Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Marco Neumann
looks good

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 9:28 PM Andy Seaborne  wrote:

>
>
> On 06/12/2019 13:38, Marco Neumann wrote:
> > Thanks Adam,
> >
> > the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
> > already edited is here
> >
> >
> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
> >
> >
> > the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently
> to
> > spatial search links to a 404
>
> It is in templates/skeleton.html and I've changed Spatial Search to
> GeoSPARQL
>
> FYI: I've found in the past that Apache site is quite aggressive on
> caching so you may need to do a  hard refresh
>
>  Andy
>
-- 


---
Marco Neumann
KONA


Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Andy Seaborne




On 06/12/2019 13:38, Marco Neumann wrote:

Thanks Adam,

the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
already edited is here

https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext


the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently to
spatial search links to a 404


It is in templates/skeleton.html and I've changed Spatial Search to 
GeoSPARQL


FYI: I've found in the past that Apache site is quite aggressive on 
caching so you may need to do a  hard refresh


Andy


Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Marco Neumann
thank you Adam, this will do for now

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:05 PM ajs6f  wrote:

> Maybe the confusion here is between "committee" (as in PMC) and
> "committers", who are so-called because they have commit rights to the code
> (normally earned by being personally committed to the project). Here is
> some documentation about what an Apache PMC is and does as opposed to
> committer-ship:
>
> https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles
>
> and all of https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html is pretty
> useful.
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs
>
> is about PMCs specifically and:
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs#merit
>
> is particularly relevant.
>
> ajs6f
>
> > On Dec 6, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Marco Neumann 
> wrote:
> >
> > OK I see, I have inferred that from the Apache site [1] where it says
> that
> > the Apache Jena Committee is also called PMC .
> >
> > I have seen a number of changes over the years, even predating the move
> to
> > Apache, so yes migrating to a new system might be an option. possibly a
> > wiki type system. But it's not urgent from my point of view at the
> moment.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation attempt.
> >
> > [1] https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?jena
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 4:31 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >
> >> No, I didn't mention the PMC at all.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we're getting confused here because like other Apache projects,
> >> Jena has both a roster of committers, who have privileges to work on the
> >> codebase and docbase, but also a Project Management Committee or PMC (of
> >> which Andy is now the chair), which is ultimately responsible for the
> >> conduct of the Jena project to the Apache Foundation. The PMC, amongst a
> >> few other duties, elects new committers. Like many Apache projects,
> those
> >> lists for Jena are substantially the same (with a few small
> differences),
> >> but the only one that is relevant here is the committer roster.
> >>
> >> As for other kinds of roles, I'm not sure how much flexibility is
> >> available from the Apache bylaws, but I know of no other project that
> >> features other "official" roles-- that is, roles other than committer or
> >> PMC member  that would be recognized by the Foundation. We've discussed
> >> this question before and come to the conclusion that the Jena project is
> >> small enough that we don't need any new roles-- that if someone is
> making
> >> contributions that should be recognized with a greater level of
> >> responsibility (whether or not those contributions are in the form of
> code
> >> or something else like work answering questions on the mailing lists,
> >> etc.), we can simply make them a committer immediately.
> >>
> >> Does that help explain?
> >>
> >> In any event, several threads over the past months (years now, I think!)
> >> have arisen on this list to the effect that our documentation in Apache
> >> INFRA's old-line CMS isn't easy to maintain or publish, so that
> >> alternatives are attractive. I suspect that real improvement for our
> >> documentation process would be better achieved by migrating to a new
> system.
> >>
> >> ajs6f
> >>
> >>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Marco Neumann 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> in short yes, I would think for documentation purposes and the like a
> >> more
> >>> relaxed form of participation should be available. So you say currently
> >>> only members with role PMC can commit edits to the documentation on the
> >>> apache cms? Can roles be dynamically generated here or does each Apache
> >>> project has only one type of role membership on the Apache cms?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:58 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >>>
>  It is not tied into that build process, except for the Javadocs, since
>  Javadocs are extracted from the codebase. There is no need to build
> the
>  codebase to publish the site as a whole.
> 
>  As for assigning an account to individual users, I'm not quite sure
> what
>  that would do. Currently accounts are for committers because only
>  committers can make changes to the documentation. Are you suggesting
> >> that
>  we allow any user with an account to make changes there and allow any
> >> Jena
>  user who asks to have an account? Or something else?
> 
>  ajs6f
> 
> > On Dec 6, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Marco Neumann 
>  wrote:
> >
> > assign user name and password to individual users? I'd say it doesn't
>  need
> > to be tied into the build process of the Apache Jena project IIUC
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >
> >> Did you have suggestions for a different process?
> >>
> >> ajs6f
> >>
> >>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marco Neumann  >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Adam,
> >>>
> >>> the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I
> have
> >>> already edited is here
> >>>

Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread ajs6f
Maybe the confusion here is between "committee" (as in PMC) and "committers", 
who are so-called because they have commit rights to the code (normally earned 
by being personally committed to the project). Here is some documentation about 
what an Apache PMC is and does as opposed to committer-ship:

https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles

and all of https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html is pretty useful.

https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs

is about PMCs specifically and:

https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs#merit

is particularly relevant. 

ajs6f

> On Dec 6, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Marco Neumann  wrote:
> 
> OK I see, I have inferred that from the Apache site [1] where it says that
> the Apache Jena Committee is also called PMC .
> 
> I have seen a number of changes over the years, even predating the move to
> Apache, so yes migrating to a new system might be an option. possibly a
> wiki type system. But it's not urgent from my point of view at the moment.
> 
> Thanks for the explanation attempt.
> 
> [1] https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?jena
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 4:31 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> 
>> No, I didn't mention the PMC at all.
>> 
>> Perhaps we're getting confused here because like other Apache projects,
>> Jena has both a roster of committers, who have privileges to work on the
>> codebase and docbase, but also a Project Management Committee or PMC (of
>> which Andy is now the chair), which is ultimately responsible for the
>> conduct of the Jena project to the Apache Foundation. The PMC, amongst a
>> few other duties, elects new committers. Like many Apache projects, those
>> lists for Jena are substantially the same (with a few small differences),
>> but the only one that is relevant here is the committer roster.
>> 
>> As for other kinds of roles, I'm not sure how much flexibility is
>> available from the Apache bylaws, but I know of no other project that
>> features other "official" roles-- that is, roles other than committer or
>> PMC member  that would be recognized by the Foundation. We've discussed
>> this question before and come to the conclusion that the Jena project is
>> small enough that we don't need any new roles-- that if someone is making
>> contributions that should be recognized with a greater level of
>> responsibility (whether or not those contributions are in the form of code
>> or something else like work answering questions on the mailing lists,
>> etc.), we can simply make them a committer immediately.
>> 
>> Does that help explain?
>> 
>> In any event, several threads over the past months (years now, I think!)
>> have arisen on this list to the effect that our documentation in Apache
>> INFRA's old-line CMS isn't easy to maintain or publish, so that
>> alternatives are attractive. I suspect that real improvement for our
>> documentation process would be better achieved by migrating to a new system.
>> 
>> ajs6f
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Marco Neumann 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> in short yes, I would think for documentation purposes and the like a
>> more
>>> relaxed form of participation should be available. So you say currently
>>> only members with role PMC can commit edits to the documentation on the
>>> apache cms? Can roles be dynamically generated here or does each Apache
>>> project has only one type of role membership on the Apache cms?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:58 PM ajs6f  wrote:
>>> 
 It is not tied into that build process, except for the Javadocs, since
 Javadocs are extracted from the codebase. There is no need to build the
 codebase to publish the site as a whole.
 
 As for assigning an account to individual users, I'm not quite sure what
 that would do. Currently accounts are for committers because only
 committers can make changes to the documentation. Are you suggesting
>> that
 we allow any user with an account to make changes there and allow any
>> Jena
 user who asks to have an account? Or something else?
 
 ajs6f
 
> On Dec 6, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Marco Neumann 
 wrote:
> 
> assign user name and password to individual users? I'd say it doesn't
 need
> to be tied into the build process of the Apache Jena project IIUC
> 
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> 
>> Did you have suggestions for a different process?
>> 
>> ajs6f
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marco Neumann 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Adam,
>>> 
>>> the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
>>> already edited is here
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
 
>> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
>>> 
>>> 
>>> the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since
>> currently
>> to
>>> spatial search links to a 404
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>

Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Marco Neumann
OK I see, I have inferred that from the Apache site [1] where it says that
the Apache Jena Committee is also called PMC .

I have seen a number of changes over the years, even predating the move to
Apache, so yes migrating to a new system might be an option. possibly a
wiki type system. But it's not urgent from my point of view at the moment.

Thanks for the explanation attempt.

[1] https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?jena






On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 4:31 PM ajs6f  wrote:

> No, I didn't mention the PMC at all.
>
> Perhaps we're getting confused here because like other Apache projects,
> Jena has both a roster of committers, who have privileges to work on the
> codebase and docbase, but also a Project Management Committee or PMC (of
> which Andy is now the chair), which is ultimately responsible for the
> conduct of the Jena project to the Apache Foundation. The PMC, amongst a
> few other duties, elects new committers. Like many Apache projects, those
> lists for Jena are substantially the same (with a few small differences),
> but the only one that is relevant here is the committer roster.
>
> As for other kinds of roles, I'm not sure how much flexibility is
> available from the Apache bylaws, but I know of no other project that
> features other "official" roles-- that is, roles other than committer or
> PMC member  that would be recognized by the Foundation. We've discussed
> this question before and come to the conclusion that the Jena project is
> small enough that we don't need any new roles-- that if someone is making
> contributions that should be recognized with a greater level of
> responsibility (whether or not those contributions are in the form of code
> or something else like work answering questions on the mailing lists,
> etc.), we can simply make them a committer immediately.
>
> Does that help explain?
>
> In any event, several threads over the past months (years now, I think!)
> have arisen on this list to the effect that our documentation in Apache
> INFRA's old-line CMS isn't easy to maintain or publish, so that
> alternatives are attractive. I suspect that real improvement for our
> documentation process would be better achieved by migrating to a new system.
>
> ajs6f
>
> > On Dec 6, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Marco Neumann 
> wrote:
> >
> > in short yes, I would think for documentation purposes and the like a
> more
> > relaxed form of participation should be available. So you say currently
> > only members with role PMC can commit edits to the documentation on the
> > apache cms? Can roles be dynamically generated here or does each Apache
> > project has only one type of role membership on the Apache cms?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:58 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >
> >> It is not tied into that build process, except for the Javadocs, since
> >> Javadocs are extracted from the codebase. There is no need to build the
> >> codebase to publish the site as a whole.
> >>
> >> As for assigning an account to individual users, I'm not quite sure what
> >> that would do. Currently accounts are for committers because only
> >> committers can make changes to the documentation. Are you suggesting
> that
> >> we allow any user with an account to make changes there and allow any
> Jena
> >> user who asks to have an account? Or something else?
> >>
> >> ajs6f
> >>
> >>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Marco Neumann 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> assign user name and password to individual users? I'd say it doesn't
> >> need
> >>> to be tied into the build process of the Apache Jena project IIUC
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >>>
>  Did you have suggestions for a different process?
> 
>  ajs6f
> 
> > On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marco Neumann 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Adam,
> >
> > the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
> > already edited is here
> >
> >
> 
> >>
> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
> >
> >
> > the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since
> currently
>  to
> > spatial search links to a 404
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to
> >> the
> >> documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always
>  publish
> >> for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.
> >>
> >> I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
> >> normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS
>  handy? I
> >> am happy to review and commit it.
> >>
> >> ajs6f
> >>
> >>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann  >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have made some changes to the documentation on the
> jena.apache.org
> >> site
> >>> with the anonymous use

Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread ajs6f
No, I didn't mention the PMC at all.

Perhaps we're getting confused here because like other Apache projects, Jena 
has both a roster of committers, who have privileges to work on the codebase 
and docbase, but also a Project Management Committee or PMC (of which Andy is 
now the chair), which is ultimately responsible for the conduct of the Jena 
project to the Apache Foundation. The PMC, amongst a few other duties, elects 
new committers. Like many Apache projects, those lists for Jena are 
substantially the same (with a few small differences), but the only one that is 
relevant here is the committer roster.

As for other kinds of roles, I'm not sure how much flexibility is available 
from the Apache bylaws, but I know of no other project that features other 
"official" roles-- that is, roles other than committer or PMC member  that 
would be recognized by the Foundation. We've discussed this question before and 
come to the conclusion that the Jena project is small enough that we don't need 
any new roles-- that if someone is making contributions that should be 
recognized with a greater level of responsibility (whether or not those 
contributions are in the form of code or something else like work answering 
questions on the mailing lists, etc.), we can simply make them a committer 
immediately.

Does that help explain?

In any event, several threads over the past months (years now, I think!) have 
arisen on this list to the effect that our documentation in Apache INFRA's 
old-line CMS isn't easy to maintain or publish, so that alternatives are 
attractive. I suspect that real improvement for our documentation process would 
be better achieved by migrating to a new system.

ajs6f

> On Dec 6, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Marco Neumann  wrote:
> 
> in short yes, I would think for documentation purposes and the like a more
> relaxed form of participation should be available. So you say currently
> only members with role PMC can commit edits to the documentation on the
> apache cms? Can roles be dynamically generated here or does each Apache
> project has only one type of role membership on the Apache cms?
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:58 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> 
>> It is not tied into that build process, except for the Javadocs, since
>> Javadocs are extracted from the codebase. There is no need to build the
>> codebase to publish the site as a whole.
>> 
>> As for assigning an account to individual users, I'm not quite sure what
>> that would do. Currently accounts are for committers because only
>> committers can make changes to the documentation. Are you suggesting that
>> we allow any user with an account to make changes there and allow any Jena
>> user who asks to have an account? Or something else?
>> 
>> ajs6f
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Marco Neumann 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> assign user name and password to individual users? I'd say it doesn't
>> need
>>> to be tied into the build process of the Apache Jena project IIUC
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM ajs6f  wrote:
>>> 
 Did you have suggestions for a different process?
 
 ajs6f
 
> On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marco Neumann 
 wrote:
> 
> Thanks Adam,
> 
> the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
> already edited is here
> 
> 
 
>> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
> 
> 
> the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently
 to
> spatial search links to a 404
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to
>> the
>> documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always
 publish
>> for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.
>> 
>> I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
>> normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS
 handy? I
>> am happy to review and commit it.
>> 
>> ajs6f
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org
>> site
>>> with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in
>> the
>>> edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does
>> this
>>> change wait for some admin approval?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Marco Neumann
>>> KONA
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> ---
> Marco Neumann
> KONA
 
 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Marco Neumann
>>> KONA
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> ---
> Marco Neumann
> KONA



Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Marco Neumann
in short yes, I would think for documentation purposes and the like a more
relaxed form of participation should be available. So you say currently
only members with role PMC can commit edits to the documentation on the
apache cms? Can roles be dynamically generated here or does each Apache
project has only one type of role membership on the Apache cms?



On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:58 PM ajs6f  wrote:

> It is not tied into that build process, except for the Javadocs, since
> Javadocs are extracted from the codebase. There is no need to build the
> codebase to publish the site as a whole.
>
> As for assigning an account to individual users, I'm not quite sure what
> that would do. Currently accounts are for committers because only
> committers can make changes to the documentation. Are you suggesting that
> we allow any user with an account to make changes there and allow any Jena
> user who asks to have an account? Or something else?
>
> ajs6f
>
> > On Dec 6, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Marco Neumann 
> wrote:
> >
> > assign user name and password to individual users? I'd say it doesn't
> need
> > to be tied into the build process of the Apache Jena project IIUC
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >
> >> Did you have suggestions for a different process?
> >>
> >> ajs6f
> >>
> >>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marco Neumann 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Adam,
> >>>
> >>> the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
> >>> already edited is here
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently
> >> to
> >>> spatial search links to a 404
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >>>
>  Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to
> the
>  documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always
> >> publish
>  for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.
> 
>  I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
>  normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS
> >> handy? I
>  am happy to review and commit it.
> 
>  ajs6f
> 
> > On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann 
>  wrote:
> >
> > I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org
>  site
> > with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in
> the
> > edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does
> this
> > change wait for some admin approval?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Marco Neumann
> > KONA
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Marco Neumann
> >>> KONA
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Marco Neumann
> > KONA
>
>

-- 


---
Marco Neumann
KONA


Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread ajs6f
It is not tied into that build process, except for the Javadocs, since Javadocs 
are extracted from the codebase. There is no need to build the codebase to 
publish the site as a whole.

As for assigning an account to individual users, I'm not quite sure what that 
would do. Currently accounts are for committers because only committers can 
make changes to the documentation. Are you suggesting that we allow any user 
with an account to make changes there and allow any Jena user who asks to have 
an account? Or something else?

ajs6f

> On Dec 6, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Marco Neumann  wrote:
> 
> assign user name and password to individual users? I'd say it doesn't need
> to be tied into the build process of the Apache Jena project IIUC
> 
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> 
>> Did you have suggestions for a different process?
>> 
>> ajs6f
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marco Neumann 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Adam,
>>> 
>>> the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
>>> already edited is here
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
>>> 
>>> 
>>> the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently
>> to
>>> spatial search links to a 404
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to the
 documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always
>> publish
 for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.
 
 I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
 normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS
>> handy? I
 am happy to review and commit it.
 
 ajs6f
 
> On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann 
 wrote:
> 
> I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org
 site
> with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in the
> edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does this
> change wait for some admin approval?
> 
> --
> 
> 
> ---
> Marco Neumann
> KONA
 
 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Marco Neumann
>>> KONA
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> ---
> Marco Neumann
> KONA



Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Marco Neumann
if use anonymous as username you should be able to see the changed
structure. basically if you currently access the public site and you select
Spatial Search in the Javadoc drop-down it will lead you to a Not Found
404. I suggest to replace the item with a link to the GeoSPARQL
documentation as outlined in the change.

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:40 PM Andy Seaborne  wrote:

> I can't access the link - that can be because it wasn't committed, or it
> thinks I'm editing something.
>
> Marco - could you put it on a gist and email the link?
>
> because it is under "javadoc/" it needs special handling as a script
> resets tha whole of "javadoc/" as part of the release process.
>
>  Andy
>
> On 06/12/2019 13:38, Marco Neumann wrote:
> > Thanks Adam,
> >
> > the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
> > already edited is here
> >
> >
> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
> >
> >
> > the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently
> to
> > spatial search links to a 404
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to the
> >> documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always
> publish
> >> for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.
> >>
> >> I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
> >> normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS
> handy? I
> >> am happy to review and commit it.
> >>
> >> ajs6f
> >>
> >>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org
> >> site
> >>> with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in the
> >>> edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does this
> >>> change wait for some admin approval?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Marco Neumann
> >>> KONA
> >>
> >>
> >
>


-- 


---
Marco Neumann
KONA


Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Marco Neumann
assign user name and password to individual users? I'd say it doesn't need
to be tied into the build process of the Apache Jena project IIUC

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM ajs6f  wrote:

> Did you have suggestions for a different process?
>
> ajs6f
>
> > On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marco Neumann 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Adam,
> >
> > the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
> > already edited is here
> >
> >
> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
> >
> >
> > the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently
> to
> > spatial search links to a 404
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to the
> >> documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always
> publish
> >> for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.
> >>
> >> I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
> >> normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS
> handy? I
> >> am happy to review and commit it.
> >>
> >> ajs6f
> >>
> >>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org
> >> site
> >>> with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in the
> >>> edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does this
> >>> change wait for some admin approval?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Marco Neumann
> >>> KONA
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Marco Neumann
> > KONA
>
>

-- 


---
Marco Neumann
KONA


Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread ajs6f
Did you have suggestions for a different process?

ajs6f

> On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marco Neumann  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Adam,
> 
> the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
> already edited is here
> 
> https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext
> 
> 
> the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently to
> spatial search links to a 404
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to the
>> documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always publish
>> for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.
>> 
>> I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
>> normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS handy? I
>> am happy to review and commit it.
>> 
>> ajs6f
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org
>> site
>>> with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in the
>>> edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does this
>>> change wait for some admin approval?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Marco Neumann
>>> KONA
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> ---
> Marco Neumann
> KONA



Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Andy Seaborne
I can't access the link - that can be because it wasn't committed, or it 
thinks I'm editing something.


Marco - could you put it on a gist and email the link?

because it is under "javadoc/" it needs special handling as a script 
resets tha whole of "javadoc/" as part of the release process.


Andy

On 06/12/2019 13:38, Marco Neumann wrote:

Thanks Adam,

the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
already edited is here

https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext


the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently to
spatial search links to a 404



On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:


Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to the
documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always publish
for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.

I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS handy? I
am happy to review and commit it.

ajs6f


On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann 

wrote:


I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org

site

with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in the
edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does this
change wait for some admin approval?

--


---
Marco Neumann
KONA







Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-06 Thread Marco Neumann
Thanks Adam,

the process sounds a bit cumbersome, but in any event the page I have
already edited is here

https://cms.apache.org/jena/wc/edit/anonymous-n3xU7Y/trunk/content/documentation/javadoc/index.mdtext


the idea was to update the bread crumb navigation items since currently to
spatial search links to a 404



On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:49 PM ajs6f  wrote:

> Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to the
> documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always publish
> for a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.
>
> I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it
> normally would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS handy? I
> am happy to review and commit it.
>
> ajs6f
>
> > On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org
> site
> > with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in the
> > edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does this
> > change wait for some admin approval?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Marco Neumann
> > KONA
>
>

-- 


---
Marco Neumann
KONA


Re: changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-05 Thread ajs6f
Yes, a committer needs to push the change through to be committed to the 
documentation base, and then the site must be published. We always publish for 
a release, but we can publish at other times, too, if needed.

I do not recall seeing the actual change come across dev@ (which it normally 
would). Do you have a link to the patch in the Apache CMS handy? I am happy to 
review and commit it.

ajs6f

> On Dec 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Marco Neumann  wrote:
> 
> I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org site
> with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in the
> edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does this
> change wait for some admin approval?
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> ---
> Marco Neumann
> KONA



changes to Apache Jena site documentation

2019-12-04 Thread Marco Neumann
I have made some changes to the documentation on the jena.apache.org site
with the anonymous username and can indeed see these changes now in the
edit view but not in the live view. Is this correct behavior, does this
change wait for some admin approval?

-- 


---
Marco Neumann
KONA