Re: Documentation Recruitment

2012-12-02 Thread Sylvain DENIS

+1

librement,

*Sylvain DENIS*
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Le 02/12/12 11:10, Guy Waterval a écrit :

Hi Louis,

I just wanted to say that the situation in which were Keith and Prabha was
not sustainable in the long term, they merit to be recognized for their
efforts and not to be frustrated. So, perhaps  a group here is a better way
to support the efforts in the documentation area. There is no attack
against odf authors. I just wanted to say that if you are favorable to the
creation of a doclist here, it's a good thing for us.
The reason to support an online doc under ALv2.0 is the necessity to have
an official documentation easy to update and allowing derivated works
(printed documentation, ebooks, ). So, such a documentation appears to
me as a priority and has to be absolutely supported, because we have
already an existing work and a competent team working on it.
But actually the great challenge seems to me how to help this team  in a
productive manner, avoiding that the help becomes a lost of time for them.




Re: An official Git-Mirror?

2012-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 30/11/2012 Herbert Duerr wrote:

It would all be much simpler if we had an official git-mirror [1] of our
svn-repository.


OK, this will also make contributing easier for the new developers who 
know only git, since they will be able to checkout (clone) only trunk, 
branches and tags and submit patches with git format-patch. So they 
won't need to learn (or endure, depending on the individual 
inclinations) SVN to help.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Forums and Wiki Scheduled to Reboot

2012-12-02 Thread RGB ES
2012/12/2 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw

 Dear all,

 The forums and wiki hosts are scheduled to reboot on 2012/12/3
 0:00am GMT+0, 21 hours from now.


Thanks, Imacat. I put a note on ES, EN and IT forums about this.

Regards
Ricardo





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Re: [User Docs] End of effort to get AOO v3.4 Getting Started Guide finished

2012-12-02 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

On 12/1/12, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote:

After 3 months of frustration it is time to end the effort to get The
Getting Started Guide that had been started for AOO 3.4 completed.
Despite repeated requests for help on the ODFAuthors list it is apparent
that either the Authors that had been working on Open Office docs are
either no longer interested or are working strictly on the LO books.

Alexandro Colorado made an attempt at getting the Base Guide done but
was not able to get any responses to his requests for comments on his
markups and changes and decided to put it on hold until he did. As far
as I know he is still waiting.


For the record I pause my contribution to Base based on real life
things I needed to take care of. However on the other side, I have
been succesfully mentoring students on contributing to the spanish
version of this guide. Have been releasing new chapters every other
day and hope to finish all the chapters and guide quite soon.

I descided to help on Base because I had some paid work on developing
courseware for a corporate training but the course got cancelled and
the funds with it. :(

Hopefully new opportunities will come and would be able to re-start my
involvement and bill my hours to the client.



One other volunteer stepped up from an inquiry on this list and gave
valuable help. Prabha again thank you very much for your work and I hope
that you will get involved with the defining of a new documentation
project.

With only 2 people actively working it is not possible to give the work
the quality review and editing that it deserves to have the Open Office
name attached to it.

Reluctantly unless someone with the requisite skills in technical
writing and publishing that I do not have can lend a hand I feel it is
best to end the effort and not waste anymore of anyone's time.

I will continue to contribute where I can, but that is difficult or
someone who is not a developer.

Regards
Keith N. McKenna








Alexandro;

My most sincere apologies for any unintended misrepresentation on my 
part. My comments were based on the last conversation that I had with 
you here on the list. You had stated then that you had the base efforts 
on hold waiting for feedback on your previous comments.


Again my apologies for my inadvertent misrepresentation. I wish you the 
best with your efforts on the Spanish versions.


Regards
Keith



Re: [QA] Python version late for MacOS

2012-12-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Thank you Tsutomu-san!

I am currently busy with other stuff but I am aware of what's needed in
our pyuno layer so I will examine your code soon.

Pedro.


- Original Message -
 From: Tsutomu Uchino
 
 Hi,
 
 2012/12/2, Pedro Giffuni :
  FWIW;
 
  After updating Python to 2.7.3 I started working on updating
  pyuno so that it works with Python3 and Python2. I didn't
  finish and I don't really have much time for that lately but
  I will be glad to point someone else in the right direction.
 
 I modified pyuno to support Python 3.3 with new functions added on 3.3.
 But it does not support Python from 3.0 to 3.2.
 If someone interested in it:
 https://github.com/hanya/pyuno3
 I will make a patch and attach to issue if required.
 
 -Tsutomu
 
  Adding support for Python3 in pyuno is important and people
  that make their own packages will need it but in general I would
  advice against doing the update to 3.x by default now. Let others
  deal with the migration issues first ;).
 
  Pedro.
 
 
  - Original Message -
 
  On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
 
   On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Andre Fischer
  wrote:
    On 30.11.2012 12:02, FR web forum wrote:
   
    In trunk we currently have version 2.7.3.  Would that 
 be OK?
   
    Python 2.7.3 is in end of life.
   
    It will be better to directly include Python 3.3.
    Compatibility for extensions will be more easy with 
 future LibO 4
  that
   use
    already this version.
   
   
    I thought that 2.x is incompatible from 3.x. Would existing 
 extensions
   still
    work with 3.3?
   
 
   Moving to 3.x would be an incompatible change.   But 2.7.x is on
   extended maintenance but no new features are being 
 done there.
 
   So the future is certainly with 3.x.  But we would need to 
 communicate
   very carefully with extension authors if we want to make this 
 move.
   We want to avoid this:
 
   1) AOO 4.0 comes out with broken extensions and unhappy users
 
   2) Extension authors have insufficient time to test with Python 
 3.x
   support, leading to 1
 
   3) Extension authors are not aware that we are switching to Python
   3.x, leading to 1
 
   So if we want to do this we would need to notify extension authors
   ASAP and give them a way to test their extensions with Python 
 3.x.  So
   maybe integrate the new Python early and have a developer preview
   version that they can test with?
 
 
   -Rob
 
    -Andre
   
 
 



Re: Documentation Recruitment (was: Please add me to The OpenOffice.org Documentation Project list)

2012-12-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

On 12-12-02, at 05:10 , Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Louis,
 
 I just wanted to say that the situation in which were Keith and Prabha was
 not sustainable in the long term, they merit to be recognized for their
 efforts and not to be frustrated. So, perhaps  a group here is a better way
 to support the efforts in the documentation area. There is no attack
 against odf authors. I just wanted to say that if you are favorable to the
 creation of a doclist here, it's a good thing for us.
 The reason to support an online doc under ALv2.0 is the necessity to have
 an official documentation easy to update and allowing derivated works
 (printed documentation, ebooks, ). So, such a documentation appears to
 me as a priority and has to be absolutely supported, because we have
 already an existing work and a competent team working on it.
 But actually the great challenge seems to me how to help this team  in a
 productive manner, avoiding that the help becomes a lost of time for them.

You seem to be misunderstanding what I am writing. But, not matter. I am not by 
any means nor have I ever been opposed to the establishment of what is being 
proposed here; quite the contrary.

Louis

 
 A+
 -- 
 gw
 
 2012/12/2 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com
 
 Hi Guy,
 
 On 12-12-01, at 19:35 , Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Louis,
 
 2012/12/1 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com
 
 Hi
 On 12-12-01, at 15:52 , Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A new doc mailing list is absolutely necessary. It could offer an
 alternative to the odf authors solution, as this group is the
 documentation
 area of LibreOffice. Even if people are totally correct there, we have
 to
 be realistic, the conditions are not good there for people working on
 an
 apache documentation project.
 
 From prior experience and also from current, I'd submit that a new list
 for this purpose is needed. I'd also see if former OO documentation
 writers
 want to participate. Of course, to hit my usual refrain, I'm also as
 always
 interested to learn if we can work with other implementations of ODF
 based
 on OO code.
 
 FWIW, when Sun was sponsoring OOo, the Doc project gained productive
 vigour under Frank Peters, of Sun/Oracle. He brought to bear his
 professional abilities. He also sought out non-Sun/Oracle community
 members. It was a good, multilingual project. Clayton worked with him
 on it.
 
 
 Happy to see that you support the creation of a doclist. By the way, it's
 not my intention to criticize the work accomplished by Keith and Prabha
 on
 the odf authors website. My personal preference is also definitly a
 printed
 documentation, but I think that an online doc under ALV2.0 is obligatory,
 we have no choice, and if we support and help the team of Ricardo, we
 have
 a real chance to get it. If we had a dedicated list for the
 documentation,
 it would be also more easy to support a printed variant with people who
 as
 me are interested by this way.
 
 A+
 --
 gw
 
 
 
 
 I think you are responding to things I did not write nor intend. My fault.
 Let me clarify….
 
 First, my connection with OOo and the documentation project, which I
 initiated with Scott Carr back in 2002, giving it to him upon his request,
 is of long standing. Second, I quite support the current license regime and
 structure. My point about former doc. writers was not to reach out to
 Authors; I actually had not considered that construal. I did not really
 think of them as being part of the Documentation project in the same way
 that Frank was, or earlier, Scott—or as many others were. But of course,
 I'm an idiot, as there were many who very happily worked with Authors, and
 they had by far the greater shine, so I can see where you are coming from.
 However….
 
 Neither Frank nor Clayton had anything to do with Authors group; nor did
 I. In fact, I had a long historical friction with them for reasons of
 license and approach. But that's ancient history and in the sum, I was
 happier to see them contribute and to add to the OOo ecosystem; so was
 Frank and so was, I believe, Clayton. The Authors group did not include
 anyone from Sun or Oracle. But again, this is ancient history best left
 done.
 
 Frank was quite committed to online work, too, and there was, in fact, a
 lot of done by Oracle under his leadership. It's Oracle property. I asked
 when AOO was just newborn—last year—if Oracle, my former employer, would
 have those files available for us. My hope was that as the work was
 proprietary and owned by Oracle, it might be made open and donated to the
 OO community. Or bought. But nothing came of that entreaty.
 
 Louis



Re: Sidebar

2012-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 30/11/2012 Andre Fischer wrote:

I will be working on the implementation of the
sidebar. In the hope of motivating others (you) to join me, I have
created a wiki page that gives a first and rough outline of the work
that has to be done and the API and code that already exists and
(hopefully) can be reused or adapted:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar


Thanks Andre, it seems that tasks are still very broad, so I guess that 
this call is mainly aimed at existing or full-time developers, but if 
you identify small self-contained tasks where new developers could be 
involved please advertise them, since they might be useful in a future 
call for developers or for FOSDEM.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: L10n tools is no longer needed.

2012-12-02 Thread janI
thanks rob for clarifying it.

It just shows how wrong my thought were, but I have been searching to find
documentation on the split, reasons why, person conflicts etc...that seems
buried quite deep (maybe for good reasons), and the IBM approach to LO also
seems quite hard to find, so please understand why  I had the impression
that we are more talking than doing.

Being new, it is really hard to understand, and asking people from LO, just
gives the answer that they want to be independent of companies.

I just want to do my job, and make it available to as many as possible...so
now I will continue with a little AOO project that I have defined.

Jan.



On 2 December 2012 16:03, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:02 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  On 1 December 2012 18:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On 28/11/2012 janI wrote:
 
  I have had a look, and the tool does with a few exceptions, what
 genLang
  was supposed to do. There are no reason to make parallel developments
 so
  the l10n development has been stopped.
 
 
  Reading the description it seems it can be used as a basis to improve
 the
  Apache OpenOffice localization process too. As others already pointed
 out
  in this discussion, there are some good arguments for making a
 stand-alone
  project out of this tool, and this seems a reasonable solution.
 
   Would it not be a wonderful world, if openSource was truly open and we
  could share ... why are we
 
  as volunteers not trying harder to reach that goal.
 
 
  How much harder? I think it's hard to try harder. Three recent examples,
  all coming from the official Apache blog or consensus on mailing lists:
 
  - our FOSDEM offer to share a devroom:
  http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-**
  dev/201210.mbox/%3C50904023.**6050...@apache.org%3E
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201210.mbox/%3c50904023.6050...@apache.org%3E
 
 
  - my ApacheCon presentation
  http://s.apache.org/**openoffice-aceu2012-day-1
 http://s.apache.org/openoffice-aceu2012-day-1
 
  - code contributions Apache OpenOffice is making to LibreOffice
  https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/**entry/good_news_libreoffice_**
  is_integrating
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating
 
  So the Apache OpenOffice side did show willingness to cooperate. But
  cooperation needs willingness on both sides.
 
 
  When you say FOSDEM...did anyone actually talk with LO, or did we just
  offer it to FOSDEM ?
 
  Your presentation was very nice and open but it is far to easy, to sit
 down
  and say we have said we are willing to cooperate, actually you can hear
  the same kind of voices from LO.
 
  About contributions,  I must have written something wrong...
  - to me it is a problem when we take/deliver code from each other, that
 is
  not sharing, that is copying, and do not help  with bug fixes,
  translatations etc.. But I still think that developers developing for
 both
  LO and AOO are one a right track.
  - We cannot take anything from LO, due to the license problems. E.g. the
  l10ntools. If we could agree on a common codebase we could really share.
 
 
 
   If I were PMC I would have one high priority on my list
 
 
  I quite disagree on two points here:
 
  1) You seem to believe Apache OpenOffice is not seeing this as high
  priority, while I believe Apache OpenOffice is really the only active
 party
  in this discussion.
 
  you might be right, but to me it seems we are discussing more with
  ourselves than with LO. I might be completely wrong here, but until now I
  have not heard about any contact directly with LO about cooperation, code
  base etc.
 
  There might be some historical perspectives I do not know about at least
 it
  was implied to me.
 
 
  2) You imply that only PMC members can make a change. This is not true.
  Not being a committer may prevent a contributor from getting things
 done,
  but not being a PMC member does not prevent anyone from being heard or
  influential.
 
 
  I agree with you on that...my little contribution to the discussion has
 for
  sure got response and not only here.
 
  I try to move things on my scale...but let me put my PMC imply more
  directly...does any of the key persons (to me PMC) have a contact with
 LO,
  and if not has it been tried to make contact directly ? or are we just
  assuming LO do not want to cooperate, because they do not react.
 

 Yes.  I can say for example that we (IBM) have contacted the company
 that employees two TDF Directors, and in discussions that included
 their LibreOffice lead, offered to discuss ways of collaborating on
 code between LO and AOO.   Specifically we discussed ways of
 collaborating on interoperability and accessibility.  At first they
 said this could not be discussed, for political reasons, until AOO
 graduated.  I then pushed for us to graduate the very next day.  But
 now we're told that this collaboration is not 

FAQ page (Re: IPAD)

2012-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 26/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

[Can I install Openoffice on my IPAD?] I nominate this for an FAQ.


I agree. But where is our FAQ page currently? Unfortunately, there's an 
OpenOffice FAQ easily reachable by search engines at 
http://www.openoffice.org/faq.html and quite outdated (I don't know 
whether it's reachable from the home page, but it doesn't seem so).


Time to make a new FAQ available or update the old one and link to it 
from the current site?


Regards,
  Andrea.


AOO nominated for PortalProgramas awards

2012-12-02 Thread RGB ES
PortalProgramas is a Spanish site for free software and every year runs the
Premios PortalProgramas al software libre (PortalProgramas Awards for
Free Software). AOO is nominated on two categories, most popular free
software and essential for business

http://www.portalprogramas.com/software-libre/premios/proyecto/openoffice.org

The site users will vote from December the 6th.

Regards
Ricardo


Re: AOO nominated for PortalProgramas awards

2012-12-02 Thread janI
Small correction, as far as I can see on
http://www.portalprogramas.com/software-libre/premios
Nominations end december 17, and voting runs december 17 to december 31.

Everybody can nominate a free software, so it is not a selection.

BUT it is good that we are on the front page with a description !

(I will of course vote as december 17).
Jan I.



On 2 December 2012 20:59, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 PortalProgramas is a Spanish site for free software and every year runs the
 Premios PortalProgramas al software libre (PortalProgramas Awards for
 Free Software). AOO is nominated on two categories, most popular free
 software and essential for business


 http://www.portalprogramas.com/software-libre/premios/proyecto/openoffice.org

 The site users will vote from December the 6th.

 Regards
 Ricardo



Re: AOO nominated for PortalProgramas awards

2012-12-02 Thread janI
Well not all is mañana here in spain. People who are motivated get things
done :-)

and thanks for writing them, I still think in terms of openoffice.org.

Jan I.


On 2 December 2012 21:19, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/12/2 janI j...@apache.org

  Small correction, as far as I can see on
  http://www.portalprogramas.com/software-libre/premios
  Nominations end december 17, and voting runs december 17 to december 31.
 
  Everybody can nominate a free software, so it is not a selection.
 
  BUT it is good that we are on the front page with a description !
 
  (I will of course vote as december 17).
  Jan I.
 
 
 
  On 2 December 2012 20:59, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   PortalProgramas is a Spanish site for free software and every year runs
  the
   Premios PortalProgramas al software libre (PortalProgramas Awards for
   Free Software). AOO is nominated on two categories, most popular free
   software and essential for business
  
  
  
 
 http://www.portalprogramas.com/software-libre/premios/proyecto/openoffice.org
  
   The site users will vote from December the 6th.
  
   Regards
   Ricardo
  
 


 You are right, on one page it says 6th December but on the rest of the site
 the date is the 17th.

 The site admins are really accessible. There was a nomination for most
 popular software for OpenOffice.org so I wrote to them asking to correct
 the name and suggested to add the essential for business category and
 they answered on less than an hour: too fast for a Sunday evening!

 Regards
 Ricardo



Re: FAQ page (Re: IPAD)

2012-12-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 On 26/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

 [Can I install Openoffice on my IPAD?] I nominate this for an FAQ.


 I agree. But where is our FAQ page currently? Unfortunately, there's an
 OpenOffice FAQ easily reachable by search engines at
 http://www.openoffice.org/faq.html and quite outdated (I don't know whether
 it's reachable from the home page, but it doesn't seem so).

 Time to make a new FAQ available or update the old one and link to it from
 the current site?


The current location of the FAQ is prominent in search results.  That
is valuable and worth preserving.

But the current FAQ contents are out of date.  They would need a lot
of work to update/correct them.

Although the FAQ's are presented in a way that is OK for the user, the
static HTML source is structured in a way that will be painful to
maintain.   Getting a cleaner structure, for example using HTML
definition lists (dl) would be easier and could be maintained via
the CMS web interface.

There is another set of FAQ's on the documentation wiki:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ

These also appear to be unmaintained.  But I think the wiki version
would be easier to maintain.

So one possible resolution could be:

1) Take anything of use from the FAQ's at
http://www.openoffice.org/faq.html and copy them into new FAQ items on
the wiki

2) Update the other FAQ's on the wiki

3) Add new items to the wiki FAQ (like the iPAD question)

4) Delete the old FAQ directory and replace with a single page that
directs the reader to the wiki FAQ's.


-Rob
-Rob

 Regards,
   Andrea.


Re: help panel desk tab bar.

2012-12-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:19 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 Help.

 One of the danish translators, just asked me what is panel desk tab bar.

 I think I found where it is used, but is there a precise definition ??


panel desk tab bar doesn't even make sense to me, a native English
speaker.  Do you have the context?

-Rob

 Jan I.


Re: help panel desk tab bar.

2012-12-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 It is in the files that are translated to danish:

 da/accessibility/source/helper.po
 #: accessiblestrings.src#RID_STR_ACC_DESC_PANELDECL_TABBAR.string.text
 msgid Panel Deck Tab Bar
 msgstr Panel Deck Tab Bar

 and in the sdf file:
 accessibilitysource\helper\accessiblestrings.src0string
 RID_STR_ACC_DESC_PANELDECL_TABBAR0en-USPanel Deck
 Tab Bar20121104 17:36:07

 Sorry I wrote desk instead of deck, but I am still equally confused.


I see this discussion on this term here:
http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/Need-you-help-on-a-string-Panel-Deck-Tab-Bar-td2746154.html

-Rob



 Jan I.

 On 2 December 2012 21:49, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:19 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  Help.
 
  One of the danish translators, just asked me what is panel desk tab
 bar.
 
  I think I found where it is used, but is there a precise definition ??
 

 panel desk tab bar doesn't even make sense to me, a native English
 speaker.  Do you have the context?

 -Rob

  Jan I.



Re: Gallery extension from Symphony ressources

2012-12-02 Thread Kevin Grignon
Agreed. Homepage elements are web 1.0. Let's remove them. 

Kevin

On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:

 Am 11/30/2012 01:50 PM, schrieb Armin Le Grand:
 Hi List,
 
 to keep you up-to date (also in #121407#):
 
 I have the first working version. Added themes are:
 
 arrows (merged with existing)
 bullets
 computers
 diagrams
 education
 environment
 finance
 gallery_sound
 gallery_system
 people
 sounds
 symbols
 transportation
 txtshapes
 
 Install set sizes (Windows):
 original: 122 MB (128.229.180 bytes)
 modified: 142 MB (149.436.536 bytes)
 
 Thus, it costs currently ca. 20 MB. I am right now using pngcrush to
 reduce all contained *.png's old and new ones. Lets see what we can do.
 It will get smaller. I also check if the ressources are available as
 vector format (this would be optimal), but it does not look good up to
 now. Let's see, I will report on reduced sizes when achieved...
 
 Suggested from Kevin: remove theme 'rulers'. Comments on that?
 
 Maybe they look really like from the past century. It's always somewhat a 
 kind of taste. But then we should also look at the Homepage theme.
 
 When reducing the pictures in themes or deleting some completely would give 
 some additional reducing.
 
 Marcus
 


My mwiki account appears to have vanished

2012-12-02 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Evening;

I just tried to log in to my mwiki account and was informed by a very 
polite error message that I no longer exist.(See Below)



Login error
There is no user by the name KNMcKenna. Check your spelling.


I know that I logged in last week. Could this account have been deleted 
in the recent maintenance to clear up the spam attack?


Regards
Keith



Re: [proposal/question] wiki.openoffice.org future: mediaWiki or Apache JSPWiki.

2012-12-02 Thread imacat
On 2012/12/03 06:35, janI said:
 JSPwiki just announced a new version:
 
 http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/
 
 since it is a apache project, should we consider upgrading to jspwiki
 instead of continuing with mediawiki ?
 
 The upgrade will almost for sure be harder, but to me it seems beneficial
 to use products from our own family, that way we help them and they
 hopefully help us. I am also confident that it can be done without data
 loss, which is an absolute no-go to me, we will not accept data loss.
 
 If it is decided to go down this path, I will contact jspWiki and get
 involved with their work so we have a real influence on how the wiki
 software evolves (especially in regard of spam control).

If the only benefit is our own family, I do not see this as a
strong reason to risk for either data loss or hard work.  Actually, the
previous admin Terry may have made some tweak on the MediaWiki.  The
most concern for me is not data loss (we have backup), but if the wiki
can still run as before.

Also there are at least four questions that I see immediately.

   1. You said there will be no data loss.  Could we assume JSPWiki is a
successor of MediaWiki?

   2. Are the currently-enabled plugins have their corresponding plugins
in JSPWiki?

   3. Could there be a test machine that we can test first before change?

   4. What will be changed on the user side?

 
 Jan I.
 


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Re: CMS diff:

2012-12-02 Thread Ji Yan
I've updated the defect.txt file with latest defect status including open
and fixed in last month. Could anybody help commit it? thx


On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Yan Ji anonym...@apache.org wrote:

 Clone URL (Committers only):

 https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/stats%2Fdefects.txt

 Yan Ji

 Index: trunk/content/stats/defects.txt
 ===
 --- trunk/content/stats/defects.txt (revision 1416085)
 +++ trunk/content/stats/defects.txt (working copy)
 @@ -17,3 +17,4 @@
  2012-09-01,2161,597
  2012-10-01,2444,718
  2012-11-01,2576,756
 +2012-12-01,2680,780
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Re: My mwiki account appears to have vanished

2012-12-02 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

On 12/02/2012 09:31 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Evening;

I just tried to log in to my mwiki account and was informed by a very 
polite error message that I no longer exist.(See Below)



Login error
There is no user by the name KNMcKenna. Check your spelling.


I know that I logged in last week. Could this account have been 
deleted in the recent maintenance to clear up the spam attack?


Regards
Keith

I cannot comment on where your account went, but in case new account 
creation is still disabled, I went ahead and created an account for you. 
You should receive a randomly generated password (if I did everything 
correctly, Helen gave me a bit of a tutorial on that)...


Let me know if your account does not come through!

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Re: Request MWiki Account.

2012-12-02 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

On 12/03/2012 12:59 AM, kevin le wrote:

Hello!  I am new here to this Open Office and would like to have a MWilki
Account.
Please have my user name as kevinle...@gmail.com.
Thank you so much.
Kevin

Keven, I just created the account for you with the name kevinle277. I 
was not allowed to use your full email address in the creation. A 
randomly generated password was sent to you by the system. Be sure to 
connect and change it.



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Re: [proposal/question] wiki.openoffice.org future: mediaWiki or Apache JSPWiki.

2012-12-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:49 PM, C smau...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:35 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  JSPwiki just announced a new version:
 
  http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/
 
  since it is a apache project, should we consider upgrading to jspwiki
  instead of continuing with mediawiki ?


-1

I agree that this is not enough reason just to migrate. Also bad sysadmin
could inherit the same security problems we are encountering. Not keeping
up with project versions and vulnerabilities will just come back to hunt us
in the end, regardless of the platform we are at.


 
  The upgrade will almost for sure be harder, but to me it seems beneficial
  to use products from our own family, that way we help them and they
  hopefully help us. I am also confident that it can be done without data
  loss, which is an absolute no-go to me, we will not accept data loss.
 
  If it is decided to go down this path, I will contact jspWiki and get
  involved with their work so we have a real influence on how the wiki
  software evolves (especially in regard of spam control).

 While certainly possible to convert from one wiki syntax to another,
 it's no small feat... and that's if the source wiki uses only standard
 syntax for the source Wiki.

 The current MediWiki implementation has a significant number of pages
 that rely on extensions for their content. To have a successful
 conversion, you are looking at needing to rewrite thousands of Wiki
 pages.  Not necessarily to have 1:1 conversion, but simply to ensure
 that the information is still presented in a logical manner (I'm
 thinking of the documentation pages for example).

 Before anyone should really consider this, you need to gather up a
 sizable collection of dedicated volunteers who are willing to sift
 through every wiki page and validate the content, fix the broken
 content, correct conversion errors, and reconnect the information
 flow.

 You also will need to account for custom written extensions and the
 functionality (although simple) they provide.

 It's a very big job to convert even a small number of pages

 Clayton




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Re: My mwiki account appears to have vanished

2012-12-02 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:

On 12/02/2012 09:31 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Evening;

I just tried to log in to my mwiki account and was informed by a very
polite error message that I no longer exist.(See Below)


Login error
There is no user by the name KNMcKenna. Check your spelling.


I know that I logged in last week. Could this account have been
deleted in the recent maintenance to clear up the spam attack?

Regards
Keith


I cannot comment on where your account went, but in case new account
creation is still disabled, I went ahead and created an account for you.
You should receive a randomly generated password (if I did everything
correctly, Helen gave me a bit of a tutorial on that)...

Let me know if your account does not come through!

Thank you Andrew the account came through with flying colours. Profile, 
talk and contribs pages all as they were before.


Regards
Keith