[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2017-03-27 Thread Armin Braun (JIRA)

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Armin Braun commented on KAFKA-2045:


[~guozhang] maybe it would be a good step to add a Consumer JMH benchmark here, 
now that the basic skeleton for JMH was added? 
If there is interest in that I'd be happy to do it here or in another issue 
added to the parent of this one :)

> Memory Management on the consumer
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> Key: KAFKA-2045
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
> Project: Kafka
>  Issue Type: Sub-task
>  Components: consumer
>Reporter: Guozhang Wang
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> We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
> new producer. This would probably include:
> 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
> 2. byte buffer re-usage for on-the-fly de-compression.



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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2017-02-20 Thread Armin Braun (JIRA)

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Armin Braun commented on KAFKA-2045:


add a suggestion on how to concretely tackly this and KAFKA-1895 here -> 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-1895?focusedCommentId=15874894=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15874894

> Memory Management on the consumer
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> Key: KAFKA-2045
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
> Project: Kafka
>  Issue Type: Sub-task
>  Components: consumer
>Reporter: Guozhang Wang
>
> We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
> new producer. This would probably include:
> 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
> 2. byte buffer re-usage for on-the-fly de-compression.



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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-04-07 Thread Guozhang Wang (JIRA)

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Guozhang Wang commented on KAFKA-2045:
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[~rzidane] Although we have some thing like consumer / producer perf classes 
for testing end2end performance we do not have the ones for testing per-module 
performances (yet). What people usually do is just to use hprof / etc and check 
the time split-up on functions. 

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-28 Thread Rajiv Kurian (JIRA)

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Rajiv Kurian commented on KAFKA-2045:
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[~jkreps] Totally agree with you on the concerns with a re-write. I am sure 
I'll end up re-using most of the code, otherwise it will take too long in any 
case. But given this is just a prototype, I want the freedom to be able to make 
changes without being bound by the existing architecture  and class hierarchy 
of the client. Even if I do re-implement some of the parts I'll make sure that 
the client can (a) Do metadata requests so it can react to leaders moving etc. 
(b) Actually read from multiple topic/partitions spread across multiple brokers 
and not just a single broker. Again since this is just a rewrite with the sole 
purpose of exploring possible performance improvements there can be mainly two 
consequences:
i) It shows no improvements: In that case we end up not spending too much time 
changing the current code, and the hacky code just gets us to this conclusion 
faster.
ii) It shows interesting improvements: If this were true, we can afford to 
spend some time seeing which things actually improved performance and make a 
call on how to integrate best.

It might be counterproductive to look at the current client implementation and 
look at the % of time spent in each of the bottlenecks because those numbers 
are a consequence of the current memory layout. For example if we do an on the 
fly CRC check and decompression - CRC check time might go up a bit because now 
we are not striding over a contiguous ByteBuffer in one sweep. Right now the 
current client has this pattern ---  CRC check on Message1-- CRC check on 
Message2 -- CRC check on MessageN -- Hand message 1 to consumer -- 
Hand message N to consumer. Instead with the current proposal we will have a 
pattern of  -  Do CRC on a Message1 -- Hand Message1 to consumer -- Do 
CRC on a Message2 -- Hand Message2 to the consumer . So the CRC checks are 
separated by potential (certain?) cache floundering during the handling of the 
message by the client. On the other hand from the perspective of the consumer, 
the pattern looks like this -- Do CRC and validation on all messages starting 
with 1 to  N -- Hand messages 1 to N to client. Now by the time the Kafka 
consumer is done with validating and deserializing message N, message 1 is 
possibly already out of the cache. With the new approach since we hand over a 
message right after validating it, we give the consumer a hot in cache message, 
which might improve the consumer processing enough to offset for the loss in 
CRC striding efficiency. Or it may not. It might just turn out that doing the 
CRC validation upfront is just a pure win since all the CRC tables will be in 
cache etc and striding access for the CRC math is worth an extra iteration of 
the ByteBuffer contents. But it is might still be more profitable to elide 
copies and prevent creation of objects by doing on the fly decoding and handing 
out indexes into the actual response ByteBuffer. This result might further be 
affected by how expensive the deserialization and processing of the message is. 
If the message is a bloated JSON encoded object that is de-serialized into a 
POJO and then processed really slowly then none of this will probably matter. 
On the other hand if the message is a compact and binary encoded and can be 
processed with minimal cache misses, this stuff might add up. My point is that 
basing the TODOs on the current profile may not be optimal because the profile 
is a massive consequence of the current layout and allocation patterns. Also 
the profile will give %s and we might be able to keep the same %s but just 
still reduce the overall time taken for the entire consumer processing cycle. 
Just to belabor the point even further, the current hash map implementations 
might suffer so many cache misses that they mask an underlying improvement 
opportunity for the data in the maps. Switching to compact primitive arrays 
based open hash maps might surface that opportunity again.

Is there a performance test that is used to keep track of the new Consumer's 
performance? If so maybe I can wrap that in a JMH suite and re-use that to test 
improvements?

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
 2. byte buffer re-usage for on-the-fly de-compression.



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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-28 Thread Jay Kreps (JIRA)

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Jay Kreps commented on KAFKA-2045:
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Okay so since most the discussion here is on optimizing memory allocation let's 
use this ticket for that.

I filed KAFKA-2063 to cover bounding the fetch response size. I think that is a 
prerequisite for this ticket and also a bigger problem (those big allocations 
actually often cause OOM).

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-28 Thread Jay Kreps (JIRA)

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Jay Kreps commented on KAFKA-2045:
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The challenge with a rewrite is that it will be hard to know which 
optimizations actually mattered. It will likely also be just a partial 
implementation (i.e. just the fetch request to a single broker) so it will be 
hard to judge what that would look like or what the performance would be if we 
integrated it in the main client.

My recommendation would be to approach this in a data driven way instead. We 
have a working client, let's look at where it actually spends time and then 
improve things that use that time.

Example measurement:
1. % of time spent in decompression
2. % of time spent on CRC check
3. % of time spent on GC
4. Etc.

It would be easy to implement a slightly broken buffer reuse approach that just 
preallocated a largish number of buffers bigger than the size needed for 
experimental purposes and reused those. This would only work for the purposes 
of the perf test but would let us determine the impact of a more complete 
pooling implementation quickly.

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
 2. byte buffer re-usage for on-the-fly de-compression.



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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-27 Thread Rajiv Kurian (JIRA)

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Rajiv Kurian commented on KAFKA-2045:
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Copying from the email list and expanding here.

My proposal is a single RequestBuffer and a single ResponseBuffer per broker 
per Consumer. We also need another ByteBuffer to write decompressed message 
sets (only one message set at a time) to. Another part of the proposal is that 
when we get a complete response we iterate through the ResponseBuffer and hand 
out pointers into the buffer to the main low level iterator. 

The work flow will look a bit like this:

i) Re-use the same request buffer to create a request and write to the socket.
ii) On poll re-use the same response buffer to read in the request till it is 
complete.
iii) When the response is complete respond with an iterator to the response 
ByteBuffer. The consumer must now consume the entire ByteBuffer on this thread 
since we use the a single mutable iterator to go through the ByteBuffer.

It is tricker when we consider that during iteration the consumer might send 
more kafka requests and call poll further. I have a proposal to handle this and 
still allow requests/responses to be pipelined. I have written something like 
this for another application and since this is all happening in a single thread 
it is a bit easier. Here is my proposed design:

The response buffer looks a bit like this:
 
|___:___|_}

: is the  consumer iterator i.e. the position of the next message to be 
consumed. This is always at the start of a new response, new message set, new 
message in a message set, end of a response etc. Because iterating on the fly 
means we will go from one token to the next one.
| is the network producer iterator i.e. the position of the next byte from the 
broker. This can be any arbitrary byte boundary really.
} is the end of the buffer.

Some details:
i) Most of the times  the consumer iterator (:) remains behind the network 
iterator(|). It will catch up when we have consumed all messages.

ii) Sometimes we will have fewer bytes than required for a complete response at 
the end of the buffer. In such a case we will have to wait till we have enough 
space in the front of the buffer i.e. consumer iterator has moved on enough to 
create enough space. In such a case we will write some special value at the 
index where we skipped to the end. This will let the consumer know that it 
needs to skip ahead to the front of the buffer. This means that every response 
HAS to be prepended by a special header (can be a single byte) which says if 
the following bytes are a valid message or not.  Say 1 means valid, 0 means 
invalid. The consumer will only know that there is more to read when the 
network-producer sequence has gone ahead of the consumer sequence. And it will 
either read the message right there (if the header says 1) or skip to the 
beginning of the buffer (if the header says 0).

iii) Every time the network producer prepares to write a new response to an 
index in the buffer it needs to ensure that there is at least 4 bytes (size of 
message field) + 1 byte for the header + some other minimum amount we can use 
as a heuristic before it considers the buffer slice usable. If the buffer slice 
is not usable it has to write the skip ahead header (0) and increment its 
sequence to point exactly to the end of the buffer. Once the network producer 
finds enough space in the thread it should wait till at least 4 bytes are read 
so that it can definitively know the request size. When it reads the size it is 
certain how many contiguous bytes are required (size of message + 1 byte for 
header) . Now it can decide with certainty whether it can continue with the 
slice of the buffer it has (i.e from current pos till end of buffer) or if it 
has to write the skip ahead header (0) and wait till it gets more contiguous 
space. If it can continue then it will wait till the entire response is read 
into the buffer (i,e bytes read == size of response). When this happens, it 
needs to increment its sequence by size of response + 1 (1 for the header ) and 
also set the header to 1 to indicate that there is a readable response.

iv)  A ConsumerRecordIterator is only reset/created once we have an entire 
contiguous response. Each ConsumerRecordIterator will have a pointer to the 
beginning of the response and its size. The iterator will hand out 
ConsumerRecord messages (or reuse them). Each ConsumerRecord also has a  
pointer to the beginning of the message it is pointing to and a size/pointer to 
the end. It can also have a mutable reference field for the Topic and an int 
for the partition. All fields are mutable so that these flyweights can be 
re-used.

v) Once an entire response has been iterated through ( i.e bytes iterated == 

[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-27 Thread Jay Kreps (JIRA)

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Jay Kreps commented on KAFKA-2045:
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[~rzidane] I do think a prototype would help show whether there was a real perf 
gain here or not. Given the other cpu expenses we have like CRC checks it's not 
obvious that memory will be an issue, but you just never know till someone 
tries.

I think one approach that might be simpler would just be to pool the 
ByteBuffers rather than trying to force it to be the case that there is exactly 
one. The pool will be super trivial since the requests will all be 
approximately the same size (so just an ArrayList). We don't need to try to 
make the pool block or support threads or anything like that.

We currently have this api:
{code}
  ConsumerRecords recs = consumer.poll(100);
{code}

We would add another version of that api to facilitate reuse:
{code}
  ConsumerRecords recs = consumer.poll(100, recs);
{code}
The second parameter is a ConsumerRecords instance that the client is 
recycling. If recs=null this api is the same as the current poll api. If 
non-null we would grab the underlying ByteBuffers from the ConsumerRecords 
instance and add it to our pool for reuse.

I think this would allow both lazy deserialization (which I suspect on its own 
is enough to avoid issues with the ConsumerRecords) and reuse at the network 
level as we read requests.

It is true that the memory bound is a little loose since you can have two 
requests at any time (one being read and one being given out to the consumer), 
but that is fine.

Thoughts?

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
 2. byte buffer re-usage for on-the-fly de-compression.



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2015-03-27 Thread Jay Kreps (JIRA)

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Jay Kreps commented on KAFKA-2045:
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Yeah, as you say, I think bounding memory would still be possible. Once a 
certain amount of memory was in use you would not begin new socket reads until 
more memory was available. The issue with this is just that it cuts across many 
layers so it may be tricky to implement.

Anyhow, consider all these approaches. I think the real things we have to 
establish are:
1. We can actually make serious performance improvements by improving memory 
allocation patterns
2. We don't mangle the code to badly in doing so

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
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 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-27 Thread Rajiv Kurian (JIRA)

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Rajiv Kurian commented on KAFKA-2045:
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[~jkreps] the simple pool of ByteBuffers definitely sounds like an easier thing 
to start out with. Like you said a nice thing that a single buffer offers is 
absolute memory bounds, but I am sure there are other ways to tackle that. I 
could just have a setting for highest number of concurrent requests which is 
equal to the highest number of concurrent buffers per broker. We can then 
create buffers lazily (up to the max) and rotate between them in order. So for 
3 buffers we could go 0-1-2-0 etc. The consumer would still have an index 
into this pool as would the network producer. The network producer will not be 
able to re-use a response buffer that is still being iterated upon so the 
consumption of a response cannot be delayed forever without causing poll calls 
to run out of buffers and just return empty iterators.

Your proposed API for ConsumerRecords reuse sounds fine.

This gives me enough to work on a prototype, which I hope I can do soon with 
permission from the bosses.

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
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Rajiv Kurian commented on KAFKA-2045:
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1. We can actually make serious performance improvements by improving memory 
allocation patterns - Yeah this is definitely the crux of it. rantAny 
performance improvements should also look at long term effects like GC 
activity, longest GC pause etc in addition to just throughput. Even the 
throughput and latency numbers will have to be looked at for a long time 
especially in an application where things don't fit in the L1 or L2 caches. I 
have usually found that with Java most benchmarks (even ones conducted with 
JMH) lie because of how short in duration they are. Since Java has a Thread 
Local Allocation Buffer, objects  allocated in quick succession get allocated 
next to each other in memory too. So even though an ArrayList of objects is an 
array of pointers to objects, the fact that these objects were allocated next 
to each other means they get 95% (hand wave hand wave) of the benefits of an 
equivalent std::vector of structs in C++. The nice memory-striding effects of 
sequential buffers holds even if it is a linked list of Objects again given 
that the Objects themselves were next to each other. But over time even if a 
single Object is actually not deleted/shuffled in the ArrayList,  a garbage 
collection is very likely to move them around in memory and when this happens 
they don't move as an entire unit but separately. Now what began as sequential 
access degenerates into an array of pointers to randomly laid out objects. And 
performance of these is an order of magnitude lower than arrays of sequentially 
laid out structs in C. A ByteBuffer/sun.misc.Unsafe based approach on the other 
hand never changes memory layout so the benefits continue to hold. This is why 
in my experience the 99.99th and above percentiles of typical POJO based 
solutions tanks and is orders of magnitude worse than the 99th etc, whereas 
solutions based on ByteBuffers and sun.misc.Unsafe have 99.99s that are maybe 
4-5 times worse than the 99th/rant over. But again there might (will?) be 
other bottlenecks like the network or CRC that might show up before one can get 
the max out of such a design.

2. We don't mangle the code to badly in doing so - I am planning to write a 
prototype using my own code from scratch that would include things like on the 
fly protocol parsing, buffer management and socket management. I'll  keep 
looking at /copy  the existing code to ensure that I handle errors correctly. 
It is just easier to start from fresh - that way I can work solely on getting 
this to work rather than worrying about how to fit this design in the current 
class hierarchy. A separate no strings prototype will also probably provide the 
best platform for a performance demo since I can use things like primitive 
array based open hash-maps and other non-allocating primitives based data 
structures for metadata management. It just gives me a lot of options without 
messing with trunk. If this works out and we see an improvement in performance 
that seems interesting, we can work on how best to not mangle the code etc. 
Thoughts?


 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-26 Thread Jay Kreps (JIRA)

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Jay Kreps commented on KAFKA-2045:
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Hey [~rzidane], one statically allocated ByteBuffer per node is theoretically 
sufficient sufficient once we have some limit on the response size. It won't be 
a trivial change though as that reuse will have to go through the NetworkClient 
and Selector layers so it will require careful design if we attempt it.

Currently there are two main memory uses: we allocate the big ByteBuffer 
allocations we do for the responses, then we parse these into many many 
ConsumerRecord instances which are stored internally until we can give them out 
to the user. Not sure which is worse the big chunks or the umpteen little 
records.
 
I suspect the ConsumerRecord allocation would be addressed by KAFKA-1895 but 
that would actually complicate ByteBuffer reuse since now we would hand these 
buffers out to the user. You could potentially implement both but you would 
need to change consumer.poll to allow passing back in the ConsumerRecords 
instance for reuse when you are done with it.

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-26 Thread Rajiv Kurian (JIRA)

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Rajiv Kurian commented on KAFKA-2045:
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Bounding the ByteBuffers and statically allocating them would be great. On 
consumers do we need any more than a ByteBuffer per broker that the client is 
talking to? Why do we need a buffer per topic/partition? Even if the leader for 
a topic/partition changes, we will ultimately know about it and ask the new 
leader for data. This data will still be after the previous data for the 
topic/partition that moved so to the consumer it will just look like another 
message set and order per topic/partition is still maintained.

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
 2. byte buffer re-usage for on-the-fly de-compression.



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2015-03-25 Thread Guozhang Wang (JIRA)

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Guozhang Wang commented on KAFKA-2045:
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Agreed, and I remember we did have some discussions regarding (1) and proposed 
(b).

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
 2. byte buffer re-usage for on-the-fly de-compression.



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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-2045) Memory Management on the consumer

2015-03-24 Thread Jay Kreps (JIRA)

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Jay Kreps commented on KAFKA-2045:
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There are really two issues:
1. Bounding fetch size while still guaranteeing that you eventually get data 
from each partition
2. Pooling and reusing byte buffers

I actually think (1) is really pressing, but (2) is just an optimization that 
may or may not have high payoff.

(1) is what leads to the huge memory allocations and sudden OOM when a consumer 
falls behind and then suddenly has lots of data or when partition assignment 
changes.

For (1) I think we need to figure out whether this is (a) some heuristic in the 
consumer which decides to only do fetches for a subset of topic/partitions or 
(b) a new parameter in the fetch request that gives a total bound on the 
request size. I think we discussed this a while back and agreed on (b), but I 
can't remember now. The argument if I recall was that that was the only way for 
the server to monitor all the subscribed topics and avoid blocking on an empty 
topic while non-empty partitions have data.

Bounding the allocations should help performance a lot too.

If we do this bounding then I think reuse will be a lot easier to since each 
response will use at most that many bytes and you could potentially even just 
statically allocate the byte buffer for each partition and reuse it.

 Memory Management on the consumer
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 Key: KAFKA-2045
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-2045
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter: Guozhang Wang

 We need to add the memory management on the new consumer like we did in the 
 new producer. This would probably include:
 1. byte buffer re-usage for fetch response partition data.
 2. byte buffer re-usage for on-the-fly de-compression.



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