Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
+1 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 20:58, Gerhard Petracek wrote: > hi, > > i was told that independent releases of the different subprojects wouldn't > be possible. > it seems that this information isn't correct. however, the much more > interesting part is that the constellation at trinidad is ok because these > parts belong together. that's not the case with myfaces extensions. since we > don't expect that much subprojects i think we should continue to have a jira > project for each extension project. > > furthermore, it would get a bit confusing to have one jira project and a lot > of components which don't belong together. > > if we keep the current structure, we have: > jira project: EXTVAL > component: Core > component: Property Validation > component: Bean Validation > component: Generic Support > component: Trinidad Support > > and e.g.: > jira project: EXTSCRIPT > component: Core > component: Groovy > component: [other scripting language] > > so it's a clear separation... if there are no major concerns about it, i > think we should keep it as it is. > > regards, > gerhard > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > 2009/8/14 Matthias Wessendorf >> >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Werner Punz >> wrote: >> > Werner Punz schrieb: >> >> >> >> Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed >> >> following. >> >> We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this >> >> regard. >> >> Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow >> >> blocked. >> >> >> >> Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions >> >> and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.? >> >> >> >> >> > Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the >> > release management. >> >> I think that in Trinidad it pretty much works well. We have plugin >> releases >> and core releases. With different release notes. Not sure what he means. >> Perhaps he could jump in ?! >> >> > >> > Anyway Manfred, Matthias, can anyone of you open an extensions-groovy >> > jira >> > subprojekt for me? >> > >> > Werner >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > >
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
+1 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Gerhard Petracek wrote: > hi, > > i was told that independent releases of the different subprojects wouldn't > be possible. > it seems that this information isn't correct. however, the much more > interesting part is that the constellation at trinidad is ok because these > parts belong together. that's not the case with myfaces extensions. since we > don't expect that much subprojects i think we should continue to have a jira > project for each extension project. > > furthermore, it would get a bit confusing to have one jira project and a lot > of components which don't belong together. > > if we keep the current structure, we have: > jira project: EXTVAL > component: Core > component: Property Validation > component: Bean Validation > component: Generic Support > component: Trinidad Support > > and e.g.: > jira project: EXTSCRIPT > component: Core > component: Groovy > component: [other scripting language] > > so it's a clear separation... if there are no major concerns about it, i > think we should keep it as it is. > > regards, > gerhard > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > 2009/8/14 Matthias Wessendorf >> >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Werner Punz >> wrote: >> > Werner Punz schrieb: >> >> >> >> Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed >> >> following. >> >> We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this >> >> regard. >> >> Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow >> >> blocked. >> >> >> >> Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions >> >> and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.? >> >> >> >> >> > Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the >> > release management. >> >> I think that in Trinidad it pretty much works well. We have plugin >> releases >> and core releases. With different release notes. Not sure what he means. >> Perhaps he could jump in ?! >> >> > >> > Anyway Manfred, Matthias, can anyone of you open an extensions-groovy >> > jira >> > subprojekt for me? >> > >> > Werner >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
hi, i was told that independent releases of the different subprojects wouldn't be possible. it seems that this information isn't correct. however, the much more interesting part is that the constellation at trinidad is ok because these parts belong together. that's not the case with myfaces extensions. since we don't expect that much subprojects i think we should continue to have a jira project for each extension project. furthermore, it would get a bit confusing to have one jira project and a lot of components which don't belong together. if we keep the current structure, we have: jira project: EXTVAL component: Core component: Property Validation component: Bean Validation component: Generic Support component: Trinidad Support and e.g.: jira project: EXTSCRIPT component: Core component: Groovy component: [other scripting language] so it's a clear separation... if there are no major concerns about it, i think we should keep it as it is. regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2009/8/14 Matthias Wessendorf > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Werner Punz > wrote: > > Werner Punz schrieb: > >> > >> Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed > following. > >> We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this > regard. > >> Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow > >> blocked. > >> > >> Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions > >> and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.? > >> > >> > > Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the > > release management. > > I think that in Trinidad it pretty much works well. We have plugin releases > and core releases. With different release notes. Not sure what he means. > Perhaps he could jump in ?! > > > > > Anyway Manfred, Matthias, can anyone of you open an extensions-groovy > jira > > subprojekt for me? > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Werner Punz wrote: > Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: > >> Just saw your vote - ok let's wait for the outcome before committing - >> to be safe. >> I think that the entire community has to (kinda) approve such a new >> subproject, >> so thanks for triggering the vote. >> > Jepp I thought so too so I took the freedom to open the vote without further > discussion, it does not hurt and a few days more who cares. > It took me a year of hiatus to pick up the work on it again, and to fulfill > my promises :-) > > >> On the JIRA: I don't care that much if we have a new jira project or >> just a new component >> under a generic extensions project. But it is not the case that >> release mgmt is not possible >> in such a _mixed_ env (-> Trinidad) >> > Gerhard will post later on the issue, he currently is too overloaded with > work so he cannot comment what the reason exactly was, yet. no worries - no need to rush; > > Werner > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: Just saw your vote - ok let's wait for the outcome before committing - to be safe. I think that the entire community has to (kinda) approve such a new subproject, so thanks for triggering the vote. Jepp I thought so too so I took the freedom to open the vote without further discussion, it does not hurt and a few days more who cares. It took me a year of hiatus to pick up the work on it again, and to fulfill my promises :-) On the JIRA: I don't care that much if we have a new jira project or just a new component under a generic extensions project. But it is not the case that release mgmt is not possible in such a _mixed_ env (-> Trinidad) Gerhard will post later on the issue, he currently is too overloaded with work so he cannot comment what the reason exactly was, yet. Werner
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Werner Punz wrote: > Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: >> >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Werner Punz >> wrote: >>> >>> Werner Punz schrieb: Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed following. We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this regard. Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow blocked. Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.? >>> Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the >>> release management. >> >> I think that in Trinidad it pretty much works well. We have plugin >> releases >> and core releases. With different release notes. Not sure what he means. >> Perhaps he could jump in ?! >> > Later, he is overloaded anyway, the question is submodules which means no > vote I assume, or subproject which means new vote. > In either case I dont think I can submit my code until all this is resolved. Just saw your vote - ok let's wait for the outcome before committing - to be safe. I think that the entire community has to (kinda) approve such a new subproject, so thanks for triggering the vote. On the JIRA: I don't care that much if we have a new jira project or just a new component under a generic extensions project. But it is not the case that release mgmt is not possible in such a _mixed_ env (-> Trinidad) -M > > Werner > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Werner Punz wrote: Werner Punz schrieb: Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed following. We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this regard. Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow blocked. Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.? Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the release management. I think that in Trinidad it pretty much works well. We have plugin releases and core releases. With different release notes. Not sure what he means. Perhaps he could jump in ?! Later, he is overloaded anyway, the question is submodules which means no vote I assume, or subproject which means new vote. In either case I dont think I can submit my code until all this is resolved. Werner
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Werner Punz wrote: > Werner Punz schrieb: >> >> Werner Punz schrieb: >> >>> Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the >>> release management. >>> >>> Anyway Manfred, Matthias, can anyone of you open an extensions-groovy >>> jira subprojekt for me? >>> >> Btw. I think we already have voted on the myfaces-groovy a year ago >> haven´t we. Do we need another vote? >> > Ok as it seems we have not voted on extensions scripting... I guess we have > to open a vote for it. in order to such a project under extensions ? Didn't we already talk about it on several threads ? Not sure if a vote is really needed - but to be safe, I think having one is not a big deal ;-) > > Werner > > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
Werner Punz schrieb: Werner Punz schrieb: Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the release management. Anyway Manfred, Matthias, can anyone of you open an extensions-groovy jira subprojekt for me? Btw. I think we already have voted on the myfaces-groovy a year ago haven´t we. Do we need another vote? Ok as it seems we have not voted on extensions scripting... I guess we have to open a vote for it. Werner
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Werner Punz wrote: > Werner Punz schrieb: >> >> Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed following. >> We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this regard. >> Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow >> blocked. >> >> Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions >> and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.? >> >> > Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the > release management. I think that in Trinidad it pretty much works well. We have plugin releases and core releases. With different release notes. Not sure what he means. Perhaps he could jump in ?! > > Anyway Manfred, Matthias, can anyone of you open an extensions-groovy jira > subprojekt for me? > > Werner > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
Werner Punz schrieb: Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the release management. Anyway Manfred, Matthias, can anyone of you open an extensions-groovy jira subprojekt for me? Btw. I think we already have voted on the myfaces-groovy a year ago haven´t we. Do we need another vote? Werner
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
Werner Punz schrieb: Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed following. We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this regard. Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow blocked. Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.? Ok Gerhard just gave me the explanation, it has something to do with the release management. Anyway Manfred, Matthias, can anyone of you open an extensions-groovy jira subprojekt for me? Werner
Re: jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Werner Punz wrote: > Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed following. > We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this regard. > Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow > blocked. > > Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions > and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.? yes, I think having an umbrella extensions JIRA project with different components makes sense. In Trinidad we have that as well: -core (components) -plugins (m2 stuff) -M > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
jira organisation question regarding myfaces-extensions
Hello everyone while I am preparing my initial commit I noticed following. We have a subproject for extension-extval but nothing more in this regard. Which means since I cannot open my own subproject in jira I am somehow blocked. Wouldnt it be better to have the project itself reside under extensions and then have different modules for extval, groovy etc.?
