[l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Mechtilde
Hello,


Richard schrieb:
 Charles-H. Schulz escribió:
 Alexandro,

 Le 26/02/10 11:51, Alexandro Colorado a écrit :


 And obviously they knew they would run out of time to integrate it
 before the release. It was RC 5 remember. So far, all this does look
 like if you could only submit your patch at RC 5 level, perhaps the ES
 QA process is somewhat suboptimal.

We should look how to make this process better, esp. for Version 3.3.

Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33

So we can plan the time for translation and the time for testing the
integrated translation in April 2010.

This timeline is for *all* native language communities the same.

*After* this time the branch to finish version 3.3 followed.

So we know now (nearly beginning of March 2010) when we need the people
for translation and the following testing.

 I think the thing to do is forget the bickering. And plan how to avoid
 the problem in the future.

see above
 
 Lots of effort goes into getting the translations done in a short amount
 of time with limited resources. 

That is the task for all language groups.

The problem may be that Sun/Oracle is no
 longer building the Spanish OOo in a timely fashion. 

Sun/Oracle build OpenOffice.org in many languages. But the language
groups are responsible for their translation and the quality of them.

I may be wrong but
 that is why I get my instance of OOo via my distro who in turn get it
 from Go-OO.

which contain the same language code.

Kind regards

Mechtilde

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Wasn't this timeline changed just in the last days? I think I remember
string freeze date a week before? Or maybe I just mixed the numbers.

Lp, m.

2010/2/27 Mechtilde o...@mechtilde.de


 Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33



Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Mechtilde
Hello,

Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:
 Wasn't this timeline changed just in the last days? I think I remember
 string freeze date a week before? Or maybe I just mixed the numbers.

 Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33

These dates are not fixed yet.

But it shows how we can plann the whole QA process.

Actual information are available at Release Status Meeting and their
Minutes.

There is also an IRC #ooonlc at freenode.net

Regards

Mechtilde

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Well, these days should more or less be fixed, at least few weeks before the
string freeze, and only exceptional events could move them.

Lp, m.

2010/2/27 Mechtilde o...@mechtilde.de

 Hello,

 Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:
  Wasn't this timeline changed just in the last days? I think I remember
  string freeze date a week before? Or maybe I just mixed the numbers.

  Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33

 These dates are not fixed yet.

 But it shows how we can plann the whole QA process.

 Actual information are available at Release Status Meeting and their
 Minutes.

 There is also an IRC #ooonlc at freenode.net

 Regards

 Mechtilde

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
And by exceptionaly events I do not mean the inclusion of a CWS with
thousands of new or updated strings (like the help CWS') in the last
milestone of the string freeze - those have always prolonged the translation
time and should be banned as such.

Lp, m.

2010/2/27 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net

 Well, these days should more or less be fixed, at least few weeks before
 the string freeze, and only exceptional events could move them.

 Lp, m.

 2010/2/27 Mechtilde o...@mechtilde.de

 Hello,


 Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:
  Wasn't this timeline changed just in the last days? I think I remember
  string freeze date a week before? Or maybe I just mixed the numbers.

  Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33

 These dates are not fixed yet.

 But it shows how we can plann the whole QA process.

 Actual information are available at Release Status Meeting and their
 Minutes.

 There is also an IRC #ooonlc at freenode.net

 Regards

 Mechtilde

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Martin,

Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:
 Well, these days should more or less be fixed, at least few weeks before the
 string freeze, and only exceptional events could move them.

They aren't fixed yet.

Please follow the changes of the timelines.

Regards

Mechtilde

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[l10n-dev] Call for Nominations for Community Council Seats

2010-02-27 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
All,

On behalf of the Community Council, I would like to announce the new round of 
elections for the Council and start the process by asking the OpenOffice.org 
Community members to nominate those they think would best contribute both to 
the Council and to OpenOffice.org. You may nominate yourself.

Consider doing that. Or nominate someone you think has been particularly 
valuable for the project; he or she need not be a developer! This cycle, like 
the first one last year, is important. OpenOffice.org is ten this year and the 
eyes of the world are looking upon us with eagerness to see how we work with 
business, government, education, and individuals. Your voice, your input, your 
experience is needed to take OOo into its next decade. 

The rules for the process are detailed in a wiki on the subject.[0] I won't 
bore you by repeating them here; please visit the wiki page.

Several categories of OpenOffice.org contributors make up the Council, for a 
total of ten persons. Those categories cover the breadth of OpenOffice.org and 
are detailed below. All but one, the permanent Sun/Oracle representative, are 
elected by community vote as stipulated in the Election Process Proposal. That 
seat is held by Stefan Taxhet. The terms of Pavel Janík, Martin Hollmichel and 
John McCreesh have reached their end and their seats are up for election. On 
behalf of all, I'd like to thank them for their long and immensely productive 
contributions to the Council! 

The seats open for election include a Native Language Confederation 
Representative (the seat now held by Pavel), a Code Contributor Representative 
(Martin) and Product Development Representative (John). Community members only 
vote for those who will represent the constituency: developers vote for the 
developer seat, product development for that seat, and so on. You will receive 
an email informing you of your constituency; this is based on your role in the 
Project. 


Details about the nomination: 
==

The nomination process is normally allotted one week dated from this post; 
however, the last time we went through this, last year, we were asked to give 
more time for nominations, and so this time around, we are allowing two weeks 
for nominations commencing 1 March and ending 15 March at 24:00 UTC. We will be 
using tried and true technology for the actual voting: the Survey machine, and 
only Community Members will be allowed to vote. Results will be posted in 
accordance with the published Election Process Proposal and a copy of this 
message will also be posted to the wiki at  
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/call_for_nominations_201003.[1]
  A commissary will help coordinate the election process, and I'll serve in 
that role. The observers will be Sophie Gautier and Drew Jensen, as with last 
year's election.

This announcement will be posted to the relevant public lists, as detailed in 
the Election Process wiki:d...@openoffice.org, d...@native_lang.openoffice.org, 
disc...@openoffice.org as well as dev@l10n.openoffice.org and 
project_le...@openoffice.org.

Again, consider nominating yourself or someone equally interesting. We need 
energetic contributors who understand the Project and have a sense of its 
dynamic and potential. The world is changing--we know that-- and to make sure 
it changes for the better, join us on the Council.

Louis

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http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/Election_Process_Proposal
[1] 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/call_for_nominations_201003


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[l10n-dev] Using a Bafia dictionary in OO 3.1 (ksf_Cm)

2010-02-27 Thread Uwe Jung
Hello,

I hope I am on the right place here.
I'm working on a Hunspell dictionary for the Bafia language which is
situated in Central Cameroon. The ISO-Code is ksf. The dictionary is
starting to work fine using Hunspell stand alone inside Ubuntu 9.10.

How can I incorporate the dictionary to Open Office 3.1 ? Currently it
seems not to know that this language exist?

If there is a project to start on this matter, how should I start it?

Best regards

Uwe Jung
Yaounde


[l10n-dev] Relief at the Galician Team (OpenOffice.org)

2010-02-27 Thread suso
Hi all,

Antón will relieve me at the Galician l10n team as coordinator:

http://gl.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=58

I'm very proud for having had the opportunity to contribute to the
OpenOffice.org project, coordinating the Galician language l10n team.

The best of my experience here was feeling the personal engagement between
both Sun and volunteerism individuals. That's a very advisable example for
all the Open Source world, including the FSF subset. So I'd like to express
my personal gratitude to all d...@l10n people, with a special remark to:

- Sophie Gautier
- Rafaella Braconi 
- the German Team. Impressive!!

If I'll need to make a suggestion: updating and normalizing the l10n doc
could be a good idea in order to improve the productivity of newcomers,
specially at the QA side of the life (o:

@Antón: just don't forget the QA mantra ;) 

Best regards,

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