date:20130726

I got a remark from the author: it seems that authors have to write to a mail
address to ask for approval, which he did. So was there a delay in the handling
of the queue in that mailbox or is there a problem with the mail address?
Don't take me wrong, it's not about criticism, it's just to make sure there has
not been any change that shut down that mail address!

Hagar

Le 25/07/2013 23:03, Hagar Delest a écrit :

Works fine indeed. Many thanks fo rthe reactivity Roberto!

Hagar

Le 25/07/2013 22:54, Roberto Galoppini a écrit :

2013/7/25 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net

Related to this post: http://forum.openoffice.org/**
en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=**63081#p279610http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=63081#p279610

It seems that a new version of the page related to the French dictionary
needs to be approved. Does it take a long time? (anti-spam measure?)

Correct, it happens only if the anti-spam is triggered for some reason
(e.g. links).

Current workaround is to go to the LibO site. The author took the time to
make an AOO page for his extension, it deserves a green light ASAP.

Done.

Roberto

Thanks
Hagar

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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release


Le 26/07/2013 01:50, Peter Junge a écrit :

On 7/26/2013 12:18 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Pavel Janík pa...@janik.cz wrote:

Rob,

On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote:


This is the advantage of writing innovative code, not just copying it.


can you please stop writing such stupid sentences? Notice that I do not talk at 
all about the particular license issue.



I'm not talking about license issues either.  I'm just saying that if
you are the originator of a feature then you get press coverage twice:
  the 1st time when you initially release it and then a 2nd time when
another project copies it.  We're seeing that now.



A specific example, Ars Technica, on the LO 4.1 release:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/libreoffice-4-1-is-released-borrows-new-sidebar-from-openoffice/


Your comment there doesn't help anyone.


This discussion is not for helping anyone.
Since we thought that all the developers had switched to LibreOffice, we are 
pleased to see that there are some left who even fix LibO bugs and implement 
new features.
:-)

For the record, I'm aggregating the links here: 
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=63026

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Re: OpenOffice v.4.0.0 Lorem Ipsum extension glitch


If the extension has a toolbar, then it's linked to this problem: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg04066.html

Someone has to tweak the extension for 4.0 compatibility.

As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. 
Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at 
dev@openoffice.apache.org - replies to my personal email address will be 
ignored.

Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to 
your query.
To subscribe Apache OpenOffice mailing lists go to
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For user support you can also use The OpenOffice.org Community Forum
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/

Hagar


Le 25/07/2013 19:05, Peyton Farquhar a écrit :


Hi,

I'm attempting to use the Magenta Lorem Ipsum extension in OO v.4.0.0 on
Win XP SP, however, it does not work. The extension is clearly visible in
extension manager, and, I have removed/reinstalled/rebooted several times,
but the taskbar shortcut that enables generation of the dummy text that was
present in my previous version of OpenOffice 3.x is not in v.4.0.0. This
seems like a glitch that hasn't even been logged yet considering v.4.0.0 is
brand new. Also, I can't find any other references to the problem either
here or elsewhere.

Does anyone know where I can report the problem/have a resolution? I found
the creator's G+, but there is no way to contact him from either that page
or his website. I did email him directly at the email provided in the
extension at lodahl AT openoffice.org, but my msg was bounced back
evidently because the domain is no longer valid according to the rejection
msg.  Hence the reason why I am directing this msg here.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
PF



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Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar


Top posting.

Here we are. The first messages (ML and forum) about incompatibility are coming.
The identified extensions (with toolbar and not updated for 4.0) should be at 
least tagged in the extension site as not compatible with 4.0.

A quick tutorial on how to update the extension in case authors want to make 
the change urgently?

Hagar


Le 13/02/2013 00:00, Rob Weir a écrit :


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote:

Le 12/02/2013 13:05, Rob Weir a écrit :


I don't know.  I was asking a question.  But I think this is an
important question:  Why would an extension author not update their
extension for AOO 4.0?  Some hypothetical answers:

1) The extension is unmaintained



One of the top reasons I guess. I myslef made extensions for my own use. I
would have to tweak it. Since I've done them some time ago, I would have to
dive again in specifications to make the changes.




2)  The author cannot be located or we have no way to notify them of
changes



May be related to 1).




3) It is not clear to the author what technical changes are needed



Was a communication plan issued to warn the authors about that?
Don't tell me the release notes are for that. Almost nobody read the release
notes (at least until the end).
I guess that many extensions mlaintainers don't follow this dev list at all.



No, no.  The Release Notes are just what I proposed to collect these
kinds of items.  If we actually make breaking changes I'd expect to
see a bigger attempt to reach out to extension authors:

1) blog post

2) post to API list and forum

3) maybe banner on the extensions website itself

But this would make more sense after the changes are made and when we
can point to complete instructions as well as developer snaphot build
that the author can use to test their modifications.

What is not clear is how much notice is needed.  1 month?  2 months?  More?

-Rob






4) There is not sufficient calendar time for the extension author to
make the needed changes before we release, or the work required is too
much for the author to fit into his schedule



May be related to 3). Without any warning, few chances to implement any
change.




5) The author attempts changes but they don't work or they introduce
new problems



Rather unlikely.




6) The results of not making the changes is not clear, so the author
mistakenly thinks they are optional changes



Or he just don't care anymore about the extension. So it needs to be taken
over by someone else. But how we could know that?




7) Author has technical or account issues with the extensions website
and is unable to upload a new version, and does not know where to get
help.

These are all possible concerns, but I think most of them can be
managed with good communications and advance notice.

There is also the possibility of:

8) Inconvenience -- it is natural for anyone to complain about needing
to do additional work where they don't see the advantage.  So it is
natural that we will expect complaints, followed in the end by
conformance with the required changes.



Yes but what about the loss of confidence from users who will be first
frustrated by an upgrade that breaks more things than fix them? Then they
will have to do some homework to find out what the problem is (again, don't
tell me about release notes). And wait in the end for someone to fix it.
What if they do need their extensions meanwhile?

One side aspect: what about extension update warning? If a new version is
detected but the user doesn't upgrade to 4.0, are we sure that the minimal
version will be checked first, before the new extension is installed by the
user? Has he to download it before being warned that it's in fact not
compatible with his current AOO/OOo version?

I'm not against the change. I'm for a controlled one, that has no impact on
end-users. So the main points are: communication to the extensions
maintainers (what about the extensions hosted on their personal pages and
not on sourceforge?), preparation of the updates and transition period.

Hagar


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Re: Not necessary to be open office

2013-07-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 7/22/13 1:25 PM, Prince Soni wrote:
 Hello Melissa, 
 
   no need to be of open office. It could be any easy 
 project as long as it's related to java.
 
  
 
 Thanx for your reply
 
 Prince
 

Hi Prince,

fist of all you should subscribe to our dev@openoffice.apache,org
mailing list because there are the developers who can help and guide
you. Note the reply to ...

I can think of a new project that used OpenOffice and put some server
infrastructure around it. In detail I am think about a well defined and
specified webservice that allow to convert documents from one format
into another.

Such a project would have different parts

1. specifying and implementing an intuitive webservice API
2. specifying and implementing a server infra structure that can handle
multiple incoming request and dispatch these request on 1-n office
instances. Due to threading problems it is recommended to use one
instance for one conversion job. The number of office instances can be
configured or will be calculated based on the number of incoming requests.
3. thinking about a clever mechanism to kill and restart an office
instance from time to time to prevent too much memory consumption
because of memory leaks (that are not easy to find and to fix ;-) )


What do you think can this be interesting for you?

Juergen

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AOO 4.0 Release Feedback

2013-07-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

Hi,

I wanted to say some words to our release because of some private stuff
I wasn't able to participate live in the end phase. But I tried at
least to catch up some press coverages ;-)

First of all I think we did all together a good job and we can be proud
of what we have achieved. And that is the key message we should be proud
and should enjoy the moment a little bit.

A new 1 day download record, yeah! And that on the first full 24 hour
day after the release. That is impressive and I like it!

I am really proud to be part of this community and I hope we will
release many more version and will provide together the best free office
productivity suite.

Congratulation to our complete community. It's only possible together
and by working hand in hand. It was a pleasure to see the translation
process, the growing sidebar feature over several weeks, the logo work,
the other improvements in areas that will often not be noticed by our
users. I means the infra work, the wiki maintenance, the forum etc.
We have some further good stuff in the pipeline, iAccessibilty2, the
improved translation process, the 64bit port of MacOS ...
We have patches from the OSBA for better OOXML support that is from my
point f view important and we should work on the integration. Any I am
sure many other things will come up over time ...

Well we can always make things better and I am sure we will improve over
time but that is normal and make the whole thing so interesting. I
noticed an increasing interest of new volunteers in different areas. And
I believe we can do better to support newcomers and help where necessary
and guide them ... I know this is time consuming but it's necessary to
grow our community. And here we should try to grow especially the
developer community and we should think together what we can change or
improve to make this possible.

Anyway I am proud to be part of this project and I am looking forward to
more positive feedback for AOO 4.0 that will motivate us for the next
version ...

Thank you to all of you and wish all a nice weekend

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Re: AOO 4.0 Release Feedback

2013-07-26 Thread janI

On 26 July 2013 12:51, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to say some words to our release because of some private stuff
 I wasn't able to participate live in the end phase. But I tried at
 least to catch up some press coverages ;-)

 First of all I think we did all together a good job and we can be proud
 of what we have achieved. And that is the key message we should be proud
 and should enjoy the moment a little bit.

 A new 1 day download record, yeah! And that on the first full 24 hour
 day after the release. That is impressive and I like it!

 I am really proud to be part of this community and I hope we will
 release many more version and will provide together the best free office
 productivity suite.

 Congratulation to our complete community. It's only possible together
 and by working hand in hand. It was a pleasure to see the translation
 process, the growing sidebar feature over several weeks, the logo work,
 the other improvements in areas that will often not be noticed by our
 users. I means the infra work, the wiki maintenance, the forum etc.
 We have some further good stuff in the pipeline, iAccessibilty2, the
 improved translation process, the 64bit port of MacOS ...
 We have patches from the OSBA for better OOXML support that is from my
 point f view important and we should work on the integration. Any I am
 sure many other things will come up over time ...

 Well we can always make things better and I am sure we will improve over
 time but that is normal and make the whole thing so interesting. I
 noticed an increasing interest of new volunteers in different areas. And
 I believe we can do better to support newcomers and help where necessary
 and guide them ... I know this is time consuming but it's necessary to
 grow our community. And here we should try to grow especially the
 developer community and we should think together what we can change or
 improve to make this possible.

 Anyway I am proud to be part of this project and I am looking forward to
 more positive feedback for AOO 4.0 that will motivate us for the next
 version ...

 Thank you to all of you and wish all a nice weekend


I agree with you, and cannot find more descriptive words than yours, but
you did not write about an important point:

thx a lot for taking time to coordinate the release and keeping focussed
while the discussions went in all directions.

thx to everyone who participates small or big.

rgds
jan I.



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Re: AOO 4.0 Release Feedback

2013-07-26 Thread Rob Weir

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:39 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 On 26 July 2013 12:51, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to say some words to our release because of some private stuff
 I wasn't able to participate live in the end phase. But I tried at
 least to catch up some press coverages ;-)

 First of all I think we did all together a good job and we can be proud
 of what we have achieved. And that is the key message we should be proud
 and should enjoy the moment a little bit.

 A new 1 day download record, yeah! And that on the first full 24 hour
 day after the release. That is impressive and I like it!

 I am really proud to be part of this community and I hope we will
 release many more version and will provide together the best free office
 productivity suite.

 Congratulation to our complete community. It's only possible together
 and by working hand in hand. It was a pleasure to see the translation
 process, the growing sidebar feature over several weeks, the logo work,
 the other improvements in areas that will often not be noticed by our
 users. I means the infra work, the wiki maintenance, the forum etc.
 We have some further good stuff in the pipeline, iAccessibilty2, the
 improved translation process, the 64bit port of MacOS ...
 We have patches from the OSBA for better OOXML support that is from my
 point f view important and we should work on the integration. Any I am
 sure many other things will come up over time ...

 Well we can always make things better and I am sure we will improve over
 time but that is normal and make the whole thing so interesting. I
 noticed an increasing interest of new volunteers in different areas. And
 I believe we can do better to support newcomers and help where necessary
 and guide them ... I know this is time consuming but it's necessary to
 grow our community. And here we should try to grow especially the
 developer community and we should think together what we can change or
 improve to make this possible.

 Anyway I am proud to be part of this project and I am looking forward to
 more positive feedback for AOO 4.0 that will motivate us for the next
 version ...

 Thank you to all of you and wish all a nice weekend


 I agree with you, and cannot find more descriptive words than yours, but
 you did not write about an important point:

 thx a lot for taking time to coordinate the release and keeping focussed
 while the discussions went in all directions.


+1 Great job as Release Manager!

-Rob

 thx to everyone who participates small or big.

 rgds
 jan I.



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Re: Report Builder, bug

2013/7/24 Josef Latt josef.l...@gmx.net

Hi,

there seems to be a problem with the version of Report Builder in the
extension site. See below.

Hi Josef,

Actually 1.2.1-rev2 is not a valid release number. For the time being
we'll use 1.2.1 for updates.

Thanks for heads up on this.

Roberto

Regards
Josef

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Betreff: Re: Report Builder
Datum: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:04:12 -0300
Von: Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org
An: Josef Latt josef.l...@web.de

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 05:25:50PM +0200, Josef Latt wrote:

Hi,

AOO 4.0.0 wants to upgrade the Report Builder to version 1.2.1-rev2.
After installing from the AOO extension site version is still 1.2.1.

Therefore I downloaded it from your site
(http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/extensions/**reportbuilder/http://people.apache.org/~arielch/extensions/reportbuilder/
)
meaning that this should be the 1.2.1-rev2.
But the extension manager still offers the upgrade.

In the file 'description.xml' you find version value=1.2.1/

If I change this to version value=1.2.1-rev2 no upgrade is offered.

Is your version the 1.2.1-rev2?

1.2.1-rev2 is not a valid version number... anyway, it seems to be this
http://extensions.openoffice.**org/en/projectrelease/oracle-**
report-builder-121-rev2http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/projectrelease/oracle-report-builder-121-rev2
but the version value inside the extension is still 1.2.1

This looks like a bug caused with extension's site update, feel free to
report it on dev@openoffice.apache.org

Regards
--
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Re: AOO 4.0 Release Feedback

2013-07-26 Thread Donald Harbison

+1 (!) Great job everyone, and especially to our Release Manager.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to say some words to our release because of some private stuff
 I wasn't able to participate live in the end phase. But I tried at
 least to catch up some press coverages ;-)

 First of all I think we did all together a good job and we can be proud
 of what we have achieved. And that is the key message we should be proud
 and should enjoy the moment a little bit.

 A new 1 day download record, yeah! And that on the first full 24 hour
 day after the release. That is impressive and I like it!

 I am really proud to be part of this community and I hope we will
 release many more version and will provide together the best free office
 productivity suite.

 Congratulation to our complete community. It's only possible together
 and by working hand in hand. It was a pleasure to see the translation
 process, the growing sidebar feature over several weeks, the logo work,
 the other improvements in areas that will often not be noticed by our
 users. I means the infra work, the wiki maintenance, the forum etc.
 We have some further good stuff in the pipeline, iAccessibilty2, the
 improved translation process, the 64bit port of MacOS ...
 We have patches from the OSBA for better OOXML support that is from my
 point f view important and we should work on the integration. Any I am
 sure many other things will come up over time ...

 Well we can always make things better and I am sure we will improve over
 time but that is normal and make the whole thing so interesting. I
 noticed an increasing interest of new volunteers in different areas. And
 I believe we can do better to support newcomers and help where necessary
 and guide them ... I know this is time consuming but it's necessary to
 grow our community. And here we should try to grow especially the
 developer community and we should think together what we can change or
 improve to make this possible.

 Anyway I am proud to be part of this project and I am looking forward to
 more positive feedback for AOO 4.0 that will motivate us for the next
 version ...

 Thank you to all of you and wish all a nice weekend

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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-26 Thread Donald Harbison

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:

Le 26/07/2013 01:50, Peter Junge a écrit :

On 7/26/2013 12:18 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Pavel Janík pa...@janik.cz wrote:

Rob,

On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

This is the advantage of writing innovative code, not just copying it.

can you please stop writing such stupid sentences? Notice that I do
not talk at all about the particular license issue.

I'm not talking about license issues either. I'm just saying that if
you are the originator of a feature then you get press coverage twice:
the 1st time when you initially release it and then a 2nd time when
another project copies it. We're seeing that now.

A specific example, Ars Technica, on the LO 4.1 release:

http://arstechnica.com/**information-technology/2013/**
07/libreoffice-4-1-is-**released-borrows-new-sidebar-**from-openoffice/http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/libreoffice-4-1-is-released-borrows-new-sidebar-from-openoffice/

Your comment there doesn't help anyone.

This discussion is not for helping anyone.
Since we thought that all the developers had switched to LibreOffice, we
are pleased to see that there are some left who even fix LibO bugs and
implement new features.
:-)

For the record, I'm aggregating the links here:
http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=**63026http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=63026

Thank you Hagar. Nice to see the aggregation so easily visible to visitors
of the forum.
Many more I/T leaders from large businesses are investigating Apache
OpenOffice 4 now. Making it easy to see the wave of positive coverage is
very helpful for them as they do their evaluation work.

We may also want to consider providing a link to this page from the
http://openoffice.org home page related to the AOO4.0 Available for
Download section.

Hagar

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Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

2013/7/26 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net

 Top posting.

 Here we are. The first messages (ML and forum) about incompatibility are
 coming.
 The identified extensions (with toolbar and not updated for 4.0) should be
 at least tagged in the extension site as not compatible with 4.0.


 This has been already done actually. To be more specific:

A) a link to a version compatible with AOO 4.0 has been added for
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport and
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql_connector

B) 4.0 has been added to the list of possible compatibilities. For example
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/287/releases doesn't enlist 4.0
among AOO compatible versions, while new extensions have that set, see for
example http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/5644/releases.

Note that it's up to the author to indicate his/her extension compatibility
list, and he/she can update it without the need to upload the file again.

Roberto



 A quick tutorial on how to update the extension in case authors want to
 make the change urgently?

 Hagar


 Le 13/02/2013 00:00, Rob Weir a écrit :

  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
 wrote:

 Le 12/02/2013 13:05, Rob Weir a écrit :

  I don't know.  I was asking a question.  But I think this is an
 important question:  Why would an extension author not update their
 extension for AOO 4.0?  Some hypothetical answers:

 1) The extension is unmaintained



 One of the top reasons I guess. I myslef made extensions for my own use.
 I
 would have to tweak it. Since I've done them some time ago, I would have
 to
 dive again in specifications to make the changes.



  2)  The author cannot be located or we have no way to notify them of
 changes



 May be related to 1).



  3) It is not clear to the author what technical changes are needed



 Was a communication plan issued to warn the authors about that?
 Don't tell me the release notes are for that. Almost nobody read the
 release
 notes (at least until the end).
 I guess that many extensions mlaintainers don't follow this dev list at
 all.


 No, no.  The Release Notes are just what I proposed to collect these
 kinds of items.  If we actually make breaking changes I'd expect to
 see a bigger attempt to reach out to extension authors:

 1) blog post

 2) post to API list and forum

 3) maybe banner on the extensions website itself

 But this would make more sense after the changes are made and when we
 can point to complete instructions as well as developer snaphot build
 that the author can use to test their modifications.

 What is not clear is how much notice is needed.  1 month?  2 months?
  More?

 -Rob




  4) There is not sufficient calendar time for the extension author to
 make the needed changes before we release, or the work required is too
 much for the author to fit into his schedule



 May be related to 3). Without any warning, few chances to implement any
 change.



  5) The author attempts changes but they don't work or they introduce
 new problems



 Rather unlikely.



  6) The results of not making the changes is not clear, so the author
 mistakenly thinks they are optional changes



 Or he just don't care anymore about the extension. So it needs to be
 taken
 over by someone else. But how we could know that?



  7) Author has technical or account issues with the extensions website
 and is unable to upload a new version, and does not know where to get
 help.

 These are all possible concerns, but I think most of them can be
 managed with good communications and advance notice.

 There is also the possibility of:

 8) Inconvenience -- it is natural for anyone to complain about needing
 to do additional work where they don't see the advantage.  So it is
 natural that we will expect complaints, followed in the end by
 conformance with the required changes.



 Yes but what about the loss of confidence from users who will be first
 frustrated by an upgrade that breaks more things than fix them? Then they
 will have to do some homework to find out what the problem is (again,
 don't
 tell me about release notes). And wait in the end for someone to fix it.
 What if they do need their extensions meanwhile?

 One side aspect: what about extension update warning? If a new version is
 detected but the user doesn't upgrade to 4.0, are we sure that the
 minimal
 version will be checked first, before the new extension is installed by
 the
 user? Has he to download it before being warned that it's in fact not
 compatible with his current AOO/OOo version?

 I'm not against the change. I'm for a controlled one, that has no impact
 on
 end-users. So the main points are: communication to the extensions
 maintainers (what about the extensions hosted on their personal pages and
 not on sourceforge?), preparation of the updates and transition period.

 Hagar


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Re: Extensions need approval?

2013/7/26 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net

 I got a remark from the author: it seems that authors have to write to a
 mail address to ask for approval, which he did.


Yea, I can confirm the author wrote our website email address and I just
replied, but he didn't ask to publish his extension, though.



 So was there a delay in the handling of the queue in that mailbox or is
 there a problem with the mail address?
 Don't take me wrong, it's not about criticism, it's just to make sure
 there has not been any change that shut down that mail address!


Just to clarify how the anti-spam filter works: once the author upload a
file he/she is the only one that can see it, and he/she sees the following
message:

This extension is currently not published, please contact the system
administrator at !link to have it published.

The email address is the same used for all communications AOOE/T related,
and it's still aooad...@users.sourceforge.net.

Roberto


 Hagar


 Le 25/07/2013 23:03, Hagar Delest a écrit :


  Works fine indeed. Many thanks fo rthe reactivity Roberto!

 Hagar

 Le 25/07/2013 22:54, Roberto Galoppini a écrit :

  2013/7/25 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net

  Related to this post: http://forum.openoffice.org/**
 en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=63081#p279610http://forum.**
 openoffice.org/en/forum/**viewtopic.php?f=7t=63081#**p279610http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=63081#p279610
 

 It seems that a new version of the page related to the French dictionary
 needs to be approved. Does it take a long time? (anti-spam measure?)



 Correct, it happens only if the anti-spam is triggered for some reason
 (e.g. links).



  Current workaround is to go to the LibO site. The author took the time
 to
 make an AOO page for his extension, it deserves a green light ASAP.


 Done.

 Roberto



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Re: Sourceforge video saying 3.4.1

2013/7/25 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 07/25/2013 08:38 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

 2013/7/24 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

  Am 07/24/2013 01:08 AM, schrieb Shari Smith:

   Just though someone might want to either pull the video or update it :)

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 **?source=dlphttp://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**?source=dlp
 http://**sourceforge.net/projects/**openofficeorg.mirror/?source=**dlphttp://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/?source=dlp
 


 @Roberto:
 What do you think, can you update the video? Drew has posted here a
 version and link to his new brilliant artwork for AOO 4.0.0:

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/
 201307.mbox/%*
 ***3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2widJRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%**
 40mail.gmail.com%3Ehttp://**mail-archives.apache.org/mod_**
 mbox/openoffice-dev/201307.**mbox/%**3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2wid**
 JRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%**40mail.gmail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2widJRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
 


 Here we go: 
 http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/


 \o/

 Drew will be happy.


Indeed, and if he has any update I'll make sure to upload a new version.





  Marcus what about updating the feature section?


 You means this text?

 Features
 Cross platform (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X)
 170+ Languages
 Extensions available
 Commercial support available

 I would also add a line with Templates available as it is linked on the
 bottom of the webpage.


What about a short summary of all the new features enlisted in the release
notes?




 Also at least a new screenshot with the sidebar would be great.


Sure, let me know if you need any help to get things done.

Roberto




 Marcus

Re: Not understanding how to link events to Extensions Options Page

2013-07-26 Thread Rajath Shashidhara

Hello,

One thing I don't understand is when is external_event triggered?



On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Rajath Shashidhara 
rajaths.raja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have attached my options page design.
 I have three buttons, Edit, Delete and Add.
 I'm not understanding how to add events to identify these button clicks in
 my XContainerWindowEventHandler Implementation.

 Please help.

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 M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
 Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
 Pilani




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Re: Not understanding how to link events to Extensions Options Page

2013-07-26 Thread Oliver Brinzing

Hi Rajath,

i am sending you an example extension via email

Regards

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Re: Not understanding how to link events to Extensions Options Page

2013-07-26 Thread Rajath Shashidhara

Hello Oliver,

Thank you..!


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Re: Not understanding how to link events to Extensions Options Page

2013-07-26 Thread Rajath Shashidhara

Hello,
When I listening to button clicks using XActionListener,
I receive an ActionEvent.

ActionEvent has a string ActionCommand attribute.
What are the values that actionCommand string can take?
Any enumeration or constant group exists?

the api reference says:
he object that implements the
XActionListenerhttp://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/awt/XActionListener.html
interface
gets this ActionEvent when the event occurs. The listener is therefore
spared the details of processing individual mouse movements and mouse
clicks, and can instead process a meaningful (semantic) event like
button pressed.

so, should I check:
actionCommand.compareTo(button pressed)==0 ?


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rajaths.raja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Oliver,

 Thank you..!


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 oliver.brinz...@gmx.dewrote:

 Hi Rajath,

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[Website]

2013-07-26 Thread margaux.ha...@gmail.com

Bonjour,

Je possède un nouvel ordinateur portable depuis peu. Celui ci fonctionne avec 
Windows 8. Ce matin j’ai télécharger la version payante d’Open Office (avec les 
sms par code). J’ai envoyé 4 sms qui m’ont coûté chacun 4,50€. Malgré cette 
version, je n’arrive toujours pas à trouver le logiciel sur mon ordinateur. 
Pourtant, je suis allé jusqu’au bout de l’installation.

 

En vous remerciant de votre réponse

 

Margaux Hayer


Envoyé depuis Courrier Windows

Re: [Website]

2013-07-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:57:54 +
margaux.ha...@gmail.com margaux.ha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bonjour,
 
 Je possède un nouvel ordinateur portable depuis peu. Celui ci fonctionne avec 
 Windows 8. Ce matin j’ai télécharger la version payante d’Open Office (avec 
 les sms par code). J’ai envoyé 4 sms qui m’ont coûté chacun 4,50€. Malgré 
 cette version, je n’arrive toujours pas à trouver le logiciel sur mon 
 ordinateur. Pourtant, je suis allé jusqu’au bout de l’installation.
 

Download _only_ from www.openoffice.org/download which will redirect you to a 
sourceforge site. This is correct. From this site the program will not need any 
password or payment.


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Re: [Website]

2013-07-26 Thread Ricardo Berlasso

 Margaux Hayer,

As you are not subscribed to the list, you have not received Rory's answer.
Find it below.

Regards
Ricardo


2013/7/26 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

 On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:57:54 +
 margaux.ha...@gmail.com margaux.ha...@gmail.com wrote:

  Bonjour,
 
  Je possède un nouvel ordinateur portable depuis peu. Celui ci fonctionne
 avec Windows 8. Ce matin j’ai télécharger la version payante d’Open Office
 (avec les sms par code). J’ai envoyé 4 sms qui m’ont coûté chacun 4,50€.
 Malgré cette version, je n’arrive toujours pas à trouver le logiciel sur
 mon ordinateur. Pourtant, je suis allé jusqu’au bout de l’installation.
 

 Download _only_ from www.openoffice.org/download which will redirect you
 to a sourceforge site. This is correct. From this site the program will not
 need any password or payment.


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Linux-32 buildbot back online?

2013-07-26 Thread Kay Schenk

I see by the logs today that the former Linux-32/Ubuntu buildbot is back
online -- with failures but it's up!

Can someone fill us in? Will we continue to use this instead of plans for a
new one?

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Re: Sourceforge video saying 3.4.1


Am 07/26/2013 03:59 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/25 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de


Am 07/25/2013 08:38 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:


2013/7/24 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

  Am 07/24/2013 01:08 AM, schrieb Shari Smith:


   Just though someone might want to either pull the video or update it :)


http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
**?source=dlphttp://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**?source=dlp
http://**sourceforge.net/projects/**openofficeorg.mirror/?source=**dlphttp://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/?source=dlp






@Roberto:
What do you think, can you update the video? Drew has posted here a
version and link to his new brilliant artwork for AOO 4.0.0:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/
201307.mbox/%*
***3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2widJRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%**
40mail.gmail.com%3Ehttp://**mail-archives.apache.org/mod_**
mbox/openoffice-dev/201307.**mbox/%**3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2wid**
JRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%**40mail.gmail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2widJRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%40mail.gmail.com%3E






Here we go: 
http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/



\o/

Drew will be happy.



Indeed, and if he has any update I'll make sure to upload a new version.






  Marcus what about updating the feature section?




You means this text?

Features
 Cross platform (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X)
 170+ Languages
 Extensions available
 Commercial support available

I would also add a line with Templates available as it is linked on the
bottom of the webpage.



What about a short summary of all the new features enlisted in the release
notes?


Good idea. However, it's difficult to select the best choices. The 
following is my suggestion. If anyone has another, feel free to add or 
correct:


New Features and Enhancements
- New Sidebar
- Interoperability Improvements for Text Documents, Spreadhseet 
Documents, Presentation Documents and OOXML file format in general

- DrawObject Improvements/Enhancements
  - New Color Palette
  - New Gradients
  - New Gallery Themes and Gallery enhancements
  - Refined the Selection Handles User Interface
  - Refined Selection Visualization
  - Better Print Preview
  - Enhanced conversion to Bitmap Graphics
  - Enhanced FillType 'Bitmap'
  - Enhanced Copy/Paste
  - Enhanced DragDrop
  - Adapt LineStart/End to LineWidth
  - SVG Export enhancements
  - SVG/Metafile Break improvements
  - SVG Import improvements
  - Picture Crop mode offers preview
  - Unified visualization of ColorPalette popups
  - Transparency support for pixel formats (PNG)
  - Connectors support rotation
  - Corrected Hatch fill style visualization
  - Better gradient support in metafiles
- Calc and Chart Improvements/Enhancements
  - Support relative Pie Chart Height:
  - New Functions
- AVERAGEIFS, COUNTIFS, SUMIFS, XOR, LEFTB, RIGHTB, LENB, MIDB and 
RAND (reimplemented to use the Mersenne-Twister algorithm)

- Extensions Improvements/Enhancements
  - New Toolbar management
  - Unified menu API
- Performance Improvements/Enhancements
  - Many resource leaks were fixed.
  - Speedup of Graphic Rendering
- Additional Language Support
- Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility
  - Module binfilter removed (legacy StarOffice file formats (.sdw, 
.sdc, .sdd, etc.)

  - Python support updated
  - Support for system C++ STL

If possible from the webpage frontend point-of-view add a possibility to 
expand and collapse this area, e.g., with + and - signs - like it is 
done with the Additional details text.


And a link to the release notes at the end like Click here to get the 
complete text would be great.



Also at least a new screenshot with the sidebar would be great.



Sure, let me know if you need any help to get things done.


Keep it simply. So, why not take these both ones from the release notes:

To see it in action:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30746475/screenshot-writer-context-shape.png

To see the possibilities:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30746475/sidebar-panels.png

Marcus


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Re: [Website]


Am 07/26/2013 04:57 PM, schrieb margaux.ha...@gmail.com:

Bonjour,

Je possède un nouvel ordinateur portable depuis peu. Celui ci fonctionne avec 
Windows 8. Ce matin j’ai télécharger la version payante d’Open Office (avec les 
sms par code). J’ai envoyé 4 sms qui m’ont coûté chacun 4,50€. Malgré cette 
version, je n’arrive toujours pas à trouver le logiciel sur mon ordinateur. 
Pourtant, je suis allé jusqu’au bout de l’installation.

En vous remerciant de votre réponse

Margaux Hayer

Envoyé depuis Courrier Windows


Bonjour,

I don't understand any French but have use the Google translator. So, I 
hope I've understood the problem correctly.


It seems you have downloaded (or tried to) Apache OpenOffice from a 
website which is not the official one. There we have no influence how 
they offer the software (e.g., registration needed, payment needed).


Please use only the official source to get OpenOffice. We offer our 
software - together with SourceForge as our mirror host - without any 
pitfalls:


http://www.openoffice.org/download/

Just click on Download, wait to finish the file transfer and start the 
installation from where you have saved the file locally. :-)


Thank you very much for your understanding.

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What about .uno:ToolBarVisible in GenericCommands.xcu

2013-07-26 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi all,

during translation I came to Main ~Toolbar from .uno:ToolbarVisible in 
GenericCommands.xcu.


But I do not find any UI element for .uno:ToolbarVisible. Can you point 
me to such element? Or why is that command there?


Kind regards
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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-26 Thread Anton Meixome

Galician (and a condolence note about train accident in my coutry)

http://codigocero.com/Trasno-anuncia-novas-versions-en

http://www.trasno.net/2013/07/os-fillos-de-openoffice-org-openoffice-4-0-e-libreoffice-4-1-facendose-maiores/

http://www.mancomun.org/no_cache/actualidade/detalledenova/nova/apache-openoffice-40-e-libreoffice-41-disponibles-xa-en-galego/

http://osl.cixug.es/a-fundacion-apache-presenta-openoffice-4-0/

P.S.
Discuss AOO against LibreOffice people and inverse are, IMHO,
completely painful and unreal matter.


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Re: AOO 4.0 Release Feedback

2013-07-26 Thread Kay Schenk

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to say some words to our release because of some private stuff
 I wasn't able to participate live in the end phase. But I tried at
 least to catch up some press coverages ;-)

 First of all I think we did all together a good job and we can be proud
 of what we have achieved. And that is the key message we should be proud
 and should enjoy the moment a little bit.

 A new 1 day download record, yeah! And that on the first full 24 hour
 day after the release. That is impressive and I like it!

 I am really proud to be part of this community and I hope we will
 release many more version and will provide together the best free office
 productivity suite.

 Congratulation to our complete community. It's only possible together
 and by working hand in hand. It was a pleasure to see the translation
 process, the growing sidebar feature over several weeks, the logo work,
 the other improvements in areas that will often not be noticed by our
 users. I means the infra work, the wiki maintenance, the forum etc.
 We have some further good stuff in the pipeline, iAccessibilty2, the
 improved translation process, the 64bit port of MacOS ...
 We have patches from the OSBA for better OOXML support that is from my
 point f view important and we should work on the integration. Any I am
 sure many other things will come up over time ...

 Well we can always make things better and I am sure we will improve over
 time but that is normal and make the whole thing so interesting. I
 noticed an increasing interest of new volunteers in different areas. And
 I believe we can do better to support newcomers and help where necessary
 and guide them ... I know this is time consuming but it's necessary to
 grow our community. And here we should try to grow especially the
 developer community and we should think together what we can change or
 improve to make this possible.

 Anyway I am proud to be part of this project and I am looking forward to
 more positive feedback for AOO 4.0 that will motivate us for the next
 version ...

 Thank you to all of you and wish all a nice weekend

 Juergen


Your words speak volumes and thank you for them.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] New other.html for all possible download links

2013-07-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 25/07/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

I've created a new webpage to offer all possible download links for a
release version:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_tables.html


This is really nice, looking forward to seeing it online!

It's especially important to have a link to checksums for those who want 
a static reference to it or want to verify a package on a different 
system than the one used for downloading.



- all possible downloads for a respective language and OS in a single
place


I foresee another interesting way to use that page, i.e., getting more 
localization volunteers. Let's get this version online first, but maybe 
we could then add another table with something like The following 
languages are released only as source code:, and then a list of each of 
the 90+ remaining languages with the link to help us release it (in most 
cases, it will be a link to http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html 
but in some cases it might be different).



@Andrea:
I've already considered your smaller font size wish for the checksum links.


Thanks, looks great.

Regards,
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New other.html for all possible download links


Am 07/26/2013 10:44 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 25/07/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

I've created a new webpage to offer all possible download links for a
release version:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_tables.html


This is really nice, looking forward to seeing it online!


see below


It's especially important to have a link to checksums for those who want
a static reference to it or want to verify a package on a different
system than the one used for downloading.


That was one intension, yes.


- all possible downloads for a respective language and OS in a single
place


I foresee another interesting way to use that page, i.e., getting more
localization volunteers. Let's get this version online first, but maybe
we could then add another table with something like The following
languages are released only as source code:, and then a list of each of
the 90+ remaining languages with the link to help us release it (in most
cases, it will be a link to http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html
but in some cases it might be different).


Good idea. However, I think I've to add more additions than one can 
thought. But this is no obstacle.



@Andrea:
I've already considered your smaller font size wish for the checksum
links.


Thanks, looks great.


Thanks. :-)

Even when I've missed to state it from the beginning but I expect to use 
lazy consensus here. If there are no objections I plan to make it Live 
at ~Sunday evening Hamburg time.


Marcus


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Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar


Le 26/07/2013 15:40, Roberto Galoppini a écrit :

A) a link to a version compatible with AOO 4.0 has been added for
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport and
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql_connector

B) 4.0 has been added to the list of possible compatibilities. For example
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/287/releases doesn't enlist 4.0
among AOO compatible versions, while new extensions have that set, see for
example http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/5644/releases.

Note that it's up to the author to indicate his/her extension compatibility
list, and he/she can update it without the need to upload the file again.


But it means that the author has to be aware that there is a change and he has 
to update the relevant field.
There is no script that could add the lack of compatibility if the extension 
has not been updated yet?

For the record, in the case of the Lorem ipsum extension, the author doesn't 
seem to be willing to update it...

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Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

2013-07-26 Thread Rob Weir

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote:
 Le 26/07/2013 15:40, Roberto Galoppini a écrit :

 A) a link to a version compatible with AOO 4.0 has been added for
 http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport and
 http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql_connector

 B) 4.0 has been added to the list of possible compatibilities. For
 example
 http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/287/releases doesn't enlist 4.0
 among AOO compatible versions, while new extensions have that set, see for
 example http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/5644/releases.

 Note that it's up to the author to indicate his/her extension
 compatibility
 list, and he/she can update it without the need to upload the file again.


 But it means that the author has to be aware that there is a change and he
 has to update the relevant field.
 There is no script that could add the lack of compatibility if the extension
 has not been updated yet?

 For the record, in the case of the Lorem ipsum extension, the author doesn't
 seem to be willing to update it...


If an extension is essentially abandoned then it is only a matter of
time before it breaks.  Either that or we put ourselves into a
position where we can never evolve and improve our API.  We should
focus on the needs of active extension developers, not the inactive
ones.

This is what we did to keep extension authors in the loop:

1) We created a special mailing list, a...@openoffice.apache.org for
discussions about extensions.

2) We worked with SourceForge to send an email to all registered
extension authors to invite them to the new list.  This was done
before the *.openoffice.org email forwarder was shut down, so they all
should have received the note.

3) We announce the 4.0 API changes on the API list and answered any
questions that came up.

True, not everyone is happy about the changes.  But we tried to ensure
that every active extension author was aware of the changes coming.

Regards,

-Rob

 Hagar

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