active 2FA. Oh well…
>>> 
>>> I got setup as well.
>>> 
>>> Harbs
>>> 
 On Sep 22, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui 
 wrote:
 
 Yes, I had just set up 2FA in GH and also just joined the ASF org.  I
 went
 and did both before going to the account linking page and it didn't
 work.
 I think there might have been a problem with already being logged into
 GH?
 I think the second box said I was auth'd for GH but didn't send the 2nd
 factor auth.
 
 I logged out of GitHub and did something else for a while.  Then when I
 tried again, it asked for the 2nd factor and then the MFA box said
 "write-access granted" and now I think it is working.
 
 -Alex
 
 On 9/21/17, 2:09 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
 Muppirala"
  wrote:
 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Alex Harui 
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Om for that info.  It doesn't seem to be working for me.  I
>> entered
>> auth for Apache and Github, but the MFA status is blank.  What did you
>> get?
>> 
>> 
> Did you enable 2FA in Github?
> Once you do that, it should take up to 30 minutes for the sync to
> happen.
> It took a while for me after I added the 2FA in Github.
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
> 
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/21/17, 12:00 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>> Muppirala"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Also, we all need to go here and finish the 3 step process to get
>>> write
>>> access:
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fgitbox.ap
>>> ache.org%2Fsetup%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C2471774f25274722046c08d50123
>> 1fc8%7Cf
>>> a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416172728153639=
>> syF6PIH
>>> OgL%2FwS0p0ihe6hJq%2FgugJR7pErUZD0%2B7hsNc%3D=0
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Alex Harui
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Dave for the info.  Especially about the ids.
 
 I've created an Infra ticket for GitBox. [1]  So far, nobody has
 said
 no.
 
 Thanks,
 -Alex
 
 [1]
 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> https%3A%2F%2Fissues.a
 pache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FINFRA-15141=02%7C01%7C%
>> 7C2471774f2527472
 2046c08d501231fc8%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6364161727
 28153639=tmgQn%2FrqEf8eRUKCZP6uKGF4ZKyqyyu1vq
>> TcvvJD9N8%3D=
 0
 
 On 9/21/17, 11:35 AM, "Dave Fisher"  wrote:
 
> Hi -
> 
> I am mentoring the Pulsar podling which is using Gitbox and a git
>> wiki.
> They came to Apache with an existing github project. They gave
> Infra
> admin rights and then they simply moved over.
> 
> For Git we will need to associate our Apache ids to our Github ids
>> at
> id.apache.org.
> 
> We need to request Git box from Infra as it is in a limited case by
 case
> basis since it is still new.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Alex Harui
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I have asked for
>> royale-asjs
>> royale-tourjs
>> royale-typedefs
>> royale-compiler
>> 
>> I will request Git website instead of SVN.
>> 
>> I will not request a wiki at this time.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/21/17, 9:26 AM,