Re: Suggestions for improvements of current maven version

2019-11-28 Thread Paul Hammant
Without breaking backwards compatibility, it could be a choice for the Pom.
Sure that’s an addition, but it it not like the format can never change.
It’s an excellent idea.

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:28 PM Robert Scholte  wrote:

> As mentioned by Elliotte this won't fit in the current pom model version.
> And it will effect dependency resolution. The current order of
> dependencies in the pom reflects the order on the classpath.
> As long as there are no duplicate classes you should be fine, but the real
> world shows us differently.
> So with any proposal to regroup dependencies, people should be able to
> control the final order.
>
> thanks,
> Robert
> On 28-11-2019 14:14:49, Elliotte Rusty Harold  wrote:
> It's not a bad idea if we were starting from a green field. I'm not
> sure how the broader community would feel about changing the structure
> of the pom.xml file at this point. These things are very broadly used,
> and my gut is that the small improvement would not justify the pain of
> the transition.
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 5:37 PM diku gabriell
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > My name is Gabriel Dicu.I am currently working with apache maven and I’d
> like to make a suggestion about improving maven dependency structure.In my
> opinion, dependencies should be organized better, because is difficult to
> spot dependencies for different scopes.I think it is a good approach to
> group dependencies by their scopes, thus having parent tags for each scope
> like:
> >
> >
> >
> > …
> > …
> > …
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > …
> > …
> > …
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > …
> > …
> > …
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In this way you can organize better the dependencies and spot easily the
> different scopes.It also can help identify the runtime/compile/etc..
> production dependencies and separate them from testing ones, which can be
> less important in many cases.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time for reading this, and if this approach can be
> feasible,
> > I can be reached at the following email address dikugabri...@yahoo.com
> for more details.
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
>
>
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Re: Suggestions for improvements of current maven version

2019-11-28 Thread Robert Scholte
As mentioned by Elliotte this won't fit in the current pom model version. 
And it will effect dependency resolution. The current order of dependencies in 
the pom reflects the order on the classpath. 
As long as there are no duplicate classes you should be fine, but the real 
world shows us differently.
So with any proposal to regroup dependencies, people should be able to control 
the final order.

thanks,
Robert
On 28-11-2019 14:14:49, Elliotte Rusty Harold  wrote:
It's not a bad idea if we were starting from a green field. I'm not
sure how the broader community would feel about changing the structure
of the pom.xml file at this point. These things are very broadly used,
and my gut is that the small improvement would not justify the pain of
the transition.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 5:37 PM diku gabriell
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is Gabriel Dicu.I am currently working with apache maven and I’d like 
> to make a suggestion about improving maven dependency structure.In my 
> opinion, dependencies should be organized better, because is difficult to 
> spot dependencies for different scopes.I think it is a good approach to group 
> dependencies by their scopes, thus having parent tags for each scope like:
>
>
>
> …
> …
> …
>
>
>
>
>
> …
> …
> …
>
>
>
>
> …
> …
> …
>
>
>
>
> In this way you can organize better the dependencies and spot easily the 
> different scopes.It also can help identify the runtime/compile/etc.. 
> production dependencies and separate them from testing ones, which can be 
> less important in many cases.
>
> Thanks for taking the time for reading this, and if this approach can be 
> feasible,
> I can be reached at the following email address dikugabri...@yahoo.com for 
> more details.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>


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Re: Suggestions for improvements of current maven version

2019-11-28 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
It's not a bad idea if we were starting from a green field. I'm not
sure how the broader community would feel about changing the structure
of the pom.xml file at this point. These things are very broadly used,
and my gut is that the small improvement would not justify the pain of
the transition.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 5:37 PM diku gabriell
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is Gabriel Dicu.I am currently working with apache maven and I’d like 
> to make a suggestion about improving maven dependency structure.In my 
> opinion, dependencies should be organized better, because is difficult to 
> spot dependencies for different scopes.I think it is a good approach to group 
> dependencies by their scopes, thus having parent tags for each scope like:
> 
> 
>
> …
> …
> …
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> …
> …
> …
>
> 
> 
> 
> …
> …
> …
>
>  
> 
>
> In this way you can organize better the dependencies and spot easily the 
> different scopes.It also can help identify the runtime/compile/etc..  
> production dependencies and separate them from testing ones, which can be 
> less important in many cases.
>
> Thanks for taking the time for reading this, and if this approach can be 
> feasible,
> I can be reached at the following email address dikugabri...@yahoo.com for 
> more details.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>


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Re: Suggestions for improvements of current maven version

2019-11-27 Thread Paul Hammant
Great suggestion

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:37 PM diku gabriell
 wrote:

> Hello,
>
> My name is Gabriel Dicu.I am currently working with apache maven and I’d
> like to make a suggestion about improving maven dependency structure.In my
> opinion, dependencies should be organized better, because is difficult to
> spot dependencies for different scopes.I think it is a good approach to
> group dependencies by their scopes, thus having parent tags for each scope
> like:
> 
> 
>
> …
> …
> …
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> …
> …
> …
>
> 
> 
> 
> …
> …
> …
>
>  
> 
>
> In this way you can organize better the dependencies and spot easily the
> different scopes.It also can help identify the runtime/compile/etc..
> production dependencies and separate them from testing ones, which can be
> less important in many cases.
>
> Thanks for taking the time for reading this, and if this approach can be
> feasible,
> I can be reached at the following email address dikugabri...@yahoo.com
> for more details.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>


Suggestions for improvements of current maven version

2019-11-27 Thread diku gabriell
Hello,

My name is Gabriel Dicu.I am currently working with apache maven and I’d like 
to make a suggestion about improving maven dependency structure.In my opinion, 
dependencies should be organized better, because is difficult to spot 
dependencies for different scopes.I think it is a good approach to group 
dependencies by their scopes, thus having parent tags for each scope like:


   
…
…
…
   




…
…
…
   



…
…
…
   
 


In this way you can organize better the dependencies and spot easily the 
different scopes.It also can help identify the runtime/compile/etc..  
production dependencies and separate them from testing ones, which can be less 
important in many cases.

Thanks for taking the time for reading this, and if this approach can be 
feasible,
I can be reached at the following email address dikugabri...@yahoo.com for more 
details.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



Suggestions for improvements of current maven version

2019-11-27 Thread diku gabriell
Hello,

My name is Gabriel Dicu.I am currently working with apache maven and I’d like 
to make a suggestion about improving maven dependency structure.In my opinion, 
dependencies should be organized better, because is difficult to spot 
dependencies for different scopes.I think it is a good approach to group 
dependencies by their scopes, thus having parent tags for each scope like:


   
…
…
…
   




…
…
…
   



…
…
…
   
 


In this way you can organize better the dependencies and spot easily the 
different scopes.It also can help identify the runtime/compile/etc..  
production dependencies and separate them from testing ones, which can be less 
important in many cases.

Thanks for taking the time for reading this, and if this approach can be 
feasible,
I can be reached at the following email address dikugabri...@yahoo.com for more 
details.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10