Re: OpenOffice thin client edition - why not?

[Kevin Grignon]

Hello All,

I see a shift in how people capture and manage content. 

We need to make it easy for people to get ideas into the tools, help them 
organize the content, make it look the way they want and share the content. 

Managing files is not an enjoyable part of this story. 

Evernote's approach is gaining market share. 

We need something that is positioned between web editors and thick clients. 
Something where the assets are managed by the tools. 

Just a thought. 

Kevin



On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Juergen Schmidt  
> wrote:
>> having a solution for this kind of devices would be of course nice.
> 
> I´m not thinking cloud as in "Google´s cloud" but more like "my PC as
> server and any thin-client device on my home as client".
> 
> In fact, I think the RDP or VNC protocol are enough. In other words,
> as engineers say, let´s keep it according to the "K.I.S.S. principle".
> ;)
> 
> By googling around I was able to find VNC clients for iPads, Android
> devices etc... so with VNC it´d be ´good enough´ and working on a
> local LAN, it´d have no bandwidth issues associated with residential
> broadband connections´ limited upstream and the like...
> 
> Just my $0.02 of course
> FC
> 
> 
> -- 
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary 
> act
> Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
> Acto Revolucionario
> - George Orwell

Re: OpenOffice thin client edition - why not?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Juergen Schmidt  wrote:
> having a solution for this kind of devices would be of course nice.

I´m not thinking cloud as in "Google´s cloud" but more like "my PC as
server and any thin-client device on my home as client".

In fact, I think the RDP or VNC protocol are enough. In other words,
as engineers say, let´s keep it according to the "K.I.S.S. principle".
;)

By googling around I was able to find VNC clients for iPads, Android
devices etc... so with VNC it´d be ´good enough´ and working on a
local LAN, it´d have no bandwidth issues associated with residential
broadband connections´ limited upstream and the like...

Just my $0.02 of course
FC


-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell

Re: OpenOffice thin client edition - why not?

[Juergen Schmidt]

Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013 um 05:18 schrieb Fernando Cassia:
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> > It wasnt an edition more like a mode, you did $ soffice -net and you can
> > have variou users conenected, there was a pertner that even did some Active
> > Directory authentication.
> > http://openofficetechnology.com/products/OpenOffice-Enterprise
> >  
>  
>  
>  

I think you mix some things here  
>  
> Yea but was that code ever part of OO.o ? guess not...
no  
>  
> Wouldn´t it be nice to package AOO for easy thin client operation?
> Like Rob says... iPads are the new thin clients...
>  
>  

having a solution for this kind of devices would be of course nice.

Juergen  
>  
> And IMHO what yesterday was considered "Network Computing" could be
> today´s "private cloud". :)
>  
> FC  

Re: OpenOffice thin client edition - why not?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>  It wasnt an edition more like a mode, you did $ soffice -net and you can
> have variou users conenected, there was a pertner that even did some Active
> Directory authentication.
> http://openofficetechnology.com/products/OpenOffice-Enterprise

Yea but was that code ever part of OO.o ? guess not...

Wouldn´t it be nice to package AOO for easy thin client operation?
Like Rob says... iPads are the new thin clients...

And IMHO what yesterday was considered "Network Computing" could be
today´s "private cloud". :)

FC

Re: OpenOffice thin client edition - why not?

[Alexandro Colorado]

 It wasnt an edition more like a mode, you did $ soffice -net and you can
have variou users conenected, there was a pertner that even did some Active
Directory authentication.
http://openofficetechnology.com/products/OpenOffice-Enterprise



On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Fernando Cassia 
> wrote:
> > I remember Sun -or perhaps it was StarDivision- once sold a StarOffice
> > "network computing" edition, basically what I think it did was install
> > a OO.o/SO Server on a LAN, and remote users connected -over VNC or
> > likewise thin-client protocol- via a Java applet in their browsers, to
> > the StarOffice app.
> >
> > So, has anyone played with such a setup in OpenOffice ? Notice I don´t
> > want to give remote users access to the full desktop or a remote Linux
> > desktop session, just the application. In other words, what I mean is
> > the VNC-ization of the OO app...
> >
>
> rollApp appears to do some form of GUI virtualization, but to an iPad:
>
> https://www.rollapp.com/OpenOffice
>
> The tablet is the new "thin client", yes?
>
> They use DropBox and Google Drive as the file stores for user documents.
>
> -Rob
>
> > Ideally, a server could be set up with each app (Calc, Writer,
> > Impress) on different tcpip ports so users could start with a new
> > document directly by using a different URL.
> >
> > Perhaps this exists already, I´m not sure. The components to do so
> > clearly are out there... for instance TightVNC (GPL) has a Java applet
> > viewer with ssh http://www.tightvnc.com/ssh-java-vnc-viewer.php
> >
> > I´m surprised no one has made a ready-made fire and forget installer
> > for this kind of setup.
> >
> > Thoughts? comments? -TIA
> > FC
> > --
> > During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
> revolutionary act
> > Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
> > Acto Revolucionario
> > - George Orwell
>



-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: OpenOffice thin client edition - why not?

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> I remember Sun -or perhaps it was StarDivision- once sold a StarOffice
> "network computing" edition, basically what I think it did was install
> a OO.o/SO Server on a LAN, and remote users connected -over VNC or
> likewise thin-client protocol- via a Java applet in their browsers, to
> the StarOffice app.
>
> So, has anyone played with such a setup in OpenOffice ? Notice I don´t
> want to give remote users access to the full desktop or a remote Linux
> desktop session, just the application. In other words, what I mean is
> the VNC-ization of the OO app...
>

rollApp appears to do some form of GUI virtualization, but to an iPad:

https://www.rollapp.com/OpenOffice

The tablet is the new "thin client", yes?

They use DropBox and Google Drive as the file stores for user documents.

-Rob

> Ideally, a server could be set up with each app (Calc, Writer,
> Impress) on different tcpip ports so users could start with a new
> document directly by using a different URL.
>
> Perhaps this exists already, I´m not sure. The components to do so
> clearly are out there... for instance TightVNC (GPL) has a Java applet
> viewer with ssh http://www.tightvnc.com/ssh-java-vnc-viewer.php
>
> I´m surprised no one has made a ready-made fire and forget installer
> for this kind of setup.
>
> Thoughts? comments? -TIA
> FC
> --
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary 
> act
> Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
> Acto Revolucionario
> - George Orwell

OpenOffice thin client edition - why not?

[Fernando Cassia]

I remember Sun -or perhaps it was StarDivision- once sold a StarOffice
"network computing" edition, basically what I think it did was install
a OO.o/SO Server on a LAN, and remote users connected -over VNC or
likewise thin-client protocol- via a Java applet in their browsers, to
the StarOffice app.

So, has anyone played with such a setup in OpenOffice ? Notice I don´t
want to give remote users access to the full desktop or a remote Linux
desktop session, just the application. In other words, what I mean is
the VNC-ization of the OO app...

Ideally, a server could be set up with each app (Calc, Writer,
Impress) on different tcpip ports so users could start with a new
document directly by using a different URL.

Perhaps this exists already, I´m not sure. The components to do so
clearly are out there... for instance TightVNC (GPL) has a Java applet
viewer with ssh http://www.tightvnc.com/ssh-java-vnc-viewer.php

I´m surprised no one has made a ready-made fire and forget installer
for this kind of setup.

Thoughts? comments? -TIA
FC
-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell

Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 17.01.2013 03:16, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Regina Henschel
>>>  wrote:

 Hi Rob,

 I had the crash problem too, but unfortunately I do not have the user
 profile any longer. But I can list some things, which I usually do with
 each
 version:

>>>
>>> Wow, this is quite a list!
>>>
>>> So let's play detective here, and "think like a bug".  If something
>>> went wrong, what are likely causes?
>>>
>>> -- The profile conversion can't be totally broken or it would fail for
>>> every upgrade
>>>
>>> -- It cannot depend on a very rare situation, like a specific macro
>>> import or a rarely used extension, otherwise we would not see many
>>> reports at all.
>>>
>>> So what is in the middle?   Volume of changes?  Exceeding a specific
>>> string length?  Some data type conversion issue?  Locale dependency?
>>> Character set conversion?
>>>
>>> If it is any single cause then it could be narrowed down by a binary
>>> search style set of tests.  Tedious, but doable.
>>>
 - Add name to user data, turn off "Help Agent", increase Graphics cache
 to
 maximum, number of objects to 100, set number of undo steps to 20.
 - In Pathes: Add AutoCorrect, AutoText, Gallery, and Templates from a
 folder
 outside my home directory, do not make it the default. Set Graphics to
 the
 default Windows folder for personal pictures.
 - Set Macro Security to Medium.
 - Set JRE to Java 1.6.0.37.
 - Have Online Update to check automatically every week.
 - Clear checkbox "Size optimation for ODF settings".
 - Set HTML to Export OOoWriter and Character set UTF-8.
 - Change Languages to not use the "default" item, enable both items in
 enhanced language support.
 - Set personal document templates from the added path (see above) as
 default
 template.
 - Define own toolbar in Draw and in Impress with commands for macros.
 - Import about 10 macro libraries.
 - In Draw and Impress: Dock toolbar 'Options' to the left and customize
 it.
 Customize the drawing toolbar to show the toolboxes instead of single
 shapes. Drag the zoom sub-toolbar from the standard bar and dock it.
 Stack
 Page pane and Style&Formatting window.
 - Customize standard toolbar: remove, disable and add commands.
 In Writer dock table and numbering toolbar to the right, Style&Formatting
 window to the left, show drawing toolbar, customize standard toolbar,
 define
 own toolbar for macros.
   - Install a German or an English language pack, depending on which is
 the
 basis installation. Make sure the dictionary is installed and install it,
 if
 it is missing. Keep the default installed extensions.

 Including the recent document list, this results always in a
 registrymodifications.xcu with size around 800KB.

 All that was done on WinXP. [I'm now on Win7.]

 I think, this might give you an imagination of "highly customized".

 Kind regards
 Regina

 Rob Weir schrieb:

> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Kay Schenk 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/15/2013 12:48 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14.01.2013 22:50, Hagar Delest wrote:



 Le 14/01/2013 12:06, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit :
>
>
>
> Does exist a description (may be inclusive a blob of the former user
> profile) to reproduce the problem?




 Sadly, no.
 XP seems the version where it occurs the most.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Was the profile migration problem also reported on Mac, Linux or
>>> FreeBSD? If it was mostly an XP problem then the observation by
>>> Stephan
>>> Bergmann mentioned in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ooo-forums.apache.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55017&p=242599#p242632
>>> could be real the root cause of all our profile migration related
>>> instabilities.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> as an FYI...I use linux 32 bit rpm, and have never had a user profile
>> issue,
>> that I know of :]
>>
>
> I've never seen the issue either, on Windows XP, 7 or 8.
>
>
> But I do have a clean XP virtual machine image that I can run some
> tests on.  If anyone has a suggestion on how one can force the problem
> to occur, let me know.
>
> I assume it is some form of:
>
> 1) Install OOo 3.3.0
>
> 2) Do a bunch of stuff that triggers profile changes
>
> 3) Upgrade to AOO 3.4.1
>
> 4) Kaboom!
>
> But what are some things I should do for step #2?
>
>>
>> I now have an user profile which causes constantly crashes.
>> It had

Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 17.01.2013 03:16, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Regina Henschel
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> I had the crash problem too, but unfortunately I do not have the user
>>> profile any longer. But I can list some things, which I usually do with
>>> each
>>> version:
>>>
>>
>> Wow, this is quite a list!
>>
>> So let's play detective here, and "think like a bug".  If something
>> went wrong, what are likely causes?
>>
>> -- The profile conversion can't be totally broken or it would fail for
>> every upgrade
>>
>> -- It cannot depend on a very rare situation, like a specific macro
>> import or a rarely used extension, otherwise we would not see many
>> reports at all.
>>
>> So what is in the middle?   Volume of changes?  Exceeding a specific
>> string length?  Some data type conversion issue?  Locale dependency?
>> Character set conversion?
>>
>> If it is any single cause then it could be narrowed down by a binary
>> search style set of tests.  Tedious, but doable.
>>
>>> - Add name to user data, turn off "Help Agent", increase Graphics cache
>>> to
>>> maximum, number of objects to 100, set number of undo steps to 20.
>>> - In Pathes: Add AutoCorrect, AutoText, Gallery, and Templates from a
>>> folder
>>> outside my home directory, do not make it the default. Set Graphics to
>>> the
>>> default Windows folder for personal pictures.
>>> - Set Macro Security to Medium.
>>> - Set JRE to Java 1.6.0.37.
>>> - Have Online Update to check automatically every week.
>>> - Clear checkbox "Size optimation for ODF settings".
>>> - Set HTML to Export OOoWriter and Character set UTF-8.
>>> - Change Languages to not use the "default" item, enable both items in
>>> enhanced language support.
>>> - Set personal document templates from the added path (see above) as
>>> default
>>> template.
>>> - Define own toolbar in Draw and in Impress with commands for macros.
>>> - Import about 10 macro libraries.
>>> - In Draw and Impress: Dock toolbar 'Options' to the left and customize
>>> it.
>>> Customize the drawing toolbar to show the toolboxes instead of single
>>> shapes. Drag the zoom sub-toolbar from the standard bar and dock it.
>>> Stack
>>> Page pane and Style&Formatting window.
>>> - Customize standard toolbar: remove, disable and add commands.
>>> In Writer dock table and numbering toolbar to the right, Style&Formatting
>>> window to the left, show drawing toolbar, customize standard toolbar,
>>> define
>>> own toolbar for macros.
>>>   - Install a German or an English language pack, depending on which is
>>> the
>>> basis installation. Make sure the dictionary is installed and install it,
>>> if
>>> it is missing. Keep the default installed extensions.
>>>
>>> Including the recent document list, this results always in a
>>> registrymodifications.xcu with size around 800KB.
>>>
>>> All that was done on WinXP. [I'm now on Win7.]
>>>
>>> I think, this might give you an imagination of "highly customized".
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>>> Rob Weir schrieb:
>>>
 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Kay Schenk 
 wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On 01/15/2013 12:48 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14.01.2013 22:50, Hagar Delest wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 14/01/2013 12:06, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit :



 Does exist a description (may be inclusive a blob of the former user
 profile) to reproduce the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sadly, no.
>>> XP seems the version where it occurs the most.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Was the profile migration problem also reported on Mac, Linux or
>> FreeBSD? If it was mostly an XP problem then the observation by
>> Stephan
>> Bergmann mentioned in
>>
>>
>>
>> http://ooo-forums.apache.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55017&p=242599#p242632
>> could be real the root cause of all our profile migration related
>> instabilities.
>
>
>
>
> as an FYI...I use linux 32 bit rpm, and have never had a user profile
> issue,
> that I know of :]
>

 I've never seen the issue either, on Windows XP, 7 or 8.


 But I do have a clean XP virtual machine image that I can run some
 tests on.  If anyone has a suggestion on how one can force the problem
 to occur, let me know.

 I assume it is some form of:

 1) Install OOo 3.3.0

 2) Do a bunch of stuff that triggers profile changes

 3) Upgrade to AOO 3.4.1

 4) Kaboom!

 But what are some things I should do for step #2?

>
> I now have an user profile which causes constantly crashes.
> It had been "created" on a Windows 7 machine where I had OOo 3.3, AOO 3.4
> and now AOO 3.4.1 installed.
> I did not remember what I did in step #2, but it was very little - I think.
>
> I am now ready to debug the c

Re: [CMS PATCH] [Iteration 1] Social Media Integration: Download Page

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
>> Am 01/17/2013 05:28 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>>> Thanks for the patch.  I'll review and commit.
>>
>>
>> Even when the patch came a bit surprisingly, it looks quite nice. And still
>> some space for additions like text or just more icons + links.
>>
>
> Sorry about that.  We've been working on this on the marketing list
> for around a month.  A new volunteer prototyped 4 variations of the

Oh, I should mention that the new volunteer (Samer Mansour) is now
working on some prototype designs to integrate like/follow links into
the homepage.

-Rob


> page, with different placement and wording for the "sharing" links.
> We then did a controlled experiment using Google Analytics to see
> which variation yielded the most shares.  That test ran for 2 weeks
> and the patch you see was to put the winning design into production.
>
> Since not everyone is on the marketing list, in the future we should
> update the dev list on what we are proposing before implementing it.
> Me bad.
>
>> The blue graphic is well fitting. Just curious, was the graphic
>> "/download/cachedimages/button-lightblue.png" already existing in SVN or is
>> it new?
>>
>
> It is new.
>
>> Let's see if it will help to spread AOO into the world better.
>>
>
> We should get around 100 shares per day.   If each person has maybe 50
> people in the social network (on average) then that is 5,000 extra
> people who may hear about AOO each day.  And since they are hearing an
> endorsement from someone they know, the effect can be quite powerful.
>
> -Rob
>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Anonymous CMS User
>>>   wrote:

 Clone URL (Committers only):

 https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/download%2F

 Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com

 Hello submitting this change to allow users to 'share' the download page
 on social media sites AOO currently has profiles on.

 Please see "[Iteration 1] Social Media Integration" thread in marketing
 mailing list for full details how this change came about or contact Rob 
 Weir
 or myself.

 First time committer, let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

 Thanks!

Re: [CMS PATCH] [Iteration 1] Social Media Integration: Download Page

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Am 01/17/2013 05:28 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> Thanks for the patch.  I'll review and commit.
>
>
> Even when the patch came a bit surprisingly, it looks quite nice. And still
> some space for additions like text or just more icons + links.
>

Sorry about that.  We've been working on this on the marketing list
for around a month.  A new volunteer prototyped 4 variations of the
page, with different placement and wording for the "sharing" links.
We then did a controlled experiment using Google Analytics to see
which variation yielded the most shares.  That test ran for 2 weeks
and the patch you see was to put the winning design into production.

Since not everyone is on the marketing list, in the future we should
update the dev list on what we are proposing before implementing it.
Me bad.

> The blue graphic is well fitting. Just curious, was the graphic
> "/download/cachedimages/button-lightblue.png" already existing in SVN or is
> it new?
>

It is new.

> Let's see if it will help to spread AOO into the world better.
>

We should get around 100 shares per day.   If each person has maybe 50
people in the social network (on average) then that is 5,000 extra
people who may hear about AOO each day.  And since they are hearing an
endorsement from someone they know, the effect can be quite powerful.

-Rob

> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Anonymous CMS User
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Clone URL (Committers only):
>>>
>>> https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/download%2F
>>>
>>> Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Hello submitting this change to allow users to 'share' the download page
>>> on social media sites AOO currently has profiles on.
>>>
>>> Please see "[Iteration 1] Social Media Integration" thread in marketing
>>> mailing list for full details how this change came about or contact Rob Weir
>>> or myself.
>>>
>>> First time committer, let me know if I'm doing something wrong.
>>>
>>> Thanks!

Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - "OpenOffice.org" --> "Apache OpenOffice"

[Andrew Rist]

On 1/17/2013 2:45 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Hi,

I have finished the renaming from "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache OpenOffice"
- see issue 121388.

Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has impact
on the following important and critical stuff:
- folder/directory names
- package names
- Windows registry key names and values
- ...

As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, the user
profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not taken over.

If possible, please review the changes in your environment/platform.
I am asking especially our community members working on the BSD platform,
Solaris platform and OS/2 platform to have a deeper look.

minor note:
We are still on version number "3.5.0".
I will work on issue 119977 to adapt the version number to "4.0". I think
I will provide the corresponding patch soon, but I will wait with the
integration in order to have enough time for testing the renaming to
"Apache OpenOffice".


Best regards, Oliver.


I have a quick question but the issue seems to answer this.

This should be included in buildbot output for "trunk" currently, correct?

Given Juergen's recent message about tag SNAPSHOT, I'm a bit confused.

The buildbot output for linux-32-nightly is working and thus should have
output, but the one for linux-32-snapshot is broken.


The snapshot is running on a different box (well, different vm), and I 
think I have something I still need to fix on the new vm.
Nightly is running ubuntu 12.04 and snapshot is on ubuntu 10.04. Thus 
the snapshot should create 'better' install packages ...


A.








On 23.11.2012 13:04, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:


Hi,

as we had changed our 'project name' from "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache
OpenOffice" it makes sense to reflect this change also in our source and
the
product based on our source.
We had already made some basic and limited renaming - start center, splash
screen, ... -, but it is not complete.

May be you remember Armin's work on it for our AOO 3.4 (incubating)
release on
branch alg/install. As Armin figured out that the change would be too
risky, we
decided to postpone this name adaption to the next major release.
Thus, I decided to pick up this issue with the goal to solve it for our
next
coming major release.

As there are certain different usages of the name and its variants - e.g.,
visible name of the product, name of the installation directory, ... -
which
impacts quite different areas of our project help is very welcome here.

I will start with investigating Armin's work and documenting the
different usages.

Best regards, Oliver.

Re: (Draft) Introduction to Development module

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Rob,

Rob Weir schrieb:

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

On 15/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote:


Thanks!  I made changes, mainly additions, based on your feedback and
earlier comments from Kay and Jan.  Here is the updated version:
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html



Good (and needed!) page. I've committed a bunch of minor fixes, see
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/site/trunk/content/orientation/intro-development.mdtext?r1=1433585&r2=1434981&diff_format=h
and feel free to revert any of them.

But, aside from these fixes, note that the named queries in Bugzilla won't
work for unauthenticated users; we should either fix the queries or make it
clear.



Is there some trick to get the query to work without authentication?


Why do you need a named query at all? The user of the page will not see 
the original link but your description text.


If you do not want to write such a long link into the source, then you 
can use the shortener and use its result. Try for example 
http://s.apache.org/GV8 (logout from bugzilla before trying it)


Kind regards
Regina

Re: New Dev Volunteer

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Stephen Carr  wrote:
> Hello my name is stephen carr i am from the uk and i am interested in all
> sorts of codeing and trying new ideas. I love open office ive used it for
> years and i think its time i gave something back to you guys by trying to
> help develop this awesome program

Hi Stephen,

Welcome to the project!  What platform were you thinking of developing on?

-Rob

Re: (Draft) Introduction to Development module

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> On 15/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!  I made changes, mainly additions, based on your feedback and
>> earlier comments from Kay and Jan.  Here is the updated version:
>> http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html
>
>
> Good (and needed!) page. I've committed a bunch of minor fixes, see
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/site/trunk/content/orientation/intro-development.mdtext?r1=1433585&r2=1434981&diff_format=h
> and feel free to revert any of them.
>
> But, aside from these fixes, note that the named queries in Bugzilla won't
> work for unauthenticated users; we should either fix the queries or make it
> clear.
>

Is there some trick to get the query to work without authentication?

-Rob

> Regards,
>   Andrea.

Re: [Extensions website] Manage files

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 17/01/2013 FR web forum wrote:

But the OXT file is corrupted.
I try to upload again but I had an error:
This version already exists for this project.
It is unable for me to delete this release.
Somebody can do it or grant me deleting right?


Can't you just unpublish it? In the new dictionaries I uploaded today, I 
made a mistake and had to unpublish a release. But I believe you already 
found the solution, since I can't see version 1.2.1 any longer at 
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/5510/releases


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re:

[Fan Zheng]

Hi, Danna:

We are so happy on seeing new coming developers in the AOO community, Thank
you!

To be a developer volunteer, you shall prepare an AOO build environment in
your local and take some AOO technical knowledge and specifications, could
commonly be found in the AOO WIKI pages. For example, the build environment
establishment document for different platforms are in here:

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide

And the structural introduction documents of AOO Text Document (named as
'SW' internally) could be retrieved here:

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer

And of cause, refer to the new coming developer guide at first:
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html , but as it
is still a draft version, tell the community directly, if there anything
should be clarified, updated or even rewrote.

Thank you again, and having fun in this opening world.

ZhengFan

2013/1/18 Alexandro Colorado 

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:04 PM, danna ioana 
> wrote:
>
> > I am from Romania, Suceava.
> >
>
>
> Buna Seara! Danna,
>
> I hope you are good, please make sure that you are correctly register to
> the list. Here is the page of the different mailing list and instructions
> to get registered.
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>
> Please let us know which skills do you have as far as being familiar with
> the software, or being involved in projects like us, or having design or
> developing skills.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: danna ioana 
> > To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:03 PM
> > Subject:
> >
> >
> > Hello. I am Deliman Ioana. I am a civil engineer by profession, and I use
> > OpenOffice for a very long time. I am interested in learning Apache
> > programs and as many new things.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://es.openoffice.org
>

Re: (Draft) Introduction to Development module

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 15/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

Thanks!  I made changes, mainly additions, based on your feedback and
earlier comments from Kay and Jan.  Here is the updated version:
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html


Good (and needed!) page. I've committed a bunch of minor fixes, see
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/site/trunk/content/orientation/intro-development.mdtext?r1=1433585&r2=1434981&diff_format=h
and feel free to revert any of them.

But, aside from these fixes, note that the named queries in Bugzilla 
won't work for unauthenticated users; we should either fix the queries 
or make it clear.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Dictionaries?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

What portion of the historical collection of spelling dictionaries
have travelled into the AOO project?


To complete Rob's answer: no dictionaries are maintained as part of the 
project. I've just packaged three dictionaries for OpenOffice 3.4.1 and 
the process works like this:
- Dictionaries are hosted on third-party sites (usually 
extensions.openoffice.org, a community site; but any other stable 
hosting will work). See for example

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/aoo-dict-no
- They are not part of the Apache sources
- By mere aggregation, we include them in binaries. See
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/extensions.lst


I'm not aware of any license changes on the dictionaries themselves in
this time period, but maybe others know more.


We did have at least one license change (Russian?) but the bundling 
mechanism is actually designed to retrieve external OXT files at build time.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: APACHE OPEN OFFICE 3.4.1. PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME!

[Alexandro Colorado]

Hi harry, probably your printer is not being seen by OpenOffice. Please
select:
File > Printer Setting
Verify that you printer is the one selected, if you are not sure, click on
the back to back trianges to see which one are available. If you cant find
the name of your printer, then you will need further assistance.


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:29 PM, harry steven <
edinburghapartm...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> I have just downloaded this Version of Open Office.Now my Printer will not
> print anything in Open Office and refers me to check my Printer
> configuration.At 74 years of age, this is all a mystery to me, so please
> tell me how I can get my Printer to print out a legal Document I need so
> urgently.Thanks you.Harry StevenEdinburgh Scotland
>




-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - "OpenOffice.org" --> "Apache OpenOffice"

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> as we had changed our 'project name' from "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache
>> OpenOffice" it makes sense to reflect this change also in our source and the
>> product based on our source.
>> We had already made some basic and limited renaming - start center, splash
>> screen, ... -, but it is not complete.
>>
>
> A question: Will this renaming effort also change library/modules
> names at a lower level, so we can more cleanly install as an
> independent app where LibreOffice has hijacked the old names?
>

Sorry, if not clear I'm talking about Linux installs.

> -Rob
>
>
>> May be you remember Armin's work on it for our AOO 3.4 (incubating) release
>> on branch alg/install. As Armin figured out that the change would be too
>> risky, we decided to postpone this name adaption to the next major release.
>> Thus, I decided to pick up this issue with the goal to solve it for our next
>> coming major release.
>>
>> As there are certain different usages of the name and its variants - e.g.,
>> visible name of the product, name of the installation directory, ... - which
>> impacts quite different areas of our project help is very welcome here.
>>
>> I will start with investigating Armin's work and documenting the different
>> usages.
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.

Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - "OpenOffice.org" --> "Apache OpenOffice"

[Rob Weir]

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> as we had changed our 'project name' from "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache
> OpenOffice" it makes sense to reflect this change also in our source and the
> product based on our source.
> We had already made some basic and limited renaming - start center, splash
> screen, ... -, but it is not complete.
>

A question: Will this renaming effort also change library/modules
names at a lower level, so we can more cleanly install as an
independent app where LibreOffice has hijacked the old names?

-Rob


> May be you remember Armin's work on it for our AOO 3.4 (incubating) release
> on branch alg/install. As Armin figured out that the change would be too
> risky, we decided to postpone this name adaption to the next major release.
> Thus, I decided to pick up this issue with the goal to solve it for our next
> coming major release.
>
> As there are certain different usages of the name and its variants - e.g.,
> visible name of the product, name of the installation directory, ... - which
> impacts quite different areas of our project help is very welcome here.
>
> I will start with investigating Armin's work and documenting the different
> usages.
>
> Best regards, Oliver.

[Extensions website] Manage files

[FR web forum]

Dear list,

I submited an extension: PixCompress.
I added a new release: 1.2.1
But the OXT file is corrupted.
I try to upload again but I had an error:
This version already exists for this project.
It is unable for me to delete this release.
Somebody can do it or grant me deleting right?

Thanks

Re: Orientation Module 2: Decision Making

[Kay Schenk]

Hello Rebecca--

Thanks for letting us know about your progress! Keep it up and we hope to
hear more from you soon!

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Rebecca Williams wrote:

> I have completed the Orientation: Decision Making Module.
>



-- 

MzK

"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
 --
Aesop

Re: OpenOffice for AIX

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> The last real activities on the AIX port were in 2003 and IMHO the leader
> was Ken Foskey:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=13620
>
> Maybe he is still available via the mail address and could help you.
>
> HTH

The OP might also want to give a read to this IBM Redbook
ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/AIX/docs/runninglinuxappsonaix.pdf

FC




-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell

Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - "OpenOffice.org" --> "Apache OpenOffice"

[Kay Schenk]

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have finished the renaming from "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache OpenOffice"
> - see issue 121388.
>
> Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has impact
> on the following important and critical stuff:
> - folder/directory names
> - package names
> - Windows registry key names and values
> - ...
>
> As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, the user
> profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not taken over.
>
> If possible, please review the changes in your environment/platform.
> I am asking especially our community members working on the BSD platform,
> Solaris platform and OS/2 platform to have a deeper look.
>
> minor note:
> We are still on version number "3.5.0".
> I will work on issue 119977 to adapt the version number to "4.0". I think
> I will provide the corresponding patch soon, but I will wait with the
> integration in order to have enough time for testing the renaming to
> "Apache OpenOffice".
>
>
> Best regards, Oliver.


I have a quick question but the issue seems to answer this.

This should be included in buildbot output for "trunk" currently, correct?

Given Juergen's recent message about tag SNAPSHOT, I'm a bit confused.

The buildbot output for linux-32-nightly is working and thus should have
output, but the one for linux-32-snapshot is broken.




>
>
> On 23.11.2012 13:04, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> as we had changed our 'project name' from "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache
>> OpenOffice" it makes sense to reflect this change also in our source and
>> the
>> product based on our source.
>> We had already made some basic and limited renaming - start center, splash
>> screen, ... -, but it is not complete.
>>
>> May be you remember Armin's work on it for our AOO 3.4 (incubating)
>> release on
>> branch alg/install. As Armin figured out that the change would be too
>> risky, we
>> decided to postpone this name adaption to the next major release.
>> Thus, I decided to pick up this issue with the goal to solve it for our
>> next
>> coming major release.
>>
>> As there are certain different usages of the name and its variants - e.g.,
>> visible name of the product, name of the installation directory, ... -
>> which
>> impacts quite different areas of our project help is very welcome here.
>>
>> I will start with investigating Armin's work and documenting the
>> different usages.
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>


-- 

MzK

"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
 --
Aesop

Re: [CMS PATCH] [Iteration 1] Social Media Integration: Download Page

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 01/17/2013 05:28 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

Thanks for the patch.  I'll review and commit.


Even when the patch came a bit surprisingly, it looks quite nice. And 
still some space for additions like text or just more icons + links.


The blue graphic is well fitting. Just curious, was the graphic 
"/download/cachedimages/button-lightblue.png" already existing in SVN or 
is it new?


Let's see if it will help to spread AOO into the world better.

Marcus




On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Anonymous CMS User
  wrote:

Clone URL (Committers only):
https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/download%2F

Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com

Hello submitting this change to allow users to 'share' the download page on 
social media sites AOO currently has profiles on.

Please see "[Iteration 1] Social Media Integration" thread in marketing mailing 
list for full details how this change came about or contact Rob Weir or myself.

First time committer, let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

Thanks!

Volunteer

[Alfonso Émbriz]

Hi,
I'm Alfonso Émbriz from León, México. I'm new to ASF but willing to help in
OO project in all the tasks given to me. I've already added my info to the
volunteers page.
I'm interested in user oriented chores such as documentation, localization
(LA spanish, I'm good at it), tutorials, etc.
I hope to read from you very soon.

SIncerely,
Alfonso Émbriz

Re: OpenOffice for AIX

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 01/17/2013 03:13 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Андрей Белокозовwrote:


Hello! My name is Andrey. I work in a company "Nation Information of
Technologies" in Kazakhstan. I need to install Apache OpenOffice on AIX
5.3. I know that Apache OpenOffice don't support for AIX officially. Is it
possible to build special installer for AIX? Can you help me or send to me
some links to resources that describe process of building and installation
Apache OpenOffice on AIX.

**




Thanks for contacting the Apache OpenOffice project.  Currently there is no
one maintaining the AIX port of OpenOffice.  This means it would require
some development work to get the current OpenOffice code to compile and run
on that platform.

You can find more information on porting here, including links to technical
information: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

If you have a serious interest in an AIX port and are willing to help with
the technical work, it might be worth us posting a "call for volunteers" on
our project blog, to see if anyone else is interested in helping with an
AIX port.  If another 4 or 5 people are interested in helping, and they
have the right skills, then this could be possible.   That is how open
source software works -- finding the critical mass of people willing to
work together on the same task.


A litte addition:

The last real activities on the AIX port were in 2003 and IMHO the 
leader was Ken Foskey:


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=13620

Maybe he is still available via the mail address and could help you.

HTH

Marcus

Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0

[Hagar Delest]

Le 17/01/2013 03:16, Rob Weir a écrit :

So let's play detective here, and "think like a bug".  If something
went wrong, what are likely causes?


I just remember this one on the forum very recently:
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=58773

Extensions may be involved, perhaps because of an update process?

I should be able to have access to a crashing profile this weekend (depends on 
the weather and the snow on the road...)

Hagar

Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0

[Hagar Delest]

Le 17/01/2013 03:16, Rob Weir a écrit :

So let's play detective here, and "think like a bug".  If something
went wrong, what are likely causes?

-- The profile conversion can't be totally broken or it would fail for
every upgrade


The crashes can occur even with a brand new installation so the profile 
conversion is not the first thing to look at (and it was deactivated from AOO 
3.4.0 IIRC).



-- It cannot depend on a very rare situation, like a specific macro
import or a rarely used extension, otherwise we would not see many
reports at all.


Indeed. And see above, it occurs with fresh installations.



So what is in the middle?   Volume of changes?  Exceeding a specific
string length?  Some data type conversion issue?  Locale dependency?
Character set conversion?


Volume of changes: since it can happen almost immediately after installation, I 
would say it's a dead end.
String length: could be; but why resetting the profile should fix it? Except if 
there is a voluntary tweaking by the user (rather rare).

Hagar

Re: Fisheye setup?

[Kay Schenk]

On 01/17/2013 04:39 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:

Hi Kay,

On 17.01.2013 00:42, Kay Schenk wrote:

A week or so ago, fisheye6 just tanked. Now, it's up again, but given
the size of our svn repository (this includes all branches and web
sites), I am informed this may take some time (week or so) to regen.


thanks for the status update! When I saw that their ooo pages where out
of date I checked with ASF infra about our relationship with Atlassian
and then filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5765

Please update or close this issue if it interferes with what is already
going on.

Herbert


Herbert --

I don't think I can close this, so if you could, please close this.

We have fisheye linked on our source page:

http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html

I will put a link in to opengrok here as well in just a bit.

Something things just need to sort themselves out I guess.

--

MzK

"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
 -- Aesop

Re:

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:04 PM, danna ioana  wrote:

> I am from Romania, Suceava.
>


Buna Seara! Danna,

I hope you are good, please make sure that you are correctly register to
the list. Here is the page of the different mailing list and instructions
to get registered.
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

Please let us know which skills do you have as far as being familiar with
the software, or being involved in projects like us, or having design or
developing skills.

Regards.



>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: danna ioana 
> To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:03 PM
> Subject:
>
>
> Hello. I am Deliman Ioana. I am a civil engineer by profession, and I use
> OpenOffice for a very long time. I am interested in learning Apache
> programs and as many new things.




-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org

Re:

[danna ioana]

I am from Romania, Suceava.





 From: danna ioana 
To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org"  
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: 
 

Hello. I am Deliman Ioana. I am a civil engineer by profession, and I use 
OpenOffice for a very long time. I am interested in learning Apache programs 
and as many new things.

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

[Drew Jensen]

Excellent.

Well, why wait - made those changes, found a couple of typos and did a
little hard formatting to let it breath a bit more on the second page.

Both of the drop box files are updated. Barring any other requests, will
call that done.


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Drew Jensen 
> wrote:
> > I updated the font (ubuntu) all the way around.
> > Rewrote the last column of second page, ehh to be honest.
> >
> > - still not the first two paragraphs though - any thoughts on what you
> want
> > to say there.
> > Or other comments
> >
>
> Some quick comments.
>
> 1 -- the first paragraph is really weak.  "Subsequent to a transfer of
> rights"  "Hence"?  A bit bureaucratic.  Why not just take our
> standard opening, from the "Why OpenOffice?" Page:
>
> "Apache OpenOffice is the leading open-source office software suite
> for word processing, spreadsheets, presentations, graphics, databases
> and more. It is available in many languages and works on all common
> computers. It stores all your data in an international open standard
> format and can also read and write files from other common office
> software packages. It can be downloaded and used completely free of
> charge for any purpose."
>
> We should be promoting the product, not giving free history lessons.
>
> 2 -- The trademark acknowledgement in the footer is wrong.  For
> example, the feather logo is not being used at all. And we're claiming
> a trademark on "Apache OpenOffice" not on "OpenOffice".
>
> So better would be something like this:
>
> "Apache OpenOffice is a trademark of The Apache Software Foundation.
> OpenOffice.org and the seagull logo are registered trademarks of The
> Apache Software Foundation."
>
> 3 -- the "Can I participate?" section sends users to the users mailing
> list.  Is that what we want.  I would have thought sending them to the
> dev list would be better.  Or even better: Link to
> http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html which will get them to
> the right information faster.
>
> 4 --On back side -- It should be Open Document Format with a space and
> capital 'F' (two places).
>
> Otherwise this looks great -- thanks, Drew!
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> > updated odt and a pdf as it is now at
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/aef3a6fz44yrwft/AOO%20Flyer.odt
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/xx62g6knl2s44ce/AOO%20Flyer.pdf
> >
> > Otherwise, will come back to this later today.
> >
> > One other thing, this isn't really what I would call a FOSDEM piece IMO..
> > but more on that later.
> >
> > //drew
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti  >wrote:
> >
> >> On 16/01/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK, well I made a couple more small edits and pushed it to dropbox
> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/**aef3a6fz44yrwft/AOO%20Flyer.**odt<
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/aef3a6fz44yrwft/AOO%20Flyer.odt>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks, looks very nice! I uploaded it to
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >> FOSDEM+2013+Organization<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+Organization
> >
> >>
> >> There will be a couple tweaks to apply (including replacement of the
> Comic
> >> Sans font, which is known to be very unpopular among geeks) but this
> flyer
> >> will be very useful at FOSDEM and hopefully elsewhere.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>   Andrea.
> >>
>

Re: Dictionaries?

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> What portion of the historical collection of spelling dictionaries
> have travelled into the AOO project? Once upon a time, the dictionary
> source data for various languages was marked up with all sorts of
> 'category X' licenses. Have any of these been relicensed or otherwise
> pulled under the AL umbrella?

We took this through legal-discuss last year, and it was approved as
falling under the "mere aggregation" clause of GPL, so not triggering
copyleft considerations.

See:  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117

I'm not aware of any license changes on the dictionaries themselves in
this time period, but maybe others know more.

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Drew Jensen  wrote:
> I updated the font (ubuntu) all the way around.
> Rewrote the last column of second page, ehh to be honest.
>
> - still not the first two paragraphs though - any thoughts on what you want
> to say there.
> Or other comments
>

Some quick comments.

1 -- the first paragraph is really weak.  "Subsequent to a transfer of
rights"  "Hence"?  A bit bureaucratic.  Why not just take our
standard opening, from the "Why OpenOffice?" Page:

"Apache OpenOffice is the leading open-source office software suite
for word processing, spreadsheets, presentations, graphics, databases
and more. It is available in many languages and works on all common
computers. It stores all your data in an international open standard
format and can also read and write files from other common office
software packages. It can be downloaded and used completely free of
charge for any purpose."

We should be promoting the product, not giving free history lessons.

2 -- The trademark acknowledgement in the footer is wrong.  For
example, the feather logo is not being used at all. And we're claiming
a trademark on "Apache OpenOffice" not on "OpenOffice".

So better would be something like this:

"Apache OpenOffice is a trademark of The Apache Software Foundation.
OpenOffice.org and the seagull logo are registered trademarks of The
Apache Software Foundation."

3 -- the "Can I participate?" section sends users to the users mailing
list.  Is that what we want.  I would have thought sending them to the
dev list would be better.  Or even better: Link to
http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html which will get them to
the right information faster.

4 --On back side -- It should be Open Document Format with a space and
capital 'F' (two places).

Otherwise this looks great -- thanks, Drew!

Regards,

-Rob

> updated odt and a pdf as it is now at
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/aef3a6fz44yrwft/AOO%20Flyer.odt
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xx62g6knl2s44ce/AOO%20Flyer.pdf
>
> Otherwise, will come back to this later today.
>
> One other thing, this isn't really what I would call a FOSDEM piece IMO..
> but more on that later.
>
> //drew
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> On 16/01/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
>>
>>> OK, well I made a couple more small edits and pushed it to dropbox
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/**aef3a6fz44yrwft/AOO%20Flyer.**odt
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, looks very nice! I uploaded it to
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> FOSDEM+2013+Organization
>>
>> There will be a couple tweaks to apply (including replacement of the Comic
>> Sans font, which is known to be very unpopular among geeks) but this flyer
>> will be very useful at FOSDEM and hopefully elsewhere.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

[Drew Jensen]

I updated the font (ubuntu) all the way around.
Rewrote the last column of second page, ehh to be honest.

- still not the first two paragraphs though - any thoughts on what you want
to say there.
Or other comments

updated odt and a pdf as it is now at

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aef3a6fz44yrwft/AOO%20Flyer.odt
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xx62g6knl2s44ce/AOO%20Flyer.pdf

Otherwise, will come back to this later today.

One other thing, this isn't really what I would call a FOSDEM piece IMO..
but more on that later.

//drew


On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> On 16/01/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
>
>> OK, well I made a couple more small edits and pushed it to dropbox
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/**aef3a6fz44yrwft/AOO%20Flyer.**odt
>>
>
> Thanks, looks very nice! I uploaded it to
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> FOSDEM+2013+Organization
>
> There will be a couple tweaks to apply (including replacement of the Comic
> Sans font, which is known to be very unpopular among geeks) but this flyer
> will be very useful at FOSDEM and hopefully elsewhere.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

Re: [CMS PATCH] [Iteration 1] Social Media Integration: Download Page

[Rob Weir]

Thanks for the patch.  I'll review and commit.

-Rob

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Anonymous CMS User
 wrote:
> Clone URL (Committers only):
> https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/download%2F
>
> Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com
>
> Hello submitting this change to allow users to 'share' the download page on 
> social media sites AOO currently has profiles on.
>
> Please see "[Iteration 1] Social Media Integration" thread in marketing 
> mailing list for full details how this change came about or contact Rob Weir 
> or myself.
>
> First time committer, let me know if I'm doing something wrong.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Index: trunk/content/download/exceptions.css
> ===
> --- trunk/content/download/exceptions.css   (revision 1434510)
> +++ trunk/content/download/exceptions.css   (working copy)
> @@ -50,6 +50,13 @@
>  .sub-blue { background: #E1E1FF; border-top: 1px solid #D1D1FF; 
> border-bottom: 1px solid #D1D1FF; font-size: .8em; }
>  .sub-blue p { padding: .1em 3%; width: 94%; }
>
> +.lightblue { background: url(/download/cachedimages/button-lightblue.png) 
> #D8E5F6 right 0 no-repeat; }
> +.lightblue:hover { background: 
> url(/download/cachedimages/button-lightblue.png) #C3D9F1 right -200px 
> no-repeat; }
> +.lightblue h2 a { color: #2D72CE; }
> +.lightblue:hover h2 a, #bodycol .lightblue h2 a:hover { color: #21549A; }
> +.sub-lightblue { background: #E1E1FF; border-top: 1px solid #D1D1FF; 
> border-bottom: 1px solid #D1D1FF; font-size: .8em; }
> +.sub-lightblue p { padding: .1em 3%; width: 94%; }
> +
>  .yellow { background: url(/download/cachedimages/button-yellow.png) #FFF379 
> right top no-repeat; }
>  .yellow:hover { background: url(/download/cachedimages/button-yellow.png) 
> #FFF24F right -200px no-repeat; }
>  .yellow h2 a { color: #E09C09; }
> Index: trunk/content/download/index.html
> ===
> --- trunk/content/download/index.html   (revision 1434510)
> +++ trunk/content/download/index.html   (working copy)
> @@ -61,6 +61,20 @@
>/* ]]> */
>
>
> +  
> +   function shareFacebook() {
> +   
> window.open('https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2F','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
> +   }
> +
> +   function shareTwitter(){
> +   
> window.open('https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2F&text=Join+the+OpenOffice+revolution%2C+the+free+office+productivity+suite+with+over+30+million+trusted+downloads.&hashtags=openoffice','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
> +   }
> +
> +   function shareGooglePlus(){
> +   
> window.open('https://plus.google.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2F','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
> +   }
> +  
> +
>  
>
>  
> @@ -136,6 +150,17 @@
>
>
>
> +  
> +  
> +   Social Media
> +
> + Please tell your friends about Apache OpenOffice.
> +  href="javascript:shareFacebook(); "> />
> +  href="javascript:shareTwitter(); "> />
> +  href="javascript:shareGooglePlus(); "> src='images/logo-googleplus-32.png'  />
> +   
> +  
> +
>  
> onclick="openItem('optionitem3','http://extensions.services.openoffice.org');
>  return false;">
>

[CMS PATCH] [Iteration 1] Social Media Integration: Download Page

[Anonymous CMS User]

Clone URL (Committers only):
https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/download%2F

Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com

Hello submitting this change to allow users to 'share' the download page on 
social media sites AOO currently has profiles on.

Please see "[Iteration 1] Social Media Integration" thread in marketing mailing 
list for full details how this change came about or contact Rob Weir or myself.

First time committer, let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

Thanks!

Index: trunk/content/download/exceptions.css
===
--- trunk/content/download/exceptions.css   (revision 1434510)
+++ trunk/content/download/exceptions.css   (working copy)
@@ -50,6 +50,13 @@
 .sub-blue { background: #E1E1FF; border-top: 1px solid #D1D1FF; border-bottom: 
1px solid #D1D1FF; font-size: .8em; }
 .sub-blue p { padding: .1em 3%; width: 94%; }
 
+.lightblue { background: url(/download/cachedimages/button-lightblue.png) 
#D8E5F6 right 0 no-repeat; }
+.lightblue:hover { background: 
url(/download/cachedimages/button-lightblue.png) #C3D9F1 right -200px 
no-repeat; }
+.lightblue h2 a { color: #2D72CE; }
+.lightblue:hover h2 a, #bodycol .lightblue h2 a:hover { color: #21549A; }
+.sub-lightblue { background: #E1E1FF; border-top: 1px solid #D1D1FF; 
border-bottom: 1px solid #D1D1FF; font-size: .8em; }
+.sub-lightblue p { padding: .1em 3%; width: 94%; }
+
 .yellow { background: url(/download/cachedimages/button-yellow.png) #FFF379 
right top no-repeat; }
 .yellow:hover { background: url(/download/cachedimages/button-yellow.png) 
#FFF24F right -200px no-repeat; }
 .yellow h2 a { color: #E09C09; }
Index: trunk/content/download/index.html
===
--- trunk/content/download/index.html   (revision 1434510)
+++ trunk/content/download/index.html   (working copy)
@@ -61,6 +61,20 @@
   /* ]]> */
   
 
+  
+   function shareFacebook() {
+   
window.open('https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2F','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
   
+   }
+   
+   function shareTwitter(){
+   
window.open('https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2F&text=Join+the+OpenOffice+revolution%2C+the+free+office+productivity+suite+with+over+30+million+trusted+downloads.&hashtags=openoffice','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
+   }
+   
+   function shareGooglePlus(){
+   
window.open('https://plus.google.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fdownload%2F','_blank','toolbar=0,status=0,width=580,height=325');
+   }
+  
+   
 
 
 
@@ -136,6 +150,17 @@
   
   
 
+  
+  
+   Social Media
+
+ Please tell your friends about Apache OpenOffice.
+ 
+ 
+   
+   
+  
+   
 
   http://extensions.services.openoffice.org');
 return false;">

Re: Interested in Contributing

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Bonnie Smith Ries
 wrote:
> I am a newbie to the community-created software world.  I am not a
> programmer, but I have a degree in English from Columbia in New York, and I
> fluently speak, read and write Spanish.  I would love to help compose
> and/or proofread your English documentation, as well as help minimally with
> Spanish translation.  I currently live in Utah, USA.  I look forward to
> working on the OO project!
>

Hi Bonnie,

Thanks for writing and expressing an interest in volunteering with the
Apache OpenOffice project!

We're just starting up an effort to prepare new user documentation for
Apache OpenOffice 4.0, expected before mid-year.   We're currently
outlining the user guides and discussing some technical matters on how
we will do the work. So it is a great time to get involved.   Since
this is an international project, with most volunteers speaking
English as a 2nd or 3rd language, having a strong proofreader is
excellent.  And even with native speakers we need someone to
adjudicate American versus British variations!

I'd urge you to subscribe to our documentation mailing list by sending
an email to doc-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org.  After sending that
email you will receive a confirmation note.  When you respond to that
note you will then be subscribed to the mailing list.

Regards,

-Rob



> Cordially,
>
> Bonnie Smith Ries

Re: License information for Open Office

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Richard Moore IS Business Officer -
SACM Service Delivery Management  wrote:
> Hello,
> Essex libraries are investigating to install Open Office on the Peoples 
> Network machines in all libraries.
> This cover 750 public facing PC's across the county.
> Please can you inform me of the license implications of doing this?
>

Hi Richard,

Apache OpenOffice is open source software, published under the Apache
License 2.0.  You can read the complete license here:

http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

and a plain-English summary of what it means here:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html#WhatDoesItMEAN

As Ian mentioned, we're always glad to hear the details of successful
adoptions of OpenOffice, so we can use them for promoting our
non-profit work, but this is not required.

Regards,

-Rob


> Thanks
>
> Richard Moore
> Service Asset and Configuration Management
> Information Services
>
> Essex County Council | telephone:07769 164317 | 
> email:richard.moo...@essex.gov.uk
>
> This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the recipient(s) 
> named above. It may contain confidential or privileged information and should 
> not be read, copied or otherwise used by any other person unless express 
> permission is given. If you are not a named recipient, please contact the 
> sender and delete the email from your system. It is the recipient's 
> responsibility to ensure that appropriate measures are in place to check for 
> software viruses.

Re: License information for Open Office

[Ian Lynch]

On 17 January 2013 11:49, Richard Moore IS Business Officer - SACM
Service Delivery Management  wrote:
> Hello,
> Essex libraries are investigating to install Open Office on the Peoples 
> Network machines in all libraries.
> This cover 750 public facing PC's across the county.
> Please can you inform me of the license implications of doing this?

There are no licensing implications. You are free to put Apache Open
Office (AOO) on as many computers as you want to without paying any
license fees at all. It is good for us to know how many computers are
running AOO but there are no conditions to do so on use.


> Thanks
>
> Richard Moore
> Service Asset and Configuration Management
> Information Services
>
> Essex County Council | telephone:07769 164317 | 
> email:richard.moo...@essex.gov.uk
>
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> named above. It may contain confidential or privileged information and should 
> not be read, copied or otherwise used by any other person unless express 
> permission is given. If you are not a named recipient, please contact the 
> sender and delete the email from your system. It is the recipient's 
> responsibility to ensure that appropriate measures are in place to check for 
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License information for Open Office

[Richard Moore IS Business Officer - SACM Service Delivery Management]

Hello,
Essex libraries are investigating to install Open Office on the Peoples Network 
machines in all libraries.
This cover 750 public facing PC's across the county.
Please can you inform me of the license implications of doing this?

Thanks

Richard Moore
Service Asset and Configuration Management
Information Services

Essex County Council | telephone:07769 164317 | 
email:richard.moo...@essex.gov.uk

This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the recipient(s) 
named above. It may contain confidential or privileged information and should 
not be read, copied or otherwise used by any other person unless express 
permission is given. If you are not a named recipient, please contact the 
sender and delete the email from your system. It is the recipient's 
responsibility to ensure that appropriate measures are in place to check for 
software viruses.

Re: OpenOffice for AIX

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Андрей Белокозов wrote:

> Hello! My name is Andrey. I work in a company "Nation Information of
> Technologies" in Kazakhstan. I need to install Apache OpenOffice on AIX
> 5.3. I know that Apache OpenOffice don't support for AIX officially. Is it
> possible to build special installer for AIX? Can you help me or send to me
> some links to resources that describe process of building and installation
> Apache OpenOffice on AIX.
>
> **
>


Thanks for contacting the Apache OpenOffice project.  Currently there is no
one maintaining the AIX port of OpenOffice.  This means it would require
some development work to get the current OpenOffice code to compile and run
on that platform.

You can find more information on porting here, including links to technical
information: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

If you have a serious interest in an AIX port and are willing to help with
the technical work, it might be worth us posting a "call for volunteers" on
our project blog, to see if anyone else is interested in helping with an
AIX port.  If another 4 or 5 people are interested in helping, and they
have the right skills, then this could be possible.   That is how open
source software works -- finding the critical mass of people willing to
work together on the same task.

Regards,

-Rob



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Re: Fisheye setup?

[Herbert Duerr]

Hi Kay,

On 17.01.2013 00:42, Kay Schenk wrote:

A week or so ago, fisheye6 just tanked. Now, it's up again, but given
the size of our svn repository (this includes all branches and web
sites), I am informed this may take some time (week or so) to regen.


thanks for the status update! When I saw that their ooo pages where out 
of date I checked with ASF infra about our relationship with Atlassian 
and then filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5765


Please update or close this issue if it interferes with what is already 
going on.


Herbert

Re: [UX] Five new presentation template design

[Xin Li]

Hi Mechtilde,

For now, we do not have new template design for business cards with AOO
Logo. Maybe we will do some in the future.

I don't know whether there have before. Please try find by the link:
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/templates/categories

Thanks.

2013/1/14 Mechtilde 

>
> Hello
>
> are there also some new templates for business cards with an actuall AOO
> Logo.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Mechtilde
>
> Am 14.01.2013 01:56, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >
> >
> > On 01/08/2013 11:25 PM, Xin Li wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> We have some new presentation template design and have uploaded five new
> >> templates. Welcome to have a try and give me some feedback.  Thanks.
> >>
> >> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9165
> >> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9169
> >> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9171
> >> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9173
> >> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9175
> >>
> >
> > Very nice. Thanks.
>
>
>


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Best regards,
Xin Li   李欣
UX designer