[jira] [Commented] (SOLR-3296) Explore alternatives to Commons CSV
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13269966#comment-13269966 ] Steven Rowe commented on SOLR-3296: --- Noggit is now up [on Maven Central|http://search.maven.org/#artifactdetails%7Corg.noggit%7Cnoggit%7C0.5%7Cjar]. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SOLR-3296) Explore alternatives to Commons CSV
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13269987#comment-13269987 ] Robert Muir commented on SOLR-3296: --- Thanks for the ping. I'll work up a new patch in a few days if nobody else wants to take it (dont hesitate), I'm just currently working on some other issues right now. Ivy parts should be pretty easy either way. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13270127#comment-13270127 ] Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296: -- bq. Noggit is now up on Maven Central. Yup I received notification today. So all I need to remember in the future is not to submit near the weekend. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13269324#comment-13269324 ] Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296: -- After some research (thanks Steven), it seems the likely cause of the failure is that their repositories timeout after some period if they aren't synced to the central repository. Because I submitted the bundle on a Friday, it perhaps didn't get looked into until too late. So I've resubmitted the bundle (on a Monday now), fingers crossed. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13265809#comment-13265809 ] Steven Rowe commented on SOLR-3296: --- Chris, I don't see org.noggit:noggit up on Maven Central yet, so I guess your request has hit a snag - do you know what's happening? Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296:
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Funny you ask,
When I submitted the bundle I received the same 'Staging Completed'
notification as I did when I submitted langdetect. A relevant snippet from the
email:
{noformat}
The following artifacts have been staged to the Central Bundles-102
(u:MYUSERNAME, a:122.59.251.231) repository.
{noformat}
with all the appropriate artifacts listed.
Just today I received a 'Staging Repository Dropped' notification with only the
following information:
{noformat}
The Central Bundles-102 (u:MYUSERNAME, a:122.59.251.231) staging repository has
been dropped.
{noformat}
When langdetect was accepted, I received a 'Promotion Completed' email, so I
think this is a bad sign but I've received no information about why it was
rejected and don't know how to proceed further.
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Key: SOLR-3296
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
Project: Solr
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: Build
Reporter: Chris Male
Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch,
pom.xml, pom.xml
In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make
available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these
solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore
alternatives.
I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to
consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's
website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case,
OpenCSV uses ASL2.
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13263213#comment-13263213 ] Michael McCandless commented on SOLR-3296: -- +1 to pull Noggit from it's official release, and stop using the source-copied version. Can someone who understands the Maven side do what's necessary here? Sonatype worked great for langdetect, I think? Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13263219#comment-13263219 ] Robert Muir commented on SOLR-3296: --- I keep threatening to commit that patch only because: * i think its more legit to have this real release than code-copied from apache labs. I think it undeniably makes our release more clean. * i left the patch up for a month already for someone to go thru whatever that process is to get it in maven. I don't actually follow thru on my threats YET because: * i worry someone will not do the right thing with maven, instead just revert back to fake release of other peoples stuff, which I helped work on to remove. * if someone does such a thing, i feel the maven artifacts are unreleasable, e.g. we are actually back in commons-csv state. So what would we do? exclude maven artifacts from any release candidate in this case and just everyone argues about it? or it falls back on the release manager to deal with? Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13263227#comment-13263227 ] Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296: -- This feel off my radar a little as I became distracted by other issues, but I'll prepare a release and submit it to Sonatype today. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13263233#comment-13263233 ] Robert Muir commented on SOLR-3296: --- Chris: thank you! Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13244502#comment-13244502 ] Michael McCandless commented on SOLR-3296: -- bq. wrt commons-csv alternatives, it's too risky for little/no gain. This confuses me: commons-csv is unreleased, while there are other license-friendly packages (eg opencsv) that have been released for some time (multiple releases), been tested in the field, had bugs found fixed, etc. Why use an unreleased package when released alternatives are available? bq. I put a lot of effort into getting commons-csv up to snuff, Wait: a lot of effort doing what? Did you have to modify commons-csv sources? Or do you mean open issues w/ the commons devs to fix things/add test cases to commons-csv sources (great!)...? bq. Switching implementations would most likely result in a lot of regressions that we don't have tests for. I'd expect the reverse, ie, it's more likely there are bugs in commons-csv (it's not released and thus not heavily tested) than eg in opencsv. And if somehow that's really the case (eg we have particular/unusual CSV parsing requirements), we should have our own tests asserting so? Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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Jan Høydahl commented on SOLR-3296:
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{quote}
http://commons.apache.org/csv/team-list.html
I became a CSV committer to address all of the issues.
{quote}
Great Yonik. As a CSV committer, could you not initiate a release? On the csv
web site, it says:
bq. There are currently no official downloads, and will not be until CSV moves
out of the Sandbox
CSV has moved out of the Sandbox, so what stops you (the team) from taking the
code as is and releasing it, perhaps as a 0.x version?
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Key: SOLR-3296
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
Project: Solr
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: Build
Reporter: Chris Male
Attachments: SOLR-3296_noggit.patch
In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make
available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these
solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore
alternatives.
I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to
consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's
website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case,
OpenCSV uses ASL2.
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13242104#comment-13242104 ] Dawid Weiss commented on SOLR-3296: --- BSD or ASL2 -- either is fine with another ASL2 project. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13242105#comment-13242105 ] Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296: -- Yeah I know. I was just pointing out that it used ASL. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13242109#comment-13242109 ] Uwe Schindler commented on SOLR-3296: - What about apache-noggit? There are lots of other JSON parsers/generators available! Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13242173#comment-13242173 ] Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296: -- I had originally intended to add noggit to this issue but there is some discussion about replacing it given how very efficient it is. Perhaps its a good idea to, as this issue says, explore alternatives to see whether something else meets our performance needs. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13242187#comment-13242187 ] Uwe Schindler commented on SOLR-3296: - I agree that noggit might be the most performant solution. The question is: why is there no release already. If its maintained by Yonik at ASF and sucessfully used in Solr, why not release the version we currently have in maven and use it? If Yonik thinks it's not ready for a release, we should not use it. Similar to what Dawid did, it took him a few hours to make the Carrot 1.5 stuff available via Maven repo. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13242204#comment-13242204 ] Dawid Weiss commented on SOLR-3296: --- I didn't know it's Yonik's actually. It even has a pom.xml file -- http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/? Yonik if you have an account at SonaType this takes as much as changing the revision number to something without a SNAPSHOT and an mvn deploy (plus accept from Nexus). Let me know if you need some guidance but it should be a 10 minute effort if you have the maven code ready. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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Steven Rowe commented on SOLR-3296:
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Minor nit about releasing noggit, which is hosted at Apache Labs: from
[http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html]:
{quote}
h2. Guidelines
[...]
h4. Releases
(x) Labs are prohibited from making releases.
{quote}
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Key: SOLR-3296
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
Project: Solr
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: Build
Reporter: Chris Male
In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make
available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these
solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore
alternatives.
I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to
consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's
website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case,
OpenCSV uses ASL2.
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13242374#comment-13242374 ] Dawid Weiss commented on SOLR-3296: --- I guess this means official apache releases but if the release is done in a private namespace then this isn't a problem? I mean -- I could probably take the source right now, change the group id to something I have access to (com.carrotsearch.thirdparty) and release it, but so can Yonik (under his own domain or whatever namespace he wishes that is different than Apache's)? I admit this is kind of weird that Solr is using something that cannot be officially released. Why not make it part of Solr then? Just copy the source code over and publish as a separate artefact? Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13242661#comment-13242661 ] Yonik Seeley commented on SOLR-3296: First steps: https://github.com/yonik/noggit https://github.com/yonik/noggit/downloads wrt commons-csv alternatives, it's too risky for little/no gain. I put a lot of effort into getting commons-csv up to snuff, and almost all of the tests for that reside in commons-csv itself, not in Solr. Switching implementations would most likely result in a lot of regressions that we don't have tests for. ps: Steve, you're absolutely correct about the reason why there was never a separate noggit release. If github had been around in 2006, I might have chosen differently. Explore alternatives to Commons CSV --- Key: SOLR-3296 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296 Project: Solr Issue Type: Improvement Components: Build Reporter: Chris Male In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives. I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
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Robert Muir commented on SOLR-3296:
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{quote}
First steps:
https://github.com/yonik/noggit
https://github.com/yonik/noggit/downloads
{quote}
+1 !
Is this safe to cutover to in trunk? I can do the ivy parts.
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Key: SOLR-3296
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
Project: Solr
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: Build
Reporter: Chris Male
In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make
available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these
solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore
alternatives.
I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to
consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's
website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case,
OpenCSV uses ASL2.
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