Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
Sebb,

I think that you are pointing at the dilemma at the center of this.

Anything like this that we put into the top pom is inherited unless
overriden, and people are skittish about accidently making everything
part of the Maven project.

Where would you propose that we put a link to that it would help?

-benson


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:40 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 May I make a plea for the ASF POM to include a link to the
 documentation in the comments?

 Also, maybe someone can fix the very long comment line starting with:

 As of Version 6, 

 The description could be wrapped as well.

 On 27 June 2011 21:42, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 It occurs to me that the main pom could include a profile to run the
 site pom via the invoker.

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:
 option 1 seems to be controversial

 option 2, with site-pom.xml as suggested by Jörg, with specific 
 siteDirectory
 site plugin configuration (to avoid site.xml problem like pom.xml), seems
 pretty good

 option 3, [1], doesn't seem accessible in the short term

 any objection to go with option 2?

 Regards,

 Hervé


 [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-
 dev/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTim7idTDmg=_kx3h1bsmdnqbxk4...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 Le lundi 27 juin 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit :
 Option 1: go ahead and put a full configuration in this POM, and then
 make sure that all of the things that use it really do over-ride it.

 Option 2: Give it a parent or child: create a project with a site just
 to document and aggregate this, with enough SEO to catch googles.

 Option 3: take up my elaborate suggestion in the mixin thread.

 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 wrote:
  Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
 
  sharing a few thoughts:
  1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
  without tainting the pom
 
  2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory
 
  3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site
  is that we can configure project information specifically (issue
  tracking especially), create dedicated menu
 
  any thought?
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/
 
  [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/
 
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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-28 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
done [1]
site deployed [2]

any comments appreciated to continue to improve the documentation

Regards,

Hervé

[1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/asf/pom.xml?view=markup

[2] http://maven.apache.org/pom/asf/


Le mardi 28 juin 2011, sebb a écrit :
 May I make a plea for the ASF POM to include a link to the
 documentation in the comments?
 
 Also, maybe someone can fix the very long comment line starting with:
 
 As of Version 6, 
 
 The description could be wrapped as well.
 
 On 27 June 2011 21:42, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
  It occurs to me that the main pom could include a profile to run the
  site pom via the invoker.
  
  On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr 
wrote:
  option 1 seems to be controversial
  
  option 2, with site-pom.xml as suggested by Jörg, with specific
  siteDirectory site plugin configuration (to avoid site.xml problem like
  pom.xml), seems pretty good
  
  option 3, [1], doesn't seem accessible in the short term
  
  any objection to go with option 2?
  
  Regards,
  
  Hervé
  
  
  [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-
  dev/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTim7idTDmg=_kx3h1bsmdnqbxk4...@mail.gmail.com%3E
  
  Le lundi 27 juin 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit :
  Option 1: go ahead and put a full configuration in this POM, and then
  make sure that all of the things that use it really do over-ride it.
  
  Option 2: Give it a parent or child: create a project with a site just
  to document and aggregate this, with enough SEO to catch googles.
  
  Option 3: take up my elaborate suggestion in the mixin thread.
  
  On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
  
  wrote:
   Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
   
   sharing a few thoughts:
   1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication
   done without tainting the pom
   
   2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory
   
   3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven
   site is that we can configure project information specifically
   (issue tracking especially), create dedicated menu
   
   any thought?
   
   Regards,
   
   Hervé
   
   [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/
   
   [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/
   
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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-28 Thread sebb
On 28 June 2011 15:40, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sebb,

 I think that you are pointing at the dilemma at the center of this.

 Anything like this that we put into the top pom is inherited unless
 overriden, and people are skittish about accidently making everything
 part of the Maven project.

 Where would you propose that we put a link to that it would help?

In a comment near the top of the file.

 -benson


 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:40 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 May I make a plea for the ASF POM to include a link to the
 documentation in the comments?

 Also, maybe someone can fix the very long comment line starting with:

 As of Version 6, 

 The description could be wrapped as well.

 On 27 June 2011 21:42, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 It occurs to me that the main pom could include a profile to run the
 site pom via the invoker.

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr 
 wrote:
 option 1 seems to be controversial

 option 2, with site-pom.xml as suggested by Jörg, with specific 
 siteDirectory
 site plugin configuration (to avoid site.xml problem like pom.xml), seems
 pretty good

 option 3, [1], doesn't seem accessible in the short term

 any objection to go with option 2?

 Regards,

 Hervé


 [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-
 dev/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTim7idTDmg=_kx3h1bsmdnqbxk4...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 Le lundi 27 juin 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit :
 Option 1: go ahead and put a full configuration in this POM, and then
 make sure that all of the things that use it really do over-ride it.

 Option 2: Give it a parent or child: create a project with a site just
 to document and aggregate this, with enough SEO to catch googles.

 Option 3: take up my elaborate suggestion in the mixin thread.

 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 wrote:
  Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
 
  sharing a few thoughts:
  1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
  without tainting the pom
 
  2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory
 
  3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site
  is that we can configure project information specifically (issue
  tracking especially), create dedicated menu
 
  any thought?
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/
 
  [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/
 
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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-27 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Hervé,

Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:

 Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
 sharing a few thoughts:
 1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
 without tainting the pom

Just an idea: Use a separate pom file with the proper site settings in the 
same directory and declare the ASF pom as parent. Deploy the site docs 
separately then with:

mvn -f site-pom.xml site site:deploy


 2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory
 
 3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site is
 that we can configure project information specifically (issue tracking
 especially), create dedicated menu
 
 any thought?
 
 Regards,
 
 Hervé
 
 [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/
 
 [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/



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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-27 Thread Benson Margulies
OK, call that '2(c)' from my list.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Jörg Schaible
joerg.schai...@scalaris.com wrote:
 Hi Hervé,

 Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:

 Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
 sharing a few thoughts:
 1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
 without tainting the pom

 Just an idea: Use a separate pom file with the proper site settings in the
 same directory and declare the ASF pom as parent. Deploy the site docs
 separately then with:

 mvn -f site-pom.xml site site:deploy


 2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory

 3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site is
 that we can configure project information specifically (issue tracking
 especially), create dedicated menu

 any thought?

 Regards,

 Hervé

 [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/

 [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/



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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-27 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
option 1 seems to be controversial

option 2, with site-pom.xml as suggested by Jörg, with specific siteDirectory 
site plugin configuration (to avoid site.xml problem like pom.xml), seems 
pretty good

option 3, [1], doesn't seem accessible in the short term

any objection to go with option 2?

Regards,

Hervé


[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-
dev/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTim7idTDmg=_kx3h1bsmdnqbxk4...@mail.gmail.com%3E

Le lundi 27 juin 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit :
 Option 1: go ahead and put a full configuration in this POM, and then
 make sure that all of the things that use it really do over-ride it.
 
 Option 2: Give it a parent or child: create a project with a site just
 to document and aggregate this, with enough SEO to catch googles.
 
 Option 3: take up my elaborate suggestion in the mixin thread.
 
 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr 
wrote:
  Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
  
  sharing a few thoughts:
  1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
  without tainting the pom
  
  2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory
  
  3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site
  is that we can configure project information specifically (issue
  tracking especially), create dedicated menu
  
  any thought?
  
  Regards,
  
  Hervé
  
  [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/
  
  [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/
  
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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-27 Thread Benson Margulies
None here.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:
 option 1 seems to be controversial

 option 2, with site-pom.xml as suggested by Jörg, with specific siteDirectory
 site plugin configuration (to avoid site.xml problem like pom.xml), seems
 pretty good

 option 3, [1], doesn't seem accessible in the short term

 any objection to go with option 2?

 Regards,

 Hervé


 [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-
 dev/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTim7idTDmg=_kx3h1bsmdnqbxk4...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 Le lundi 27 juin 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit :
 Option 1: go ahead and put a full configuration in this POM, and then
 make sure that all of the things that use it really do over-ride it.

 Option 2: Give it a parent or child: create a project with a site just
 to document and aggregate this, with enough SEO to catch googles.

 Option 3: take up my elaborate suggestion in the mixin thread.

 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 wrote:
  Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
 
  sharing a few thoughts:
  1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
  without tainting the pom
 
  2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory
 
  3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site
  is that we can configure project information specifically (issue
  tracking especially), create dedicated menu
 
  any thought?
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/
 
  [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/
 
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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-27 Thread Benson Margulies
It occurs to me that the main pom could include a profile to run the
site pom via the invoker.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:
 option 1 seems to be controversial

 option 2, with site-pom.xml as suggested by Jörg, with specific siteDirectory
 site plugin configuration (to avoid site.xml problem like pom.xml), seems
 pretty good

 option 3, [1], doesn't seem accessible in the short term

 any objection to go with option 2?

 Regards,

 Hervé


 [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-
 dev/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTim7idTDmg=_kx3h1bsmdnqbxk4...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 Le lundi 27 juin 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit :
 Option 1: go ahead and put a full configuration in this POM, and then
 make sure that all of the things that use it really do over-ride it.

 Option 2: Give it a parent or child: create a project with a site just
 to document and aggregate this, with enough SEO to catch googles.

 Option 3: take up my elaborate suggestion in the mixin thread.

 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 wrote:
  Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
 
  sharing a few thoughts:
  1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
  without tainting the pom
 
  2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory
 
  3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site
  is that we can configure project information specifically (issue
  tracking especially), create dedicated menu
 
  any thought?
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/
 
  [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/
 
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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-27 Thread sebb
May I make a plea for the ASF POM to include a link to the
documentation in the comments?

Also, maybe someone can fix the very long comment line starting with:

As of Version 6, 

The description could be wrapped as well.

On 27 June 2011 21:42, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 It occurs to me that the main pom could include a profile to run the
 site pom via the invoker.

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:
 option 1 seems to be controversial

 option 2, with site-pom.xml as suggested by Jörg, with specific siteDirectory
 site plugin configuration (to avoid site.xml problem like pom.xml), seems
 pretty good

 option 3, [1], doesn't seem accessible in the short term

 any objection to go with option 2?

 Regards,

 Hervé


 [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-
 dev/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTim7idTDmg=_kx3h1bsmdnqbxk4...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 Le lundi 27 juin 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit :
 Option 1: go ahead and put a full configuration in this POM, and then
 make sure that all of the things that use it really do over-ride it.

 Option 2: Give it a parent or child: create a project with a site just
 to document and aggregate this, with enough SEO to catch googles.

 Option 3: take up my elaborate suggestion in the mixin thread.

 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 wrote:
  Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
 
  sharing a few thoughts:
  1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
  without tainting the pom
 
  2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory
 
  3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site
  is that we can configure project information specifically (issue
  tracking especially), create dedicated menu
 
  any thought?
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/
 
  [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/
 
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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-26 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
 Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
sharing a few thoughts:
1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done 
without tainting the pom

2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory

3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site is that 
we can configure project information specifically (issue tracking especially), 
create dedicated menu

any thought?

Regards,

Hervé

[1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/

[2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/

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Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-26 Thread Benson Margulies
Option 1: go ahead and put a full configuration in this POM, and then
make sure that all of the things that use it really do over-ride it.

Option 2: Give it a parent or child: create a project with a site just
to document and aggregate this, with enough SEO to catch googles.

Option 3: take up my elaborate suggestion in the mixin thread.


On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:
 Now the question is: where do we put ASF pom documentation?
 sharing a few thoughts:
 1. in the project itself? need to find a way to get its publication done
 without tainting the pom

 2. in the Maven site [1], in a dedicated directory

 3. at the top of pom svn [2]: the main difference I see from Maven site is 
 that
 we can configure project information specifically (issue tracking especially),
 create dedicated menu

 any thought?

 Regards,

 Hervé

 [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/

 [2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/

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