Re: [DISCUSS] Creating additional lists for announcements and JIRA

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Jumper
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:16 PM Mike Jumper  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:04 PM Nick Couchman  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 17:38 Mike Jumper 
>>
>> > >
>> > > I'll also use this opportunity to ping on the topic of resurrecting
>> the
>> > > Guacamole Twitter account - any further thoughts/discussion on this?
>> > >
>> >
>> > I think the main issue with Twitter is that there can be only one set of
>> > credentials. AFAIK, we can't have a project account to which various
>> people
>> > have permission to post without sharing a username/password. Other than
>> > that, I would have nothing against a project Twitter account, though I'm
>> > not sure I would find occasion to post to it except at release time. I
>> do
>> > see other Apache projects with a PMC-wide twitter, so it should be
>> > doable...
>> >
>> > Are you familiar with any way to share a Twitter account without having
>> to
>> > share credentials?
>> >
>>
>> Admittedly, no, I don't know if a great way to do this.  I did stumble
>> across this:
>>
>> https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/tweetdeck-teams
>>
>> Looks like it may be doable there, and we'd just have to have someone  be
>> the primary account holder and hold the credentials, and that person could
>> grant access to others?
>
>
> Since I'm the one with the credentials to the old account, I can give that
> a shot.
>
> I'll also try to rename from @GuacDev to something like @ApacheGuacamole.
>

All set: https://twitter.com/ApacheGuacamole

Since granting access to tweetdeck requires Twitter accounts, I'll send a
separate email on private@ to ask for usernames of any PMC members having
accounts.

- Mike


Re: [DISCUSS] Creating additional lists for announcements and JIRA

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Jumper
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:04 PM Nick Couchman  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 17:38 Mike Jumper 
>
> > >
> > > I'll also use this opportunity to ping on the topic of resurrecting the
> > > Guacamole Twitter account - any further thoughts/discussion on this?
> > >
> >
> > I think the main issue with Twitter is that there can be only one set of
> > credentials. AFAIK, we can't have a project account to which various
> people
> > have permission to post without sharing a username/password. Other than
> > that, I would have nothing against a project Twitter account, though I'm
> > not sure I would find occasion to post to it except at release time. I do
> > see other Apache projects with a PMC-wide twitter, so it should be
> > doable...
> >
> > Are you familiar with any way to share a Twitter account without having
> to
> > share credentials?
> >
>
> Admittedly, no, I don't know if a great way to do this.  I did stumble
> across this:
>
> https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/tweetdeck-teams
>
> Looks like it may be doable there, and we'd just have to have someone  be
> the primary account holder and hold the credentials, and that person could
> grant access to others?


Since I'm the one with the credentials to the old account, I can give that
a shot.

I'll also try to rename from @GuacDev to something like @ApacheGuacamole.

- Mike


Re: [DISCUSS] Creating additional lists for announcements and JIRA

2019-01-07 Thread Nick Couchman
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 17:38 Mike Jumper 

> >
> > I'll also use this opportunity to ping on the topic of resurrecting the
> > Guacamole Twitter account - any further thoughts/discussion on this?
> >
>
> I think the main issue with Twitter is that there can be only one set of
> credentials. AFAIK, we can't have a project account to which various people
> have permission to post without sharing a username/password. Other than
> that, I would have nothing against a project Twitter account, though I'm
> not sure I would find occasion to post to it except at release time. I do
> see other Apache projects with a PMC-wide twitter, so it should be
> doable...
>
> Are you familiar with any way to share a Twitter account without having to
> share credentials?
>

Admittedly, no, I don't know if a great way to do this.  I did stumble
across this:

https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/tweetdeck-teams

Looks like it may be doable there, and we'd just have to have someone  be
the primary account holder and hold the credentials, and that person could
grant access to others?


-Nick

>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Creating additional lists for announcements and JIRA

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Jumper
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:38 PM Mike Jumper  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:20 PM Nick Couchman  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM Mike Jumper  wrote:
>>
>> > It occurs to me that it might be beneficial to have a low-traffic
>> announce@
>> > list for Guacamole which would receive only things like release
>> > announcements or security advisories.
>> >
>> ...
>
> >
>> > Similarly, JIRA issues and comments currently go to commits@. Perhaps a
>> > separate issues@ list would be more appropriate, leaving commits@ for
>> > truly
>> > only pushed git commits?
>> >
>>
>> This is probably a good idea, too.  Concurrently, I'd like to make sure
>> I'm
>> on both the commits@ and issues@ lists - I'm not 100% certain I get
>> either
>> JIRA issues or pushed commits at the moment, unless I'm tagged on them
>> specifically.
>>
>
> I'll move ahead with creating the lists and see how things go.
>
>
Alrighty - creation of the issues@ list has been queued. Once the list is
ready, I'll open a ticket with Infra to update the JIRA project to send all
mail there.

Since the announce@ list needs special setup (only posts from apache.org
addresses should be allowed), I've opened a ticket with Infra for that:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17578

- Mike


Re: [DISCUSS] Creating additional lists for announcements and JIRA

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Jumper
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:20 PM Nick Couchman  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM Mike Jumper  wrote:
>
> > It occurs to me that it might be beneficial to have a low-traffic
> announce@
> > list for Guacamole which would receive only things like release
> > announcements or security advisories.
> >
>
> Sounds good to me.  I'm hoping this year will see an increase in number of
> release (and, thus, release traffic) with the adoption of the new
> versioning scheme :-D.
>
> I'll also use this opportunity to ping on the topic of resurrecting the
> Guacamole Twitter account - any further thoughts/discussion on this?
>

I think the main issue with Twitter is that there can be only one set of
credentials. AFAIK, we can't have a project account to which various people
have permission to post without sharing a username/password. Other than
that, I would have nothing against a project Twitter account, though I'm
not sure I would find occasion to post to it except at release time. I do
see other Apache projects with a PMC-wide twitter, so it should be doable...

Are you familiar with any way to share a Twitter account without having to
share credentials?


> >
> > Similarly, JIRA issues and comments currently go to commits@. Perhaps a
> > separate issues@ list would be more appropriate, leaving commits@ for
> > truly
> > only pushed git commits?
> >
>
> This is probably a good idea, too.  Concurrently, I'd like to make sure I'm
> on both the commits@ and issues@ lists - I'm not 100% certain I get either
> JIRA issues or pushed commits at the moment, unless I'm tagged on them
> specifically.
>

I'll move ahead with creating the lists and see how things go.

We should poke the other members of the PMC (as well as any non-PMC
committers) to subscribe if not already subscribed. I can manually check to
see who's missing.

- Mike


Re: [DISCUSS] Creating additional lists for announcements and JIRA

2019-01-07 Thread Nick Couchman
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM Mike Jumper  wrote:

> It occurs to me that it might be beneficial to have a low-traffic announce@
> list for Guacamole which would receive only things like release
> announcements or security advisories.
>

Sounds good to me.  I'm hoping this year will see an increase in number of
release (and, thus, release traffic) with the adoption of the new
versioning scheme :-D.

I'll also use this opportunity to ping on the topic of resurrecting the
Guacamole Twitter account - any further thoughts/discussion on this?


>
> Similarly, JIRA issues and comments currently go to commits@. Perhaps a
> separate issues@ list would be more appropriate, leaving commits@ for
> truly
> only pushed git commits?
>

This is probably a good idea, too.  Concurrently, I'd like to make sure I'm
on both the commits@ and issues@ lists - I'm not 100% certain I get either
JIRA issues or pushed commits at the moment, unless I'm tagged on them
specifically.

-Nick


[DISCUSS] Creating additional lists for announcements and JIRA

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Jumper
It occurs to me that it might be beneficial to have a low-traffic announce@
list for Guacamole which would receive only things like release
announcements or security advisories.

Similarly, JIRA issues and comments currently go to commits@. Perhaps a
separate issues@ list would be more appropriate, leaving commits@ for truly
only pushed git commits?

Thoughts?

- Mike