Re: space in wiki for documentation of branches
On 1/9/14 10:56 PM, Armin Le Grand wrote: On 09.01.2014 00:36, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 1/8/14 7:57 PM, jan i wrote: -8- please be aware that cwiki is not nearly as visited as mwiki, so putting it in cwiki is a real good hiding place. exactly, we should use mediawiki whenever possible, we could move the content from confluence to mediawiki to make it even more clear. Important pages will be monitored and wrong or damaging changes can be corrected. I have updated that page (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Source_Code) now and added my current branches. How can I now add a link to a page where I want to document the state and development of my branch alg_writerframes? I do not want to do that in the list there, that will be too much. In that form it may also give a preview of what may be coming to the next versions (without forcing it, it should be train model based). E.g. with accessibility when it would have been documented there it would be more clear where it comes from, evtl. how far it is progressed and if it will be in one of the next versions (e.g. include a single 'progress' percent number). I dont object to the idea, but do we really want to that much red tape around using branches. I would for sure remove capstone/l10n40 and keep it local instead if I have to document in cwiki. please remember the more documentation (in, at least to me, and unkown wiki language) makes it more likely that people considering a branch stop the idea. it should be no must to document in detail but a short paragraph describing for what kind of work the branch in intended can help. And more documentation can help developers to organize their work or can help for collaboration to work with more people on the same branch. But again it should be no must if people lose interest because of the documentation burden. I think a short paragraph in the list on the page https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Source_Code will be fine and not too much requirement to do for everyone. Maybe this could even be automated when someone creates a link (just adding the link to it, the creation date and the creator? Herbert, is that possible..?). I need the possibility to add an extra link there (probably assocciated to some more... text or similar) which leads to an extra page with extended documentation (I want to share info with another developer in a central place - this is the Wiki from my POV). This should of course not be mandatory, but possibe. create a new wiki page with the topic of your branch, for example the sidebar branch was related to the sidebar wiki page. And then you can simply insert a wiki link to this more descriptive wiki page. See also https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Help:Editing I find the wiki reference card useful http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Reference_card Juergen Sincerely, Armin Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
I started an Apache Open Office app at 2:30 AM on 1-9-2014 Upon starting a window came up INSTALL CONVERTER INSTALLATION You're a few steps away from getting the Install Converter. A download percentage bar shows for each part being downloaded. It is now 4:26 AM on 1/10/2014 and part number 5080 just downloaded and it's still continuing to download part after part. OVER 24 hours later. I have high speed internet and I can't understand what's taking so long. There is no provision to stop the download, abort the download, cancel the down load. It's a new computer with Windows 8. I'm using Mozilla Firefox to down load. Need to know if I'm got a problem going on here. There was no indication that it would go on like this.
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:31:59 -0500 (EST) rpjack...@aol.com wrote: I started an Apache Open Office app at 2:30 AM on 1-9-2014 Upon starting a window came up INSTALL CONVERTER INSTALLATION You're a few steps away from getting the Install Converter. A download percentage bar shows for each part being downloaded. It is now 4:26 AM on 1/10/2014 and part number 5080 just downloaded and it's still continuing to download part after part. OVER 24 hours later. I have high speed internet and I can't understand what's taking so long. There is no provision to stop the download, abort the download, cancel the down load. It's a new computer with Windows 8. I'm using Mozilla Firefox to down load. Need to know if I'm got a problem going on here. There was no indication that it would go on like this. I suggest you remove this version from your computer as soon as may be. Best then to run indepth Virus and Malware scans. Download only from www.openoffice.org/download, which will redirect you to SourceForge servers. On those downloads you will find no intrusive add-ons. The file you download should be one file of about 135-150MB (depending on platform). -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper
On 09.01.2014 16:47, Steele, Raymond wrote: We found a work around for this problem, but believe it may be implemented incorrectly. We added the following to the top of fmtatr2.cxx: #ifndef _RWSTD_NO_MEMBER_TEMPLATES #define _RWSTD_NO_MEMBER_TEMPLATES 1 #endif A good find! And indeed [1] also ran into such a problem and defining that to disable templatized version of std::vectorT::assign() was a workaround needed by the SunStudio compiler. http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/ticket/224 The compile of sw then began compiling correctly. Any thoughts? I'd say that all such defines that make boost less aggressive in using advanced template magic are fine, so don't worry about it. But I'd use such an option consistently then, not only in one file. I suggest to add a -D_RWSTD_NO_MEMBER_TEMPLATES=1 into the solaris makefiles in solenv. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper
On 09.01.2014 22:48, Steele, Raymond wrote: Attached is a copy of the stack trace when we tried to launch both the Word Processor and the Spreadsheet application in OpenOffice. We are going to attempt to resolve the crash based on this information, but if anything pops out at you, please let us know. The crashes in Writer and Calc you are seeing both happen when copy constructing an OUString from one provided by the SidebarController, so the provided string must be bad. I suggest to set a breakpoint at SidebarController.cxx:257 and examine the rEvent.ApplicationName and rEvent.ContextName whether these are good strings. From the stack I'd say they probably are not. Then go up the stack and check where they come from and why their are bad. Good luck! (I'll be away next week, starting this weekend) Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Web accessibility guidelines -- which ones?
Hi, I agree that WCAG 2.0 is the way to go; the current Section 508 is still based on a pre-final version of WCAG 1.0 and will hopefully get updated by the end of the year. I wouldn't aim higher than WCAG 2.0 AA; even WCAG 2.0 A may be a challenge at the start. With regard to tools, I currently don't know what to recommend because I haven't evaluated any such tools recently. WebAIM's WAVE http://wave.webaim.org/ (and the Firefox toolbar http://wave.webaim.org/toolbar/) and the IDRC's AChecker http://achecker.ca/checker/index.php were developed by competent teams. I don't know who's behind Total Validator (meaning: I don't know the developers). Best regards, Christophe Am Fr, 10.01.2014, 04:35 schrieb V Stuart Foote: Rob, *, ... However, there was a confusing (to me) number of authorities for accessibility standards. It is really pretty simple--WCAG 2.0 is the gold standard for Web content, and is applicable to Non-Web Information and Communications Technologies (ICT). National and International Standards bodies are basing conformance against this standard. WCAG 2.0 A, AA, AAA ( also published as ISO/IEC 40500:2012 ) are functional levels of conformance with accessibility standards. http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag The reworked AOO Website should probably meet majority of WCAG v2.0 AA level requirements. And Apache OpenOffice as a document preparation and review program should also strive to meet WCAG level A AA conformance criteria for ICT (http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2ict/ ). Fortunately much of that is accomplished for the website with valid HTML 5.0 and WAI-ARIA markup. While the introduction of IAccessible2 to supplement MSAA, and improvements in ATK and NSAccessibility move the office suite proper into a better compliance with some notable shortcommings. In the United States, the existing Accessibility Board US Section 508 requirements were loosely equivalent to WCAG v1, and are being rewritten to match functional levels of WCAG 2.0 A AA. The draft proposal for U.S. conformance can be found here: http://www.access-board.gov/attachments/article/490/draft-rule.pdf Also, relevant parts of the European Union EN 301 549 ( http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/01.00.00_20/en_301549v01c.pdf ) as work of the European Commision (EC) Mandate M 376 ( http://www.mandate376.eu/ ) are also based on WCAG v2.0 level A and AA. So running conformance validators for WCAG 2.0 A, AA, AAA is probably the correct choice in reworking the web site. Stuart -- Christophe Strobbe Akademischer Mitarbeiter Adaptive User Interfaces Research Group Hochschule der Medien Nobelstraße 10 70569 Stuttgart Tel. +49 711 8923 2749 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Build Fails In Module Coinmp
On 09.01.2014 17:39, Tyler Kavanaugh wrote: I was able to start the build using Herbert's suggestion, and everything seemed to be going well all the way until the build system tried to build the modules coinmp, python, and sal. At that point, it failed. I've got a build log I can submit, if anyone wants to see it. I also tried building the individual module sal, by running: build --from sal -P2 -- -P2 and ended up getting some sort of undefined symbol error coming from the STL headers, as far as I could tell. Are you building AOO 4.0.x or trunk? On what platform? If you are building AOO 4.0.x you have to use the --without-stlport configure option. On trunk this is automatically enabled. The relevant excerpt from the build log are essential for solving the problem. I personally am away for the next couple of days though, but maybe someone else can figure out what went wrong. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Web accessibility guidelines -- which ones?
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:35 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote: Rob, *, ... However, there was a confusing (to me) number of authorities for accessibility standards. It is really pretty simple--WCAG 2.0 is the gold standard for Web content, and is applicable to Non-Web Information and Communications Technologies (ICT). National and International Standards bodies are basing conformance against this standard. WCAG 2.0 A, AA, AAA ( also published as ISO/IEC 40500:2012 ) are functional levels of conformance with accessibility standards. http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag The reworked AOO Website should probably meet majority of WCAG v2.0 AA level requirements. And Apache OpenOffice as a document preparation and review program should also strive to meet WCAG level A AA conformance criteria for ICT (http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2ict/ ). Fortunately much of that is accomplished for the website with valid HTML 5.0 and WAI-ARIA markup. While the introduction of IAccessible2 to supplement MSAA, and improvements in ATK and NSAccessibility move the office suite proper into a better compliance with some notable shortcommings. In the United States, the existing Accessibility Board US Section 508 requirements were loosely equivalent to WCAG v1, and are being rewritten to match functional levels of WCAG 2.0 A AA. The draft proposal for U.S. conformance can be found here: http://www.access-board.gov/attachments/article/490/draft-rule.pdf Also, relevant parts of the European Union EN 301 549 ( http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/01.00.00_20/en_301549v01c.pdf ) as work of the European Commision (EC) Mandate M 376 ( http://www.mandate376.eu/ ) are also based on WCAG v2.0 level A and AA. So running conformance validators for WCAG 2.0 A, AA, AAA is probably the correct choice in reworking the web site. Thanks for the explanation. One question: would we need to run against each of the profiles, or AAA include AA and A automatically? In other words, is AA a superset of A, and AAA a superset of AA? Or are they more like incremental rule sets, that need to be applied in addition to the base rule sets? Regards, -Rob Stuart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Web accessibility guidelines -- which ones?
Hi Rob, All, Level AA also encompasses all of level A, and level AAA encompasses all of level AA. So if a tool has radio buttons for the three levels, choosing AA should result in a check of all level A and all level AA criteria. Of course, such checks only cover aspects that can be checked automatically (which is definitely less than half of WCAG). Please note that level AAA is a very high level. For example, it requires that content should be made readable for people whose reading ability is at lower secondary education level http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#meaning-supplements. Because of requirements like this one, AAA is not applicable or suitable to all web sites (e.g. academic journals). Best regards, Christophe Am Fr, 10.01.2014, 15:48 schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:35 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote: Rob, *, ... However, there was a confusing (to me) number of authorities for accessibility standards. It is really pretty simple--WCAG 2.0 is the gold standard for Web content, and is applicable to Non-Web Information and Communications Technologies (ICT). National and International Standards bodies are basing conformance against this standard. WCAG 2.0 A, AA, AAA ( also published as ISO/IEC 40500:2012 ) are functional levels of conformance with accessibility standards. http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag The reworked AOO Website should probably meet majority of WCAG v2.0 AA level requirements. And Apache OpenOffice as a document preparation and review program should also strive to meet WCAG level A AA conformance criteria for ICT (http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2ict/ ). Fortunately much of that is accomplished for the website with valid HTML 5.0 and WAI-ARIA markup. While the introduction of IAccessible2 to supplement MSAA, and improvements in ATK and NSAccessibility move the office suite proper into a better compliance with some notable shortcommings. In the United States, the existing Accessibility Board US Section 508 requirements were loosely equivalent to WCAG v1, and are being rewritten to match functional levels of WCAG 2.0 A AA. The draft proposal for U.S. conformance can be found here: http://www.access-board.gov/attachments/article/490/draft-rule.pdf Also, relevant parts of the European Union EN 301 549 ( http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/01.00.00_20/en_301549v01c.pdf ) as work of the European Commision (EC) Mandate M 376 ( http://www.mandate376.eu/ ) are also based on WCAG v2.0 level A and AA. So running conformance validators for WCAG 2.0 A, AA, AAA is probably the correct choice in reworking the web site. Thanks for the explanation. One question: would we need to run against each of the profiles, or AAA include AA and A automatically? In other words, is AA a superset of A, and AAA a superset of AA? Or are they more like incremental rule sets, that need to be applied in addition to the base rule sets? Regards, -Rob Stuart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Christophe Strobbe Akademischer Mitarbeiter Adaptive User Interfaces Research Group Hochschule der Medien Nobelstraße 10 70569 Stuttgart Tel. +49 711 8923 2749 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Interesting interoperability problem with formatting of date
Hi, I received a xls document with some date values, date related functions and formatting and noticed an interesting interoperability problem. For example: Cell Value FormatVisible Value A1 01/01/2014 MM/DD/YY 01/01/2014 A2 =DAY(A1) DD31 Excel shows the value 1 and the user expected the same value in OpenOffice but we show 31. The reason can be explained by looking in the help of the DAY function in Excel and OpenOffice (see below) The problem is the different reference date and counting. The serial number 1 in Excel is 01/01/1900. In OpenOffice we count from 0 and serial number 1 in AOO is related to 12/31/1899 because the reference date in AOO is 12/30/1899. If cell A2 would be formatted as number everything would be fine. But formatted as date it takes the integer value 1 as offset to our reference date, means 12/30/1899 + 1 day = 12/31/1899 = 31. So this means it is wrong or better misleading by design. I am not sure if this can be fixed or should be fixed. Any opinions? Juergen OpenOffice Help ### DAY Returns the day of given date value. The day is returned as an integer between 1 and 31. You can also enter a negative date/time value. Syntax DAY(Number) Number, as a time value, is a decimal, for which the day is to be returned. Examples DAY(1) returns 31 (since OpenOffice starts counting at zero from December 30, 1899) DAY(NOW()) returns the current day. =DAY(C4) returns 5 if you enter 1901-08-05 in cell C4 (the date value might get formatted differently after you press Enter). ### Excel Help ### DAY Show AllShow All Returns the day of a date, represented by a serial number. The day is given as an integer ranging from 1 to 31. Syntax DAY(serial_number) Serial_number is the date of the day you are trying to find. Dates should be entered by using the DATE function, or as results of other formulas or functions. For example, use DATE(2008,5,23) for the 23rd day of May, 2008. Problems can occur if dates are entered as text. Remarks Microsoft Excel stores dates as sequential serial numbers so they can be used in calculations. By default, January 1, 1900 is serial number 1, and January 1, 2008 is serial number 39448 because it is 39,448 days after January 1, 1900. Microsoft Excel for the Macintosh uses a different date system as its default. Values returned by the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be Gregorian values regardless of the display format for the supplied date value. For example, if the display format of the supplied date is Hijri, the returned values for the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be values associated with the equivalent Gregorian date. Example The example may be easier to understand if you copy it to a blank worksheet. ### - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Interesting interoperability problem with formatting of date
On 10.01.2014 17:12, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I received a xls document with some date values, date related functions and formatting and noticed an interesting interoperability problem. For example: Cell Value FormatVisible Value A1 01/01/2014 MM/DD/YY 01/01/2014 A2 =DAY(A1) DD31 Excel shows the value 1 and the user expected the same value in OpenOffice but we show 31. The reason can be explained by looking in the help of the DAY function in Excel and OpenOffice (see below) The problem is the different reference date and counting. The serial number 1 in Excel is 01/01/1900. In OpenOffice we count from 0 and serial number 1 in AOO is related to 12/31/1899 because the reference date in AOO is 12/30/1899. FWIW the rationale behind the different reference date is given in [1]. Apparently the problem solved by using a different reference was that the year 1900 was not a leap year, because of the modulo-100 rule. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=26125#c2 If cell A2 would be formatted as number everything would be fine. But formatted as date it takes the integer value 1 as offset to our reference date, means 12/30/1899 + 1 day = 12/31/1899 = 31. Weighing the benefits of the workaround mentioned above with interoperability problems or the problem Jürgen just described, my scale would tip for a reference date (== day 0) of Dec 31, 1899. So this means it is wrong or better misleading by design. I am not sure if this can be fixed or should be fixed. Any opinions? If there is a way to change our reference day without losing backwards compatibility for existing documents then we should go for it. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Interesting interoperability problem with formatting of date
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I received a xls document with some date values, date related functions and formatting and noticed an interesting interoperability problem. For example: Cell Value FormatVisible Value A1 01/01/2014 MM/DD/YY 01/01/2014 A2 =DAY(A1) DD31 Excel shows the value 1 and the user expected the same value in OpenOffice but we show 31. The reason can be explained by looking in the help of the DAY function in Excel and OpenOffice (see below) The problem is the different reference date and counting. The serial number 1 in Excel is 01/01/1900. In OpenOffice we count from 0 and serial number 1 in AOO is related to 12/31/1899 because the reference date in AOO is 12/30/1899. If cell A2 would be formatted as number everything would be fine. But formatted as date it takes the integer value 1 as offset to our reference date, means 12/30/1899 + 1 day = 12/31/1899 = 31. So this means it is wrong or better misleading by design. I am not sure if this can be fixed or should be fixed. Any opinions? OpenForumula (the spreadsheet formula part of ODF 1.2) says: -- 6.10.5 DAY Summary: Returns the day from a date. Syntax: DAY( DateParam Date ) Returns: Number Constraints: None Semantics: Returns the day portion of a date. -- So DAY returns a number. I hope we all agree that this number is 1, in your example, and cannot be anything else. Then the question is how we convert from numbers to dates. This is implementation-defined. Even totally within Excel it is inconsistent because Excel on the Mac uses a different base date (1/1/1904) than Excel on Windows. And as you point out OpenOffice uses a different reference date. So in practice the implicit conversion from numbers to dates is a non-portable construct. A smart spreadsheet application would warn the user whenever they tried to do this kind of conversion. The preferred technique is to use the DATE() function to explicitly convert from integers to a date value. This is portable. Regards, -Rob Juergen OpenOffice Help ### DAY Returns the day of given date value. The day is returned as an integer between 1 and 31. You can also enter a negative date/time value. Syntax DAY(Number) Number, as a time value, is a decimal, for which the day is to be returned. Examples DAY(1) returns 31 (since OpenOffice starts counting at zero from December 30, 1899) DAY(NOW()) returns the current day. =DAY(C4) returns 5 if you enter 1901-08-05 in cell C4 (the date value might get formatted differently after you press Enter). ### Excel Help ### DAY Show AllShow All Returns the day of a date, represented by a serial number. The day is given as an integer ranging from 1 to 31. Syntax DAY(serial_number) Serial_number is the date of the day you are trying to find. Dates should be entered by using the DATE function, or as results of other formulas or functions. For example, use DATE(2008,5,23) for the 23rd day of May, 2008. Problems can occur if dates are entered as text. Remarks Microsoft Excel stores dates as sequential serial numbers so they can be used in calculations. By default, January 1, 1900 is serial number 1, and January 1, 2008 is serial number 39448 because it is 39,448 days after January 1, 1900. Microsoft Excel for the Macintosh uses a different date system as its default. Values returned by the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be Gregorian values regardless of the display format for the supplied date value. For example, if the display format of the supplied date is Hijri, the returned values for the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be values associated with the equivalent Gregorian date. Example The example may be easier to understand if you copy it to a blank worksheet. ### - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Interesting interoperability problem with formatting of date
On 1/10/14 5:39 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I received a xls document with some date values, date related functions and formatting and noticed an interesting interoperability problem. For example: Cell Value FormatVisible Value A1 01/01/2014 MM/DD/YY 01/01/2014 A2 =DAY(A1) DD31 Excel shows the value 1 and the user expected the same value in OpenOffice but we show 31. The reason can be explained by looking in the help of the DAY function in Excel and OpenOffice (see below) The problem is the different reference date and counting. The serial number 1 in Excel is 01/01/1900. In OpenOffice we count from 0 and serial number 1 in AOO is related to 12/31/1899 because the reference date in AOO is 12/30/1899. If cell A2 would be formatted as number everything would be fine. But formatted as date it takes the integer value 1 as offset to our reference date, means 12/30/1899 + 1 day = 12/31/1899 = 31. So this means it is wrong or better misleading by design. I am not sure if this can be fixed or should be fixed. Any opinions? OpenForumula (the spreadsheet formula part of ODF 1.2) says: -- 6.10.5 DAY Summary: Returns the day from a date. Syntax: DAY( DateParam Date ) Returns: Number Constraints: None Semantics: Returns the day portion of a date. -- So DAY returns a number. I hope we all agree that this number is 1, in your example, and cannot be anything else. Then the question is how we convert from numbers to dates. This is implementation-defined. Even totally within Excel it is inconsistent because Excel on the Mac uses a different base date (1/1/1904) than Excel on Windows. And as you point out OpenOffice uses a different reference date. So in practice the implicit conversion from numbers to dates is a non-portable construct. A smart spreadsheet application would warn the user whenever they tried to do this kind of conversion. The preferred technique is to use the DATE() function to explicitly convert from integers to a date value. This is portable. the problem is that most users probably don't care about this from their end users perspective and will simply complain :-( Juergen Regards, -Rob Juergen OpenOffice Help ### DAY Returns the day of given date value. The day is returned as an integer between 1 and 31. You can also enter a negative date/time value. Syntax DAY(Number) Number, as a time value, is a decimal, for which the day is to be returned. Examples DAY(1) returns 31 (since OpenOffice starts counting at zero from December 30, 1899) DAY(NOW()) returns the current day. =DAY(C4) returns 5 if you enter 1901-08-05 in cell C4 (the date value might get formatted differently after you press Enter). ### Excel Help ### DAY Show AllShow All Returns the day of a date, represented by a serial number. The day is given as an integer ranging from 1 to 31. Syntax DAY(serial_number) Serial_number is the date of the day you are trying to find. Dates should be entered by using the DATE function, or as results of other formulas or functions. For example, use DATE(2008,5,23) for the 23rd day of May, 2008. Problems can occur if dates are entered as text. Remarks Microsoft Excel stores dates as sequential serial numbers so they can be used in calculations. By default, January 1, 1900 is serial number 1, and January 1, 2008 is serial number 39448 because it is 39,448 days after January 1, 1900. Microsoft Excel for the Macintosh uses a different date system as its default. Values returned by the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be Gregorian values regardless of the display format for the supplied date value. For example, if the display format of the supplied date is Hijri, the returned values for the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be values associated with the equivalent Gregorian date. Example The example may be easier to understand if you copy it to a blank worksheet. ### - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Interesting interoperability problem with formatting of date
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/10/14 5:39 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I received a xls document with some date values, date related functions and formatting and noticed an interesting interoperability problem. For example: Cell Value FormatVisible Value A1 01/01/2014 MM/DD/YY 01/01/2014 A2 =DAY(A1) DD31 Excel shows the value 1 and the user expected the same value in OpenOffice but we show 31. The reason can be explained by looking in the help of the DAY function in Excel and OpenOffice (see below) The problem is the different reference date and counting. The serial number 1 in Excel is 01/01/1900. In OpenOffice we count from 0 and serial number 1 in AOO is related to 12/31/1899 because the reference date in AOO is 12/30/1899. If cell A2 would be formatted as number everything would be fine. But formatted as date it takes the integer value 1 as offset to our reference date, means 12/30/1899 + 1 day = 12/31/1899 = 31. So this means it is wrong or better misleading by design. I am not sure if this can be fixed or should be fixed. Any opinions? OpenForumula (the spreadsheet formula part of ODF 1.2) says: -- 6.10.5 DAY Summary: Returns the day from a date. Syntax: DAY( DateParam Date ) Returns: Number Constraints: None Semantics: Returns the day portion of a date. -- So DAY returns a number. I hope we all agree that this number is 1, in your example, and cannot be anything else. Then the question is how we convert from numbers to dates. This is implementation-defined. Even totally within Excel it is inconsistent because Excel on the Mac uses a different base date (1/1/1904) than Excel on Windows. And as you point out OpenOffice uses a different reference date. So in practice the implicit conversion from numbers to dates is a non-portable construct. A smart spreadsheet application would warn the user whenever they tried to do this kind of conversion. The preferred technique is to use the DATE() function to explicitly convert from integers to a date value. This is portable. the problem is that most users probably don't care about this from their end users perspective and will simply complain :-( Which is why we should warn them when they are doing something non-portable. It is like a compiler warns you if you do something dumb. User behavior is part of the problem here. For example, one solution might be to have a safe mode in AOO where implicit conversions like this don't exist. If you try, you get an error, just as if you tried to enter a formula like = fish + 42 Did you know that there is a group dedicated the studying mistakes like this that users make in spreadsheets, the European Spreadsheet Risks Interest Group: http://www.eusprig.org/horror-stories.htm It is a real problem. Users might complain, but when I read about spreadsheet mistakes costing millions of dollars I wonder if users are complaining about the right things? Stricter type checking in spreadsheets (if made optional) would be huge help. -Rob Juergen Regards, -Rob Juergen OpenOffice Help ### DAY Returns the day of given date value. The day is returned as an integer between 1 and 31. You can also enter a negative date/time value. Syntax DAY(Number) Number, as a time value, is a decimal, for which the day is to be returned. Examples DAY(1) returns 31 (since OpenOffice starts counting at zero from December 30, 1899) DAY(NOW()) returns the current day. =DAY(C4) returns 5 if you enter 1901-08-05 in cell C4 (the date value might get formatted differently after you press Enter). ### Excel Help ### DAY Show AllShow All Returns the day of a date, represented by a serial number. The day is given as an integer ranging from 1 to 31. Syntax DAY(serial_number) Serial_number is the date of the day you are trying to find. Dates should be entered by using the DATE function, or as results of other formulas or functions. For example, use DATE(2008,5,23) for the 23rd day of May, 2008. Problems can occur if dates are entered as text. Remarks Microsoft Excel stores dates as sequential serial numbers so they can be used in calculations. By default, January 1, 1900 is serial number 1, and January 1, 2008 is serial number 39448 because it is 39,448 days after January 1, 1900. Microsoft Excel for the Macintosh uses a different date system as its default. Values returned by the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be Gregorian values regardless of the display format for the supplied date value. For example, if the display format of the supplied date is Hijri, the returned values for the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be values associated with the equivalent Gregorian date. Example The example may be easier to understand if
Re: Interesting interoperability problem with formatting of date
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:07:10 +0100 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/10/14 5:39 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I received a xls document with some date values, date related functions and formatting and noticed an interesting interoperability problem. For example: Cell Value FormatVisible Value A1 01/01/2014 MM/DD/YY 01/01/2014 A2 =DAY(A1) DD31 Excel shows the value 1 and the user expected the same value in OpenOffice but we show 31. The reason can be explained by looking in the help of the DAY function in Excel and OpenOffice (see below) The problem is the different reference date and counting. The serial number 1 in Excel is 01/01/1900. In OpenOffice we count from 0 and serial number 1 in AOO is related to 12/31/1899 because the reference date in AOO is 12/30/1899. If cell A2 would be formatted as number everything would be fine. But formatted as date it takes the integer value 1 as offset to our reference date, means 12/30/1899 + 1 day = 12/31/1899 = 31. So this means it is wrong or better misleading by design. I am not sure if this can be fixed or should be fixed. Any opinions? OpenForumula (the spreadsheet formula part of ODF 1.2) says: -- 6.10.5 DAY Summary: Returns the day from a date. Syntax: DAY( DateParam Date ) Returns: Number Constraints: None Semantics: Returns the day portion of a date. -- So DAY returns a number. I hope we all agree that this number is 1, in your example, and cannot be anything else. Then the question is how we convert from numbers to dates. This is implementation-defined. Even totally within Excel it is inconsistent because Excel on the Mac uses a different base date (1/1/1904) than Excel on Windows. And as you point out OpenOffice uses a different reference date. So in practice the implicit conversion from numbers to dates is a non-portable construct. A smart spreadsheet application would warn the user whenever they tried to do this kind of conversion. The preferred technique is to use the DATE() function to explicitly convert from integers to a date value. This is portable. the problem is that most users probably don't care about this from their end users perspective and will simply complain :-( Juergen Regards, -Rob Juergen OpenOffice Help ### DAY Returns the day of given date value. The day is returned as an integer between 1 and 31. You can also enter a negative date/time value. Syntax DAY(Number) Number, as a time value, is a decimal, for which the day is to be returned. Examples DAY(1) returns 31 (since OpenOffice starts counting at zero from December 30, 1899) DAY(NOW()) returns the current day. =DAY(C4) returns 5 if you enter 1901-08-05 in cell C4 (the date value might get formatted differently after you press Enter). ### Excel Help ### DAY Show AllShow All Returns the day of a date, represented by a serial number. The day is given as an integer ranging from 1 to 31. Syntax DAY(serial_number) Serial_number is the date of the day you are trying to find. Dates should be entered by using the DATE function, or as results of other formulas or functions. For example, use DATE(2008,5,23) for the 23rd day of May, 2008. Problems can occur if dates are entered as text. Remarks Microsoft Excel stores dates as sequential serial numbers so they can be used in calculations. By default, January 1, 1900 is serial number 1, and January 1, 2008 is serial number 39448 because it is 39,448 days after January 1, 1900. Microsoft Excel for the Macintosh uses a different date system as its default. Values returned by the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be Gregorian values regardless of the display format for the supplied date value. For example, if the display format of the supplied date is Hijri, the returned values for the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be values associated with the equivalent Gregorian date. Example The example may be easier to understand if you copy it to a blank worksheet. ### - Insert an Option in /Tools /Options : OpenOffice Calc : Calculate page, under Dates: a checkbox for dates compatible with Excel (and some warning about the error?) -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Interesting interoperability problem with formatting of date
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:07:10 +0100 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/10/14 5:39 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I received a xls document with some date values, date related functions and formatting and noticed an interesting interoperability problem. For example: Cell Value FormatVisible Value A1 01/01/2014 MM/DD/YY 01/01/2014 A2 =DAY(A1) DD31 Excel shows the value 1 and the user expected the same value in OpenOffice but we show 31. The reason can be explained by looking in the help of the DAY function in Excel and OpenOffice (see below) The problem is the different reference date and counting. The serial number 1 in Excel is 01/01/1900. In OpenOffice we count from 0 and serial number 1 in AOO is related to 12/31/1899 because the reference date in AOO is 12/30/1899. If cell A2 would be formatted as number everything would be fine. But formatted as date it takes the integer value 1 as offset to our reference date, means 12/30/1899 + 1 day = 12/31/1899 = 31. So this means it is wrong or better misleading by design. I am not sure if this can be fixed or should be fixed. Any opinions? OpenForumula (the spreadsheet formula part of ODF 1.2) says: -- 6.10.5 DAY Summary: Returns the day from a date. Syntax: DAY( DateParam Date ) Returns: Number Constraints: None Semantics: Returns the day portion of a date. -- So DAY returns a number. I hope we all agree that this number is 1, in your example, and cannot be anything else. Then the question is how we convert from numbers to dates. This is implementation-defined. Even totally within Excel it is inconsistent because Excel on the Mac uses a different base date (1/1/1904) than Excel on Windows. And as you point out OpenOffice uses a different reference date. So in practice the implicit conversion from numbers to dates is a non-portable construct. A smart spreadsheet application would warn the user whenever they tried to do this kind of conversion. The preferred technique is to use the DATE() function to explicitly convert from integers to a date value. This is portable. the problem is that most users probably don't care about this from their end users perspective and will simply complain :-( Juergen Regards, -Rob Juergen OpenOffice Help ### DAY Returns the day of given date value. The day is returned as an integer between 1 and 31. You can also enter a negative date/time value. Syntax DAY(Number) Number, as a time value, is a decimal, for which the day is to be returned. Examples DAY(1) returns 31 (since OpenOffice starts counting at zero from December 30, 1899) DAY(NOW()) returns the current day. =DAY(C4) returns 5 if you enter 1901-08-05 in cell C4 (the date value might get formatted differently after you press Enter). ### Excel Help ### DAY Show AllShow All Returns the day of a date, represented by a serial number. The day is given as an integer ranging from 1 to 31. Syntax DAY(serial_number) Serial_number is the date of the day you are trying to find. Dates should be entered by using the DATE function, or as results of other formulas or functions. For example, use DATE(2008,5,23) for the 23rd day of May, 2008. Problems can occur if dates are entered as text. Remarks Microsoft Excel stores dates as sequential serial numbers so they can be used in calculations. By default, January 1, 1900 is serial number 1, and January 1, 2008 is serial number 39448 because it is 39,448 days after January 1, 1900. Microsoft Excel for the Macintosh uses a different date system as its default. Values returned by the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be Gregorian values regardless of the display format for the supplied date value. For example, if the display format of the supplied date is Hijri, the returned values for the YEAR, MONTH and DAY functions will be values associated with the equivalent Gregorian date. Example The example may be easier to understand if you copy it to a blank worksheet. ### - Insert an Option in /Tools /Options : OpenOffice Calc : Calculate page, under Dates: a checkbox for dates compatible with Excel (and some warning about the error?) The problem is the average user won't know when to enable this option. If you're sent a XLS file you don't know if it was created in Excel or OpenOffice. Same for an ODS file. In fact your needs might vary from file to file. If there was a way to detect what app created the spreadsheet, then you might be able to do something. But if you have a situation
Re: AOO with database MariaDB (2)
2014/1/7 Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com Juregen, Can you translate in short version what kind the problem has Kunce? I am interesting for MariaDB too. Thanks in advance, Wlada Well, I'm not Juergen, but here's what I got from Google translate (not guaranteed for accuracy of course!) -- it would be useful to find out why the JDBC driver isn't working well... === translation I use Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 ( AOO401m5 (Build : 9714 ) - Rev. 1524958 ) with MariaDB on openSUSE 13.1 with processor AMD Athlon II X2 2.9 GHz. (Processor, memory, hard disk was changed with the Ugrade NOT ) - the JDBC driver is far too slow , so that is absolutely no work possible -so the driver aoo -my- SDBC -1.2 -0- linux_x86 - 64.oxt is used - the MariaDB has tables with m- to-n relations - to a form with sub - forms is used (SUB / * / SUB - forms) , which was originally created with OOo 1.0.5 and last with OOo 3.2 (openSUSE 11.3) without any problems was in use , the connection between the forms done with SQL queries (now AOO 4.0.1 WRONG: openSUSE 11.3 - CORRECT: openSUSE 13.1) - with AOO I now have the following problems 1) Form / Writer / Database When I click within the database in a field and there the search start then I get an error message if the search word is only an entry after the 40th Entry is ( for example, the 1000th entry). When I click before the search on the button Go to the end ( the database records) and then start the search , then no error message is displayed in the search - ie the search is successful (even when , for example, 1000 entry . ) . 2) Form / Writer / Database I have integrated check boxes. They are set to default state is not selected ( NULL ). Here it is impossible to deselect this , and to 0 (FALSE ) to put (NOT NULL ) , function NULL and TRUE ( 1 ). A switching of the marking field on only two values brings no improvement. MariaDB The field corresponds to a BIT. , the old fields in the database that are set to FALSE , are displayed correctly , and I change the values to the console directly into the Datenbak , then the display is in the form correct. too, a renewal of the marking field ( check box of AOO 4.0.1 ) brought no improvement . 3) Form / Writer / Database when a form ( with SUB- forms) ( 75kB ) and a Calc file (. ods) are open from 360kb and I another Calc file (. ods) of 1.1 MB open , then take the opening 25 seconds. Here OOo 3.2 was faster. When I push in the 1.1 MB file Ctrl F , then it takes 5 seconds before the search window is open . In OOo 3.2 , this window was there immediately. 4) macro The functioning Basic query under OOo 3.2 ResultSet.getDouble ( 1) now houses AOO 4.0.1 an incorrect result - it lacks the decimal places. I read these values now with ResultSet.getString (1 ) and convert it with CDbl () in a Double value , so my macros continue to work. Regards / Sincerely signed Stefan = 2014/1/7 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com Hi Stefan, the env to reproduce this error is more complex and I am no database expert. In general I recommend that you ask and describe your problem on the German user list (user...@openoffice.apache.org) where you can write in German and people understand you. Die Umgebung um den Fehler zu reproduzieren ist etwas komplexer und ich bin selber kein Datenbankexperte. Generell würde ich Dir empfehlen noch einmal auf der deutschen User Liste nachzufragen wo deutsch kommuniziert wird und die Leute dich verstehen. Juergen On 1/6/14 2:52 PM, Kunze wrote: erster Absatz überarbeitet Hallo, I have slowly time and my english is bad. Thats why I write german to this mail-address. Ich nutze Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (AOO401m5(Build:9714) - Rev. 1524958) mit MariaDB unter openSUSE 13.1 mit Prozessor AMD Athlon II X2 2,9GHz. (Prozessor, Speicher, Festplatte wurden mit dem Ugrade NICHT geändert) -der JDBC-Treiber ist viel zu langsam, damit ist absolut kein arbeiten möglich -deshalb wird der Treiber aoo-my-sdbc-1.2-0-linux_x86-64.oxt genutzt -die MariaDB hat Tabellen mit m-zu-n Beziehungen -dazu wird ein Formular mit SUB-Formularen (SUB/*/SUB-Formulare) genutzt, welches ursprünglich mit OOo-1.0.5 erstellt und zuletzt mit OOo-3.2 (openSUSE 11.3) absolut problemlos im Einsatz war, die Verbindung zwischen den Formularen erfolgt mit SQL-Abfragen (jetzt AOO 4.0.1, FALSCH: openSUSE 11.3 - RICHTIG: openSUSE 13.1) -mit AOO habe ich jetzt folgende Probleme 1) Formular/Writer/Datenbank Wenn ich innerhalb der Datenbank in ein Feld klicke und dort die Suche starte dann bekomme ich eine Fehlermeldung, wenn das gesuchte Wort erst ein Eintrag ist, der nach dem 40. Eintrag steht (z.B. beim 1000. Eintrag). Wenn ich vor der Suche auf den Button Springe ans Ende (der Datenbankeinträge) klicke und dann die Suche starte, dann
Re: Build Fails In Module Coinmp
On 1/10/2014 6:01 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 09.01.2014 17:39, Tyler Kavanaugh wrote: I was able to start the build using Herbert's suggestion, and everything seemed to be going well all the way until the build system tried to build the modules coinmp, python, and sal. At that point, it failed. I've got a build log I can submit, if anyone wants to see it. I also tried building the individual module sal, by running: build --from sal -P2 -- -P2 and ended up getting some sort of undefined symbol error coming from the STL headers, as far as I could tell. Are you building AOO 4.0.x or trunk? On what platform? If you are building AOO 4.0.x you have to use the --without-stlport configure option. On trunk this is automatically enabled. The relevant excerpt from the build log are essential for solving the problem. I personally am away for the next couple of days though, but maybe someone else can figure out what went wrong. I am building trunk on Windows XP SP3. I don't know which excerpt of the build log is relevant, so I'll attach the whole thing (~32 KB). Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org build -- version: 275224 = Building module solenv = Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/solenv solenv deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'solenv' delivered successfully. 3 files copied, 0 files unchanged = Building module boost = = Building module afms = = Building module more_fonts = = Building module MathMLDTD = = Building module extras = = Building module tomcat = = Building module x11_extensions = = Building module beanshell = = Building module soltools = = Building module sane = = Building module vigra = = Building module twain = = Building module hsqldb = = Building module unixODBC = = Building module stax = = Building module apr = Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/boost Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/afms Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/more_fonts/fonts/ttf_dejavu MathMLDTD deliver Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/extras/source/templates/presnt/lang Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/tomcat deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'MathMLDTD' delivered successfully. 3 files copied, 0 files unchanged x11_extensions deliver Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/beanshell Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/soltools/winunistd deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'x11_extensions' delivered successfully. 7 files copied, 0 files unchanged sane deliver Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/vigra deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'sane' delivered successfully. 2 files copied, 0 files unchanged Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/twain/util Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/hsqldb unixODBC deliver Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/stax deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'unixODBC' delivered successfully. 6 files copied, 0 files unchanged Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/ext_libraries/apr boost deliver Your java version already contains StAX afms deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'afms' delivered successfully. 2 files copied, 0 files unchanged Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/more_fonts/fonts/ttf_gentium Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/extras/source/symbols tomcat deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'tomcat' delivered successfully. 2 files copied, 0 files unchanged beanshell deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'beanshell' delivered successfully. 2 files copied, 0 files unchanged Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/soltools/mkdepend vigra deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'vigra' delivered successfully. 98 files copied, 0 files unchanged twain deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'twain' delivered successfully. 2 files copied, 0 files unchanged hsqldb deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'hsqldb' delivered successfully. 2 files copied, 0 files unchanged stax deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'stax' delivered successfully. 1 files copied, 0 files unchanged apr deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'apr' delivered successfully. 40 files copied, 3 files unchanged Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/more_fonts/fonts/ttf_croscore Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/extras/source/gallery/txtshapes Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/soltools/support Making:all_soltools_support.dpslo Making:all_soltools_support.dpobj more_fonts deliver deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'more_fonts' delivered successfully. 47 files copied, 0 files unchanged Entering /cygdrive/i/aoo/main/extras/source/templates/wizard/styles/lang Entering
Re: Re: Dictionary en_GB - 2014-01-01 - Test version
+1. en_GB seems to work as expected. Pity we don't appear to have a history of the changes on the 'obfuscated' dictionary fork in Apache OOo to see what may have been lost by going back to the Mozilla version. On 10/01/2014 00:25, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 08/01/2014 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote: This OXT includes all English dictionaries as before, with only the en_GB updated. I was told to place an unpublished version of it and send the link to the DEV ML in order for people to test it for one week and give feedback. I insisted that Marco announced it here since he's taking over maintenance of the English dictionary we bundle with the English version of OpenOffice. Specifically, he updated the en_GB dictionary, so you should notice no difference if you use the en_US dictionary, but still please do download his new extension and test if everything works correctly and report errors. If you use the en_GB dictionary, he provided a small test file and a large test file. The small one can be found at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30674540/test_words_speller_20140108.odt as he wrote. Direct link to download his release candidate version: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/download/17669 (I tested it on my system and it works as expected) Regards, Andrea. -- Stuart Swales - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Interesting interoperability problem with formatting of date
in ooxml,there is a cache result for a formula, for example,1 in A1,2 in A2, A1+A2 in B1,then the xml will be sheetData row r=1 spans=1:2 c r=A1 v1/v /c c r=B1 fA1+A2/f v3/v /c /row row r=2 spans=1:2 c r=A2 v2/v /c /row /sheetData you can see the v3/v is the cache result in MS office,this is important to interoperability or the computing speed. this value can be use to fix such issue. but in the Biff, the formula structure is like this: Record FORMULA, BIFF5-BIFF8: Offset Size Contents 0 2 Index to row 2 2 Index to column 4 2 Index to XF record (➜5.115) 6 8 Result of the formula. See below for details. 14 2 Option flags: Bit Mask Contents 0 0001H 1 = Recalculate always 1 0002H 1 = Calculate on open 3 0008H 1 = Part of a shared formula 16 4 Not used 20 var. Formula data (RPN token array, ➜3) the '6 8 Result of the formula. See below for details.' can be used to fix this issue? 1. compare the result by oo and the cache value of MS office. 2. set the value by MS/OO the above is just by suggestion. 2014/1/11 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:07:10 +0100 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/10/14 5:39 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I received a xls document with some date values, date related functions and formatting and noticed an interesting interoperability problem. For example: Cell Value FormatVisible Value A1 01/01/2014 MM/DD/YY 01/01/2014 A2 =DAY(A1) DD31 Excel shows the value 1 and the user expected the same value in OpenOffice but we show 31. The reason can be explained by looking in the help of the DAY function in Excel and OpenOffice (see below) The problem is the different reference date and counting. The serial number 1 in Excel is 01/01/1900. In OpenOffice we count from 0 and serial number 1 in AOO is related to 12/31/1899 because the reference date in AOO is 12/30/1899. If cell A2 would be formatted as number everything would be fine. But formatted as date it takes the integer value 1 as offset to our reference date, means 12/30/1899 + 1 day = 12/31/1899 = 31. So this means it is wrong or better misleading by design. I am not sure if this can be fixed or should be fixed. Any opinions? OpenForumula (the spreadsheet formula part of ODF 1.2) says: -- 6.10.5 DAY Summary: Returns the day from a date. Syntax: DAY( DateParam Date ) Returns: Number Constraints: None Semantics: Returns the day portion of a date. -- So DAY returns a number. I hope we all agree that this number is 1, in your example, and cannot be anything else. Then the question is how we convert from numbers to dates. This is implementation-defined. Even totally within Excel it is inconsistent because Excel on the Mac uses a different base date (1/1/1904) than Excel on Windows. And as you point out OpenOffice uses a different reference date. So in practice the implicit conversion from numbers to dates is a non-portable construct. A smart spreadsheet application would warn the user whenever they tried to do this kind of conversion. The preferred technique is to use the DATE() function to explicitly convert from integers to a date value. This is portable. the problem is that most users probably don't care about this from their end users perspective and will simply complain :-( Juergen Regards, -Rob Juergen OpenOffice Help ### DAY Returns the day of given date value. The day is returned as an integer between 1 and 31. You can also enter a negative date/time value. Syntax DAY(Number) Number, as a time value, is a decimal, for which the day is to be returned. Examples DAY(1) returns 31 (since OpenOffice starts counting at zero from December 30, 1899) DAY(NOW()) returns the current day. =DAY(C4) returns 5 if you enter 1901-08-05 in cell C4 (the date value might get formatted differently after you press Enter). ### Excel Help ### DAY Show AllShow All Returns the day of a date, represented by a serial number. The day is given as an integer ranging from 1 to 31. Syntax DAY(serial_number) Serial_number is the date of the day you are trying to find. Dates should be entered by using the DATE function, or as results of other formulas or functions. For example, use DATE(2008,5,23) for the 23rd day of May, 2008. Problems can occur if dates are entered as text. Remarks Microsoft Excel stores dates as sequential serial numbers so they can be used in calculations. By default, January 1, 1900 is serial
Update the dead hyperlink in openoffice.org?
hi, when I read the wiki of openoffice.org, found some of the links are dead now. for example: in https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/JavaEclipseTuto the link of Now click on the *Add* Button on the upper right corner and paste this *http://drake79.users.sourceforge.net/ooeclipse/site/ http://drake79.users.sourceforge.net/ooeclipse/site/* . this link is dead now. such issue is a very bad experience for a beginner or a volunteer. at a regular interval,Aoo should use a tool to scan the website,and update the dead link to a valid one. -- *mailto: *aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com https://google.com/profiles https://google.com/profiles
Re: AOO with database MariaDB (2)
it would be useful to find out why the JDBC driver isn't working well... Yes, it would be. Thanks for effort. Regards, Wlada 2014/1/10 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com 2014/1/7 Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com Juregen, Can you translate in short version what kind the problem has Kunce? I am interesting for MariaDB too. Thanks in advance, Wlada Well, I'm not Juergen, but here's what I got from Google translate (not guaranteed for accuracy of course!) -- it would be useful to find out why the JDBC driver isn't working well... === translation I use Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 ( AOO401m5 (Build : 9714 ) - Rev. 1524958 ) with MariaDB on openSUSE 13.1 with processor AMD Athlon II X2 2.9 GHz. (Processor, memory, hard disk was changed with the Ugrade NOT ) - the JDBC driver is far too slow , so that is absolutely no work possible -so the driver aoo -my- SDBC -1.2 -0- linux_x86 - 64.oxt is used - the MariaDB has tables with m- to-n relations - to a form with sub - forms is used (SUB / * / SUB - forms) , which was originally created with OOo 1.0.5 and last with OOo 3.2 (openSUSE 11.3) without any problems was in use , the connection between the forms done with SQL queries (now AOO 4.0.1 WRONG: openSUSE 11.3 - CORRECT: openSUSE 13.1) - with AOO I now have the following problems 1) Form / Writer / Database When I click within the database in a field and there the search start then I get an error message if the search word is only an entry after the 40th Entry is ( for example, the 1000th entry). When I click before the search on the button Go to the end ( the database records) and then start the search , then no error message is displayed in the search - ie the search is successful (even when , for example, 1000 entry . ) . 2) Form / Writer / Database I have integrated check boxes. They are set to default state is not selected ( NULL ). Here it is impossible to deselect this , and to 0 (FALSE ) to put (NOT NULL ) , function NULL and TRUE ( 1 ). A switching of the marking field on only two values brings no improvement. MariaDB The field corresponds to a BIT. , the old fields in the database that are set to FALSE , are displayed correctly , and I change the values to the console directly into the Datenbak , then the display is in the form correct. too, a renewal of the marking field ( check box of AOO 4.0.1 ) brought no improvement . 3) Form / Writer / Database when a form ( with SUB- forms) ( 75kB ) and a Calc file (. ods) are open from 360kb and I another Calc file (. ods) of 1.1 MB open , then take the opening 25 seconds. Here OOo 3.2 was faster. When I push in the 1.1 MB file Ctrl F , then it takes 5 seconds before the search window is open . In OOo 3.2 , this window was there immediately. 4) macro The functioning Basic query under OOo 3.2 ResultSet.getDouble ( 1) now houses AOO 4.0.1 an incorrect result - it lacks the decimal places. I read these values now with ResultSet.getString (1 ) and convert it with CDbl () in a Double value , so my macros continue to work. Regards / Sincerely signed Stefan = 2014/1/7 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com Hi Stefan, the env to reproduce this error is more complex and I am no database expert. In general I recommend that you ask and describe your problem on the German user list (user...@openoffice.apache.org) where you can write in German and people understand you. Die Umgebung um den Fehler zu reproduzieren ist etwas komplexer und ich bin selber kein Datenbankexperte. Generell würde ich Dir empfehlen noch einmal auf der deutschen User Liste nachzufragen wo deutsch kommuniziert wird und die Leute dich verstehen. Juergen On 1/6/14 2:52 PM, Kunze wrote: erster Absatz überarbeitet Hallo, I have slowly time and my english is bad. Thats why I write german to this mail-address. Ich nutze Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (AOO401m5(Build:9714) - Rev. 1524958) mit MariaDB unter openSUSE 13.1 mit Prozessor AMD Athlon II X2 2,9GHz. (Prozessor, Speicher, Festplatte wurden mit dem Ugrade NICHT geändert) -der JDBC-Treiber ist viel zu langsam, damit ist absolut kein arbeiten möglich -deshalb wird der Treiber aoo-my-sdbc-1.2-0-linux_x86-64.oxt genutzt -die MariaDB hat Tabellen mit m-zu-n Beziehungen -dazu wird ein Formular mit SUB-Formularen (SUB/*/SUB-Formulare) genutzt, welches ursprünglich mit OOo-1.0.5 erstellt und zuletzt mit OOo-3.2 (openSUSE 11.3) absolut problemlos im Einsatz war, die Verbindung zwischen den Formularen erfolgt mit SQL-Abfragen (jetzt AOO 4.0.1, FALSCH: openSUSE 11.3 - RICHTIG: openSUSE 13.1) -mit AOO habe ich jetzt folgende Probleme 1) Formular/Writer/Datenbank Wenn ich innerhalb der Datenbank in ein Feld klicke und dort die Suche
