concerning footnotes when using openoffice writer

2013-06-08 Thread Y Chan
When using openoffice writer to write thesis, I find the footnotes often
disrupted when converted into doc. Say, the lines are shifted and there are
redundant numbering bullets. It is hard to avoid converting into doc.
because I don't have a printer, and all the computers at school dont have
openoffice.

Looking forward to improvements :)

Cheers,
Yuk


Re: concerning footnotes when using openoffice writer

2013-06-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:42:04 +0800
Y Chan teresacha...@gmail.com wrote:

 When using openoffice writer to write thesis, I find the footnotes often
 disrupted when converted into doc. Say, the lines are shifted and there are
 redundant numbering bullets. It is hard to avoid converting into doc.
 because I don't have a printer, and all the computers at school dont have
 openoffice.
 
 Looking forward to improvements :)
 
 Cheers,
 Yuk

There is no immediate fix for this.  It is best to use the defined styles for 
footnotes, the styles modified if necessary to suit your need, rather than to 
individually (directly) format each footnote to suit your requirements.

You can use a portable version of OpenOffice which will run off a USB key.  I'm 
sorry, I haven't an up-to-date link for this version.


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Re: concerning footnotes when using openoffice writer

2013-06-08 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi all,

2013/6/8 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

 On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:42:04 +0800
 Y Chan teresacha...@gmail.com wrote:

  When using openoffice writer to write thesis, I find the footnotes often
  disrupted when converted into doc. Say, the lines are shifted and there
 are
  redundant numbering bullets. It is hard to avoid converting into doc.
  because I don't have a printer, and all the computers at school dont have
  openoffice.
 
  Looking forward to improvements :)
 
  Cheers,
  Yuk

 There is no immediate fix for this.  It is best to use the defined styles
 for footnotes, the styles modified if necessary to suit your need, rather
 than to individually (directly) format each footnote to suit your
 requirements.

 You can use a portable version of OpenOffice which will run off a USB key.
  I'm sorry, I haven't an up-to-date link for this version.

http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1341

A+
-- 
gw





Re: Handlers Drawing - Desing of the nodes.

2013-06-08 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Alan,

Alan Eduardo Puc Pech schrieb:

Hi Armin

Where I find that folder --- wntmsci12?
because you told me to copy the following link:

- copy these (from
main\solver\400\wntmsci12\**workdir\ResTarget\svxen-US.**res)
to your office installation (search there). But I don't find wntmsci12

I use ubuntu 12.04.


If you use a Linux, then it will not be wnt... but likely unx...
Simple open solver\400\ and you will find it.

Kind regards
Regina


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Re: Build AOO in Win7 Troubles

2013-06-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 07/06/2013 Ivan Fuentes wrote:

 --with-jdk-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_02\
 --with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.1\
 --with-dmake-url=
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
 --with-epm-url=http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz\

 --enable-pch \
 --disable-atl \


Whatever shell/interpreter you are using, it seems that, as Juergen 
wrote, you are not passing the dmake URL properly.


E-mail breaks it, but it seems that: you don't have a \ to terminate the 
dmake configuration option and tell the interpreter that the command 
continues on the next line; the dmake URL is on another line; the EPM 
URL is outdated.


If you copied the EPM URL from a wiki page, please fix it on the wiki 
page. Or at least give us the link so that we can fix it.


And try changing that section as follows (unless someone else with more 
experience than me in enjoying Windows builds steps in):

...
--with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.1 \
--with-dmake-url=http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2 
\

--with-epm-url=http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz \
--enable-pch \
...

(the mailing list may break it, but it's 4 lines, each beginning with 
-- and ending in \; of course, ... means that you should leave the 
remaining lines unchanged).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: concerning footnotes when using openoffice writer

2013-06-08 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Y Chan,

you may export as PDF and print from PDF viewer

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ALG (iPad)

Am 08.06.2013 um 10:42 schrieb Y Chan teresacha...@gmail.com:

 When using openoffice writer to write thesis, I find the footnotes often
 disrupted when converted into doc. Say, the lines are shifted and there are
 redundant numbering bullets. It is hard to avoid converting into doc.
 because I don't have a printer, and all the computers at school dont have
 openoffice.
 
 Looking forward to improvements :)
 
 Cheers,
 Yuk

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Re: Draft blog post: When will OpenOffice version X be released?

2013-06-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 06/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=when_will_openoffice_version_x
Since we get this question frequently, I thought it would be good to
have a canonical response we can point people to.


It's good but I'd add pointers so that people who want to get involved 
can do so.


It is time to give more visibility to development snapshots, for 
example: a link to 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets 
would help in getting more feedback. Or a link to any QA resource 
leading to it. We don't want to make them too visible since they are 
unofficial, but hiding them too much does not help either, especially 
when the release comes closer.


Same for translations. It would be good to include a link to
http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html

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  Andrea.

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Re: Draft blog post: When will OpenOffice version X be released?

2013-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jun 8, 2013, at 5:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 On 06/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=when_will_openoffice_version_x
 Since we get this question frequently, I thought it would be good to
 have a canonical response we can point people to.
 
 It's good but I'd add pointers so that people who want to get involved can do 
 so.
 
 It is time to give more visibility to development snapshots, for example: a 
 link to 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets
  would help in getting more feedback. Or a link to any QA resource leading to 
 it. We don't want to make them too visible since they are unofficial, but 
 hiding them too much does not help either, especially when the release comes 
 closer.

We can discuss developer snapshots on list, but I think it is outside of ASF 
policy to publish URLs elsewhere - like in Blog posts.

We should point those interested in development to the dev ML and then on the 
ML point them to development resources ad hoc.

 
 Same for translations. It would be good to include a link to
 http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html

Definitely.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Regards,
  Andrea.
 
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New Volunteer

2013-06-08 Thread mehdi soleimani nasab
Hi, Sup?!

I have added my info to the directory of volunteers. I will finish my
B.Sc. in a month. This summer before starting my master studies I am
thinking of doing sth useful. I hope it can be a starting point to get
me involved with open source. :)

Here's a little info about my past experiences; I was part of a team
in my university who developed a Rule-Based machine translation system
for English to Persian text translation. This team has previously
developed a Persian spell checker extension for Microsoft Word.
I am also familiar with machine learning techniques and their
application in natural language processing.

I have attached my CV (in case u're interested to know more about me!) :)

Bests,

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Re: [Discuss][Wiki]Synchronizing (or not) localized wiki sites [was: Fwd: [UserGuide]My roadmap]

2013-06-08 Thread RGB ES
(top posting, because I'm not answering any particular post)

At this point, I think we all agree that we have a bit of a license mess
that needs to be fixed in order to clarify the documentation project. So
here is one possible idea:

1- Move the current /Documentation page to /Documentation-OLD or
/Documentation-LEGACY(1), indicating at the begining that the content is
outdated
2- Create a new portal page on the old url with the characteristic
described bellow

Characteristics for the new portal

* Introduction to the project, how to contact the group and participate,
pending tasks lists, etc.
* Links to the new, Apache licensed documentation (user guide, building
guide, etcetera) indicating that it's a work in progress and that new
contributors are welcomed.
* Add a section that points to the legacy page. Something like Apache
OpenOffice inherited not only the code from former OpenOffice.org project,
but also a huge amount of documentation. Some of those documents are still
valid, some don't, but you can find all of them here.

Once this new structure is in place for the main EN site, propagate it to
other languages will be easier than fixing current PDL licensed pages.

What do you think?

(1) Maybe it's better to first create the new portal on /Documentation-AOO,
when that new page is ready move /Documentation to /Documentation-Legacy,
then move /Documentation-AOO to /Documentation

Regards
Ricardo



2013/6/5 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org

 I don't believe the ASF iCLA I filed stipulates anything about ALv2,
 although it certainly stipulates what my contributions grant to the ASF and
 to anyone who receives my contribution via the ASF.  (Note that the grant
 to recipients is directly from me, via the iCLA, no matter what the ALv2
 says.)

 My comment is mainly with respect to pages on the wiki that are covered by
 licenses other than the ALv2 and what contributing any modifications to
 them entails, no matter what the ASF gets from me under the terms of my
 iCLA.

 Of course, a click-through registration that asserts ALv2 for
 contributions is fine, although the ASF and recipients still have more
 rights than that for any contribution I make.  The current statement about
 treating materials not under the default license still applies and I
 suspect a form of that has to remain in any click-through on registration.
  The iCLA doesn't (and can't) alter that situation.

  - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 01:24 PM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Cc: l...@openoffice.apache.org; d...@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [Discuss][Wiki]Synchronizing (or not) localized wiki sites
 [was: Fwd: [UserGuide]My roadmap]

 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org
 wrote:
  +1
 
  I prepared my response before I saw this one.
 
  There is still need to be careful around this:
 
   However, when we create new material, including enhancements
   Of existing material, then we need to respect the ICLA which
   says our contributions are made under ALv2.  This might mean
   that going forward that modified content is covered by multiple
   licenses.
 
   1. When enhancing existing materials, the existing license must be
  honored.  How additional licensing works depends on the specific
  Conditions.  It should not be automatically assumed possible.
 
   2. Since our having accounts on the wiki are subject to the rules for
  The wiki, I'm not sure the ICLA governs (1).  As committers, we
  certainly shouldn't be asserting any other license, but the current
  license on the work is going to determine whether and how the ALv2
  can be introduced.
 

 The ICLA says:

  Contribution shall mean any original work of authorship,
including any modifications or additions to an existing work, that
is intentionally submitted by You to the Foundation for inclusion
in, or documentation of, any of the products owned or managed by
the Foundation (the Work). For the purposes of this definition,
submitted means any form of electronic, verbal, or written
communication sent to the Foundation or its representatives,
including but not limited to communication on electronic mailing
lists, source code control systems, and issue tracking systems that
are managed by, or on behalf of, the Foundation for the purpose of
discussing and improving the Work, but excluding communication that
is conspicuously marked or otherwise designated in writing by You
as Not a Contribution.

 So I think that covers wiki contributions as well since that is
 documentation of, yes?

 -Rob


  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:28 AM
  To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
  Cc: l...@openoffice.apache.org; d...@openoffice.apache.org
  Subject: Re: [Discuss][Wiki]Synchronizing (or not) localized 

Re: Apache licence and derivated work

2013-06-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Rob,

 2013/6/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I would know what has to be written on a derivated *documentation* work
  (modified or translated) based on an original work published with an
 Apache
  licence.
 

 Is the original work a work published by an Apache project?  Or is it
 a 3rd party work from outside Apache that you are modifying?

 And is the destination of the modified work for publication by this
 project?  Or is it for independent publication outside of the project.

 (In other words, where is it coming from and where is it going?)

 Although the license is the same in these cases, there are differences
 in Apache policy.  If you can give more details we can give a more
 specific answer.

 Many thanks for your answer. Here are some clarifications.
 It concerns my own docs,  published with an ALV2 license. I could have the
 opportunity to work on it with a  group, a little as ODFAuthors do. So, the
 different chapters would be released with a list of authors/contributors
 and the copyright name would be the name of the group. The licence is still
 ALv2.0.
 I would insert a notice in the files, with clear instructions for third
 parties (companies, schools, administrations, editors, etc.) which would
 reuse and modify the work, so that they know exactly how  to do,  if they
 modify the work  to fit it to their own specific needs and distribute it on
 their own Intranet or in a printed version. I would avoid to receive too
 much questions, and would try to solve this issue in a clear notice
 explaining the procedure.
 It's also important for people who will join to this effort of
 documentation. I think they have the right to understand clearly how the
 work they will produce could be reused to decide whether they participate
 or not.


OK.  So this is entirely 3rd party and Apache policy does not apply.

Section 4 of the ALv2 explains what is required by someone who
modifies and redistributes a work under Apache license:

http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

That is the official requirement.   But let's look at your specific
questions now and see how this applies:

#1. The title of the derivated document has to be different.

Section 4b of the license says: You must cause any modified files to
carry prominent notices stating that You changed the files.

Changing the title could be part of that.  But the license does not
specify the exact way in which you indicate that you changed the
files.

#2. The author of the modified version has to add its own copyright notice.

This is also not required.  The only requirement is to preserve any
copyright notices that are already there.

Section 4c of  the license: You must retain, in the Source form of
any Derivative Works that You distribute, all copyright, patent,
trademark, and attribution notices from the Source form of the Work,
excluding those notices that do not pertain to any part of the
Derivative Works; 


#3. The licence of the derivated work has to be obligatory the Apache
licence or not ?

I'd encourage using the Apache license for derived works, but it is
not required.  Section 4 of the license says (with my emphasis):

You may add Your own copyright statement to Your modifications and
***may provide additional or different license terms*** and conditions
for use, reproduction, or distribution of Your modifications, or for
any such Derivative Works as a whole, provided ***Your use,
reproduction, and distribution of the Work otherwise complies with the
conditions stated in this License***. 

So you may apply a different license provided it is compatible with
the Apache License.  But in most cases it is simplest just to use the
Apache License.

#4. If yes in #3, the APPENDIX: How to apply the Apache License to your
work has to be added to the derivated work.

Section 4a of the license says that you must include a copy of the
license, so that would include the Appendix as well.

#5. Has the author of the derivated work to write a notice giving credit to
the author(s) and contributor(s) of the original version on which he has
based his work ? Is a link to the original work obligatory or not ?

If the original work had a copyright statement, then that must be
preserved.  If the original version had a NOTICE text file (see
section 4d of the license) then that must be preserved.

You can see the NOTICE file for AOO itself here, to get an idea of
what kinds of things are in it:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/NOTICE

In any case, you should probably decide whether you are looking for
hard legal constraints on what people do with the documentation, or
soft social norming that guides them to reasonable behavior.  For
example, if you had a page in the documentation that listed the
contributors and invited authors of derived versions to add their

Re: Build AOO in Win7 Troubles

2013-06-08 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

Andrea Pescetti schrieb:

On 07/06/2013 Ivan Fuentes wrote:

 --with-jdk-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_02\
 --with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.1\
 --with-dmake-url=
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2

--with-epm-url=http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz\

 --enable-pch \
 --disable-atl \


Whatever shell/interpreter you are using, it seems that, as Juergen
wrote, you are not passing the dmake URL properly.

E-mail breaks it, but it seems that: you don't have a \ to terminate the
dmake configuration option and tell the interpreter that the command
continues on the next line; the dmake URL is on another line; the EPM
URL is outdated.

If you copied the EPM URL from a wiki page, please fix it on the wiki
page. Or at least give us the link so that we can fix it.

And try changing that section as follows (unless someone else with more
experience than me in enjoying Windows builds steps in):
...
--with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.1 \
--with-dmake-url=http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
\
--with-epm-url=http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz \


I have no line --with-epm-url at all.

Kind regards
Regina



Kind regards
Regina

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Re: Handlers Drawing - Desing of the nodes.

2013-06-08 Thread Alan Eduardo Puc Pech
Hi Regina

Thanks I found, but now I am building the module packimages, but I have
this error:

packimages: parsing '/home/alan/aoo/main/solver/400/
unxlngi6.pro/res/img/wzien-US.ilst' ...
packimages: parsing '/home/alan/aoo/main/solver/400/
unxlngi6.pro/res/img/xsltdlgen-US.ilst' ...
packimages: parsing '../unxlngi6.pro/res/img/commandimagelist.ilst' ...
packimages: assemble image list ...
packimages: creating image archive ...
packimages: sorting from ../unxlngi6.pro/res/img/sorted.lst ...
packimages: done sort ...
*Can't call method desiredCompressionLevel on an undefined value at
/usr/share/perl5/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 249.*
*dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../unxlngi6.pro/bin/images.zip'*
*ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/alan/aoo/main/packimages/pack*
*
*
I think it's related to my version of perl. but I would like to know your
opinion.

regards.



2013/6/8 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de

 Hi Alan,

 Alan Eduardo Puc Pech schrieb:

 Hi Armin

 Where I find that folder --- wntmsci12?
 because you told me to copy the following link:

 - copy these (from
 main\solver\400\wntmsci12\workdir\ResTarget\svxen-US.res)

 to your office installation (search there). But I don't find wntmsci12

 I use ubuntu 12.04.


 If you use a Linux, then it will not be wnt... but likely unx...
 Simple open solver\400\ and you will find it.

 Kind regards
 Regina



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Re: New Volunteer

2013-06-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

mehdi soleimani nasab wrote:

Here's a little info about my past experiences; I was part of a team
in my university who developed a Rule-Based machine translation system
for English to Persian text translation. This team has previously
developed a Persian spell checker extension


Welcome! The easiest way to help immediately is to contribute to the 
Persian translation, due in about 10 days. Please add a comment to

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122287
stating that you are available to help, so that you can coordinate with 
other volunteers vie private e-mail or directly on the issue page.



I have attached my CV (in case u're interested to know more about me!) :)


Attachments are removed, but we don't need a CV, we will hopefully learn 
more about you from your contributions!


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Location for logo source?

2013-06-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  Chris R. sent me the logo source, including additional application
  notes, links to the font, etc.
 
  Where should this go?
 
  On the one hand we store the live version of the logo bitmaps on the
  website here:
 
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/
 
  But there are also other copies in other location, in the product
  tree, in the site tree, and outside of SVN on forums, wiki, etc.
 
  So I think we want a more central location where we can store this
  material, since it cuts across product, website and externally.
 
  Maybe a new root SVN folder, /openoffice/artwork ?   That could grow
  to contain things like CD labels, etc.
 
  I'm sure someone will suggest the MWiki.  That allows some kinds of
  attachments, yes?  But does it version attachments?  I think we want
  full version control on logo source changes.
 
  Regards,
 
  -Rob
 
 
  There is a subarea in images that had been set up for this --
 
 
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
 
  with svg directory for source, and renderings in the main logos area.
 
  Could we continue to use this area?
 

 Possibly.  The side effect would be that the logo source gets
 published to the website.  What would that mean to visitors?  My
 preference would be to make it clear that the logo is not something
 that we just want people grabbing and reusing for any purpose.


  I would suggest all other items -- notes, a rendering -- be placed in
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
 

 I like this area more.  Maybe the images/AOO_logos is better for the
 concrete website PNG image, and the marketing/art/galleries area could
 be for the source, etc.?  We can then set expectations/permissible
 uses, etc., on the existing web pages.

 -Rob


 Yes, this makes sense. And, I didn't realize there was already some
 appropriate links to SVG there. This is a good choice.


a ps.

I can use these to work on new logo use for web sites soonish -- Monday,
PDT? -- and supply mockup pages.




 
 
 
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Re: Build AOO in Win7 Troubles

2013-06-08 Thread Ivan Fuentes
I remove the new lines and I wrote it in just one line.

sh ./configure --with-cl-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft
Visual Studio 11.0/VC/ --with-mspdb-path=/cygdrive/c/Program Files
(x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0/Common7/IDE
--with-asm-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio
11.0/VC/bin --with-csc-path=/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft
Visual Studio 11.0/SDK/v3.5 --with-frame-home=/cygdrive/c/Program
Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.1 --with-psdk-home=/cygdrive/c/Program
Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.1 --with-midl-path=/cygdrive/c/Program
Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.1/bin --with-jdk-home=/cygdrive/c/Program
Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_02
--with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.1 --with-dmake-url=
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
--with-epm-url=http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz;
--enable-pch --disable-atl --disable-binfilter --without-junit

and i got this error:

checking the Microsoft C/C++ Compiler... found
(/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~3.0/VC/bin/cl.exe)
checking the Version of Microsoft C/C++ Compiler... found Compiler version
in /cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/MICROS~3.0/VC/bin/cl.exe: error while loading
shared libraries: mspdb110.dll: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory
./configure: line 8138: test: : integer expression expected
configure: error: Compiler too old. Use Microsoft C/C++ .NET 2008.

I'm using MSVC 2012, (i don't want to install MSVC 2008 :() What do i have
to do?


2013/6/8 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de

 Hi,

 Andrea Pescetti schrieb:

  On 07/06/2013 Ivan Fuentes wrote:

  --with-jdk-home=/cygdrive/c/**Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_02\
  --with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/**apache-ant-1.9.1\
  --with-dmake-url=
 http://dmake.apache-extras.**org.codespot.com/files/dmake-**4.12.tar.bz2http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2

 --with-epm-url=http://ftp.**easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.**
 7-source.tar.gz\http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz%5C

  --enable-pch \
  --disable-atl \


 Whatever shell/interpreter you are using, it seems that, as Juergen
 wrote, you are not passing the dmake URL properly.

 E-mail breaks it, but it seems that: you don't have a \ to terminate the
 dmake configuration option and tell the interpreter that the command
 continues on the next line; the dmake URL is on another line; the EPM
 URL is outdated.

 If you copied the EPM URL from a wiki page, please fix it on the wiki
 page. Or at least give us the link so that we can fix it.

 And try changing that section as follows (unless someone else with more
 experience than me in enjoying Windows builds steps in):
 ...
 --with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/**apache-ant-1.9.1 \
 --with-dmake-url=http://dmake.**apache-extras.org.codespot.**
 com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
 \
 --with-epm-url=http://www.**msweet.org/files/project2/epm-**
 3.7-source.tar.gzhttp://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz\


 I have no line --with-epm-url at all.

 Kind regards
 Regina



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[DL][Website] Preparing AOO 4

2013-06-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I'm going to finish the last work for changing the download scripting to 
apply with the new situation (incubating string is gone, new version, 
new directory + filename structure).


If the following needs still to be discussed, then we should do it fast 
as the time is running.




1. I'm working with the following directory structure:

.../aoo/4.0.0/source/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/LANG/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/SDK/



2. I'm working with the following filename structure:
(especially @Juergen + Ariel)

aoo-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2

Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_MacOS_x86_langpack_en-US.dmg

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe



3.
I'm testing with my Apache people account:

http://people.apache.org/~marcus/aoo/4.0.0/[source|binaries]/...

However, I assume the new structure for the real servers will look like 
the following:


http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
aoo/
4.0.0/
binaries/
en-US/
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download

http://www.apache.org/dist/
aoo/
4.0.0/
binaries/
en-US/
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.md5

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/
aoo/
4.0.0/
source/
aoo-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2



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Re: Need QA (test) volunteers on Ubuntu 64bit

2013-06-08 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
Hi Yu,

I am generally free next week. I can spare two to three hours everyday next
week.

I have ubuntu installation on virtual, and my own windows 7 home. Please
let me know if I can contribute.

Thanks and regards,

Anna


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 We have achieved the exeution target on full regression testing, as every
 QA assignee continues to do their assignments or retest for failed test
 cases when related defects have been resolved, We now have another work
 with more higher priority, that is to do a quick go through with latest dev
 snapshot build(contains stlport change) by end of next week (*June 14*).

 We're looking for people who can spend a few time over next week to run
 pre-defined checklist on their Ubuntu 64bit, and to enter Bugzilla issues
 for any failed test functions, as well as to highlighter the critical bugs
 in the report.

 If you have interest on it, please let me know as soon as possible, I will
 send you the general testing list. Thanks!

 Regards,
 Yu Zhen



[AOO 4.0] [DEVTOOLS] setting toolbar name in Addons.xcu

2013-06-08 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi All,

I have committed a change to Netbeans plugin trunk for AOO 4.0 for 
setting toolbar name in Addons.xcu and setting to AOO 4.0.


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122055

I have attached to the issue an example Addons.xcu created with the 
plugin and a older developer snapshot

AOO350m1(Build:9611)  -  Rev. 1400866

I've been really busy with work and will be away from email a few weeks 
so I wanted to get this in.


If anyone can look at the Addons.xcu file and let me know if there is 
any issues I'd appreciate it.
Also If there is a schema I can validate against, I can work on it when 
I get back.


Best regards,
Carl

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Re: [RELEASE][TRANSLATION]: changes to the README file for 4.0

2013-06-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 01/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

Crazy idea. What if we just made a sub domain for each release?  Or
equivalently a path under  ooo-site.  Then we could have hard-coded
standard paths in the code and other systems like:
www.openoffice.org/release/version/README
Could also do LICENSE, release notes, even the update notification XML files


Sounds like a very good idea. I'm not sure we will be able to implement 
it in time for OpenOffice 4 (translations get in the way), but it could 
be setup with some basic information already for version 4 (and, if the 
hard-coded URLs in version 4 are different and cannot be changed at this 
stage, we could redirect them appropriately).


Regards,
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Re: [DL][Website] Preparing AOO 4

2013-06-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)

I've updated the test area in staging:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

To keep it simple and get faster results, I've just added en-US, en-GB, 
de languages to my Apache people account. So, when you see errors it 
might be just a missing language. ;-)

And don't worry about the 0 byte files. Yes, they are empty.

For the first troubleshooting the following could help:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html

Please test and tell me what needs to be changed/improved.

Thanks in advance.

Marcus



Am 06/08/2013 07:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

I'm going to finish the last work for changing the download scripting to
apply with the new situation (incubating string is gone, new version,
new directory + filename structure).

If the following needs still to be discussed, then we should do it fast
as the time is running.



1. I'm working with the following directory structure:

.../aoo/4.0.0/source/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/LANG/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/SDK/



2. I'm working with the following filename structure:
(especially @Juergen + Ariel)

aoo-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2

Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_MacOS_x86_langpack_en-US.dmg

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe



3.
I'm testing with my Apache people account:

http://people.apache.org/~marcus/aoo/4.0.0/[source|binaries]/...

However, I assume the new structure for the real servers will look like
the following:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
aoo/
4.0.0/
binaries/
en-US/
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download

http://www.apache.org/dist/
aoo/
4.0.0/
binaries/
en-US/
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.md5

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/
aoo/
4.0.0/
source/
aoo-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2



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Re: Location for logo source?

2013-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
 
 I like this area more.  Maybe the images/AOO_logos is better for the
 concrete website PNG image, and the marketing/art/galleries area could
 be for the source, etc.?  We can then set expectations/permissible
 uses, etc., on the existing web pages.
 
 
 Seems good. Actually, we could even shorten it to
 http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/logos/
 for better reachability in SVN (art would still be meaningful, but
 galleries seems misleading). This is just a minor preference of course.
 
 I checked it in earlier just so those who are interested in helping
 with it can access it:
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/
 
 I'd like to clean up the /marketing tree in general, to move the old
 logo(s) to a history page, etc.  This whole area of the website is in
 need of a cleanup.   Or maybe migration into the wiki?  Most of the
 project-facing marketing work is probably better done on the wiki than
 in static pages.  In the end I'd only want things like logos, where we
 do not want to give public write-access, to be in SVN.
 
 Make sense?

Yes +1. Thanks for your leadership on this.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 
 Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
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Re: [DL][Website] Preparing AOO 4

2013-06-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Roberto, is it possible to get a separate area on a SourceForge mirror 
to do some semi-live testing. I could think of the following:


http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-test.mirror/4.0.0/binaries/LANG/file_name

You can use the files from my Apache people account to fill the mirror:

http://people.apache.org/~marcus/aoo/4.0.0/binaries/...

PS:
Is it right that the URL still needs a /download at its end to start 
the download?


Thanks in advance.

Marcus



Am 06/08/2013 10:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

I've updated the test area in staging:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

To keep it simple and get faster results, I've just added en-US, en-GB,
de languages to my Apache people account. So, when you see errors it
might be just a missing language. ;-)
And don't worry about the 0 byte files. Yes, they are empty.

For the first troubleshooting the following could help:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html

Please test and tell me what needs to be changed/improved.

Thanks in advance.

Marcus



Am 06/08/2013 07:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

I'm going to finish the last work for changing the download scripting to
apply with the new situation (incubating string is gone, new version,
new directory + filename structure).

If the following needs still to be discussed, then we should do it fast
as the time is running.



1. I'm working with the following directory structure:

.../aoo/4.0.0/source/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/LANG/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/SDK/



2. I'm working with the following filename structure:
(especially @Juergen + Ariel)

aoo-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2

Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-US.tar.gz
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_MacOS_x86_langpack_en-US.dmg

Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe



3.
I'm testing with my Apache people account:

http://people.apache.org/~marcus/aoo/4.0.0/[source|binaries]/...

However, I assume the new structure for the real servers will look like
the following:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
aoo/
4.0.0/
binaries/
en-US/
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download

http://www.apache.org/dist/
aoo/
4.0.0/
binaries/
en-US/
Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.md5

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/
aoo/
4.0.0/
source/
aoo-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2



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Re: [DL][Website] Preparing AOO 4

2013-06-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

I've updated the test area in staging:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html


There are a couple of links in the sidebar to be improved, the rest 
looks very good:

* Release Schedule is actually a Release History, or timeline
* Dictionaries leads to a totally outdated section. We recently 
consolidated all dictionaries in extensions.openoffice.org , so I'd 
recommend a link Extensions and Dictionaries pointing to 
extensions.openoffice.org instead of two separate links.



1. I'm working with the following directory structure:
.../aoo/4.0.0/source/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/LANG/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/SDK/


Very personal opinion: SDK is not a language and feels out of place 
there. But it is just a matter of preference.



2. I'm working with the following filename structure:
(especially @Juergen + Ariel)
aoo-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2


Since this is our most official package, I would name it
apache-openoffice-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2
or
Apache_Openoffice-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2
if we want to use the same naming pattern we use for binaries. Anyway, I 
would prefer to see both Apache and OpenOffice present in full in 
the package name.


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  Andrea.

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Re: Draft blog post: When will OpenOffice version X be released?

2013-06-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:


 On Jun 8, 2013, at 5:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

  On 06/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
 
 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=when_will_openoffice_version_x
  Since we get this question frequently, I thought it would be good to
  have a canonical response we can point people to.
 
  It's good but I'd add pointers so that people who want to get involved
 can do so.
 
  It is time to give more visibility to development snapshots, for
 example: a link to
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsetswould
  help in getting more feedback. Or a link to any QA resource leading
 to it. We don't want to make them too visible since they are unofficial,
 but hiding them too much does not help either, especially when the release
 comes closer.

 We can discuss developer snapshots on list, but I think it is outside of
 ASF policy to publish URLs elsewhere - like in Blog posts.


yes...I think we have told this a few times...no public announcements of
development products




 We should point those interested in development to the dev ML and then on
 the ML point them to development resources ad hoc.

 
  Same for translations. It would be good to include a link to
  http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html

 Definitely.

 Regards,
 Dave

 
  Regards,
   Andrea.
 
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Re: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on aoo-win7

2013-06-08 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM,  build...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi! , The aoo-win7 builder has just completed a run

 STATUS: Failure

  Build revision 1490123 on branch openoffice/trunk

  Snapshot results at: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/

  Build using the ASF buildslave: bb-win7

  Build results at: http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/642

  Build reason was: The Nightly scheduler named 'aoo-win7-nightly' triggered 
 this build

C:/Progra~1/MICROS~1.0/VC/include\../../VC/include/unordered_set(64) :
error C2065: '_Hash_compare' : undeclared identifier

the bot might be suffering from the issue described here:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vcgeneral/thread/eaf24519-84e3-442e-ac7d-adab82a81ede

If you're using the original Feature Pack, you may want to install
the Feature Pack Refresh instead. If you installed the Windows SDK
after installing the Feature Pack, it overwrites a few headers and you
need to repair VS to get the Feature Pack headers back (this is
documented in the Feature Pack release notes).

If repairing does not work, install Visual C++ 2008 Feature Pack Release from
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=6922

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Re: Logo next steps

2013-06-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congrats Chris!

 Ok girls and guys, I've already made a dent in documenting where the logo
 appears in the different sections:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher
 I don't have sizes, but I want to review those sections and document new
 sizes with some wireframes what it would look like.
 Some of the layout could use some polishing which I could help with.

 I could generate the smaller images, fav icons, etc. once we have the SVG.
 I could check out and in changes, both code and resource files like images.


A quick thought on the workflow.  Abstractly we'll probably want a
master image SVG file and then a set of defined steps (a recipe)
that gets us from the master SVG to each of bitmap images we'll need.
This is probably not something that can be entirely automated, but we
could have steps in a text file stored parallel to the source, or on
the wiki.

For example, to produce the website logo from the master:

1) Remove the version number from the master logo

2) Crop to specified aspect ratio, with specified centering of the logo

3) Export to PNG, with alpha transparency, with specified dimensions

Something like that (with the details specified, obviously)

That way, if we ever need to tweak the logo master SVG we can
consistently generate the derived versions.

-Rob



 Samer


 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Rob Weir wrote:

 Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next
 steps?


 Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was
 basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in
 the survey.


  1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG.  Once I receive
 it I'll check it in.


 Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and
 paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our
 trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect
 too.


  2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go.
 What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha
 transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc.


 I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media.
 Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released.


  Note:  Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky
 connotations in some cultures.  So we need to include the version
 number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box?


 We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't
 include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was
 version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd
 to omit the 13 from the about box.

 Regards,
   Andrea.


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Re: [DL][Website] Preparing AOO 4

2013-06-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 06/09/2013 12:18 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

I've updated the test area in staging:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html


There are a couple of links in the sidebar to be improved, the rest
looks very good:
* Release Schedule is actually a Release History, or timeline


Right. Wouldn't it then be better to point to the new schedule?


* Dictionaries leads to a totally outdated section. We recently
consolidated all dictionaries in extensions.openoffice.org , so I'd
recommend a link Extensions and Dictionaries pointing to
extensions.openoffice.org instead of two separate links.


Then it's IMHO better to extend the link in the light blue box to speak 
about Get Apache OpenOffice Extensions and Dictionaries and delete the 
link in the nav sidebar.


I've concentrated on the DL links. Thanks for looking right and left. ;-)
Updated.


1. I'm working with the following directory structure:
.../aoo/4.0.0/source/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/LANG/
.../aoo/4.0.0/binaries/SDK/


Very personal opinion: SDK is not a language and feels out of place
there. But it is just a matter of preference.


Yes, me too. However, we had this discussion last year and some wanted 
to have SDK on the same level as the languages.


Because we save one complexity level I can live with this very well.

We shouldn't forget that this is just the structure on the mirrors. 
Nearly nobody will see or take care about this. ;-)



2. I'm working with the following filename structure:
(especially @Juergen + Ariel)
aoo-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2


Since this is our most official package, I would name it
apache-openoffice-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2
or
Apache_Openoffice-4.0.0-r1234567890-src.tar.bz2
if we want to use the same naming pattern we use for binaries. Anyway, I
would prefer to see both Apache and OpenOffice present in full in
the package name.


Good idea.

@Juergen:
As you are producing the source packages, please can you take this into 
account?


Thanks

Marcus


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Re: problem opening older Word 6 doc with 4.0

2013-06-08 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Kay,
  Could you please share the bug ID when you reported it?
  It sounds like a ship stopper candidate if can be confirmed.
  Thanks!

- Shenfeng (Simon)



2013/6/7 Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de

 Thank you! Since there still are quite a few older files around AOo 4
 should be able to open them.


 Am 06.06.2013 18:25, schrieb Kay Schenk:

  4.0 is giving me this message when trying to open an older Word 6 version
 document...

 Read-Error .
 This is not a WinWord 97 file.

 This is an old document I downloaded from a public server quite some time
 ago.

 it was readable in 3.4.1, but not now.

 I will file a bug and upload it.



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