Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-587 Suppress detailed responses for handled exceptions in security-sensitive environments
Hi Chris, I agree that Connect shouldn't obtusely refuse operator-helpful information on known, handled exceptions. The situation you describe here feels like a great example. In cases like this, I would suggest printing the message, and in the field that would contain the stack trace, replacing that message with the pre-defined string that says Connect is running in a mode that doesn't print stack traces. This way, the schema is not changed. In places where the message would include the stack trace along with information about the fault, omitting the stack trace or replacing it with the pre-defined string would work just fine for me. Thanks! Connor On 5/13/20, 12:30 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: Hi Connor, I think this is really close but have one more thought. Uncaught exceptions in the REST API are different from exceptions that come about when tasks or connectors fail, and can be used for different purposes. Stack traces in 500 errors are probably only useful for the administrator of the Connect cluster. However, if a user has tried to create a connector and sees that it or one of its tasks has failed, a brief message about the cause of failure might actually be pretty helpful, and if they can't get any information on why the connector or task failed, then they're essentially at the mercy of the Connect cluster administrator for figuring out what caused the failure. Would it be alright to include the exception message, but not the entire stack trace, in the response for requests to view the status of a connector or task? Cheers, Chris On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 12:07 PM Connor Penhale wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Apologies for the name confusion! I've been working with the my customer > sponsor over the last few weeks, and we finally have an answer regarding > "only exceptions or all responses." This organization is really interested > in removing stack traces from all responses, which will expand the scope of > this KIP a bit. I'm going to update the wiki entry, and then would it be > reasonable to call for a vote? > > Thanks! > Connor > > On 4/17/20, 3:53 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: > > Hi Connor, > > That's great, but I think you may have mistaken Colin for me :) > > One more thing that should be addressed--the "public interfaces" > section > isn't just for Java interfaces, it's for any changes to any public > part of > Kafka that users and external developers interact with. As far as > Connect > is concerned, this includes (but is not limited to) the REST API and > worker > configuration properties, so it might be worth briefly summarizing the > scope of your proposed changes in that section (something like "We > plan on > adding a new worker config named that will affect the REST API > under > ". > > Cheers, > > Chris > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 1:00 PM Connor Penhale > wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > > > I can ask the customer if they can disclose any additional > information. I > > provided the information around "PCI-DSS" to give the community a > flavor of > > the type of environment the customer was operating in. The current > mode is > > /not/ insecure, I would agree with this. I would be willing to agree > that > > my customer has particular security audit requirements that go above > and > > beyond what most environments would consider reasonable. Are you > > comfortable with that language? > > > > " enable.rest.response.stack.traces" works great for me! > > > > I created a new class in the example PR because I wanted the highest > > chance of not gunking up the works by stepping on toes in an > important > > class. I figured I'd be reducing risk by creating an alternative > > implementing class. In retrospect, and now that I'm getting a > first-hand > > look at Kafka's community process, that is probably unnecessary. > > Additionally, I would agree with your statement that we should > modify the > > existing ExceptionMapper to avoid behavior divergence in subsequent > > releases and ensure this feature's particular scope is easy to > maintain. > > > > Thanks! > > C
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-587 Suppress detailed responses for handled exceptions in security-sensitive environments
Hi Chris, Apologies for the name confusion! I've been working with the my customer sponsor over the last few weeks, and we finally have an answer regarding "only exceptions or all responses." This organization is really interested in removing stack traces from all responses, which will expand the scope of this KIP a bit. I'm going to update the wiki entry, and then would it be reasonable to call for a vote? Thanks! Connor On 4/17/20, 3:53 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: Hi Connor, That's great, but I think you may have mistaken Colin for me :) One more thing that should be addressed--the "public interfaces" section isn't just for Java interfaces, it's for any changes to any public part of Kafka that users and external developers interact with. As far as Connect is concerned, this includes (but is not limited to) the REST API and worker configuration properties, so it might be worth briefly summarizing the scope of your proposed changes in that section (something like "We plan on adding a new worker config named that will affect the REST API under ". Cheers, Chris On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 1:00 PM Connor Penhale wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I can ask the customer if they can disclose any additional information. I > provided the information around "PCI-DSS" to give the community a flavor of > the type of environment the customer was operating in. The current mode is > /not/ insecure, I would agree with this. I would be willing to agree that > my customer has particular security audit requirements that go above and > beyond what most environments would consider reasonable. Are you > comfortable with that language? > > " enable.rest.response.stack.traces" works great for me! > > I created a new class in the example PR because I wanted the highest > chance of not gunking up the works by stepping on toes in an important > class. I figured I'd be reducing risk by creating an alternative > implementing class. In retrospect, and now that I'm getting a first-hand > look at Kafka's community process, that is probably unnecessary. > Additionally, I would agree with your statement that we should modify the > existing ExceptionMapper to avoid behavior divergence in subsequent > releases and ensure this feature's particular scope is easy to maintain. > > Thanks! > Connor > > On 4/15/20, 1:17 PM, "Colin McCabe" wrote: > > Hi Connor, > > I still would like to hear more about whether this feature is required > for PCI-DSS or any other security certification. Nobody I talked to seemed > to think that it was-- if there are certifications that would require this, > it would be nice to know. However, I don't object to implementing this as > long as we don't imply that the current mode is insecure. > > What do you think about using "enable.rest.response.stack.traces" as > the config name? It seems like that makes it clearer that it's a boolean > value. > > It's not really necessary to describe the internal implementation in > the KIP, but since you mentioned it, it's probably worth considering using > the current ExceptionMapper class with a different configuration rather > than creating a new one. > > best, > Colin > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, at 09:04, Connor Penhale wrote: > > Hi Chris! > > > > RE: SSL, indeed, the issue is not that the information is not > > encrypted, but that there is no authorization layer. > > > > I'll be sure to edit the KIP as we continue discussion! > > > > RE: the 200 response you highlighted, great catch! I'll work with my > > customer and get back to you on their audit team's intention! I'm > > fairly certain I know the answer, but I need to be sure before I > speak > > for them. > > > > Thanks! > > Connor > > > > On 4/8/20, 11:27 PM, "Christopher Egerton" > wrote: > > > > Hi Connor, > > > > Just a few more remarks! > > > > I noticed that you said "Kafka Connect was passing these > exceptions without > > authentication." For what it's worth, the Connect REST API can > be secured > > with TLS out-of
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-587 Suppress detailed responses for handled exceptions in security-sensitive environments
Hi Chris, I can ask the customer if they can disclose any additional information. I provided the information around "PCI-DSS" to give the community a flavor of the type of environment the customer was operating in. The current mode is /not/ insecure, I would agree with this. I would be willing to agree that my customer has particular security audit requirements that go above and beyond what most environments would consider reasonable. Are you comfortable with that language? " enable.rest.response.stack.traces" works great for me! I created a new class in the example PR because I wanted the highest chance of not gunking up the works by stepping on toes in an important class. I figured I'd be reducing risk by creating an alternative implementing class. In retrospect, and now that I'm getting a first-hand look at Kafka's community process, that is probably unnecessary. Additionally, I would agree with your statement that we should modify the existing ExceptionMapper to avoid behavior divergence in subsequent releases and ensure this feature's particular scope is easy to maintain. Thanks! Connor On 4/15/20, 1:17 PM, "Colin McCabe" wrote: Hi Connor, I still would like to hear more about whether this feature is required for PCI-DSS or any other security certification. Nobody I talked to seemed to think that it was-- if there are certifications that would require this, it would be nice to know. However, I don't object to implementing this as long as we don't imply that the current mode is insecure. What do you think about using "enable.rest.response.stack.traces" as the config name? It seems like that makes it clearer that it's a boolean value. It's not really necessary to describe the internal implementation in the KIP, but since you mentioned it, it's probably worth considering using the current ExceptionMapper class with a different configuration rather than creating a new one. best, Colin On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, at 09:04, Connor Penhale wrote: > Hi Chris! > > RE: SSL, indeed, the issue is not that the information is not > encrypted, but that there is no authorization layer. > > I'll be sure to edit the KIP as we continue discussion! > > RE: the 200 response you highlighted, great catch! I'll work with my > customer and get back to you on their audit team's intention! I'm > fairly certain I know the answer, but I need to be sure before I speak > for them. > > Thanks! > Connor > > On 4/8/20, 11:27 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: > > Hi Connor, > > Just a few more remarks! > > I noticed that you said "Kafka Connect was passing these exceptions without > authentication." For what it's worth, the Connect REST API can be secured > with TLS out-of-the-box by configuring the worker with the various ssl.* > properties, but that doesn't provide any kind of authorization layer to > provide levels of security depending who the user is. Just pointing out in > case this helps with your use case. > > As far as editing the KIP based on discussion goes--it's not only > acceptable, it's expected :) Ideally, the KIP should be kept up-to-date to > the point where, were it to be accepted at any moment, it would accurately > reflect the changes that would then be made to Kafka. This can be relaxed > if there's rapid iteration or items that are still up for discussion, but > as soon as things settle down it should be updated. > > As far as item 4 goes, my question was about exceptions that aren't handled > by the ExceptionMapper, but which are returned as part of the response body > when querying the status of a connector or task that has failed by querying > the /connectors/{name}/status or /connectors/{name}/tasks/{taskId}/status > endpoints. Even if the request is successful and results in an HTTP 200 > response, the body might contain a stack trace if the connector or any of > its tasks have failed. > > For example, I ran an instance of the FileStreamSource connector named > "file-source" locally and instructed it to consume from a file that it > lacked permissions to read. When I queried the status of that connector by > issuing a request to /connectors/file-source/status, I got back the > following response: > > { > "name": "file-source", > "connector": { >
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-587 Suppress detailed responses for handled exceptions in security-sensitive environments
Hi Chris! RE: SSL, indeed, the issue is not that the information is not encrypted, but that there is no authorization layer. I'll be sure to edit the KIP as we continue discussion! RE: the 200 response you highlighted, great catch! I'll work with my customer and get back to you on their audit team's intention! I'm fairly certain I know the answer, but I need to be sure before I speak for them. Thanks! Connor On 4/8/20, 11:27 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: Hi Connor, Just a few more remarks! I noticed that you said "Kafka Connect was passing these exceptions without authentication." For what it's worth, the Connect REST API can be secured with TLS out-of-the-box by configuring the worker with the various ssl.* properties, but that doesn't provide any kind of authorization layer to provide levels of security depending who the user is. Just pointing out in case this helps with your use case. As far as editing the KIP based on discussion goes--it's not only acceptable, it's expected :) Ideally, the KIP should be kept up-to-date to the point where, were it to be accepted at any moment, it would accurately reflect the changes that would then be made to Kafka. This can be relaxed if there's rapid iteration or items that are still up for discussion, but as soon as things settle down it should be updated. As far as item 4 goes, my question was about exceptions that aren't handled by the ExceptionMapper, but which are returned as part of the response body when querying the status of a connector or task that has failed by querying the /connectors/{name}/status or /connectors/{name}/tasks/{taskId}/status endpoints. Even if the request is successful and results in an HTTP 200 response, the body might contain a stack trace if the connector or any of its tasks have failed. For example, I ran an instance of the FileStreamSource connector named "file-source" locally and instructed it to consume from a file that it lacked permissions to read. When I queried the status of that connector by issuing a request to /connectors/file-source/status, I got back the following response: { "name": "file-source", "connector": { "state": "RUNNING", "worker_id": "192.168.86.21:8083" }, "tasks": [ { "id": 0, "state": "FAILED", "worker_id": "192.168.86.21:8083", "trace": "org.apache.kafka.connect.errors.ConnectException: java.nio.file.AccessDeniedException: test.txt\n\tat org.apache.kafka.connect.file.FileStreamSourceTask.poll(FileStreamSourceTask.java:116)\n\tat org.apache.kafka.connect.runtime.WorkerSourceTask.poll(WorkerSourceTask.java:265)\n\tat org.apache.kafka.connect.runtime.WorkerSourceTask.execute(WorkerSourceTask.java:232)\n\tat org.apache.kafka.connect.runtime.WorkerTask.doRun(WorkerTask.java:177)\n\tat org.apache.kafka.connect.runtime.WorkerTask.run(WorkerTask.java:227)\n\tat java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:511)\n\tat java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:266)\n\tat java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1149)\n\tat java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:624)\n\tat java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)\nCaused by: java.nio.file.AccessDeniedException: test.txt\n\tat sun.nio.fs.UnixException.translateToIOException(UnixException.java:84)\n\tat sun.nio.fs.UnixException.rethrowAsIOException(UnixException.java:102)\n\tat sun.nio.fs.UnixException.rethrowAsIOException(UnixException.java:107)\n\tat sun.nio.fs.UnixFileSystemProvider.newByteChannel(UnixFileSystemProvider.java:214)\n\tat java.nio.file.Files.newByteChannel(Files.java:361)\n\tat java.nio.file.Files.newByteChannel(Files.java:407)\n\tat java.nio.file.spi.FileSystemProvider.newInputStream(FileSystemProvider.java:384)\n\tat java.nio.file.Files.newInputStream(Files.java:152)\n\tat org.apache.kafka.connect.file.FileStreamSourceTask.poll(FileStreamSourceTask.java:82)\n\t... 9 more\n" } ], "type": "source" } Note the "trace" field in the first element of the "tasks" field of the response: this was the stack trace for the exception that caused the task to fail during execution, which has nothing to do with the success or failure of the REST request I issued to the /connectors/file-source/status endpoint. I was wondering if you wanted to include these kinds of stack traces as part of the KIP, as opposed to uncaught exceptions that result in a
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-587 Suppress detailed responses for handled exceptions in security-sensitive environments
Hi All! Is there any additional feedback that the community can provide me on the KIP? Has anyone else run into requirements like this, or maybe my customer is the only one :)? If the scope looks good, is it time to call a vote? Or should I start porting my 2.0 code to 2.6 to show examples? Thanks! Connor On 4/6/20, 9:03 AM, "Connor Penhale" wrote: Hi Colin, We did not find a specific security vulnerability. Our customer had auditors in their environment, and they identified Kafka Connect as out of compliance with their particular standards, something that happens all the time for REST-based applications. What these security auditors expected Kafka Connect to be able to do was tune the response. As Kafka Connect could not provide this functionality, I'm proposing this KIP. Does that make sense? Should I still go through the process of a security disclosure? Our particular need was around suppressing exceptions in the "public" response, as Kafka Connect was passing these exceptions without authentication, they became a public endpoint upon which the auditors could fuzz, and show it being out of compliance. Keeping these exceptions in the logs, as proposed in the KIP, makes sense to me as an operator. I only mention PCI-DSS as this was the kind of environment my customer had that was making the request for being able to tune the response. Thanks! Connor --- Connor Penhale | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic (https://openlogic.com/) Perforce (https://www.perforce.com/) Support: +1 866.399.6736 On 4/3/20, 3:24 PM, "Colin McCabe" wrote: Also, if you do find a security issue, the process to follow is here: https://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html . best, Colin On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, at 14:20, Colin McCabe wrote: > Hi Connor, > > If we are putting security-sensitive information into REST responses, > that is a bug that needs to be fixed, not worked around with a > configuration option. Do you have an example of security-sensitive > information appearing in the exception text? Why do you feel that > PCI-DSS requires this change? > > By the way, the same concern applies to log messages. We do not log > sensitive information such as passwords to the log4j output. If you > know of that happening somewhere, please file a bug so it can be fixed. > > best, > Colin > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, at 12:56, Connor Penhale wrote: > > Hi Chris! > > > > Thanks for your feedback! I'll number my responses to your questions / thoughts. > > > > 1. Apologies on that lack of clarity! I settled on "Detailed exception > > information has been suppressed. Please see logs." > > (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355/files#diff-64c265986e7bbe40cdd79f831e961907R34). Should I update the KIP to reflect what I've already thought about? It's my first one, not sure what the process should be for editing. > > > > 2. I was unaware of the REST extensions! I'll see if I can implement > > the same behavior as a REST extension. I agree that the KIP still has > > merit, regardless of the feasibility of the extension, but in regards > > to the 5th thought, this might make that decision easier. > > > > 3. I agree with your suggestion here. Absolutely ready to take the > > community feedback on what makes sense here. > > > > 4. I should note that while I emphasized uncaught exceptions, I mean > > all exceptions handled by the ExceptionMapper, including > > ConnectRestExceptions. An example of this is here: > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355/files#diff-64c265986e7bbe40cdd79f831e961907R46 > > > > 5. I didn't know how specific I should get if I had already taken a > > stab at implementing! I'm happy to edit this in whatever way we want to > > go about it. > > > > Let me know if anyone has any other questions or feedback! > > > > > > Thanks! > > Connor > > > > On 4/2/20, 3:58 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: > > > > Hi Connor, > > > > Great stuff! I generally like being able to see the stack trace of an > > exception directly via the REST API but can definitely understand the > > security concerns here. I
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-587 Suppress detailed responses for handled exceptions in security-sensitive environments
Hi Colin, We did not find a specific security vulnerability. Our customer had auditors in their environment, and they identified Kafka Connect as out of compliance with their particular standards, something that happens all the time for REST-based applications. What these security auditors expected Kafka Connect to be able to do was tune the response. As Kafka Connect could not provide this functionality, I'm proposing this KIP. Does that make sense? Should I still go through the process of a security disclosure? Our particular need was around suppressing exceptions in the "public" response, as Kafka Connect was passing these exceptions without authentication, they became a public endpoint upon which the auditors could fuzz, and show it being out of compliance. Keeping these exceptions in the logs, as proposed in the KIP, makes sense to me as an operator. I only mention PCI-DSS as this was the kind of environment my customer had that was making the request for being able to tune the response. Thanks! Connor --- Connor Penhale | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic (https://openlogic.com/) Perforce (https://www.perforce.com/) Support: +1 866.399.6736 On 4/3/20, 3:24 PM, "Colin McCabe" wrote: Also, if you do find a security issue, the process to follow is here: https://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html . best, Colin On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, at 14:20, Colin McCabe wrote: > Hi Connor, > > If we are putting security-sensitive information into REST responses, > that is a bug that needs to be fixed, not worked around with a > configuration option. Do you have an example of security-sensitive > information appearing in the exception text? Why do you feel that > PCI-DSS requires this change? > > By the way, the same concern applies to log messages. We do not log > sensitive information such as passwords to the log4j output. If you > know of that happening somewhere, please file a bug so it can be fixed. > > best, > Colin > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, at 12:56, Connor Penhale wrote: > > Hi Chris! > > > > Thanks for your feedback! I'll number my responses to your questions / thoughts. > > > > 1. Apologies on that lack of clarity! I settled on "Detailed exception > > information has been suppressed. Please see logs." > > (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355/files#diff-64c265986e7bbe40cdd79f831e961907R34). Should I update the KIP to reflect what I've already thought about? It's my first one, not sure what the process should be for editing. > > > > 2. I was unaware of the REST extensions! I'll see if I can implement > > the same behavior as a REST extension. I agree that the KIP still has > > merit, regardless of the feasibility of the extension, but in regards > > to the 5th thought, this might make that decision easier. > > > > 3. I agree with your suggestion here. Absolutely ready to take the > > community feedback on what makes sense here. > > > > 4. I should note that while I emphasized uncaught exceptions, I mean > > all exceptions handled by the ExceptionMapper, including > > ConnectRestExceptions. An example of this is here: > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355/files#diff-64c265986e7bbe40cdd79f831e961907R46 > > > > 5. I didn't know how specific I should get if I had already taken a > > stab at implementing! I'm happy to edit this in whatever way we want to > > go about it. > > > > Let me know if anyone has any other questions or feedback! > > > > > > Thanks! > > Connor > > > > On 4/2/20, 3:58 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: > > > > Hi Connor, > > > > Great stuff! I generally like being able to see the stack trace of an > > exception directly via the REST API but can definitely understand the > > security concerns here. I've got a few questions/remarks about the KIP and > > would be interested in your thoughts: > > > > 1. The KIP mentions a SUPRESSED_EXCEPTION_MESSAGE, but doesn't actually > > outline what this message would actually be. It'd be great to see the > > actual message in the KIP since people may have thoughts on what it should > > be and want to comment on it as part of this discussion. > > > > 2. In the "Rejected Alternatives" section, an Nginx proxy is > > mentioned as > > one possible way to filter
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-587 Suppress detailed responses for handled exceptions in security-sensitive environments
Hi Chris! Thanks for your feedback! I'll number my responses to your questions / thoughts. 1. Apologies on that lack of clarity! I settled on "Detailed exception information has been suppressed. Please see logs." (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355/files#diff-64c265986e7bbe40cdd79f831e961907R34). Should I update the KIP to reflect what I've already thought about? It's my first one, not sure what the process should be for editing. 2. I was unaware of the REST extensions! I'll see if I can implement the same behavior as a REST extension. I agree that the KIP still has merit, regardless of the feasibility of the extension, but in regards to the 5th thought, this might make that decision easier. 3. I agree with your suggestion here. Absolutely ready to take the community feedback on what makes sense here. 4. I should note that while I emphasized uncaught exceptions, I mean all exceptions handled by the ExceptionMapper, including ConnectRestExceptions. An example of this is here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355/files#diff-64c265986e7bbe40cdd79f831e961907R46 5. I didn't know how specific I should get if I had already taken a stab at implementing! I'm happy to edit this in whatever way we want to go about it. Let me know if anyone has any other questions or feedback! Thanks! Connor On 4/2/20, 3:58 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: Hi Connor, Great stuff! I generally like being able to see the stack trace of an exception directly via the REST API but can definitely understand the security concerns here. I've got a few questions/remarks about the KIP and would be interested in your thoughts: 1. The KIP mentions a SUPRESSED_EXCEPTION_MESSAGE, but doesn't actually outline what this message would actually be. It'd be great to see the actual message in the KIP since people may have thoughts on what it should be and want to comment on it as part of this discussion. 2. In the "Rejected Alternatives" section, an Nginx proxy is mentioned as one possible way to filter out stack traces from the REST API. It seems like a Connect REST extension ( https://kafka.apache.org/24/javadoc/index.html?org/apache/kafka/connect/rest/ConnectRestExtension.html) would be a better alternative than an Nginx proxy; had you considered utilizing one? I still think this KIP is worthwhile and a REST extension shouldn't be necessary in order to lock down the REST API this way, but it might be worth calling out as an alternative and perhaps even a workaround in cases where users are stuck on a given version of Connect and can't upgrade to 2.6 (or whichever version this KIP lands on) any time soon. 3. The "error.rest.response.message.detail.enabled" property is a bit of a mouthful; it'd be great if we could come up with something more succinct. What do you think about something like "rest.response.stack.traces"? 4. The KIP is targeted at stack traces for uncaught exceptions, but it's also possible that stack traces get exposed in the REST API when querying the status of a connector or one of its tasks. Was this intentional? If so, it'd be great to call out why that kind of filtering is not required in the "Rejected Alternatives" section, and if not, it's probably not too late to consider modifying the KIP to cover those cases as well. 5. The KIP mentions creating a new, separate exception mapper class. This seems like more of an implementation detail and something that can be decided on during code review; unless it's critical to the functionality that the KIP aims to accomplish, I'd suggest leaving that part out since it shouldn't affect the impact on users of the Connect framework. Thanks for the KIP, looking forward to seeing this happen! Cheers, Chris On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:01 AM Connor Penhale wrote: > Hello All! > > I’ve created the following KIP: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-587:+Suppress+detailed+responses+for+handled+exceptions+in+security-sensitive+environments > > The PR that originated this discussion, is here: > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355 It is based on 2.0, but I > would be working on Kafka Connect in 2.6 to get this behavior changed to > the community’s preference. > > Looking forward to working with everyone! > > Thanks! > Connor > --- > Connor Penhale | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic (https://openlogic.com/) > Perforce (https://www.perforce.com/) > Support: +1 866.399.6736 > > > > > This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If > you a
[DISCUSS] KIP-587 Suppress detailed responses for handled exceptions in security-sensitive environments
Hello All! I’ve created the following KIP: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-587:+Suppress+detailed+responses+for+handled+exceptions+in+security-sensitive+environments The PR that originated this discussion, is here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355 It is based on 2.0, but I would be working on Kafka Connect in 2.6 to get this behavior changed to the community’s preference. Looking forward to working with everyone! Thanks! Connor --- Connor Penhale | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic (https://openlogic.com/) Perforce (https://www.perforce.com/) Support: +1 866.399.6736 This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us immediately.
Re: Working on a contribution for suppressing exceptions from KafkaConnect
Hi John! I've added myself to the Wiki under cpenh...@perforce.com with the username cpenhale_openlogic. Let me know if you need anything else! Thanks! Connor4 On 3/31/20, 7:42 PM, "John Roesler" wrote: Hi Connor, Unfortunately, the wiki has a separate user list from the Jira project. You’ll have to create a user in the wiki and then let us know the I’d so we can give you edit permission (so you can create the KIP). Thanks! -John On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, at 13:38, Connor Penhale wrote: > Hi Chris, > > No problem! My customer understands they need to push their Kafka > release up to current ASAP, but they need to know which release they'd > be likely targeting to have this kind of feature. I'll go through the > KIP process and submit that. Should I use this as an opportunity now to > ask for permission to "Create KIP" in JIRA? My user ID is the email I > submitted the Improvement with. > > Thanks again! > Connor > > On 3/31/20, 12:30 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: > > Hi Connor, > > Thanks for the contribution! It looks like the feature you've > implemented > changes public interface, which means that a KIP would be required > in order > to merge them into Kafka. You can find more information about what > kinds of > changes require KIPs, what a KIP should consist of, and the process > for > creating one at > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Kafka+Improvement+Proposals > . > > Additionally, if the changes constitute a feature addition (which it > appears yours do), they're generally not applicable for backporting, and > should therefore be targeted against the latest branch of Kafka (i.e., > trunk) and will only be viable for inclusion in future releases. The > earliest possible release that such changes could be included in would be > 2.6, since the KIP deadline has already passed for the upcoming 2.5 release. > > Hope this helps! > > Cheers, > > Chris > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:12 AM Connor Penhale > wrote: > > > Hi Everyone! > > > > I’ve submitted a contribution for suppressing detailed exception messages > > from Kafka Connect here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-9766, > > with a pull request here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355. I > > was hoping to get some feedback on the code, and see if there’s anything I > > can do to help this feature become part of Kafka! We have a customer that > > really wants this feature, because their security team for PCI-DSS is > > unhappy with how Kafka Connect handles things like malformed JSON, as an > > example. Eager to work with everyone! > > > > Thanks! > > Connor > > > > Connor Penhale | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic (https://openlogic.com/) > > Perforce (https://www.perforce.com/) > > Support: +1 866.399.6736 > > > > > > > > This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If > > you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any > > attachments and notify us immediately. > > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do > not click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender > and know the content is safe. > > > > This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. > If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any > attachments and notify us immediately. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us immediately.
Re: Working on a contribution for suppressing exceptions from KafkaConnect
Hi Chris, No problem! My customer understands they need to push their Kafka release up to current ASAP, but they need to know which release they'd be likely targeting to have this kind of feature. I'll go through the KIP process and submit that. Should I use this as an opportunity now to ask for permission to "Create KIP" in JIRA? My user ID is the email I submitted the Improvement with. Thanks again! Connor On 3/31/20, 12:30 PM, "Christopher Egerton" wrote: Hi Connor, Thanks for the contribution! It looks like the feature you've implemented changes public interface, which means that a KIP would be required in order to merge them into Kafka. You can find more information about what kinds of changes require KIPs, what a KIP should consist of, and the process for creating one at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Kafka+Improvement+Proposals . Additionally, if the changes constitute a feature addition (which it appears yours do), they're generally not applicable for backporting, and should therefore be targeted against the latest branch of Kafka (i.e., trunk) and will only be viable for inclusion in future releases. The earliest possible release that such changes could be included in would be 2.6, since the KIP deadline has already passed for the upcoming 2.5 release. Hope this helps! Cheers, Chris On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:12 AM Connor Penhale wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I’ve submitted a contribution for suppressing detailed exception messages > from Kafka Connect here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-9766, > with a pull request here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355. I > was hoping to get some feedback on the code, and see if there’s anything I > can do to help this feature become part of Kafka! We have a customer that > really wants this feature, because their security team for PCI-DSS is > unhappy with how Kafka Connect handles things like malformed JSON, as an > example. Eager to work with everyone! > > Thanks! > Connor > > Connor Penhale | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic (https://openlogic.com/) > Perforce (https://www.perforce.com/) > Support: +1 866.399.6736 > > > > This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If > you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any > attachments and notify us immediately. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us immediately.
Working on a contribution for suppressing exceptions from KafkaConnect
Hi Everyone! I’ve submitted a contribution for suppressing detailed exception messages from Kafka Connect here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-9766, with a pull request here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8355. I was hoping to get some feedback on the code, and see if there’s anything I can do to help this feature become part of Kafka! We have a customer that really wants this feature, because their security team for PCI-DSS is unhappy with how Kafka Connect handles things like malformed JSON, as an example. Eager to work with everyone! Thanks! Connor Connor Penhale | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic (https://openlogic.com/) Perforce (https://www.perforce.com/) Support: +1 866.399.6736 This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us immediately.
[jira] [Created] (KAFKA-9766) Suppress detailed responses for security-sensitive (PCI-DSS) environments
Connor Penhale created KAFKA-9766: - Summary: Suppress detailed responses for security-sensitive (PCI-DSS) environments Key: KAFKA-9766 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-9766 Project: Kafka Issue Type: Improvement Components: KafkaConnect Reporter: Connor Penhale Kafka Connect's exception mapper prints an unchecked message from unhandled stack traces. This is not suitable for PCI-DSS and other sensitive environments. I am contributing a code change so that the community has the option to change this behavior based on a configuration option, "error.rest.response.message.detail.enabled." I have provided a unit test for handling the expected response if the option is enabled. PR is forthcoming. Looking forward to working with the community to see if this code can help! -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005)