Re: Status of METRON-153

[Otto Fowler]

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65144361

This was broken when the rpm builds were introduced ( docker in docker no
no ).
This should work now ( i can indeed build the rpms etc and run ansible
inside of docker now with METRON-857 landed ) with
centos 6x ( although I have not tried it since my testing cluster is centos
7 right now ).




On April 25, 2017 at 13:30:02, Michael Miklavcic (
michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote:

We didn't come up with another approach Otto. I closed the PR at the time
bc I didn't think we wanted to break with Centos 6 yet, and my PR probably
would have done so. Can you elaborate on "prior capability wrt centos 6.x
work again" a bit?

On Apr 25, 2017 10:59 AM, "Otto Fowler"  wrote:

> Also, I can’t find any list discussion of the issue or other approaches.
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 12:48:46, Otto Fowler (ottobackwa...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> What I am looking for is the prior capability wrt centos 6.x work again (
> which I think my
> pr fixing the docker in docker issue would do ), and have it extended to
> work with 7.x.
>
> I don’t think re-writing all the stuff that is in metron roles is very
> attractive.
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 12:10:47, David Lyle (dlyle65...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> So, the current Ansible deployment actually does use blueprints. It
> constructs them from one of small_cluster.yml or single_node_vm.yml using
> the ambari_custer_state module.
>
> Ambari blueprints [1] and the Ambari Install Wizard are actually two
> separate things that are only related because both are available via
> Ambari.
>
> Currently, you should be able to create a blueprint and instantiate a
> cluster on Centos7 without using Ansible at all, though if you wished to,
> you could realize your blueprint in the same way that small_cluster and
> single_node_vm do, or alternatively create some Ansible roles to make the
> REST calls that Ambari requires to stand up a cluster.
>
> -D...
>
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AMBARI/Blueprints
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
>
> > Let me clarify, that this is support for automated blueprint deployment
> > with ansible, not the ambari wizard.
> >
> >
> >
> > On April 25, 2017 at 11:31:37, zeo...@gmail.com (zeo...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
> >
> > Just tagging on here to indicate my interest in this - in order to have
> > someone other than me manage the OSs in my Metron cluster, I must run
on
> > RHEL 7. I assume that will be common across many enterprises.
> > Semi-recentlyI took a stab at CentOS 7 support but it was a bit of a
> rough
> > go and I dropped it down on my priority list.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Otto Fowler 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153
> > >
> > > What is the other approach that is mentioned here? Was it
implemented?
> > > The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of
> > looking
> > > at it.
> > >
> > --
> >
> > Jon
> >
>

Re: Status of METRON-153

[Matt Foley]

FWIW, we know that several of the changes in the (recently committed)
METRON-634 Mpack bug fixes and improvements, not impacting Ambari 
database (PR#532)
are necessary for a smooth install on Centos7.  These changes are for the 
manual install wizard, but all the non-“description” changes would be needed in 
the blueprint also.  And for that matter the “description” changes may be 
desirable for post-install config management.

Thanks,
--Matt

On 4/25/17, 10:29 AM, "Michael Miklavcic"  wrote:

We didn't come up with another approach Otto. I closed the PR at the time
bc I didn't think we wanted to break with Centos 6 yet, and my PR probably
would have done so. Can you elaborate on "prior capability wrt centos 6.x
work again" a bit?

On Apr 25, 2017 10:59 AM, "Otto Fowler"  wrote:

> Also, I can’t find any list discussion of the issue or other approaches.
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 12:48:46, Otto Fowler (ottobackwa...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> What I am looking for is the prior capability wrt centos 6.x work again (
> which I think my
> pr fixing the docker in docker issue would do ), and have it extended to
> work with 7.x.
>
> I don’t think re-writing all the stuff that is in metron roles is very
> attractive.
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 12:10:47, David Lyle (dlyle65...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> So, the current Ansible deployment actually does use blueprints. It
> constructs them from one of small_cluster.yml or single_node_vm.yml using
> the ambari_custer_state module.
>
> Ambari blueprints [1] and the Ambari Install Wizard are actually two
> separate things that are only related because both are available via
> Ambari.
>
> Currently, you should be able to create a blueprint and instantiate a
> cluster on Centos7 without using Ansible at all, though if you wished to,
> you could realize your blueprint in the same way that small_cluster and
> single_node_vm do, or alternatively create some Ansible roles to make the
> REST calls that Ambari requires to stand up a cluster.
>
> -D...
>
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AMBARI/Blueprints
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
>
> > Let me clarify, that this is support for automated blueprint deployment
> > with ansible, not the ambari wizard.
> >
> >
> >
> > On April 25, 2017 at 11:31:37, zeo...@gmail.com (zeo...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
> >
> > Just tagging on here to indicate my interest in this - in order to have
> > someone other than me manage the OSs in my Metron cluster, I must run on
> > RHEL 7. I assume that will be common across many enterprises.
> > Semi-recentlyI took a stab at CentOS 7 support but it was a bit of a
> rough
> > go and I dropped it down on my priority list.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Otto Fowler 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153
> > >
> > > What is the other approach that is mentioned here? Was it implemented?
> > > The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of
> > looking
> > > at it.
> > >
> > --
> >
> > Jon
> >
>

Re: Status of METRON-153

[Michael Miklavcic]

We didn't come up with another approach Otto. I closed the PR at the time
bc I didn't think we wanted to break with Centos 6 yet, and my PR probably
would have done so. Can you elaborate on "prior capability wrt centos 6.x
work again" a bit?

On Apr 25, 2017 10:59 AM, "Otto Fowler"  wrote:

> Also, I can’t find any list discussion of the issue or other approaches.
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 12:48:46, Otto Fowler (ottobackwa...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> What I am looking for is the prior capability wrt centos 6.x work again (
> which I think my
> pr fixing the docker in docker issue would do ), and have it extended to
> work with 7.x.
>
> I don’t think re-writing all the stuff that is in metron roles is very
> attractive.
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 12:10:47, David Lyle (dlyle65...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> So, the current Ansible deployment actually does use blueprints. It
> constructs them from one of small_cluster.yml or single_node_vm.yml using
> the ambari_custer_state module.
>
> Ambari blueprints [1] and the Ambari Install Wizard are actually two
> separate things that are only related because both are available via
> Ambari.
>
> Currently, you should be able to create a blueprint and instantiate a
> cluster on Centos7 without using Ansible at all, though if you wished to,
> you could realize your blueprint in the same way that small_cluster and
> single_node_vm do, or alternatively create some Ansible roles to make the
> REST calls that Ambari requires to stand up a cluster.
>
> -D...
>
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AMBARI/Blueprints
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
>
> > Let me clarify, that this is support for automated blueprint deployment
> > with ansible, not the ambari wizard.
> >
> >
> >
> > On April 25, 2017 at 11:31:37, zeo...@gmail.com (zeo...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
> >
> > Just tagging on here to indicate my interest in this - in order to have
> > someone other than me manage the OSs in my Metron cluster, I must run on
> > RHEL 7. I assume that will be common across many enterprises.
> > Semi-recentlyI took a stab at CentOS 7 support but it was a bit of a
> rough
> > go and I dropped it down on my priority list.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Otto Fowler 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153
> > >
> > > What is the other approach that is mentioned here? Was it implemented?
> > > The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of
> > looking
> > > at it.
> > >
> > --
> >
> > Jon
> >
>

Re: Status of METRON-153

[Otto Fowler]

Also, I can’t find any list discussion of the issue or other approaches.


On April 25, 2017 at 12:48:46, Otto Fowler (ottobackwa...@gmail.com) wrote:

What I am looking for is the prior capability wrt centos 6.x work again (
which I think my
pr fixing the docker in docker issue would do ), and have it extended to
work with 7.x.

I don’t think re-writing all the stuff that is in metron roles is very
attractive.


On April 25, 2017 at 12:10:47, David Lyle (dlyle65...@gmail.com) wrote:

So, the current Ansible deployment actually does use blueprints. It
constructs them from one of small_cluster.yml or single_node_vm.yml using
the ambari_custer_state module.

Ambari blueprints [1] and the Ambari Install Wizard are actually two
separate things that are only related because both are available via
Ambari.

Currently, you should be able to create a blueprint and instantiate a
cluster on Centos7 without using Ansible at all, though if you wished to,
you could realize your blueprint in the same way that small_cluster and
single_node_vm do, or alternatively create some Ansible roles to make the
REST calls that Ambari requires to stand up a cluster.

-D...


[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AMBARI/Blueprints

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Otto Fowler 
wrote:

> Let me clarify, that this is support for automated blueprint deployment
> with ansible, not the ambari wizard.
>
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 11:31:37, zeo...@gmail.com (zeo...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Just tagging on here to indicate my interest in this - in order to have
> someone other than me manage the OSs in my Metron cluster, I must run on
> RHEL 7. I assume that will be common across many enterprises.
> Semi-recentlyI took a stab at CentOS 7 support but it was a bit of a rough
> go and I dropped it down on my priority list.
>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
>
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153
> >
> > What is the other approach that is mentioned here? Was it implemented?
> > The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of
> looking
> > at it.
> >
> --
>
> Jon
>

Re: Status of METRON-153

[Otto Fowler]

What I am looking for is the prior capability wrt centos 6.x work again (
which I think my
pr fixing the docker in docker issue would do ), and have it extended to
work with 7.x.

I don’t think re-writing all the stuff that is in metron roles is very
attractive.


On April 25, 2017 at 12:10:47, David Lyle (dlyle65...@gmail.com) wrote:

So, the current Ansible deployment actually does use blueprints. It
constructs them from one of small_cluster.yml or single_node_vm.yml using
the ambari_custer_state module.

Ambari blueprints [1] and the Ambari Install Wizard are actually two
separate things that are only related because both are available via
Ambari.

Currently, you should be able to create a blueprint and instantiate a
cluster on Centos7 without using Ansible at all, though if you wished to,
you could realize your blueprint in the same way that small_cluster and
single_node_vm do, or alternatively create some Ansible roles to make the
REST calls that Ambari requires to stand up a cluster.

-D...


[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AMBARI/Blueprints

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Otto Fowler 
wrote:

> Let me clarify, that this is support for automated blueprint deployment
> with ansible, not the ambari wizard.
>
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 11:31:37, zeo...@gmail.com (zeo...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Just tagging on here to indicate my interest in this - in order to have
> someone other than me manage the OSs in my Metron cluster, I must run on
> RHEL 7. I assume that will be common across many enterprises.
> Semi-recentlyI took a stab at CentOS 7 support but it was a bit of a
rough
> go and I dropped it down on my priority list.
>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
>
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153
> >
> > What is the other approach that is mentioned here? Was it implemented?
> > The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of
> looking
> > at it.
> >
> --
>
> Jon
>

Re: Status of METRON-153

[David Lyle]

So, the current Ansible deployment actually does use blueprints. It
constructs them from one of small_cluster.yml or single_node_vm.yml using
the ambari_custer_state module.

Ambari blueprints [1] and the Ambari Install Wizard are actually two
separate things that are only related because both are available via
Ambari.

Currently, you should be able to create a blueprint and instantiate a
cluster on Centos7 without using Ansible at all, though if you wished to,
you could realize your blueprint in the same way that small_cluster and
single_node_vm do, or alternatively create some Ansible roles to make the
REST calls that Ambari requires to stand up a cluster.

-D...


[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AMBARI/Blueprints

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Otto Fowler 
wrote:

> Let me clarify, that this is support for automated blueprint deployment
> with ansible, not the ambari wizard.
>
>
>
> On April 25, 2017 at 11:31:37, zeo...@gmail.com (zeo...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Just tagging on here to indicate my interest in this - in order to have
> someone other than me manage the OSs in my Metron cluster, I must run on
> RHEL 7. I assume that will be common across many enterprises.
> Semi-recentlyI took a stab at CentOS 7 support but it was a bit of a rough
> go and I dropped it down on my priority list.
>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
>
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153
> >
> > What is the other approach that is mentioned here? Was it implemented?
> > The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of
> looking
> > at it.
> >
> --
>
> Jon
>

Re: Status of METRON-153

[Otto Fowler]

Let me clarify, that this is support for automated blueprint deployment
with ansible, not the ambari wizard.



On April 25, 2017 at 11:31:37, zeo...@gmail.com (zeo...@gmail.com) wrote:

Just tagging on here to indicate my interest in this - in order to have
someone other than me manage the OSs in my Metron cluster, I must run on
RHEL 7. I assume that will be common across many enterprises.
Semi-recentlyI took a stab at CentOS 7 support but it was a bit of a rough
go and I dropped it down on my priority list.

Jon

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Otto Fowler 
wrote:

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153
>
> What is the other approach that is mentioned here? Was it implemented?
> The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of
looking
> at it.
>
-- 

Jon

Re: Status of METRON-153

[zeo...@gmail.com]

Just tagging on here to indicate my interest in this - in order to have
someone other than me manage the OSs in my Metron cluster, I must run on
RHEL 7.  I assume that will be common across many enterprises.
Semi-recentlyI took a stab at CentOS 7 support but it was a bit of a rough
go and I dropped it down on my priority list.

Jon

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Otto Fowler 
wrote:

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153
>
> What is the other approach that is mentioned here?  Was it implemented?
> The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of looking
> at it.
>
-- 

Jon

Status of METRON-153

[Otto Fowler]

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-153

What is the other approach that is mentioned here?  Was it implemented?
The ansible build still does not support this and I was thinking of looking
at it.