Re: yet another autoconf torture

2004-12-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Joe Orton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 It is possible to support cross compilation with autoconf-based build
 systems.  configure supports this by use of cache variables; standard
 practice is to build up a config.site file with the correct test
 results for the target (e.g. ac_cv_func_setpgrp_void=yes), and set
 CONFIG_SITE to point at that file.  More work may be needed on the
 configure scripts to use AC_CACHE_CHECK appropriately.
Ah, do I have to patch anything for that or does it run out of the box ?

I had exactly the same problem with openssl. I fixed it by simply 
pulling off several checks (ie the file-exist-checks simply refused 
to work in crosscompile mode) and recreated configure. The tests I 
removed were meaningless for my platforms nevertheless. 

But the problem is another point: autoconf is not really made for 
crosscompiling. the support for different tool commands and the so called
crosscompile support (simply disable a bunch of checks or refuse to
work when it doesnt know what to do now) is just an ugly hack, neither
are sysroot builds supported in any way.

To get a really reliable solution for that, we need an new, well designed
universal toolchain frontend. this of course could also be shipped with
apache for a while (- vendor branch ... grrmpf).

 But the Makefiles still won't work since they have no separate of host
 and target $CC etc, yet need to build and run executables on the host
 system in several places.  So there is definitely more work needed
 there.
Right. 
I'm passing my crosstoolchain commands (CC,LD, ...). But this only
works as long as the package doesnt bring its own host-side-tools. 

We need at least an *clear* distinction between host und and target
compilation.

These are all questions for the unitool, which I already announced
here. For those who dont remember:

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Re: yet another autoconf torture

2004-12-13 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 06:39:25AM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 
 hi folks,
 
 
 when trying to crosscompile apache, it breaks in libapr configure:
 
  cannot check setpgrp when crosscompiling
 
 So crosscompiling seems to be impossible. I've tested it on 
 2.0.49 up to 2.0.52. 

It is possible to support cross compilation with autoconf-based build
systems.  configure supports this by use of cache variables; standard
practice is to build up a config.site file with the correct test
results for the target (e.g. ac_cv_func_setpgrp_void=yes), and set
CONFIG_SITE to point at that file.  More work may be needed on the
configure scripts to use AC_CACHE_CHECK appropriately.

But the Makefiles still won't work since they have no separate of host
and target $CC etc, yet need to build and run executables on the host
system in several places.  So there is definitely more work needed
there.

Regards,

joe


Re: yet another autoconf torture

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 So crosscompiling seems to be impossible. I've tested it on 
 2.0.49 up to 2.0.52. 
 
 uhm. cross compiling from what to what?
i686-pc-gnu-linux - i686-pc-gnu-linux, but with sysroot and
different libc versions.


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Re: yet another autoconf torture

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Querna
Enrico Weigelt wrote:
hi folks,
when trying to crosscompile apache, it breaks in libapr configure:

cannot check setpgrp when crosscompiling

So crosscompiling seems to be impossible. I've tested it on 
2.0.49 up to 2.0.52. 
uhm. cross compiling from what to what?