Re: Retiring the project

2022-06-09 Thread Olaf Krüger
Hi, 

> That document is for podlings — not for TLPs.

Thanks for the hint, maybe this is the right resource, not sure:
https://attic.apache.org/

I found this from the Apache PMC overview, see [1]:

"In summary, the only reason for a project to move to the Attic is lack of 
oversight due to an insufficient number of active PMC members.
Note that going to the Attic is not necessarily a bad thing: it's merely a 
reflection that there isn't currently an active community to manage the 
project. It's also a clear way to set the right expectations for users of the 
project's code."

However, it looks like the project is still more relevant than it seems and as 
Harbs said, if we are still enough PMCs, we could leave everything as it is.

So, can we really guarantee to have at least 3 active PMC members?
Please reply if you're still commited to be an active Flex PMC member!

I didn't write any Flex/AS3 code for more than 2 or 3 years so please do not 
rely on me for another couple of years ;-)

As long as we're still enough PMCs I think everything is fine.
We should add a note to the board report that the project is silent but enough 
PMCs take care of if.

Thanks,
Olaf

[1]
https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic


On 2022/06/08 06:35:10 Harbs wrote:
> That document is for podlings — not for TLPs.
> 
> There’s nothing wrong with a project being in maintenance mode as long as 
> there’s enough of a PMC active.
> 
> I think we still have enough of a PMC to maintain the project and I think 
> people are still using Flex.
> 
> Harbs
> 
> > On Jun 8, 2022, at 8:26 AM, Olaf Krüger  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > we should thinking about retiring the project.
> > This seems to be the guideline to retire a project at Apache [1]
> > 
> > It looks like we need a community vote and some volunteers who helps with 
> > the process of retiring a project.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Olaf
> > 
> > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> > 
> 
> 


RE: Board report for June 2022 has been submitted

2022-06-08 Thread Olaf Krüger
>I would add that questions about Flex have been posted to Royale mailing lists.

Ah thanks, I wasn't aware of this because I do not follow the Royale list.


On 2022/06/09 05:35:58 Yishay Weiss wrote:
> >
> ## Community Health:
> During the last quarter, there was no mailing list activity at dev and nearly
> no activity at users.
> 
> I would add that questions about Flex have been posted to Royale mailing 
> lists.
> 
> From: Olaf Krüger<mailto:okrue...@apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:16 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org<mailto:dev@flex.apache.org>
> Subject: Board report for June 2022 has been submitted
> 
> ## Description:
> The mission of the Apache Flex project is to create and maintain software
> related to the development of expressive web applications that deploy to all
> major browsers, desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and tv)
> 
> ## Issues:
> There are no issues requiring board attention.
> 
> ## Membership Data:
> Apache Flex was founded 2012-12-19 (9 years ago)
> There are currently 68 committers and 45 PMC members in this project.
> The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 3:2.
> 
> Community changes, past quarter:
> - No new PMC members. Last addition was Olaf Krüger on 2017-08-28.
> - No new committers. Last addition was Greg Dove on 2016-09-07.
> 
> ## Project Activity:
> No changes have been made to the Flex framework for a long
> time and it is unlikely that another release will appear.
> We should think about retiring the project.
> 
> ## Releases:
> - Apache Flex SDK 4.16.1 on 2017-11-25
> - Apache Flex Installer 3.3.2 on 2018-07-14.
> 
> ## Community Health:
> During the last quarter, there was no mailing list activity at dev and nearly
> no activity at users.
> 
> 


Retiring the project

2022-06-07 Thread Olaf Krüger
Hi guys,

we should thinking about retiring the project.
This seems to be the guideline to retire a project at Apache [1]

It looks like we need a community vote and some volunteers who helps with the 
process of retiring a project.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Olaf

[1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html



Board report for June 2022 has been submitted

2022-06-07 Thread Olaf Krüger
## Description:
The mission of the Apache Flex project is to create and maintain software 
related to the development of expressive web applications that deploy to all 
major browsers, desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and tv)

## Issues:
There are no issues requiring board attention.

## Membership Data:
Apache Flex was founded 2012-12-19 (9 years ago)
There are currently 68 committers and 45 PMC members in this project.
The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 3:2.

Community changes, past quarter:
- No new PMC members. Last addition was Olaf Krüger on 2017-08-28.
- No new committers. Last addition was Greg Dove on 2016-09-07.

## Project Activity:
No changes have been made to the Flex framework for a long
time and it is unlikely that another release will appear.
We should think about retiring the project.

## Releases:
- Apache Flex SDK 4.16.1 on 2017-11-25
- Apache Flex Installer 3.3.2 on 2018-07-14.

## Community Health:
During the last quarter, there was no mailing list activity at dev and nearly
no activity at users.


Board report for December 2021 has been submitted

2021-12-06 Thread Olaf Krüger
Hi guys,

since there's nothing new to report and in order to ease things I directly 
submitted the due December board report without letting you proofread it... 
hope that's ok for you!

The report is available at our wiki [1]

I think we'll need to think about archiving the project in 2022?

Thanks,
Olaf

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/December+2021


Re: [DISCUSS} Fork FlexJS from Apache Flex

2017-08-29 Thread Olaf Krüger
> "thanks" for the "degradation"

Please don't start the new project with trouble!
I hope that there are no doubts that Chris is an important part of the PMC.

Thanks,
Olaf