Re: Plugin stuff

2007-09-08 Thread Paul McMahan
Wow,  this all looks great!  Now that the underlying stuff is more  
stabilized and functionally complete I can help bring the admin  
console up to date.  I think the CLI might also need some touching up.


One question I have is should we keep the reference to:
http://www.geronimoplugins.com/repository/geronimo-1.1/
in the default source-repositories listed in configs/pom.xml?  I  
don't know if there are any plans to provide a repository of  
geronimo's 2.x plugin artifacts or their dependencies from that  
location.  If there plans for that then we should leave the reference  
in place (the more repos the better, I say) but may need to update  
the geronimo version number in the URL.


I'm also thinking we should add a reference to:
http://geronimo.apache.org/plugins/geronimo-2.1/
in the source-repo list in configs/pom.xml and update that URL as we  
increment the server version and create new repos.   Or maybe we  
should start using a single repo and URL for all versions of geronimo  
since GERONIMO-3330 has been implemented.  Now that the catalog  
schema provides this flexibility we can decide how to use it -  one  
repo and catalog for supporting multiple versions of geronimo or a  
repo for each version.   We have discussed some pros and cons of both  
options.  I'm pretty sure that plugin repos like the one at  
geronimo.liferay.com will want to use a single repo since its easier  
to update and maintain the catalog.  But for our server plugins we  
may want to have a repo per version since the car maven plugin can  
automagically create the catalog (very cool feature).


Best wishes,
Paul

On Sep 7, 2007, at 8:00 PM, David Jencks wrote:

I think the plugin installer stuff might be pretty much  
functionally complete.


In the plugin-config.xml you can specify bits of config.xml,  
artifact_aliases.properties, and config-substitutions.properties.   
I think this might be enough installation stuff to build a server.


The car-maven-plugin now:

- constructs the geronimo-plugin.xml and processes the plan.xml.
- dependencies can be from the maven dependencies with or without  
versions (all compile and runtime dependencies in the current pom  
are included)
- or dependencies can be explicitly specified in the c-m-p  
configuration.
- bits like name, descriptions, licesnes, url, moduleId are derived  
from the pom with normal maven inheritance.
- everything else in the geronimo-plugin.xml is derived from a  
template in the pom.  There are 2 of these: a commonInstance you  
can put in a parent pom that provides defaults, and an instance  
that you put in the pom itself.  Collections in the instance  
replace rather than add to stuff specified in the commonInstance.   
Both of these follow the plugin-artifactType but you can leave out  
xml namespaces.  Don't have more than one of instance or  
commonInstance in any sequence of pom ancestors: maven  
interpolation doesn't work on these and will break whatever you are  
trying to do.


- when you build a car, the plugin will update ~/.m2/repository/ 
geronimo-plugins.xml with the new geronimo-plugin.xml information.


- to construct an entirely new geronimo-plugins.xml in your local  
maven repo run

mvn org.apache.geronimo.plugins:car-maven-plugin:create-pluginlist

I've set the default repo list to include this in the local maven  
repo for the jetty javaee assembly on osx.  I'd like it if someone  
with a windows setup could test if it works on windows as well.   
Then we can update the tomcat configuration.  To test, update and  
build trunk, start the jetty javaee server, and on a separate  
console window run java -jar bin/deployer.jar search-plugins


You should see the local maven  repo listed and if you select it  
you should see all the cars in the server listed.


The stuff in the admin console works a little bit but still needs  
some TLC from someone with a clue about UIs.


thanks
david jencks

On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:55 AM, David Jencks wrote:


I've committed what I have so far:

- use new plugin schema
- generate geronimo-plugin.xml files for each car from pom.xml
- generate plan environment section from explicitly listed car- 
maven-plugin configuration instead of from maven dependencies.  We  
check that each dependency listed in the maven plugin config is  
actually present in the maven dependencies section.

- moved car plans to src/main/plan/plan.xml
- include plan in the car for reference.

Problems/left to do:
- I haven't converted many of the car poms to actually generate  
the correct geronimo-plugin.xml or the correct plan, so most plans  
have the previously generated dependencies in them.   There are a  
lot (nearly 100) so if anyone wants to help me update the poms  
that would be great.  I did do a few of the cars with existing  
geronimo-plugin.xmls.
- the xml configuration format in pom.xml is adapted for maven,  
not for jaxb.  It would be great if we could figure out how to   
make the configuration in pom.xml 

Re: Plugin stuff

2007-09-07 Thread David Jencks
I think the plugin installer stuff might be pretty much functionally  
complete.


In the plugin-config.xml you can specify bits of config.xml,  
artifact_aliases.properties, and config-substitutions.properties.  I  
think this might be enough installation stuff to build a server.


The car-maven-plugin now:

- constructs the geronimo-plugin.xml and processes the plan.xml.
- dependencies can be from the maven dependencies with or without  
versions (all compile and runtime dependencies in the current pom are  
included)
- or dependencies can be explicitly specified in the c-m-p  
configuration.
- bits like name, descriptions, licesnes, url, moduleId are derived  
from the pom with normal maven inheritance.
- everything else in the geronimo-plugin.xml is derived from a  
template in the pom.  There are 2 of these: a commonInstance you can  
put in a parent pom that provides defaults, and an instance that you  
put in the pom itself.  Collections in the instance replace rather  
than add to stuff specified in the commonInstance.  Both of these  
follow the plugin-artifactType but you can leave out xml namespaces.   
Don't have more than one of instance or commonInstance in any  
sequence of pom ancestors: maven interpolation doesn't work on these  
and will break whatever you are trying to do.


- when you build a car, the plugin will update ~/.m2/repository/ 
geronimo-plugins.xml with the new geronimo-plugin.xml information.


- to construct an entirely new geronimo-plugins.xml in your local  
maven repo run

mvn org.apache.geronimo.plugins:car-maven-plugin:create-pluginlist

I've set the default repo list to include this in the local maven  
repo for the jetty javaee assembly on osx.  I'd like it if someone  
with a windows setup could test if it works on windows as well.  Then  
we can update the tomcat configuration.  To test, update and build  
trunk, start the jetty javaee server, and on a separate console  
window run java -jar bin/deployer.jar search-plugins


You should see the local maven  repo listed and if you select it you  
should see all the cars in the server listed.


The stuff in the admin console works a little bit but still needs  
some TLC from someone with a clue about UIs.


thanks
david jencks

On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:55 AM, David Jencks wrote:


I've committed what I have so far:

- use new plugin schema
- generate geronimo-plugin.xml files for each car from pom.xml
- generate plan environment section from explicitly listed car- 
maven-plugin configuration instead of from maven dependencies.  We  
check that each dependency listed in the maven plugin config is  
actually present in the maven dependencies section.

- moved car plans to src/main/plan/plan.xml
- include plan in the car for reference.

Problems/left to do:
- I haven't converted many of the car poms to actually generate the  
correct geronimo-plugin.xml or the correct plan, so most plans have  
the previously generated dependencies in them.   There are a lot  
(nearly 100) so if anyone wants to help me update the poms that  
would be great.  I did do a few of the cars with existing geronimo- 
plugin.xmls.
- the xml configuration format in pom.xml is adapted for maven, not  
for jaxb.  It would be great if we could figure out how to  make  
the configuration in pom.xml look more like geronimo-plugins.xml or  
the environment element.
- The cli search-plugins and console plugin installer work, but  
only sort of.  For instance they don't show you which plugins are  
installed or would have problems due to prerequisite or obsoletes  
problems.  I'm hoping someone less clueless about uis can help with  
this part.
- in order to get this to work quickly I added jaxb dependencies to  
lib.  I think this is really bad and hope we can figure out how to  
remove them again.


Let me know if I've broken other stuff :-)

thanks
david jencks


On Aug 31, 2007, at 10:28 AM, David Jencks wrote:

So I have the code compiling but now all the geronimo-plugin.xml  
files are in the old format... :-(


I'm going to look into generating them in the car-maven-plugin  
along with making a car-maven-plugin configuration that includes  
the dependencies more directly so we don't spend hours trying to  
generate them from the maven dependencies.


thanks
david jencks

suffering from feature creep...

On Aug 29, 2007, at 12:26 PM, David Jencks wrote:

I'm going to take a couple days to see if I can get the plugin  
installer in better shape.


My goals are:
- new schema as in GERONIMO-3330
- jaxb based
- easier to use the local maven repo as a plugin repo.  This  
might be done by having a scan repo and generate geronimo- 
plugins.xml from all the plugins we find function.
- let plugin xml contain more global bits.  Right now it can  
contain config.xml bits, it should be able to  modify other  
config.xml type files (offline deployer, etc) and  
artifact_aliases and config-substitutions properties files.  The  
changes to the properties files need 

Re: Plugin stuff

2007-09-05 Thread Prasad Kashyap
On 9/3/07, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've committed what I have so far:

 - use new plugin schema
 - generate geronimo-plugin.xml files for each car from pom.xml
 - generate plan environment section from explicitly listed car-maven-
 plugin configuration instead of from maven dependencies.  We check
 that each dependency listed in the maven plugin config is actually
 present in the maven dependencies section.
 - moved car plans to src/main/plan/plan.xml
 - include plan in the car for reference.

 Problems/left to do:
 - I haven't converted many of the car poms to actually generate the
 correct geronimo-plugin.xml or the correct plan, so most plans have
 the previously generated dependencies in them.   There are a lot
 (nearly 100) so if anyone wants to help me update the poms that would
 be great.  I did do a few of the cars with existing geronimo-plugin.xmls.

Awesome. I'll help you update these.

 thanks
 david jencks


Cheers
Prasad


 On Aug 31, 2007, at 10:28 AM, David Jencks wrote:

  So I have the code compiling but now all the geronimo-plugin.xml
  files are in the old format... :-(
 
  I'm going to look into generating them in the car-maven-plugin
  along with making a car-maven-plugin configuration that includes
  the dependencies more directly so we don't spend hours trying to
  generate them from the maven dependencies.
 
  thanks
  david jencks
 
  suffering from feature creep...
 
  On Aug 29, 2007, at 12:26 PM, David Jencks wrote:
 
  I'm going to take a couple days to see if I can get the plugin
  installer in better shape.
 
  My goals are:
  - new schema as in GERONIMO-3330
  - jaxb based
  - easier to use the local maven repo as a plugin repo.  This might
  be done by having a scan repo and generate geronimo-plugins.xml
  from all the plugins we find function.
  - let plugin xml contain more global bits.  Right now it can
  contain config.xml bits, it should be able to  modify other
  config.xml type files (offline deployer, etc) and artifact_aliases
  and config-substitutions properties files.  The changes to the
  properties files need to be live so e.g. when the plugin is
  started the new entries get used.
 
  thanks
  david jencks
 
 
 




Re: Plugin stuff

2007-09-04 Thread Paul McMahan

On Sep 3, 2007, at 1:55 PM, David Jencks wrote:


I've committed what I have so far:

- use new plugin schema
- generate geronimo-plugin.xml files for each car from pom.xml
- generate plan environment section from explicitly listed car- 
maven-plugin configuration instead of from maven dependencies.  We  
check that each dependency listed in the maven plugin config is  
actually present in the maven dependencies section.

- moved car plans to src/main/plan/plan.xml
- include plan in the car for reference.


Thanks David this is great stuff!

- The cli search-plugins and console plugin installer work, but  
only sort of.  For instance they don't show you which plugins are  
installed or would have problems due to prerequisite or obsoletes  
problems.  I'm hoping someone less clueless about uis can help with  
this part.


I can probably help some on this.  If the details are still fresh on  
your mind then you might want to capture them in a JIRA or I'll just  
ping you on IRC if necessary when I get a chance to take a look  
(hopefully this week).



Best wishes,
Paul



Re: Plugin stuff

2007-09-03 Thread David Jencks

I've committed what I have so far:

- use new plugin schema
- generate geronimo-plugin.xml files for each car from pom.xml
- generate plan environment section from explicitly listed car-maven- 
plugin configuration instead of from maven dependencies.  We check  
that each dependency listed in the maven plugin config is actually  
present in the maven dependencies section.

- moved car plans to src/main/plan/plan.xml
- include plan in the car for reference.

Problems/left to do:
- I haven't converted many of the car poms to actually generate the  
correct geronimo-plugin.xml or the correct plan, so most plans have  
the previously generated dependencies in them.   There are a lot  
(nearly 100) so if anyone wants to help me update the poms that would  
be great.  I did do a few of the cars with existing geronimo- 
plugin.xmls.
- the xml configuration format in pom.xml is adapted for maven, not  
for jaxb.  It would be great if we could figure out how to  make the  
configuration in pom.xml look more like geronimo-plugins.xml or the  
environment element.
- The cli search-plugins and console plugin installer work, but only  
sort of.  For instance they don't show you which plugins are  
installed or would have problems due to prerequisite or obsoletes  
problems.  I'm hoping someone less clueless about uis can help with  
this part.
- in order to get this to work quickly I added jaxb dependencies to  
lib.  I think this is really bad and hope we can figure out how to  
remove them again.


Let me know if I've broken other stuff :-)

thanks
david jencks


On Aug 31, 2007, at 10:28 AM, David Jencks wrote:

So I have the code compiling but now all the geronimo-plugin.xml  
files are in the old format... :-(


I'm going to look into generating them in the car-maven-plugin  
along with making a car-maven-plugin configuration that includes  
the dependencies more directly so we don't spend hours trying to  
generate them from the maven dependencies.


thanks
david jencks

suffering from feature creep...

On Aug 29, 2007, at 12:26 PM, David Jencks wrote:

I'm going to take a couple days to see if I can get the plugin  
installer in better shape.


My goals are:
- new schema as in GERONIMO-3330
- jaxb based
- easier to use the local maven repo as a plugin repo.  This might  
be done by having a scan repo and generate geronimo-plugins.xml  
from all the plugins we find function.
- let plugin xml contain more global bits.  Right now it can  
contain config.xml bits, it should be able to  modify other  
config.xml type files (offline deployer, etc) and artifact_aliases  
and config-substitutions properties files.  The changes to the  
properties files need to be live so e.g. when the plugin is  
started the new entries get used.


thanks
david jencks








Re: Plugin stuff

2007-08-31 Thread David Jencks
So I have the code compiling but now all the geronimo-plugin.xml  
files are in the old format... :-(


I'm going to look into generating them in the car-maven-plugin along  
with making a car-maven-plugin configuration that includes the  
dependencies more directly so we don't spend hours trying to generate  
them from the maven dependencies.


thanks
david jencks

suffering from feature creep...

On Aug 29, 2007, at 12:26 PM, David Jencks wrote:

I'm going to take a couple days to see if I can get the plugin  
installer in better shape.


My goals are:
- new schema as in GERONIMO-3330
- jaxb based
- easier to use the local maven repo as a plugin repo.  This might  
be done by having a scan repo and generate geronimo-plugins.xml  
from all the plugins we find function.
- let plugin xml contain more global bits.  Right now it can  
contain config.xml bits, it should be able to  modify other  
config.xml type files (offline deployer, etc) and artifact_aliases  
and config-substitutions properties files.  The changes to the  
properties files need to be live so e.g. when the plugin is started  
the new entries get used.


thanks
david jencks






Plugin stuff

2007-08-29 Thread David Jencks
I'm going to take a couple days to see if I can get the plugin  
installer in better shape.


My goals are:
- new schema as in GERONIMO-3330
- jaxb based
- easier to use the local maven repo as a plugin repo.  This might be  
done by having a scan repo and generate geronimo-plugins.xml from  
all the plugins we find function.
- let plugin xml contain more global bits.  Right now it can contain  
config.xml bits, it should be able to  modify other config.xml type  
files (offline deployer, etc) and artifact_aliases and config- 
substitutions properties files.  The changes to the properties files  
need to be live so e.g. when the plugin is started the new entries  
get used.


thanks
david jencks




Re: Plugin stuff

2007-08-29 Thread Paul McMahan

This sounds great!  Thanks David.

Best wishes,
Paul

On Aug 29, 2007, at 3:26 PM, David Jencks wrote:

I'm going to take a couple days to see if I can get the plugin  
installer in better shape.


My goals are:
- new schema as in GERONIMO-3330
- jaxb based
- easier to use the local maven repo as a plugin repo.  This might  
be done by having a scan repo and generate geronimo-plugins.xml  
from all the plugins we find function.
- let plugin xml contain more global bits.  Right now it can  
contain config.xml bits, it should be able to  modify other  
config.xml type files (offline deployer, etc) and artifact_aliases  
and config-substitutions properties files.  The changes to the  
properties files need to be live so e.g. when the plugin is started  
the new entries get used.


thanks
david jencks