Re: CORBA Incubation setup procedures

2006-02-09 Thread Leo Simons
(infra@ dropped from CC on purpose)

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:41:26PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
 Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
  I think I need:
  
  * SVN
o http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/yoko
  * Jira
  * Mailing lists
o [EMAIL PROTECTED]
o [EMAIL PROTECTED]
o [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hang on a moment.  I see that Geronimo is cool with it,
 but I don't see any discussion of this proposal on
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  just the message saying
 that Geronimo wants to sponsor it.
 
 Before we start setting things up, I'd really like to
 call for some opinions about the proposal from *outside*
 the sponsoring TLP.
 
 Alan's message points out that the proposal is at
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorbaProposal
 
 Anyone on general@incubator.apache.org have any comments
 to make on the proposal?  Even just 'yeah, looks good
 to me' ?

No way. *shrug*.

 Mine is that 22 seems a rather large number (!) of initial
 committers for a podling..

And the amount of publicly archived discussion about it or
what the  is precisely going on or anything like that is
also shockingly missing.

 If nothing further comes from this message within a couple
 of days, let's go ahead.

Personally and as an ASF member, I think its not a good idea
to have a CORBA implementation under the wings of the geronimo
project (Re: umbrella projects bad threads from long ago).

As an incubator PMC member, I don't think the incubator should
be telling the geronimo project that they shouldn't have a
CORBA implementation. As I see it, that's a responsibility for
the geronimo PMC (which obviously seems to disagree), its chair
(eg, you), the ASF board, and ultimately the membership. I think
both you and the ASF board are well aware of what is going on
within the geronimo project and I trust that things will work
out one way or another in the end.

Secondly, as an incubator PMC member, I think the geronimo project
is not fulfilling its part of the incubation process and not
communicating enough at all and its making me very grumpy.

I wrote a rather generic message tot [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] about this stuff recently. This is just
another example. The only further action I'll be taking with
regard to this mess is ignoring it until it goes away.

- LSD


Re: CORBA Incubation setup procedures

2006-02-09 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
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Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

Anyone on general@incubator.apache.org have any comments
to make on the proposal?  Even just 'yeah, looks good
to me' ?
 
 CRAP. CRAP. CRAP. CRAP. 
 
 I could have sworn that I sent this to general@incubator.apache.org as 
 well.  Sorry, my bad!  (Sorry Geir, I was wrong!)

You did, at least the 'here's how the Geronimo project
voted' message.  No followup or call for discussion,
but the first tile *was* laid.  If you meant you thought
you had sent something else here, I didn't see it.
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Re: CORBA Incubation setup procedures

2006-02-09 Thread Alan D. Cabrera

On 2/8/2006 7:27 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:


ALL incubator requests for infrastructure MUST be reflected in an
appropriate status file under

  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html

before they are requested.  There are no exceptions.

Roy


I shall do this.


Regards,
Alan



CORBA Incubation setup procedures

2006-02-08 Thread Alan D. Cabrera




I think I need:


  SVN
  
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/yoko 
  
  Jira
  Mailing lists
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

Regards,
Alan






Re: CORBA Incubation setup procedures

2006-02-08 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
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Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
 I think I need:
 
 * SVN
   o http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/yoko
 * Jira
 * Mailing lists
   o [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   o [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   o [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hang on a moment.  I see that Geronimo is cool with it,
but I don't see any discussion of this proposal on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  just the message saying
that Geronimo wants to sponsor it.

Before we start setting things up, I'd really like to
call for some opinions about the proposal from *outside*
the sponsoring TLP.

Alan's message points out that the proposal is at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorbaProposal

Anyone on general@incubator.apache.org have any comments
to make on the proposal?  Even just 'yeah, looks good
to me' ?

Mine is that 22 seems a rather large number (!) of initial
committers for a podling..

If nothing further comes from this message within a couple
of days, let's go ahead.
- --
#kenP-)}

Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist  http://Apache-Server.Com/

Millennium hand and shrimp!
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Re: CORBA Incubation setup procedures

2006-02-08 Thread Alan D. Cabrera




On 2/8/2006 5:41 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

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Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
  
  
I think I need:

* SVN
  o http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/yoko
* Jira
* Mailing lists
  o [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  o [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  o [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  
Hang on a moment.  I see that Geronimo is cool with it,
but I don't see any discussion of this proposal on
general@incubator.apache.org..  just the message saying
that Geronimo wants to sponsor it.

Before we start setting things up, I'd really like to
call for some opinions about the proposal from *outside*
the sponsoring TLP.

Alan's message points out that the proposal is at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorbaProposal

Anyone on general@incubator.apache.org have any comments
to make on the proposal?  Even just 'yeah, looks good
to me' ?
  

CRAP. CRAP. CRAP. CRAP. 

I could have sworn that I sent this to general@incubator.apache.org as
well. Sorry, my bad! (Sorry Geir, I was wrong!)

  Mine is that 22 seems a rather large number (!) of initial
committers for a podling..
  

A real CORBA server is as complicated as a J2EE server.

  
If nothing further comes from this message within a couple
of days, let's go ahead.
  


Cool.


Regards,
Alan







Re: CORBA Incubation setup procedures

2006-02-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding

ALL incubator requests for infrastructure MUST be reflected in an
appropriate status file under

  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html

before they are requested.  There are no exceptions.

Roy