Re: [PROPOSAL] Move AUTH_LDAP to /experimental (was: authentication rewrite)

2002-08-30 Thread Jeff Trawick

Brad Nicholes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Now that 2.0.40 has been released and we are in development of .41
 and the fact that there has been a proposal for re-architecting the AUTH
 modules, I would like to propose that we move AUTH_LDAP out of it's own
 project and into experimental.  This will enable AUTH_LDAP to get more
 exposure as an external module, allow it to be included in future
 releases of Apache 2 for testing and stabilization, and make sure that
 it is not overlooked in future development.  LDAP is an important
 authentication method and should be supported in Apache.

+1

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Move AUTH_LDAP to /experimental (was: authentication rewrite)

2002-08-28 Thread Peter Van Biesen

I'd like to second that !

Peter.

Brad Nicholes wrote:
 
Now that 2.0.40 has been released and we are in development of .41
 and the fact that there has been a proposal for re-architecting the AUTH
 modules, I would like to propose that we move AUTH_LDAP out of it's own
 project and into experimental.  This will enable AUTH_LDAP to get more
 exposure as an external module, allow it to be included in future
 releases of Apache 2 for testing and stabilization, and make sure that
 it is not overlooked in future development.  LDAP is an important
 authentication method and should be supported in Apache.
 
 Brad
 
 Brad Nicholes
 Senior Software Engineer
 Novell, Inc., the leading provider of Net business solutions
 http://www.novell.com
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:53:19 AM 
 Hi -
 
 Shouldn't a new thread be spawned for an(other) ldap vote (its deja vu
 all
 over again :)
 
 sterling
 
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 Subject: Re: authentication rewrite
 
 
 +1
 
 Brad Nicholes
 Senior Software Engineer
 Novell, Inc., the leading provider of Net business solutions
 http://www.novell.com
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:20:43 AM 
 Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
 
  Ideally, you could use the LDAP filters that most PAM
 implementations
  use, but definitely allow the user to tweak them.  I'd like to get
  mod_auth_ldap ported to this, and if we move towards a
 provider-based
  system, I think mod_auth_ldap should be moved back into the core.
  (Namely because that's the preferred auth for DAV ACL support as it
  is hierarchical.)
 
 I want to see auth_ldap moved into experimental so that it is
 included
 
 in any work done on overhauling the auth stuff.
 
 Currently the code is receiving minimal exposure where it is.
 
 Regards,
 Graham
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Move AUTH_LDAP to /experimental (was: authentication rewrite)

2002-08-27 Thread Justin Erenkrantz

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:27:16AM -0600, Brad Nicholes wrote:
 modules, I would like to propose that we move AUTH_LDAP out of it's own
 project and into experimental.  This will enable AUTH_LDAP to get more

+1.  

Especially if the auth rewrite occurs, auth_ldap would become much
simpler.  -- justin



Re: [PROPOSAL] Move AUTH_LDAP to /experimental (was: authentication rewrite)

2002-08-27 Thread Aaron Bannert

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:44:35PM -0400, Joshua Slive wrote:
 I would be happier with a good system for integrating non-core modules, 
 such as an apache-rollup or a CPAN/freebsd ports like system. BUT, since 
 nobody seems willing to step-up and create such a system, I think it 
 would be a mistake to prevent good modules from getting the wider 
 distribution that they can expect from the core distribution.  Freezing 
 apache features to wait for some mythical system to appear would be a 
 mistake.

I would *love* to see this happen. I think a decoupling of modules
from the core httpd server would give us many benefits:

- cleaner interface for module integration
- independent lifecycles allow for independent and quicker development
- well-defined module interfaces allow for easier 3rd party integration
- ...


How do we start? I think the first step would be to come up with a
unified way to build 3rd party modules, as either a static module or a
DSO, and allowing for complex multi-file/multi-directory/multi-library
build dependencies.

-aaron



Re: [PROPOSAL] Move AUTH_LDAP to /experimental (was: authentication rewrite)

2002-08-27 Thread Ian Holsman

Graham Leggett wrote:
 Aaron Bannert wrote:
 
 I would *love* to see this happen. I think a decoupling of modules
 from the core httpd server would give us many benefits:
 
 
 True, but keeping functionality out of the server until such a system 
 exists is a mistake. Any CPAN style system should not hold up 
 development of the server.
 
agreed.
and when such a system exists, the modules could be moved over to it.
in the mean time they should go into the core

 Regards,
 Graham