Re: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 08:05:13 +0100, Toni Epple <toni.ep...@eppleton.de> wrote: But I‘d love to replace JavaFX WebView which is a 49mb Java 9 module with chromium content module, Which is about 40-50 mb and has better features. If we want HTML5 for Java UIS, I believe this is the way to go. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. "We make Java work. Everywhere." http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The Importance of Being Portable was: Think Java, not Electron!
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 23:45:13 +0100, cowwoc <cow...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote: That would be great. How/where do we petition for it? :) I doubt a petition would work, as I think this is a pondered management strategy rather than something due to lack of resources, but if somebody does it, count me in. Perhaps at change.org? -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. "We make Java work. Everywhere." http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The Importance of Being Portable was: Think Java, not Electron!
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:25:36 +0100, Matthias Bläsing <mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu> wrote: Hi, the one thing, that annoys the hell out of me with HTML based GUIs is, that everybody reinvents everything, everytime. Matthias, you don't know how much I agree with your statement. And I know some major speakers around - also friend of mine - who think the same. This annoys me so much that sometimes I wonder whether I'd better change job. The problem is: the industry is literally intoxicated by this attitude, and I don't see we can do much to fight it. It is like that for a number of converging reasons, including the fact that, from a business point of view, it's like the classic "dig holes and then fill them", or "break windows and then fix them". Personally I've abandoned Swing time ago, but I find JavaFX pretty good. Now, unfortunately, I'm seeing even the latest "Asterix villages" that kept on developing rich client applications falling down and being pressured to move development of UIs to HTML5. In this perspective, I must say that Oracle's announce to drop JavaFX from the runtime and give it to the community, while it theoretically could be not a major problem for the survival of the technology, it's probably going to effectively kill it, because project managers will interpret the thing like an imminent death - JavaFX finding itself without a corporate sponsor. On my perspective, I can work as technology advocate, architect and supporting consultant for developers, but I'm not the typical professional figure that can influence project managers (who reason with different references than me) to the point of making their minds - and I believe many of us, unfortunately, are in the same bandwagon. So, I don't see a critical mass to change things. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. "We make Java work. Everywhere." http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Possible Removal of SVN
On Thu, 08 Mar 2018 20:11:14 +0100, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: +1 +1 As others, I have customers using it with some projects, and they will probably stay with SVN for those projects until they die... -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. "We make Java work. Everywhere." http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Could Oracle donate the beansbinding library too?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:06:43 +0100, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@protonmail.ch> wrote: This is a very old library from java.net, it's becoming hard even to find traces of it. See eg: https://web.archive.org/web/20070618134019/https://beansbinding.dev.java.net/ When it was dismissed, I forked it and worked on it, but only for a short time - because JavaFX2 came with its own binding stuff and then I moved to it. In any case, just for the record, you can find it here: https://bitbucket.org/tidalwave/betterbeansbinding-src/ Googling for "BetterBeansBinding" you'll find some forks here and there by people that maintained it (I don't know whether they are doing it still now, or gave up at some time). Of course, the problem with the licensing still holds, because I couldn't do but keeping the original LGPL. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. "We make Java work. Everywhere." http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it
Re: Ending the @netbeans.org mailing lists.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:17:47 +0100, Delfi Ramirez <del...@delfiramirez.info> wrote: +1 +1 -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. "We make Java work. Everywhere." http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it
