Re: Anyone know where are list mbox files are now?
On 18.12.2012 21:19, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: [...] Does anyone know what is needed to get the archives added back and maintained? A Google-search finds the archive http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/ That's a website. I'm looking to download the actual mbox files, like we could do before. That then allows deeper analysis, e.g., number of unique posters per month, etc. It's both depending on how you access it. Pointing your browser at. e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox will download the mbox file, whereas http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox/browser will let you browse the content directly. Herbert
Re: Anyone know where are list mbox files are now?
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 18.12.2012 21:19, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: [...] Does anyone know what is needed to get the archives added back and maintained? A Google-search finds the archive http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/ That's a website. I'm looking to download the actual mbox files, like we could do before. That then allows deeper analysis, e.g., number of unique posters per month, etc. It's both depending on how you access it. Pointing your browser at. e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox will download the mbox file, whereas http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox/browser will let you browse the content directly. Ohhh. Excellent. Sorry I missed that. Thanks, -Rob Herbert
Re: [Documentation] What gives the most bang for the buck?
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 12/18/2012 03:25 PM, Rob Weir wrote: As we wait, patiently, for the new doc list to be created, it might be worth having a quick discussion about priorities. May I assume that the ODF Authors site and methods will not be used (initial intent was to have both supported) and that a separate effort and site will be used? If yes, then: My assumptions are that the work is done on Apache lists, wikis and website, that the work products are published at Apache, under the Apache License. I'm not sure what the ODF Authors methods are, but I have no assumptions on whether they should be used or not. 1. Decide what to produce (content such as FAQ, User guides, etc) 2. Establish target output types (ODT files, PDF, eBook, Web pages) 2a) Establish editing format that can be transformed into the target output types. 3. Pick a tool and decide how it will be used; for example, if using AOO, is it one big document or using Master Documents? The modularity aspect is key. For example, if we write self-contained topics then we can assemble them into different larger works. So imagine we had a topic for every menu item and dialog in the product. Put that together, along with conceptual topics (like why styles are important) and you have a comprehensive reference manual. But a subset of this material might be brought together, along with new specific target, for a shorter work, Writing your Dissertation with Apache OpenOffice, or Apache OpenOffice for Science and Engineering, or Apache OpenOffice for Microsoft Office Users. Some might be purely text. Some might have video demonstrations to accompany them for key techniques. This old TED talk gives the key insight, I think: http://www.ted.com/talks/malcolm_gladwell_on_spaghetti_sauce.html The question should not be how to create the single perfect user's guide that makes the most people happy. It should be (IMHO) how do we efficiently create many guides that fit our diverse user base even better than any single guide could do. 4. Establish a workflow 4a) NL translation should be explicitly considered when defining tooling, workflows, etc. 5. Create uniform templates 6. Document how volunteers work 7) Establish a feedback loop with our users/readers Now, for each produced document, probably the most difficult part is the initial outline for each document. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: [Documentation] What gives the most bang for the buck?
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Stephen Cameron steve.cameron...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, I agree with your points, It should be possible to create something using the AOO Writer by borrowing the DITA concepts rather than the standard itself, maybe by using templates. The key concept is to be able to generate big documents from lots of smallish, very specifically focused, ones. This provides many advantages (as reading an intro to DITA will make clear) but regarding managing the 'content' development process and in the usefulness of the end result. Potentially the DITA open toolkit can be tweeked to accept something different, its all XML behind the scenes in ODF I assume. From another direction, maybe we can find a way to convert AOO output (in ODF format) into proper DITA? There might we away that this could be done using a combination of styles and metatags inserted into the text of the document. -Rob On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Stephen Cameron steve.cameron...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Have you ever thought of DITA as an option for AOO documentation? I've just started using it for documentation of some non-commercial software. There is an FOSS resource in the DITA Open Toolkit. In theory the DITA concepts are resources from which is generated different types of documentation via DITA maps. http://dita-ot.sourceforge.net/ If coders created DITA topics as feature where implemented then these could be taken and used by people creating documentation. This just might overcome one of the major limitations of many open-source projects, poor documentation. I certainly have suggested DITA as an approach. It has the advantages of being able to target PDF, HTML, e-Book., etc. It also would allow us to do a greater degree of customization, e.g., encode what paragraphs are Linux-specific, etc., and then generate a guide for windows, another one for Linux, etc., from a single source document. However, the arguments against DITA that I've heard include: 1) Volunteers are not familiar with it. So it becomes an additional hurdle for contributors 2) Editing DITA via raw XML is hard, but the good DITA editors that make DITA editing easy are not free. 3) Since our project includes its own word processor, we should probably use it for producing documentation. I don't think these hurdles are impossible to overcome, but we'd need to figure out how to do so. IMHO learning DITA is not very hard. You don't need to be a programmer, for example. And knowledge of DITA is a useful market skill. So if we did a call for documentation volunteers and talked about this being an opportunity to gain experience with DITA, that might be attractive to some new volunteers. On the other hand, some just want to write, and not worry about a more complicated document preparation workflow. Regards, -Rob On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Donald Whytock wrote: Hotkey reference pages? My personal preference for documentation is usually immediate-answer stuff like reference pages and very specific how-tos, as opposed to general guides and introductions. Perhaps that's just me coming from a programming perspective. Don Don; Immediate answer pages are great and they serve a useful purpose. However there is also need for In depth Guides and Introductions such as the Getting Started Guides. There are still many of us that prefer to have hard copy documentation that we can highlight and mark-up as fits our learning styles. With hypertext we can have both, right? Immediate answer pages that link to in depth reference material for details, etc. -Rob Rob; That is correct. That is one nice thing about electronic documentation. Regards Keith Regards Keith On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As we wait, patiently, for the new doc list to be created, it might be worth having a quick discussion about priorities. I know there has been talk about getting started guides, perhaps done on the wiki. Another idea I had was a very targeted version of that, thinking specifically of Microsoft Office users migrating to OpenOffice. Would it be worth having a small guide just for them, say the top 10 helpful hints for MS Office users, things they might find confusing at first. For example: 1) In Calc, the argument separator is a semi-colon, not a comma. 2) In Calc, toggling absolute address mode is done by a shift-F4, not an F4 OK. Maybe we end up more with 40 or 50 things like this. Would this be useful and worth trying? -Rob
MIME type of current document
Hi everyone, is it possible to get the kind of document currently opened in Writer via the API? Ideally, this would be a MIME type kind of thing. Thank you very much! Best, Robert
Re: Databases
Am 19.12.2012 12:45, schrieb Graham Wing: Hi there, why can't I copy an access database into Opensource, and then be able to update it? I have to convert the darabase into excel but of course I loose the facilities of access Kind regards, Graham Wing ACQI Office: 01787371331 Fax: 08704581636 Mobile: 07711162621 There are different ways to migrate an access-database to a Free Software database. This is the way I would choose. The first thing you have to do is to choose a free database management system (dbms). If you like a server-client-system the build-in HSQL is not the right one. But they are MySQL and PostgreSQL (for example). The second step (export) is to migrate the data in csv-files (csv = character separeted values) table by table. Control the results! The next step is to create a database in the choosen dbms with the right format of tables and columns. That is the step you need some experience in databases. And the last step is to import the csv-files table for table in the new database. Control the results! In openoffice you have to create a database connection (if you use a server-client-system). Then you have to make queries, formulars, reports and all the other stuff. Regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Documentation] What gives the most bang for the buck?
Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Stephen Cameron steve.cameron...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, I agree with your points, It should be possible to create something using the AOO Writer by borrowing the DITA concepts rather than the standard itself, maybe by using templates. The key concept is to be able to generate big documents from lots of smallish, very specifically focused, ones. This provides many advantages (as reading an intro to DITA will make clear) but regarding managing the 'content' development process and in the usefulness of the end result. Potentially the DITA open toolkit can be tweeked to accept something different, its all XML behind the scenes in ODF I assume. From another direction, maybe we can find a way to convert AOO output (in ODF format) into proper DITA? There might we away that this could be done using a combination of styles and metatags inserted into the text of the document. -Rob Rob; This may be a better alternative. That way standard templates could be developed and contributors would be able to concentrate more on writing than on learning DITA. Regards Keith On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Stephen Cameron steve.cameron...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Have you ever thought of DITA as an option for AOO documentation? I've just started using it for documentation of some non-commercial software. There is an FOSS resource in the DITA Open Toolkit. In theory the DITA concepts are resources from which is generated different types of documentation via DITA maps. http://dita-ot.sourceforge.net/ If coders created DITA topics as feature where implemented then these could be taken and used by people creating documentation. This just might overcome one of the major limitations of many open-source projects, poor documentation. I certainly have suggested DITA as an approach. It has the advantages of being able to target PDF, HTML, e-Book., etc. It also would allow us to do a greater degree of customization, e.g., encode what paragraphs are Linux-specific, etc., and then generate a guide for windows, another one for Linux, etc., from a single source document. However, the arguments against DITA that I've heard include: 1) Volunteers are not familiar with it. So it becomes an additional hurdle for contributors 2) Editing DITA via raw XML is hard, but the good DITA editors that make DITA editing easy are not free. 3) Since our project includes its own word processor, we should probably use it for producing documentation. I don't think these hurdles are impossible to overcome, but we'd need to figure out how to do so. IMHO learning DITA is not very hard. You don't need to be a programmer, for example. And knowledge of DITA is a useful market skill. So if we did a call for documentation volunteers and talked about this being an opportunity to gain experience with DITA, that might be attractive to some new volunteers. On the other hand, some just want to write, and not worry about a more complicated document preparation workflow. Regards, -Rob On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Donald Whytock wrote: Hotkey reference pages? My personal preference for documentation is usually immediate-answer stuff like reference pages and very specific how-tos, as opposed to general guides and introductions. Perhaps that's just me coming from a programming perspective. Don Don; Immediate answer pages are great and they serve a useful purpose. However there is also need for In depth Guides and Introductions such as the Getting Started Guides. There are still many of us that prefer to have hard copy documentation that we can highlight and mark-up as fits our learning styles. With hypertext we can have both, right? Immediate answer pages that link to in depth reference material for details, etc. -Rob Rob; That is correct. That is one nice thing about electronic documentation. Regards Keith Regards Keith On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As we wait, patiently, for the new doc list to be created, it might be worth having a quick discussion about priorities. I know there has been talk about getting started guides, perhaps done on the wiki. Another idea I had was a very targeted version of that, thinking specifically of Microsoft Office users migrating to OpenOffice. Would it be worth having a small guide just for them, say the top 10 helpful hints for MS Office users, things they might find confusing at first. For example: 1) In Calc, the argument separator is a semi-colon, not a comma. 2) In Calc, toggling absolute address mode is done by a shift-F4, not an F4 OK. Maybe we end up more with 40 or 50 things like this. Would this be useful and
Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Xin Li lxnice...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design. I have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki. I put the question up on our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910 5 responses in less than 30 minutes. I think this could be a good way to engage with our users. -Rob See: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki page. Thanks. http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals -- Best regards, Xin Li 李欣 UX designer
Re: [QA] Python version late for MacOS
Just as a note, OOo allows the user to select their own JVM and other things such as classpath, and such on the Tools - Options - Java. Could something like this be enabled for Python3 or 2 or would it be as hard as porting the bridge? On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello guys; Just a quick note that thanks to Tsutomu-san and some tweaking around the tree with the 2to3 python script we basically support Python 3 as a system version now. There may still be some issues to fix (especially with mailmerge) but it should work now. I still think we should use Python 2.7.3 by default in the tree and I don't plan to change that for AOO 4.x but it is really cool to have upgrade options. Please do exercise the default Python support and report any regression. Pedro. - Messaggio originale - Thank you Tsutomu-san! I am currently busy with other stuff but I am aware of what's needed in our pyuno layer so I will examine your code soon. Pedro. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Website style disconnect
On 19 December 2012 18:13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who said they had web design skills. We have two websites for the project: 1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org 2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org In practice the distinction is not always clear. There are many links that cross from one website to another. For example, a user starting at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the I want to Participate in OpenOffice ends on on this project page here: http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html. The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways, and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO). Would it not be more efficient just to have one website, with e.g. a project corner, I for one tend to get confused when I search information ? To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML constructs, and differences in page headers/footers: See: http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html and http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html If we need two, it would be real nice (as you suggest) that the layout is identical. Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages. Also, the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on openoffice.apache.org. IMHO this is too small for default text. There are other things that are common between the two sites, but perhaps are non-optimal, like: 1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well. We're just indenting. Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar? +1 2) The yellow background of the pre block is a bit extreme. Maybe something more subtle? +1 +++ 3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2. There is a need for more levels, and maybe skip H1 and thereby making it easier to transfer to/from mwiki. I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting stuff checked in, etc. But I have neither the taste nor the talent to design a good looking set of styles. Trust me, you do not want be to do design work. So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of styles that we can use across both websites. That makes two of a kind, I think you need to have a special touch to be a good designer. Jan. Thanks! -Rob
OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program
For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program. Congratulations, everyone! http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10 Regards, -Rob
Re: [QA] Python version late for MacOS
Hi Alexandro; - Messaggio originale - Da: Alexandro Colorado ... Just as a note, OOo allows the user to select their own JVM and other things such as classpath, and such on the Tools - Options - Java. Could something like this be enabled for Python3 or 2 or would it be as hard as porting the bridge? pyuno needs to know the python version during compile time. This is different in Java because bytecode is made to be portable. I guess you could build pyuno2 and pyuno3 but you would need to have both python versions available. I think hanya may be thinking of something like that in his pyuno3 project: https://github.com/hanya/pyuno3/ cheers, Pedro.
Re: OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program
Hi 2012/12/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program. Congratulations, everyone! http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10 Very well :-) disseminating ... -- Albino www.albino.ws
Re: unsubscribe siva.jas...@gmail.com
Hi 2012/12/19 Siva Jasthi siva.jas...@gmail.com: unsubscribe siva.jas...@gmail.com Sent: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org -- Albino www.albino.ws
Re: [PROPOSAL] Licenses and Oracle texts.
Hi Andrew; - Messaggio originale - Da: Andrew Rist Jan, Other than the 'Oracle Report Builder' these all look like they should be changed. As for the 'Oracle Report Builder' ones, does that require more detailed surgery? What is the equivalent product now? Asking a larger audience... Abandonware. Not sure if Ariel had something in the works to rescue it as an extension. Pedro.
Re: Default Toolbar for Certain Languages
On 2012/12/19 11:36, Shenfeng Liu said: 2012/12/19 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw On 2012/12/18 11:24, Fan Zheng said: As we are considering about the side bar stuff currently, would you mind giving us more specifications on your suggestions? Specificly, I'm thinking about installing this on both Chinese versions by default: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/cpuncbar We may discuss about the list of punctuation marks, but that's the basic idea. This is quite important to Chinese users, as people keep asking me about it. imacat, I agree with you that it is a very useful feature! But IMO to build it into product, we need a better design than the current extension. e.g. It should be customizable, since there are so many special characters and different people will ask for different characters on the toolbar. And then, it should be general enough and be able to work for all languages (even English), with different default set of characters? This looks nice. I think it is the proper way to do. ^_*' -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Trabalho voluntário (translation volunteer)
I have been watching for replies, surprised that we have none yet OK, anyone, any particular advice for translators? Do we have active work now (web sites, wiki, etc) Documentation group is just starting up, will certainly need translators there as well. On 12/18/2012 04:18 PM, Tatiane Araujo wrote: Boa tarde! Eu sou Tatiane Araujo de Cristo recebi uma mensafem sobre o trabalho voluntário do projeto Apache OpenOffice, quero me incluir neste projeto como voluntária na área de tradução (português do Brasil). Good afternoon! I am Tatiane Araujo Cristo received a mensafem about volunteering Apache OpenOffice project, I want to include this project as a volunteer in the area of translation (Portuguese Brazil). Tatiane Araujo de Cristo Bacharelando em Tradução e Intérprete Técnica em Turismo e Hotelaria -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
[Release candicate] mwiki, test
Finally I got mwiki upgraded and ready for test. version 1.20.2 of mediawiki, with AOO skin and a copy of the database is available for testing: wikitest.openoffice.org It will prompt for a user/password (htaccess), which is: wikitest/wikitest (just used so nobody thinks it is a production wiki). There are several changes against to current wiki, here are some of the important ones: - New editor (I ended up using the standard editor) - many extensions are now part of the core (it requires that especially creative user pages needs testing) - special gatcha for create account, actually it is just a reuse of an extension that was already loaded I have done a run and go test, but we need it tested a lot more before it goes into production. My proposal is to leave wikitest running until 31/12/2012, and anybody who finds a problem (or a feature request) please make a bugzilla report, that makes it easier to control. Beginning january and once all severe bugzilla bugs for wikitest has been solved, I will ask for a vote on replacing the current wiki. have a nice time testing. Jan I
Re: NewWikiMainPage
Thanks. I ended up using the oooSkin as basis. I had to rewrite the php completely, and do a number of changes to main.css, but now it works. The oooSkin was based on monobook, but it did not look good to take that directly. Jan I. On 19 December 2012 23:48, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Looks great, I wonder if the skin used the original monobook or vector one?
Re: [Release candicate] mwiki, test
Hi Jan, janI schrieb: Finally I got mwiki upgraded and ready for test. version 1.20.2 of mediawiki, with AOO skin and a copy of the database is available for testing: wikitest.openoffice.org It will prompt for a user/password (htaccess), which is: wikitest/wikitest (just used so nobody thinks it is a production wiki). There are several changes against to current wiki, here are some of the important ones: - New editor (I ended up using the standard editor) - many extensions are now part of the core (it requires that especially creative user pages needs testing) - special gatcha for create account, actually it is just a reuse of an extension that was already loaded I have done a run and go test, but we need it tested a lot more before it goes into production. My proposal is to leave wikitest running until 31/12/2012, and anybody who finds a problem (or a feature request) please make a bugzilla report, that makes it easier to control. I have written https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121516 [WIKITEST] math formulas are not rendered in Product: ; Component: Website general issues Perhaps you determine a form of bug report you like best? Beginning january and once all severe bugzilla bugs for wikitest has been solved, I will ask for a vote on replacing the current wiki. have a nice time testing. Jan I Kind regards Regina
Re: Equivalence in iBook Author
On Friday, December 14, 2012 13:39:25 Sylvain DENIS wrote: Hello, I make stands and often I made small requests. The last appeared after the release of a software in Apple. In education, many teachers use the software iBooks Author. He realizes ePub with additional features (such as interactions). Is it possible to make the same kind with AOO? There is the plugin Writer2epub but it is far from complete. This is a strong demand in Belgium and France. Thank you for your response You could take a look at Calligra Author[1]. It's more or less exactly what you're looking for. It's a new member of the Calligra Suite especially made for creating ebooks. Well... In theory anyway. The first version hasn't actually been released yet. That's going to happen at the beginning of January. There is a release candidate out now which you can try out. It can export both to epub2 and mobi formats and right now we are working on cover images and adding epub3 features like support for MathML and multimedia (embedded video). Calligra Author itself can already handle both (although the first version has somewhat basic handling of math formulas to be honest) but the export filter cannot yet. [1] http://www.calligra.org/
Re: Trabalho voluntário (translation volunteer)
Hi 2012/12/19 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org: I have been watching for replies, surprised that we have none yet OK, anyone, any particular advice for translators? Yes. Was a problem update all emails here. I istarted in l10n list first. :-) On 12/18/2012 04:18 PM, Tatiane Araujo wrote: Good afternoon! Hi Tatiane. Welcome. :) I am Tatiane Araujo Cristo received a mensafem about volunteering Apache OpenOffice project, I want to include this project as a volunteer in the area of translation (Portuguese Brazil). This sounds good. We discuss our work in geral-pt-br@ list. So, I suggest to you subscribe this list[1]. At this moment, we are working in help files, wiki and web pages translations. We can discuss more about there, with other people that are waiting more details to help. What you think? [1] geral-ptbr-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org Bests, Claudio
Re: Equivalence in iBook Author
Inge, On 12-12-19, at 18:13 , Inge Wallin i...@lysator.liu.se wrote: On Friday, December 14, 2012 13:39:25 Sylvain DENIS wrote: Hello, I make stands and often I made small requests. The last appeared after the release of a software in Apple. In education, many teachers use the software iBooks Author. He realizes ePub with additional features (such as interactions). Is it possible to make the same kind with AOO? There is the plugin Writer2epub but it is far from complete. This is a strong demand in Belgium and France. Thank you for your response You could take a look at Calligra Author[1]. It's more or less exactly what you're looking for. It's a new member of the Calligra Suite especially made for creating ebooks. Well... In theory anyway. The first version hasn't actually been released yet. That's going to happen at the beginning of January. There is a release candidate out now which you can try out. It can export both to epub2 and mobi formats and right now we are working on cover images and adding epub3 features like support for MathML and multimedia (embedded video). Calligra Author itself can already handle both (although the first version has somewhat basic handling of math formulas to be honest) but the export filter cannot yet. [1] http://www.calligra.org/ I'd like to try it out but my primary device is Mac OS X. I can use a virtualizer easily enough but my usual reaction to Windows is typical, if unprintable. KDE I can manage easily enough but if there is a Mac OS X binary that's pre-pre ready, I'd be game to give it a spin. You can send me info offline, if you like to preserve peace. BTW, Calligra is overall quite nice—a great job of coding and management. If I get a copy of the Author for OS X, I'll also be comparing it to Scrivener, which I've come to rather like for DTP, though of course, I am most comfortable with AOO. Cheers Louis
[PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best, Michael
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
I like it! cheers, Pedro. Da: Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com A: Apache OpenOffice dev@openoffice.apache.org; Apache OpenOffice Marketing market...@openoffice.apache.org Inviato: Mercoledì 19 Dicembre 2012 20:33 Oggetto: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals... Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best, Michael
Re: OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program
Congratulations! 2012/12/20 Albino Biasutti Neto bin...@apache.org Hi 2012/12/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program. Congratulations, everyone! http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10 Very well :-) disseminating ... -- Albino www.albino.ws
Re: OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program
Good News,Congratulations!!! On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program. Congratulations, everyone! http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10 Regards, -Rob -- Best Regards,Jianhong Cheng
Re: [Release candicate] mwiki, test
I did not test the math plug-in, but I found no problem. Thank you for your great effort! On 2012/12/20 06:23, janI said: Finally I got mwiki upgraded and ready for test. version 1.20.2 of mediawiki, with AOO skin and a copy of the database is available for testing: wikitest.openoffice.org It will prompt for a user/password (htaccess), which is: wikitest/wikitest (just used so nobody thinks it is a production wiki). There are several changes against to current wiki, here are some of the important ones: - New editor (I ended up using the standard editor) - many extensions are now part of the core (it requires that especially creative user pages needs testing) - special gatcha for create account, actually it is just a reuse of an extension that was already loaded I have done a run and go test, but we need it tested a lot more before it goes into production. My proposal is to leave wikitest running until 31/12/2012, and anybody who finds a problem (or a feature request) please make a bugzilla report, that makes it easier to control. Beginning january and once all severe bugzilla bugs for wikitest has been solved, I will ask for a vote on replacing the current wiki. have a nice time testing. Jan I -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Some honest thoughts: 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird. The lights of the plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not. 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple. And we have other components such as Math and Draw. 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory. The lights of the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the plate of the orb) come from right. But still, thanks you very much for this great effort. On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Good Evening Imacat, Here's my personal insight on the logo decisions when it comes to the amount of squares and coloring scheme. The first is that I tried for hours how to integrate six squares into the logo and the problem that arose was that the logo looked too crowded. As a result I had to strike a compromise, pick the four applications or modules that embody an office suite in general which are the word processor, spreadsheet, presentation module, and database creator. OpenOffice is the only office suite that comes to memory that does have a formula editor and a radically unique graphics drawing program (closest analogue is Microsoft Publisher but Draw is a different animal). Moving now to the color scheme, the colors for the squares that represent the office suite core components were inspired upon the AOO start center which has icons for the word, spreadsheet, presentation, and database modules. If you look closely, each of the icons there have a color code, the Writer document icon has blue accents, Calc document icon has green accents, Impress icon has orange accents, and the Base icon has violet accents. Therefore, it was a logical decision to color the squares accordingly. When it comes to the lighting of the logo... I beg to differ. I'll need to sleep over that to see whether or not it is worth considering tweaking the lighting. In my honest opinion, I think the current lighting works fine for the logo. Thanks for the feedback. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: Some honest thoughts: 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird. The lights of the plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not. 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple. And we have other components such as Math and Draw. 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory. The lights of the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the plate of the orb) come from right. But still, thanks you very much for this great effort. On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids http://www.openoffice.org/EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best, Michael
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
imacat, Your comments are so professional! :-) Personally I like this logo design more comparing to other candidates in wikihttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations. Thanks Michael! While we may also want to update the app icon design as the next step for consistent LF... - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/20 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw Some honest thoughts: 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird. The lights of the plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not. 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple. And we have other components such as Math and Draw. 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory. The lights of the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the plate of the orb) come from right. But still, thanks you very much for this great effort. On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/
Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design
Rob, thanks for post the design on Facebook. Yes, I agree with you that it could be a good way to engage with our users. I see there already have more than 10 responses. Wish will get more. :) 2012/12/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Xin Li lxnice...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design. I have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki. I put the question up on our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910 5 responses in less than 30 minutes. I think this could be a good way to engage with our users. -Rob See: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki page. Thanks. http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals -- Best regards, Xin Li 李欣 UX designer -- Best regards, Xin Li 李欣 UX designer
Re: [PROPOSAL] Licenses and Oracle texts.
On 19/12/2012 Pedro Giffuni wrote: Da: Andrew Rist As for the 'Oracle Report Builder' ones, does that require more detailed surgery? What is the equivalent product now? Asking a larger audience... Abandonware. Not sure if Ariel had something in the works to rescue it as an extension. By coincidence, there's an ongoing discussion about these extensions on the users list: http://markmail.org/message/fw3ctxboymibu6zh?q=+list:org%2Eapache%2Eincubator%2Eooo-users Regards, Andrea.
