date:20130416

Hi Ricardo,

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES  wrote:
> Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by
> Ariel from here
>
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/
>
> (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build),
> installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean
> profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot:
> the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, the icons on the
> Paragraph panel are on the wrong place and the sidebar navigator on Draw
> and Impress show nothing...
>
> Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work?

I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits:
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png

I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but
use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types.

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Re: Volunteers from Brazil ?

2013/4/16 Albino B Neto :
> We have volunteers: programmers, l10n, QA, etc, of AOO in Brazil, here ?

Have an mailing in pt-br.

geral-p...@openoffice.apache.org

Subscribe:

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Re: [RELEASE]: weekly developer snapshots

Hi Ricardo,

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:52 PM, RGB ES  wrote:
> I tried a couple of times to download the ARC file but failed: kget
> complains that cannot check the integrity and in fact the checksums do not
> match. The rpm pack downloaded without problems.

It seems there was a problem uploading that file (all the others pass
gpg --verify), I uploaded it again, now it should be fine.

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Volunteers from Brazil ?

Hi
We have volunteers: programmers, l10n, QA, etc, of AOO in Brazil, here ?

#research #statics

Albino

Re: Will you take the AOO Community Survey?

2013-04-16 Thread Rob Weir

Reminder:  If you have not yet filled out the survey, please try to submit
results before the end of the week.

Thanks!

-Rob


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> http://www.openofficesurvey.org//index.php?sid=92484&lang=en
>
> This is intended to be a fun survey for AOO community members and a test
> of whether LimeSurvey is a good tool for us to use.
>
> Aside for the interesting data we might get about the AOO project, this
> test survey will help us try out the LimeSurvey software.  This experience
> will help us better design and execute a larger survey of end users at a
> later point in time.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>

std::stringstream aStrStream

2013-04-16 Thread jorge ivan poot diaz

Hello,

I am modifying this code in AOO:
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/cui/source/tabpages/tpcolor.cxx#465

I'm trying to concatenate with stringstream but I have errors when I'am
building:

1- I already included:
#include 

2- I have added the following code:
http://imagebin.org/254288

3- This is the error:
http://imagebin.org/254289

Help me, regards!!

Re: Sidebar merged into trunk

2013-04-16 Thread RGB ES

2013/4/15 RGB ES 

> 2013/4/14 RGB ES 
>
>> 2013/4/14 Ariel Constenla-Haile 
>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:02:40PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>> > Hi Ricardo,
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 03:15:01AM +0200, RGB ES wrote:
>>> > > The sidebar is just gorgeous! The Properties deck on Draw is a
>>> blessing!
>>> > > I'm trying the dev builds and the sidebar works almost perfectly. I
>>> filled
>>> > > two reports and one request for small problems I found, (bugs 122047,
>>> > > 122048 and 122049), but overall it is a huge step forward on the UI.
>>> > > Congratulations!
>>> >
>>> > I cannot reproduce
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122047
>>> > nor https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122048 (see
>>> > http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops.png)
>>> > May be you got an incremental build from the build bot that screwed
>>> things
>>> > up.
>>>
>>> I've just seen https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122052
>>> Not reproducible by Regina, nor with my build from current trunk. That
>>> build bot's builds are indeed screwed up.
>>
>>
>> OK, I just asked some friends to test the builds from the build bot on
>> other systems to confirm that it's a problem from the build bot and not
>> some gremlin on my system.
>>
>
> Without surprise, my friend confirmed the problem with the Linux binary
> from the build bot. Do I need to close the issues?
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>


Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by
Ariel from here

http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/

(rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build),
installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean
profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot:
the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, the icons on the
Paragraph panel are on the wrong place and the sidebar navigator on Draw
and Impress show nothing...

Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work?

Regards
Ricardo



>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> May be we should coordinate
>>> a weekly Developer Snapshot from now on, this will also make things
>>> easier for QA people.
>>>
>>
>> +1!!
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> --
>>> Ariel Constenla-Haile
>>> La Plata, Argentina
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [RELEASE]: weekly developer snapshots

2013-04-16 Thread RGB ES

2013/4/16 Ariel Constenla-Haile 

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:46:10AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > MacOS and Windows snapshot builds are uploaded. Keep in mind that it is
> > a build with system integration.
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets
>
> Linux builds are there too. The ARC column contains "archived"
> installations, no need to install RPMs/DEBs, simply untar the archive.
>

I tried a couple of times to download the ARC file but failed: kget
complains that cannot check the integrity and in fact the checksums do not
match. The rpm pack downloaded without problems.

Regards
Ricardo




>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>

Re: "Easy hack" for website

2013-04-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 15/04/2013 Michal Hriň wrote:

I added little patch to BZ, can you check it ?
If everything will be all right, I'll continue with this work.


Michal, remember you are a committer. So, when you are confident, you 
can use "svn commit" and commit your code directly to the repository. 
The website will be actually updated only when someone (can be you, but 
any other committer too) publishes your changes.


So, if it is more comfortable for you, you can commit your changes and 
ask on the list for someone to review and publish them. This should be 
more straightforward than generating and submitting a patch.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-16 Thread Samer Mansour

Armin,

The application icons may differ from the logo.  Are you talking about
these:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/02+-+Design+Proposal+Samer+Mansour+2013.03.03

It may have been the first version of that that I removed a few months
back. There was some design faux pas in that icon set.

Please check sibling pages. I haven't deleted anything in the wiki. I've
copied pages and then deleted content to make summaries.
On Apr 16, 2013 9:03 AM, "Armin Le Grand"  wrote:

> Hi Samer,
>
> thanks for working on the overview! Despite that, I'm missing the
> 'App-Icon'-like ones, I do no longer know whwre these were or from whom.
> It's the rectangular ones (like the famous 'App'-icons for various
> AppStores, in our Blue, with the Seagulls, also with slight lighting
> effect. I consider these a good and modern alternative.
> Could we please add these to the selection (if we find them again, of
> course)...?
>
> Sincerely,
> Armin
>
> On 14.04.2013 00:42, Samer Mansour wrote:
>
>> Summary of feedback (which I found made points):
>>
>> Samer - Lets go flat, its strong in all aspects brought up.
>> Kay S. - Agrees with flat logo. Poll should be limited to few.
>> Robin - Wordmarks need more attention (not logo specific), Vasilis logo is
>> cool, downside too different. Robin made a similar refresh with/without
>> feather. Scales his orb down, no indication for his logo preference (he
>> did
>> submit one more). Agrees technical aspect of print, but its not deciding
>> factor (I agree but it should be satisfied).
>> Dave F - Wordmark needs attention as well, likes flat logo.
>> Dennis - Check with trademark@
>> Andrea - Likes orb, not a fan of flat (as its been used as a surrogate in
>> the past due to limitations).
>> Alexandro - alters Robins logo.
>> Juergen - What about stand alone logo for buttons, stickers. Proposes we
>> should poll.
>> Kadal - "Because companies do it, we shouldn't?" - not sure that is
>> convincing b/c they pay expert designers.
>> Vasilis - Likes flat, but wordmark not so much.
>> Milo - Likes flat, but workmark needs changing, TM placement too.
>> Rob - Poll, but its not decision making. PMC decides in end. PMC likes
>> data, more the better (ie. poll data). "Consider conferences and booth
>> materials, CD prints, etc."
>> Janl - Agrees poll for decision is bad idea, but poll for data is good.
>> "Keep it similar to classic orb". "Doesn't have to be flat" but Janl
>> doesn't state outright if flat is bad.
>> Graham L - "Logo is not a computer icon". Print is a huge part of
>> marketing. Print good -> electronically good, but not necessarily other
>> way
>> around.
>>
>> I could set up a visual poll and share multiple time over facebook and
>> social media.
>> http://freeonlinesurveys.com/**app/showpoll.asp?qid=244375&**
>> sid=xz7athj6ytcg4mb244375&new=**True
>>
>> Respond with your favourite 3 logo please, or top 2 or 1. The logos that
>> score the least will be eliminated:
>>
>> 1. Flattened Logo
>> 2. Kevin G. Flat Feather.
>> 3. third pick abstained.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Ian Lynch  wrote:
>>
>>  On 13 April 2013 16:25, Graham Lauder  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Milos,
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Milosh Vujnovic wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and logos.
>> Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared
>> during logo design process. This includes color and black&white
>> version (on light and dark background).
>>
>> I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely used
>> anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business
>> cards, letterheads and other stationery, and so on.
>>
> But OpenOffice is a desktop application. For me, this means the main
> focus should be in a logo that looks good everywhere where it is mainly
> used, in the user's desktop (even in the window title bar) and the
> website (even in the website favicon). Thus, IMHO, printing has the
> lowest priority.
>
>
> Regards
>
 I have been keeping out of this conversation because I don't have time
 at
 the
 moment to give sufficient focus to OO, but I have been reading the list

>>> as
>>>
 I
 am able.  The above statement however prompts me to respond.

 The main focus of the logo is to identify and attract. The statement

>>> above
>>>
 shows a limited understanding of marketing.  The advent of computers has
 far
 from given us a paperless office, it has in fact increased paper usage

>>> by a
>>>
 huge margin.  Print media is a hugely significant part of marketing
 collateral.  Flyers, posters CD sleeves and labels, business cards etc.
 Whenever reviews are printed in magazines there should be a logo with
 the

Re: Blog account

2013-04-16 Thread Marcus (OOo)


Am 04/15/2013 02:27 PM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

On 10.04.2013 14:17, Rob Weir wrote:

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Andre Fischer  wrote:


Hi,

I would like to blog about the sidebar but do not yet have an account.
What should be my next steps? Is there any documentation?



First need to get an account through Infra, and then have an AOO blog
admin
add you as an editor:


I got the account, now I would need an invitation from one of the local
blog admins.
Please?


I've sent you an invitation. I hope it arrives as I don't have seen a 
confirmation.


Marcus

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Re: Compile AOO on Debian

2013/4/16 Claudio Filho :
> Hi

Hi Claudio. :-)

> Bino, you don't need run bootstrap if you already have epm and dmake
> installed in your system. In Debian, we have both packages as well. Install
> they and jump to next step.

You could instruct me better ?

Albino

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Re: draft blog post: Visualizing the AOO Dev List

2013-04-16 Thread janI

On 16 April 2013 20:46, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2013/4/16 Juergen Schmidt :
> > > Am Dienstag, 16. April 2013 um 19:43 schrieb Rob Weir:
> > >>
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=visualizing_the_aoo_dev_list
> > >>
> > > nice, I like the visualization and the blog
> >
> > I like it too, it seems like if it provides a really good picture of
> > our community health!
> >
> >
> "Organic" is the word that comes to mind.  It is not the pattern of a
> hierarchical command/control organization, but a complex organism of
> participants contributing at various levels of engagement.
>

I like it too, it is things like that we need to publish more, to counter
the discussions that we are inactive (dead).

Real nice work

rgds
Jan I.

>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> > Roberto
> >
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> -Rob
> > >
> >
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Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

Err...

Sorry but... the extentions cited by Ariel will be integrated in the source
as "code" and not as "extension"? In other words, will be part of core?

As he explained, make sense for me to merge this functions in the code in
the same way of Solver was in the past.

Sorry by my newbie understanding about the question. I am studing the
requeriment to build into debian way, getting many "problems" to bring the
code to be "debianized", breaking in some parts (at this moment in
pdfimport module) and to know more about this question can help.

And thanks by share the final of this point.

Bests,
Claudio



2013/4/3 Jürgen Schmidt 

> On 3/27/13 3:23 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you
> >> pointed out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly
> >> your problem now?
> >
> > I don't have any problem at all.
> >
> >> I don't think that it will help us if we react this way.
> >
> > I am not reacting. Please don't turn this into a circus like the
> > one with the 0^0.
> >
> >> Really nobody wanted that you revert anything here.
> >
> > I am no native English speaker, but for the content, and the tone,
> > of Andre mails, I understood he wanted his extension back:
> >
> >> I don't see why this change should be a good thing.
> >
> >> I was hoping that I would find the time in the future to fix
> >> this
> >
> >> Including the pre-bundled extensions into the core is a
> >> workaround not a fix.
> >
> >> We are still able (well until your changes) to release the
> >> presenter console under Apache license
> >
> >> I still don' t see the benefit of the change.
> >
> >> [...] This is something that I have used several times in the
> >> past and always was very glad that I had it.
> >
> > And he got it back (together with the Presentation Minimizer, as
> > it makes no sense to have one pre-registered extension and the
> > other integrated).
> >
> > Again, I don't have any problem at all, nor then, nor now :)
>
> Just a short question before I lose it out of focus, do you plan to
> revert your revert? Or can/should we revert it? I really think it was
> a misunderstanding and nothing else.
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
>
>
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Re: draft blog post: Visualizing the AOO Dev List

2013-04-16 Thread Rob Weir

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Roberto Galoppini <
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/4/16 Juergen Schmidt :
> > Am Dienstag, 16. April 2013 um 19:43 schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=visualizing_the_aoo_dev_list
> >>
> > nice, I like the visualization and the blog
>
> I like it too, it seems like if it provides a really good picture of
> our community health!
>
>
"Organic" is the word that comes to mind.  It is not the pattern of a
hierarchical command/control organization, but a complex organism of
participants contributing at various levels of engagement.

-Rob



> Roberto
>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >
>
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Re: draft blog post: Visualizing the AOO Dev List

2013-04-16 Thread Roberto Galoppini

2013/4/16 Juergen Schmidt :
> Am Dienstag, 16. April 2013 um 19:43 schrieb Rob Weir:
>> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=visualizing_the_aoo_dev_list
>>
> nice, I like the visualization and the blog

I like it too, it seems like if it provides a really good picture of
our community health!

Roberto

>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>

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Re: draft blog post: Visualizing the AOO Dev List

2013-04-16 Thread Juergen Schmidt

Am Dienstag, 16. April 2013 um 19:43 schrieb Rob Weir:
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=visualizing_the_aoo_dev_list
> 
nice, I like the visualization and the blog
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob

Re: Libwpd 0.8 x 0.9

Hi

2013/4/14 Kay Schenk 
>
> Also, getting configure to work correctly with your system require correct
> pkg-config set up for all your libraries -- a big issue with my setup.
>

Thank you, Kay.

My workaround was add the stable repository in my Debian box and install
only this package (and its dependences) to continue. :-(

Bests,
Claudio

draft blog post: Visualizing the AOO Dev List

2013-04-16 Thread Rob Weir

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=visualizing_the_aoo_dev_list

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Compile AOO on Debian

Hi

2013/4/16 Albino B Neto 

> Begin here [2].
>
> 2  - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO


Bino, you don't need run bootstrap if you already have epm and dmake
installed in your system. In Debian, we have both packages as well. Install
they and jump to next step.

Bests,
Claudio

Compile AOO on Debian

Hi

I doing to build AOO in Debian.

I'm following these steps as the tutorial [1], and when it arrives
"./bootstrap" does not recognize this command to be concluded.

1 - 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step

Begin here [2].

2  - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

Did I do something wrong ?

Albino

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Re: svn commit: r1468340 - in /openoffice/trunk/main: cui/source/inc/ cui/source/tabpages/ sd/source/ui/app/ sd/source/ui/slideshow/ sd/source/ui/view/ svx/ svx/inc/svx/ svx/inc/svx/sidebar/ svx/sourc


Hi Pavel,

okay, comitted as r1468503, sorry again...

Sincerely,
Armin

On 16.04.2013 17:41, Pavel Janík wrote:

Hi,

On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:41 AM, a...@apache.org wrote:


Author: alg
Date: Tue Apr 16 09:41:07 2013
New Revision: 1468340

URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1468340
Log:
i122041 Unified and centralized control for Color ValueSets
-#include 
+#include 

there is no such file on trunk.

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Re: svn commit: r1468340 - in /openoffice/trunk/main: cui/source/inc/ cui/source/tabpages/ sd/source/ui/app/ sd/source/ui/slideshow/ sd/source/ui/view/ svx/ svx/inc/svx/ svx/inc/svx/sidebar/ svx/sourc


Hi Pavel,

On 16.04.2013 17:41, Pavel Janík wrote:

Hi,

On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:41 AM, a...@apache.org wrote:


Author: alg
Date: Tue Apr 16 09:41:07 2013
New Revision: 1468340

URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1468340
Log:
i122041 Unified and centralized control for Color ValueSets
-#include 
+#include 

there is no such file on trunk.

OOps, Yes, sorry :-(
Forgot to add this file in svn, I'm on it...

Sincerely,
Armin
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2013-04-16 Thread Pavel Janík

Hi,

On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:41 AM, a...@apache.org wrote:

> Author: alg
> Date: Tue Apr 16 09:41:07 2013
> New Revision: 1468340
> 
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1468340
> Log:
> i122041 Unified and centralized control for Color ValueSets
> -#include 
> +#include 

there is no such file on trunk.
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Re: "ccache" for Java?

On 4/16/13 4:47 PM, Claudio Filho wrote:
> Hi
> 
> 
> Speaking with java developers, they spoke about Maven or use some parameter
> in ANT, for reuse compiled objects. I understand that have the same effect
> - speed up the build.
> 
> Someone knows about this topic?

no and we don't use maven in our build env and ant is used only partly.
Something to consider in the future maybe.

Juergen

> 
> Bests,
> Claudio
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/4/16 Claudio Filho 
> 
>> Hi
>>
>> I use ccache to accelerate the build process, but when it arrives in
>> helpcontent2 (and other modules), dmake rebuilds  all objects again, so I
>> ask if (and how) exist some thing like ccache to speed up the build of java
>> parts.
>>
>> Thank in advance,
>> Claudio
>>
> 


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Re: "ccache" for Java?

Hi


Speaking with java developers, they spoke about Maven or use some parameter
in ANT, for reuse compiled objects. I understand that have the same effect
- speed up the build.

Someone knows about this topic?

Bests,
Claudio



2013/4/16 Claudio Filho 

> Hi
>
> I use ccache to accelerate the build process, but when it arrives in
> helpcontent2 (and other modules), dmake rebuilds  all objects again, so I
> ask if (and how) exist some thing like ccache to speed up the build of java
> parts.
>
> Thank in advance,
> Claudio
>

Re: [RELEASE]: weekly developer snapshots

On 4/16/13 3:59 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:46:10AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> MacOS and Windows snapshot builds are uploaded. Keep in mind that
>> it is a build with system integration.
>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets
>
>> 
> Linux builds are there too. The ARC column contains "archived" 
> installations, no need to install RPMs/DEBs, simply untar the
> archive.

good idea, maybe I should upload the archive version for windows as well
(next time)

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Re: [RELEASE]: weekly developer snapshots

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:46:10AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> MacOS and Windows snapshot builds are uploaded. Keep in mind that it is
> a build with system integration.
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets

Linux builds are there too. The ARC column contains "archived"
installations, no need to install RPMs/DEBs, simply untar the archive.


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"ccache" for Java?

Hi

I use ccache to accelerate the build process, but when it arrives in
helpcontent2 (and other modules), dmake rebuilds  all objects again, so I
ask if (and how) exist some thing like ccache to speed up the build of java
parts.

Thank in advance,
Claudio

Re: [CODE]: regression, Python won't work on MacOS

On 4/16/13 3:31 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi Jürgen,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:16:16AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> during my work on the 3layer drop I noticed that Python don't
>> work on MacOSX. I thought it is a problem with my work but a
>> cross check with the trunk version showed that it is broken on
>> trunk as well :-(
>> 
>> The first problem I notice is that in pythonloader.py and uno.py
>> the syntax for excpetions has changed, e.g. except ImportError,
>> e: -> except ImportError as e:
>> 
>> This seems to be the first error but changing this doesn't help.
> 
> Andre reported
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122057#c2 that he
> couldn't install the Watching Window extension from 
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/watchingwindow on
> Windows, it might be broken there too (looks like a change tested
> only on *nix broke this).

I can test this extension, I found already a solution. We used a
really old Python coming with the platform SDK and is automatically
configured.
I have to improve configure on MacOS in a way to use the system python
under /Library/Framework and ensure that we use the 2.7 version.

I can't remember the reason why we use the system Python instead of
bundling it. But using 2.7.4 brings Python support back, at least the
HelloWorld.py script works.

The good thing for me is that is not bound to my 3 layer work ;-)

Juergen

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Re: Bug[119445]

Hi Rajath,

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 03:07:41PM +0530, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am a beginner in this opensource development. Kindly bear with my
> trivial doubts.
> I would like to participate in gsoc 2013. I began with solving a bug
> which was related page layout. Mr. Rob flagged that bug as hard for a
> beginner in a series of mails that I had with a few developers who
> helped me a lot.
> 
> For that reason, I chose an easier bug to solve. Bug - 119445
> I used the following method to fix this bug.
> I removed the entry 
> from main/sw/uiconfig/swriter/menubar/menubar.xml
> 
> I then built openoffice again. Now Export to PDF is not shown anymore in 
> Writer!
> But, I also have to remove the part of the code which connects this
> menuitem to mouseclick and the function of exporting to PDF has to be
> removed.
> 
> I tried my best to find the link where exactly this xml file is used
> and the ui response is coded. I would be very happy If anybody could
> help me out with this. I would be very excited to complete my first
> bug fix!

IMO this bug needs input from User Experience experts: the menu is not
duplicated because in one case you export directly to PDF, while the
File - Export... menu takes more steps to export to PDF; so, removing
File - Export as PDF... might be seen as a regression by the user.


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Re: [CODE]: regression, Python won't work on MacOS

Hi Jürgen,

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:16:16AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> during my work on the 3layer drop I noticed that Python don't work on
> MacOSX. I thought it is a problem with my work but a cross check with
> the trunk version showed that it is broken on trunk as well :-(
> 
> The first problem I notice is that in pythonloader.py and uno.py the
> syntax for excpetions has changed, e.g.
> except ImportError, e: -> except ImportError as e:
> 
> This seems to be the first error but changing this doesn't help.

Andre reported https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122057#c2
that he couldn't install the Watching Window extension from
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/watchingwindow on Windows,
it might be broken there too (looks like a change tested only on *nix
broke this).

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Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

Hi Samer,

thanks for working on the overview! Despite that, I'm missing the
'App-Icon'-like ones, I do no longer know whwre these were or from whom.
It's the rectangular ones (like the famous 'App'-icons for various
AppStores, in our Blue, with the Seagulls, also with slight lighting
effect. I consider these a good and modern alternative.
Could we please add these to the selection (if we find them again, of
course)...?

Sincerely,
Armin

On 14.04.2013 00:42, Samer Mansour wrote:

Summary of feedback (which I found made points):

Samer - Lets go flat, its strong in all aspects brought up.
Kay S. - Agrees with flat logo. Poll should be limited to few.
Robin - Wordmarks need more attention (not logo specific), Vasilis logo is
cool, downside too different. Robin made a similar refresh with/without
feather. Scales his orb down, no indication for his logo preference (he did
submit one more). Agrees technical aspect of print, but its not deciding
factor (I agree but it should be satisfied).
Dave F - Wordmark needs attention as well, likes flat logo.
Dennis - Check with trademark@
Andrea - Likes orb, not a fan of flat (as its been used as a surrogate in
the past due to limitations).
Alexandro - alters Robins logo.
Juergen - What about stand alone logo for buttons, stickers. Proposes we
should poll.
Kadal - "Because companies do it, we shouldn't?" - not sure that is
convincing b/c they pay expert designers.
Vasilis - Likes flat, but wordmark not so much.
Milo - Likes flat, but workmark needs changing, TM placement too.
Rob - Poll, but its not decision making. PMC decides in end. PMC likes
data, more the better (ie. poll data). "Consider conferences and booth
materials, CD prints, etc."
Janl - Agrees poll for decision is bad idea, but poll for data is good.
"Keep it similar to classic orb". "Doesn't have to be flat" but Janl
doesn't state outright if flat is bad.
Graham L - "Logo is not a computer icon". Print is a huge part of
marketing. Print good -> electronically good, but not necessarily other way
around.

I could set up a visual poll and share multiple time over facebook and
social media.
http://freeonlinesurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?qid=244375&sid=xz7athj6ytcg4mb244375&new=True

Respond with your favourite 3 logo please, or top 2 or 1. The logos that
score the least will be eliminated:

1. Flattened Logo
2. Kevin G. Flat Feather.
3. third pick abstained.

On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:

On 13 April 2013 16:25, Graham Lauder wrote:

Hi Milos,

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Milosh Vujnovic wrote:

Hi guys,

just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and logos.
Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared
during logo design process. This includes color and black&white
version (on light and dark background).

I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely used
anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business
cards, letterheads and other stationery, and so on.

But OpenOffice is a desktop application. For me, this means the main
focus should be in a logo that looks good everywhere where it is mainly
used, in the user's desktop (even in the window title bar) and the
website (even in the website favicon). Thus, IMHO, printing has the
lowest priority.

Regards

I have been keeping out of this conversation because I don't have time at
the
moment to give sufficient focus to OO, but I have been reading the list

I
am able. The above statement however prompts me to respond.

The main focus of the logo is to identify and attract. The statement

above

shows a limited understanding of marketing. The advent of computers has
far
from given us a paperless office, it has in fact increased paper usage

by a

huge margin. Print media is a hugely significant part of marketing
collateral. Flyers, posters CD sleeves and labels, business cards etc.
Whenever reviews are printed in magazines there should be a logo with the
article. Logo is not just about finding OO on a computer, that's an

icon.

The logo should work in print (specifically worst case scenario which is

colour on newsprint) and it will work digitally, the opposite does not
necessarily follow.

Cheers
GL

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Apart form anything else, why is it so difficult to make a vector image
that is good on print and on screen? When something is achievable why
settle for something less?

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Re: Handlers in Drawing

Hi Alan,

Regina already points to the correct places; the interactions are quite
'hand-made' in the code and it's old stuff. I changed modt of it to work
on an overlay mechanism to allow previews during interactions, and
added/refined some stuff. Be also informed that I'm about to change all
that stuff (together with other stuff) to double precision handling
(currently on integer, 1/100th mm resp. twips in SW). So be informed
that that code is already sublect to heavy changes (see
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/alg/aw080), so I
would not recomment to touch it until that part is done. Investigation
and experimenting is of course welcome, so welcome to the Drawinglayer ;-)

Sincerely,
Armin

On 13.04.2013 13:15, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hello Alan,

Alan Eduardo Puc Pech schrieb:

Hello Regina, I would like to know which file in the source code of AOO,
manipulate shapes in Draw. Because I want to learn the operation of that
file. For example when I create a circle. the points to which I can
manipulate and change its size.

That is clear now. You will find this in a Sdr?View. Look at the
hierarchy of that classed in
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/svx/inc/svx/svdview.hxx

I'm no professional developer and have not worked in that part of the
code. Perhaps someone else can give a better answer and correct me
where I'm wrong.

But I guess you will find some relevant things about getting the
handle in SdrMarkView
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/svx/source/svdraw/svdmrkv.cxx
and for the actions itself in SdrEditView
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/svx/inc/svx/svdedtv.hxx

The changes on the object itself are in
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/svx/source/svdraw/

Kind regards
Regina

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Our IRC channel

Hi

Sorry to reopen this discussion existing [0] [1].

0 - 
http://markmail.org/search/?q=+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+irc#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev%20irc+page:1+mid:vh5blixjmoaegfd7+state:results
1 - 
http://markmail.org/search/?q=+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+irc#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev%20irc+page:1+mid:mapv2w2m7ha7cear+state:results

I just want to reinforce that we have in AOO, IRC channels. :-) We
have a few users in the channels, I are unaware that some users.

The channels IRC of Apache OpenOffice [2].

2 - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication

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Re: Bug[119445]

2013-04-16 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


Hi Rajath,

On 16.04.2013 11:37, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:

Hello,

I am a beginner in this opensource development. Kindly bear with my
trivial doubts.
I would like to participate in gsoc 2013. I began with solving a bug
which was related page layout. Mr. Rob flagged that bug as hard for a
beginner in a series of mails that I had with a few developers who
helped me a lot.

For that reason, I chose an easier bug to solve. Bug - 119445
I used the following method to fix this bug.
I removed the entry 
from main/sw/uiconfig/swriter/menubar/menubar.xml

I then built openoffice again. Now Export to PDF is not shown anymore in Writer!
But, I also have to remove the part of the code which connects this
menuitem to mouseclick and the function of exporting to PDF has to be
removed.

I tried my best to find the link where exactly this xml file is used
and the ui response is coded. I would be very happy If anybody could
help me out with this. I would be very excited to complete my first
bug fix!



From my point of view the reported issue is about having the same PDF 
export function twice in the File menu.
Removing the menu entry 'Export to PDF' from the menu is the task that 
needs to be done to solve this issue in my opinion.
Thus, the change you mentioned above is the one which needs to be made. 
I think there are some more menu configurations which needs to be adapted.


I propose you should search for UNO command 'ExportToPDF' by using our 
OpenGrok instance [1] found at [2] to learn more.


Beside further menu configuration files you will find the definition of 
this UNO command in main/sfx2/sdi/sfx.sdi bound to SlotID 
SID_EXPORTDOCASPDF.


Now you can search for the SlotID SID_EXPORTDOCASPDF in order to figured 
out where and how this UNO command respectively Slot is handled.
I do not think that any further adaption is needed to the handling of 
this UNO command respectively SlotID to solve issue 119445.


[1] http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/
[2] http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html


Best regards, Oliver.

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Re: [RELEASE]: weekly developer snapshots

On 4/15/13 4:38 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 4/15/13 4:14 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 03:56:50PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I noticed feedback regarding sidebar problems that can't be
>>> reproduced. It seems that the result of the build bots are not
>>> reliable.
>>>
>>> Based on this and the fact that we don't have build bots for
>>> MacOS and currently not for Linunx 32 bit, I propose a weekly
>>> developer snapshot based on the SNAPSHOT tag.
>>>
>>> I have switched the snapshot tag now to trunk revision 1467923
>>> and will start building Windows and MacOS
>>>
>>> @Ariel, maybe you can provide the Linux builds as in the past.
>>> Please let me know if not.
>>
>> Yes. What are you planning to build (normal install sets,
>> languages, langpacks, etc.)?
>>
>> May be it doesn't make sense to provide localized full install
>> sets, in the current localization state (we will only get the
>> feedback that translation is "corrupted" and previous work lost -
>> none of which is true).
> 
> I agree, at the moment I would plan en-US only. And as soon as we have
> the localization for a language in place we can add the language.
> 
> I think at the moment we should provide normal install sets with
> system integration, means no dev builds. QA volunteers know hopefully
> how to handle these builds.
> 

MacOS and Windows snapshot builds are uploaded. Keep in mind that it is
a build with system integration.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets

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Re: [CODE]: regression, Python won't work on MacOS

On 4/16/13 11:16 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> during my work on the 3layer drop I noticed that Python don't work on
> MacOSX. I thought it is a problem with my work but a cross check with
> the trunk version showed that it is broken on trunk as well :-(
> 
> The first problem I notice is that in pythonloader.py and uno.py the
> syntax for excpetions has changed, e.g.
> except ImportError, e: -> except ImportError as e:
> 
> This seems to be the first error but changing this doesn't help.
> 
> Any ideas from the Python experts?

forget to mention that I use Python 2.7.1 on MacOS at the moment.

> 
> 
> Juergen
> 


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Re: [CODE]: consolidating of several directories -> looking for a volunteer

On 4/16/13 11:17 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 4/5/13 3:27 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> today we have several modules who do something with UNO types
>>
>> udkapi -> contains UNO txpes for the URE
>> offapi -> contains the UNO types for the office
>> ridljar -> generate the class files for the types of udkapi
>> unoil -> generates the class files for the types of offapi
>> offuh -> generate the C++  header for all types
>>
>> The idea is to consolidate all this in the module "offapi"
>>
>> ridl.jar and unoil.jar are combined into either unoil.jar or a new
>> offapi.jar
>>
>> And we combine the udkapi and offapi rdb in one types.rdb (today we have
>> offapi.rdb and ure/shre/misc/types.rdb.
>>
>> Well some other places in the code and build env have to be changed
>> accordingly. But I think this can be a nice task for somebody who wants
>> to get started with something useful. If somebody is interested please
>> let me know and I will the necessary guidance. The work is somewhat
>> related to my 3lyer rework.
> 
> forget to mention that I use Python 2.7.1 on MacOS at the moment.

ups, reply to the wrong mail, sorry

> 
>>
>> Juergen
>>
> 


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Re: [CODE]: consolidating of several directories -> looking for a volunteer

On 4/5/13 3:27 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> today we have several modules who do something with UNO types
> 
> udkapi -> contains UNO txpes for the URE
> offapi -> contains the UNO types for the office
> ridljar -> generate the class files for the types of udkapi
> unoil -> generates the class files for the types of offapi
> offuh -> generate the C++  header for all types
> 
> The idea is to consolidate all this in the module "offapi"
> 
> ridl.jar and unoil.jar are combined into either unoil.jar or a new
> offapi.jar
> 
> And we combine the udkapi and offapi rdb in one types.rdb (today we have
> offapi.rdb and ure/shre/misc/types.rdb.
> 
> Well some other places in the code and build env have to be changed
> accordingly. But I think this can be a nice task for somebody who wants
> to get started with something useful. If somebody is interested please
> let me know and I will the necessary guidance. The work is somewhat
> related to my 3lyer rework.

forget to mention that I use Python 2.7.1 on MacOS at the moment.

> 
> Juergen
> 


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[CODE]: regression, Python won't work on MacOS

Hi,

during my work on the 3layer drop I noticed that Python don't work on
MacOSX. I thought it is a problem with my work but a cross check with
the trunk version showed that it is broken on trunk as well :-(

The first problem I notice is that in pythonloader.py and uno.py the
syntax for excpetions has changed, e.g.
except ImportError, e: -> except ImportError as e:

This seems to be the first error but changing this doesn't help.

Any ideas from the Python experts?


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Re: Clean build proposal