[jira] [Updated] (KAFKA-3234) Minor documentation edits: clarify minISR; some topic-level configs are missing
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Ismael Juma updated KAFKA-3234:
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Fix Version/s: (was: 0.10.2.0)
> Minor documentation edits: clarify minISR; some topic-level configs are
> missing
> ---
>
> Key: KAFKA-3234
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3234
> Project: Kafka
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: website
>Reporter: Joel Koshy
>Assignee: Joel Koshy
>
> Based on an offline conversation with [~junrao] and [~gwenshap]
> The current documentation is somewhat confusing on minISR in that it says
> that it offers a trade-off between consistency and availability. From the
> user's view-point, consistency (at least in the usual sense of the term) is
> achieved by disabling unclean leader election - since no replica that was out
> of ISR can be elected as the leader. So a consumer will never see a message
> that was not acknowledged to a producer that set acks to "all". Or to put it
> another way, setting minISR alone will not prevent exposing uncommitted
> messages - disabling unclean leader election is the stronger requirement. You
> can achieve the same effect though by setting minISR equal to the number of
> replicas.
> There is also some stale documentation that needs to be removed:
> {quote}
> In our current release we choose the second strategy and favor choosing a
> potentially inconsistent replica when all replicas in the ISR are dead. In
> the future, we would like to make this configurable to better support use
> cases where downtime is preferable to inconsistency.
> {quote}
> Finally, it was reported on the mailing list (from Elias Levy) that
> compression.type should be added under the topic configs. Same goes for
> unclean leader election. Would be good to have these auto-generated.
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Jason Gustafson updated KAFKA-3234:
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Fix Version/s: (was: 0.10.1.0)
0.10.2.0
> Minor documentation edits: clarify minISR; some topic-level configs are
> missing
> ---
>
> Key: KAFKA-3234
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3234
> Project: Kafka
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: website
>Reporter: Joel Koshy
>Assignee: Joel Koshy
> Fix For: 0.10.2.0
>
>
> Based on an offline conversation with [~junrao] and [~gwenshap]
> The current documentation is somewhat confusing on minISR in that it says
> that it offers a trade-off between consistency and availability. From the
> user's view-point, consistency (at least in the usual sense of the term) is
> achieved by disabling unclean leader election - since no replica that was out
> of ISR can be elected as the leader. So a consumer will never see a message
> that was not acknowledged to a producer that set acks to "all". Or to put it
> another way, setting minISR alone will not prevent exposing uncommitted
> messages - disabling unclean leader election is the stronger requirement. You
> can achieve the same effect though by setting minISR equal to the number of
> replicas.
> There is also some stale documentation that needs to be removed:
> {quote}
> In our current release we choose the second strategy and favor choosing a
> potentially inconsistent replica when all replicas in the ISR are dead. In
> the future, we would like to make this configurable to better support use
> cases where downtime is preferable to inconsistency.
> {quote}
> Finally, it was reported on the mailing list (from Elias Levy) that
> compression.type should be added under the topic configs. Same goes for
> unclean leader election. Would be good to have these auto-generated.
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Ismael Juma updated KAFKA-3234:
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Fix Version/s: (was: 0.10.0.1)
0.10.1.0
> Minor documentation edits: clarify minISR; some topic-level configs are
> missing
> ---
>
> Key: KAFKA-3234
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3234
> Project: Kafka
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: website
>Reporter: Joel Koshy
>Assignee: Joel Koshy
> Fix For: 0.10.1.0
>
>
> Based on an offline conversation with [~junrao] and [~gwenshap]
> The current documentation is somewhat confusing on minISR in that it says
> that it offers a trade-off between consistency and availability. From the
> user's view-point, consistency (at least in the usual sense of the term) is
> achieved by disabling unclean leader election - since no replica that was out
> of ISR can be elected as the leader. So a consumer will never see a message
> that was not acknowledged to a producer that set acks to "all". Or to put it
> another way, setting minISR alone will not prevent exposing uncommitted
> messages - disabling unclean leader election is the stronger requirement. You
> can achieve the same effect though by setting minISR equal to the number of
> replicas.
> There is also some stale documentation that needs to be removed:
> {quote}
> In our current release we choose the second strategy and favor choosing a
> potentially inconsistent replica when all replicas in the ISR are dead. In
> the future, we would like to make this configurable to better support use
> cases where downtime is preferable to inconsistency.
> {quote}
> Finally, it was reported on the mailing list (from Elias Levy) that
> compression.type should be added under the topic configs. Same goes for
> unclean leader election. Would be good to have these auto-generated.
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Joel Koshy updated KAFKA-3234:
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Fix Version/s: (was: 0.10.0.0)
0.10.0.1
> Minor documentation edits: clarify minISR; some topic-level configs are
> missing
> ---
>
> Key: KAFKA-3234
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3234
> Project: Kafka
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: website
>Reporter: Joel Koshy
>Assignee: Joel Koshy
> Fix For: 0.10.0.1
>
>
> Based on an offline conversation with [~junrao] and [~gwenshap]
> The current documentation is somewhat confusing on minISR in that it says
> that it offers a trade-off between consistency and availability. From the
> user's view-point, consistency (at least in the usual sense of the term) is
> achieved by disabling unclean leader election - since no replica that was out
> of ISR can be elected as the leader. So a consumer will never see a message
> that was not acknowledged to a producer that set acks to "all". Or to put it
> another way, setting minISR alone will not prevent exposing uncommitted
> messages - disabling unclean leader election is the stronger requirement. You
> can achieve the same effect though by setting minISR equal to the number of
> replicas.
> There is also some stale documentation that needs to be removed:
> {quote}
> In our current release we choose the second strategy and favor choosing a
> potentially inconsistent replica when all replicas in the ISR are dead. In
> the future, we would like to make this configurable to better support use
> cases where downtime is preferable to inconsistency.
> {quote}
> Finally, it was reported on the mailing list (from Elias Levy) that
> compression.type should be added under the topic configs. Same goes for
> unclean leader election. Would be good to have these auto-generated.
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Ismael Juma updated KAFKA-3234:
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Fix Version/s: (was: 0.9.0.1)
0.9.1.0
> Minor documentation edits: clarify minISR; some topic-level configs are
> missing
> ---
>
> Key: KAFKA-3234
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3234
> Project: Kafka
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: website
>Reporter: Joel Koshy
>Assignee: Joel Koshy
> Fix For: 0.9.1.0
>
>
> Based on an offline conversation with [~junrao] and [~gwenshap]
> The current documentation is somewhat confusing on minISR in that it says
> that it offers a trade-off between consistency and availability. From the
> user's view-point, consistency (at least in the usual sense of the term) is
> achieved by disabling unclean leader election - since no replica that was out
> of ISR can be elected as the leader. So a consumer will never see a message
> that was not acknowledged to a producer that set acks to "all". Or to put it
> another way, setting minISR alone will not prevent exposing uncommitted
> messages - disabling unclean leader election is the stronger requirement. You
> can achieve the same effect though by setting minISR equal to the number of
> replicas.
> There is also some stale documentation that needs to be removed:
> {quote}
> In our current release we choose the second strategy and favor choosing a
> potentially inconsistent replica when all replicas in the ISR are dead. In
> the future, we would like to make this configurable to better support use
> cases where downtime is preferable to inconsistency.
> {quote}
> Finally, it was reported on the mailing list (from Elias Levy) that
> compression.type should be added under the topic configs. Same goes for
> unclean leader election. Would be good to have these auto-generated.
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