Re: Board Report?

2015-01-06 Thread Lewis John Mcgibbney
I agree with your last sentence entirely and thank you for the context.
Ta
Lewis

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:01 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Lewis,

 I'll explain, for yours and  Andrew's sake.

 There was an issue last month I think where a mentor couldn't update the
 wiki for some reason (technical in nature).  He requested the PPMC to sign
 his name on the report.  The commit looked like it was just someone signing
 off for someone else (no context). This set off some alarms.

 It was requested that if you do sign off, include a link to the mail
 archive with the request.

 From my point of view, no such technical issue was in this case.
 Considering the major mentor issues being raised on the general list, I'd
 prefer to not see this.  Mentors signing off on the report are very
 important.

 John

 On Tue Jan 06 2015 at 3:37:05 PM Lewis John Mcgibbney 
 lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com wrote:

  John,
  The report looks good to me and reflects what I am seeing taking place
  within the community.
  I think it is well understood that this is a case of people trying to
 help
  out where they can based on the time they have. It was appreciated from
 my
  point of view.
  As always, I've checked the full report as it now appears on the wiki.
  What the issue here is I am not sure. Michael is a mentor of the project
  anyways is he not?
  Thanks
  Lewis
 
  On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:33 AM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org
  wrote:
 
   Mentors,
  
   I'm very concerned over what I see here.
  
   - You should be signing off on the report on the wiki, not asking the
  PPMC
   to add your sign off.
   - If you have issues accessing the wiki, please request access on the
   general@ mailing list.
  
   PPMC members,
  
   I'm concerned over the statement With oks from three mentors and Nick
   The incubator expects that all mentors sign off on the report, but you
   shouldn't wait for the mentors OK to post it to the wiki.
   Please also hold your mentors accountable to sign off on the report.
  
   I plan to remove the mentor checks from the incubator report shortly.
  
   John
  
   On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney 
   lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Good job
   
On Monday, January 5, 2015, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote:
   
 Thank you Lewis.

 With oks from three mentors and Nick, let me post this to the wiki.
  If
any
 more comments, no problem, I'll edit them in.

 Thanks,
 St.Ack

 On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney 
 lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:

  Hi St.Ack,
  Report looks good to me. Please duly assign my X
  I've been silently monitoring HTrace and very pleased to see RC's
   going
 up.
  I'll be VOTE'ing on next ones in an attempt to drive first
  Incubating
  release.
  Great job folks.
  Thanks
  Lewis
 
  On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net
javascript:;
 wrote:
 
   Thank you for the ping, Mr Project Shepherd.
  
   What would folks add to the below? (Below is the template taken
   from
   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2015 filled in). If
 you
   are
a
   mentor and below is good by you, ack and I'll add in an 'x' for
  you
in
  the
   mentors box below.
  
   St.Ack
  
  
   
   HTrace
  
   HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
systems
   written in java.
  
   HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11.
  
   Three most important issues to address in the move towards
graduation:
  
 1. Make our first release from incubator
 2. Move dependent projects over to the incubator version
 3. Continue to grow user and contributor base; i.e. grow the
 community.
  
   Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
  to
   be
   aware of?
  
   None
  
   How has the community developed since the last report?
  
   * 141 messages on dev@htrace
   * 42 issues resolved and 11 open
  
   How has the project developed since the last report?
  
   * This is our first report.
   * We are fully moved over to Apache Infrastructure now (thanks
 in
   particular to Jake Farrell for help here).
   * We have our first htrace website published.
   * Development of an easy to deploy htraced trace sink and
visualization
  is
   moving along nicely.
   * An htrace receiver for Apache Flume was contributed.
   * We have put up 5 release candidates for our 1st podling
 release
with
 a
   6th on its way.
  
   Date of last release:
  
 None as yet.
  
   When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
  
None since initial setup.
  
   Signed-off-by:
  
 [ 

Re: Board Report?

2015-01-06 Thread John D. Ament
Lewis,

I'll explain, for yours and  Andrew's sake.

There was an issue last month I think where a mentor couldn't update the
wiki for some reason (technical in nature).  He requested the PPMC to sign
his name on the report.  The commit looked like it was just someone signing
off for someone else (no context). This set off some alarms.

It was requested that if you do sign off, include a link to the mail
archive with the request.

From my point of view, no such technical issue was in this case.
Considering the major mentor issues being raised on the general list, I'd
prefer to not see this.  Mentors signing off on the report are very
important.

John

On Tue Jan 06 2015 at 3:37:05 PM Lewis John Mcgibbney 
lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com wrote:

 John,
 The report looks good to me and reflects what I am seeing taking place
 within the community.
 I think it is well understood that this is a case of people trying to help
 out where they can based on the time they have. It was appreciated from my
 point of view.
 As always, I've checked the full report as it now appears on the wiki.
 What the issue here is I am not sure. Michael is a mentor of the project
 anyways is he not?
 Thanks
 Lewis

 On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:33 AM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org
 wrote:

  Mentors,
 
  I'm very concerned over what I see here.
 
  - You should be signing off on the report on the wiki, not asking the
 PPMC
  to add your sign off.
  - If you have issues accessing the wiki, please request access on the
  general@ mailing list.
 
  PPMC members,
 
  I'm concerned over the statement With oks from three mentors and Nick
  The incubator expects that all mentors sign off on the report, but you
  shouldn't wait for the mentors OK to post it to the wiki.
  Please also hold your mentors accountable to sign off on the report.
 
  I plan to remove the mentor checks from the incubator report shortly.
 
  John
 
  On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney 
  lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Good job
  
   On Monday, January 5, 2015, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote:
  
Thank you Lewis.
   
With oks from three mentors and Nick, let me post this to the wiki.
 If
   any
more comments, no problem, I'll edit them in.
   
Thanks,
St.Ack
   
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney 
lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:
   
 Hi St.Ack,
 Report looks good to me. Please duly assign my X
 I've been silently monitoring HTrace and very pleased to see RC's
  going
up.
 I'll be VOTE'ing on next ones in an attempt to drive first
 Incubating
 release.
 Great job folks.
 Thanks
 Lewis

 On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net
   javascript:;
wrote:

  Thank you for the ping, Mr Project Shepherd.
 
  What would folks add to the below? (Below is the template taken
  from
  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2015 filled in). If you
  are
   a
  mentor and below is good by you, ack and I'll add in an 'x' for
 you
   in
 the
  mentors box below.
 
  St.Ack
 
 
  
  HTrace
 
  HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
   systems
  written in java.
 
  HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11.
 
  Three most important issues to address in the move towards
   graduation:
 
1. Make our first release from incubator
2. Move dependent projects over to the incubator version
3. Continue to grow user and contributor base; i.e. grow the
community.
 
  Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
 to
  be
  aware of?
 
  None
 
  How has the community developed since the last report?
 
  * 141 messages on dev@htrace
  * 42 issues resolved and 11 open
 
  How has the project developed since the last report?
 
  * This is our first report.
  * We are fully moved over to Apache Infrastructure now (thanks in
  particular to Jake Farrell for help here).
  * We have our first htrace website published.
  * Development of an easy to deploy htraced trace sink and
   visualization
 is
  moving along nicely.
  * An htrace receiver for Apache Flume was contributed.
  * We have put up 5 release candidates for our 1st podling release
   with
a
  6th on its way.
 
  Date of last release:
 
None as yet.
 
  When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
 
   None since initial setup.
 
  Signed-off-by:
 
[ ](htrace) Jake Farrell
[ ](htrace) Todd Lipcon
[ ](htrace) Lewis John Mcgibbney
[ ](htrace) Andrew Purtell
[ ](htrace) Billie Rinaldi
[ ](htrace) Michael Stack
 
  Shepherd/Mentor notes:
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:13 PM, John D. Ament 
  johndam...@apache.org