Re: [Bug 53219] mod_ssl should allow to disable ssl compression

2012-10-08 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Monday 08 October 2012, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
 On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Eric Covener wrote:
  Any opinions on the default change?  AIUI current maintenance of
  browsers have disabled TLS compression already, because they can
  be driven to generate arbitrary traffic that eventually reveals
  httpOnly session cookies.
 
 Just disable it completely -- adaptive compression of headers is
 inherently incompatible with the goals of TLS.

Is it? I think the main problem is the broken security model of web 
browsers. There are many scenarios where compression does not hurt, 
e.g. with non-browser clients that do not allow chosen plaintext 
attacks, or if authentication is done by client certificate and not by 
header.

Therefore, I would prefer leaving the option available. But defaulting 
to off makes sense.

Cheers,
Stefan


Fwd: [Bug 53219] mod_ssl should allow to disable ssl compression

2012-10-07 Thread Eric Covener
Any opinions on the default change?  AIUI current maintenance of
browsers have disabled TLS compression already, because they can be
driven to generate arbitrary traffic that eventually reveals httpOnly
session cookies.


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Subject: [Bug 53219] mod_ssl should allow to disable ssl compression
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https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53219

--- Comment #10 from Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net ---
Hi.

It's good to see this backported...

However,... I'm a bit concerned...

As far as I understood,... _ALL_ versions of SSL/TLS are vulnerable to the
CRIME attack, right?

So why is compression not forcefully disabled? Not with respect to speed (as
originally intended by Björn) but to security.

If newer versions of TLS should fix the attack one could allow them to
select whether compression should be used or not.

Ideas?

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Re: [Bug 53219] mod_ssl should allow to disable ssl compression

2012-10-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Eric Covener wrote:

 Any opinions on the default change?  AIUI current maintenance of
 browsers have disabled TLS compression already, because they can be
 driven to generate arbitrary traffic that eventually reveals httpOnly
 session cookies.

Just disable it completely -- adaptive compression of headers is
inherently incompatible with the goals of TLS.

Roy