Re: [INFO] Unofficial presentation of the AOO and Educoo projects
On 2/3/14 8:38 PM, Guy Waterval wrote: Hi all, I knew this first journey into the world of MS users would be difficult, particularly in my area, but I wouldn't expect a so bad result. The presentation is canceled for a lack of participants. I was informed of the situation very late, a few days before the deadline for registration. I tried myself to recruit people in emergency, but in four days, it was too short to inverse the tendance. Note that this situation is not representative and has not to be generalized. I will now try another method, without going through official channels but contact directly users myself and organize private and free information meetups to attempt to create a small users basis, because I've observed that most MS users are not against OpenOffice in itself, but seem to be more afraid about questions as changes, lack of support, to be isolated, etc. So, in my area, it seems there is a need to have first an intermediate layer of experienced users, perhaps organized in an association, between the project and a potential basis of users. So, I will try this way. advocating OpenOffice against Ms Office is indeed no easy job and yes the change of a comfortable work environment to a new one is not easy for many users who simply want to do their job without bigger preferences to one or the other program. Good luck. Juergen A+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About openxml handling code
Hi,
we had issue 123723 [1], solved in revision 1560326 regarding certain
token IDs used in module oox and module writerfilter.
I am not sure, if the fix would be relevant to want you have observed.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123723
Best regards, Oliver.
On 03.02.2014 18:54, Mayur wrote:
Found something interesting. Writer seems to reject any graphics in OOXML
documents - even VML ones. But there does seem to be code to support it.
Only, if a couple of tiny glitches were fixed, possibly Writer will start
showing VML shapes (at least). That'd work for all the 2007 MS word
documents, as well as for some 2010 documents which would have the vml data
in their mc:Alternativecontent tags. Here're the problems:
i. A function getNamespace( ) in
oox/source/shape/ShapeContextHandler.cxx always returned 0. The problem
seems to be a
rather strange looking definition of the NMSP_MASK constant in
oox/source/token/namespaces.hxx.tail. It says there:
*const sal_int32 TOKEN_MASK* = static_castsal_int32* ( (1
16) - 1 ); *
* const sal_Int32 NMSP_MASK = static_cast sal_Int32 (
SAL_MAX_INT16 ~TOKEN_MASK );*
Why SAL_MAX_INT16? That would translate into (for windows)
* TOKEN_MASK = static_castlong(0x); // 65535*
*and NMSP_MASK = static_castlong(0x7FFF ~TOKEN_MASK). //
which is 0x7FFF 0x = 0.*
And
Where as really, we should be looking for is the namespace value
which is in the higher two bytes. i.e. the following change fixes it.
*const sal_Int32 NMSP_MASK = static_cast sal_Int32 (
SAL_MAX_INT32 ~TOKEN_MASK );*
That should set NMSP_MASK to the required 0x to obtain the
higher two bytes.
To my mind, this sort of compactness isn't called for. Maybe, we
could have simply used a compact struct to store namespace and tag.
ii. In oox/source/vml/vmldrawingfragment.cxx, there's a switch in the
function onCreateContext that says:
case VMLDRAWING_WORD:
if ( isRootElement() ) {... }
Is this so that whenever a vml file is received as a separate
document fragment, only then we create a shape context? Why not for the
inline (v:rect or other) objects? I tried removing the check, and instead
checking simply if nElement is a VML, then vml drawings were suddenly
visible in writer.
Is this a valid fix?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:
On 28.01.2014 13:47, Mayur wrote:
Hi,
I am very new to the OpenOffice code, and need some help understanding the
open-xml handling code. Could someone please answer the following
questions?
i. There seem to be two distinct pieces of code that do open-xml parsing
in different ways. There's one part in writerfilter that has some
generated code (xslt based) that provides factories and classes for
creating different object types. And then, for sc and sd, all of the
parsing code is in the oox module and seems to be hand-written. Why is
that? Are there plans to move the parsing code to a common module?
(perhaps
oox ...)
Re why: OOXML import has been developed while OpenOffice was maintained by
Sun, later Oracle. There where at least three development teams involved
(for Writer, Calc, Draw/Impress). Sometimes they did not communicate with
each other as well as they should have. Having different modules is one of
the results. But, as far as I know, writerfilter has some calls into oox
for shared functionality.
Re future plans: Some of us are thinking about improving the OOXML
support. Consolidation of the code base into one module is a long term
goal.
ii. Probably a related question - why are drawing-ml shapes and pictures
not supported in sw, while they are supported in sc and sd? The parsing
code seems to be there. The tag wps:wsp has very little delta with the
p:sp
tag. Is this in works?
Well, see my above comments.
And, parsing OOXML is the easy part, importing the data into the
application model is the hard part. Calc and Impress use the same model
for representing graphical objects, Writer has its own.
If you are interested in OOXML import/export then maybe we can work
together on improving it?
Regards,
Andre
thanks,
mayur
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is comprised of
Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard
Re: instsetoo_native need(s) to be rebuilt...
Hi Apostolos, On 01.02.2014 14:43, Απόστολος Συρόπουλος wrote: I have compiled all OpenOffice modules and now building stops as follows: ERROR: ERROR: unopkg sync --verbose -env:UNO_JAVA_JFW_ENV_JREHOME=true 21 | failed! in function: register_extensions [...] I have no idea what is wrong and moreover where should I look to find the problem. Any ideas and/or suggestions would be really apprecieted! This might also be a re-occurrence of a missing library or symbol. This can hopefully be caught by my patch suggested in http://markmail.org/message/lcctwzqrinjgwa7e by enable it also for non-debug mode until this is solved. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
review requested: [Bug 124155] Read Error, Internal import error with particular.xls : [Attachment 82490] patch to change visibility of function ScFilterCreate
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann o...@apache.org has asked h...@apache.org h...@apache.org for review: Bug 124155: Read Error, Internal import error with particular.xls https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124155 Attachment 82490: patch to change visibility of function ScFilterCreate https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=82490action=edit --- Additional Comments from Oliver-Rainer Wittmann o...@apache.org patch to solve this issue. @Herbert: Please take over and check, if further side effects were created by changes made for 123964. Thx in advance - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 64bit Mac crashs often after start
Hi there, Just to make sure that the filed bug is not overseen, as it only occurs on the new 64-bit MacOSX AOO: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124170. It also comes with the MacOSX diagnostic file for inspection of the reported bug. ---rony On 30.01.2014 18:35, Rony wrote: Hi Herbert, could you please point out where the MacOSX crash reports are located? Experiencing an exception in the awt event thread when loading a scripting engine and running a macro via the Java based scripting engine (latest, 64 bit AOO on MacOSX). Would like to submit it with a bug report. TIA Rony G. Flatscher (mobil/e) Am 29.01.2014 um 08:40 schrieb Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org: Hi Raphael, On 01/29/2014 08:07 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: I recognise that the OSX 4.0.1 often crachs after start. It is not realy reproducible, but I have the feeling that there is something wrong. I just whant to let you know, so we can keep a eye on this. System: 10.9 Mavericks. I will try to get more information about this behavior The Mac crash reporter will have some interesting details about this. Please copy and paste such a report into a text document and attach it to a new issue. I also suggest to experiment with enabling/disabling extensions, the update checker and with the java settings. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: isn't comprised of
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:07:25 -0500 E. Ward eward...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard Even simpler is to say OpenOffice comprises six personal productivity applications -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary ???
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I noticed that since last week I got always an extensions update for the bundled English dictionary when I work/test with a new profile. This is expected and it has been discussed extensively on both the l10n and dev list. The best way to catch up is probably that you look for messages from Marco Pinto. We bundle 2 dictionaries which seems to be English. I am not sure what the difference is or which one should be used. I am wondering why it is different and why nl and ru doesn't bundle the same as en*, de or it. One is a dictionary for multiple variants of English (en-US, en-GB...); the other one is for en-US only. [ language=en.* || language=de || language=it ] 3c3f841f5d40403bcc4d6bb685a38160 http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/17102/1/dict-en.oxt/download dict-en.oxt This needs to be updated, it's documented here https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127 and I will take care of it later this week. But more confusing do I find the fact that the notified update download a dictionary with the name dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt. What is this for an dictionary and is it correct that it uses the same extension identifier than dict-en.oxt. Why is the name part of the file name? It is correct, since the extension was reassigned to Marco after he volunteered to make new releases. The fact that the OXT is named dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt and not simply dict-en.oxt should indeed be fixed, it doesn't harm but it's easier to be consistent. If this is the intended new one I would suggest to update the existing dict-en.oxt asap that we bundle this new one. Or if not use a different extension identifier. Identifier must be the same, see above. But indeed let's simplify the name in Marco's next release. We should avoid that we bundle an old dictionary with 4.1 and all new users get directly an extension update. Obviously. Again, this has been discussed at length on the l10n and dev lists. Any further information from people who knows more about the details? I think I summarized most of the discussion. But looking for messages from Marco in the l10n and dev archives will bring you up-to-date. And the next actions would be: 1) Marco releases his next update during this week (or at his earliest convenience) and names it simply dict-en.oxt 2) I address https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127 bundling his new version. 3) We keep the dictionary frozen until 4.1 is released, publishing new versions only some weeks after release. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reg: Completion of Set ups
Hi Dhananjayan, I am a PhD researcher from Brazil. I am studying the difficulties faced by newcomers to Open Source project. As I am following some dev lists, I noticed that you sent this email to AOO list interested in contributing. I am really interest in understanding your motives and also what did you do after this email. My objective is to check the problems you faced and to propose solutions on how to help newcomers overcoming these problems. Are you OK to have a quick chat (textual) with me via hangout or skype, so I can understand how was your experience? Thanks in advance, Igor Fabio Steinmacher PhD Candidate - Computer Science @ IME/USP Faculty in Dept. of Computing at Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Dhananjayan Santhanakrishnan sdj...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I have completed all the config's required for open office. How to proceed? What about tasks?? Regards, Dhananjayan.
Re: isn't comprised of
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:07:25 -0500 E. Ward eward...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard Even simpler is to say OpenOffice comprises six personal productivity applications The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd edition, gives the passive used comprised of, meaning to be composed of, to consist of, attested back to 1874. So there is nothing incorrect about the current wording. To my ears it sounds more natural than your version. I wonder if this is an American/British usage difference? Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary ???
Hello Jrgen, This is what the update is about: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice " English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form suitable for inclusion as individual extension. These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of Apache OpenOffice. It includes: - en_AU (Australian) - en_CA (Canadian) - en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01) - en_US (American) - en_ZA (South African) This is a locally hosted copy of the English dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support extension. - See more at: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form suitable for inclusion as individual extension. These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of Apache OpenOffice. It includes: - en_AU (Australian) - en_CA (Canadian) - en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01) - en_US (American) - en_ZA (South African) This is a locally hosted copy of the English dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support extension. - See more at: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form suitable for inclusion as individual extension. These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of Apache OpenOffice. It includes: - en_AU (Australian) - en_CA (Canadian) - en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01) - en_US (American) - en_ZA (South African) This is a locally hosted copy of the English dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support extension. - See more at: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form suitable for inclusion as individual extension. These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of Apache OpenOffice. It includes: - en_AU (Australian) - en_CA (Canadian) - en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01) - en_US (American) - en_ZA (South African) This is a locally hosted copy of the English dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support extension. - See more at: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form suitable for inclusion as individual extension. These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of Apache OpenOffice. It includes: - en_AU (Australian) - en_CA (Canadian) - en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01) - en_US (American) - en_ZA (South African) This is a locally hosted copy of the English dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support extension. - See more at: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form suitable for inclusion as individual extension. These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of Apache OpenOffice. It includes: - en_AU (Australian) - en_CA (Canadian) - en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01) - en_US (American) - en_ZA (South African) This is a locally hosted copy of the English dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new ligature and
Re: isn't comprised of
Hi, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:07:25 -0500 E. Ward eward...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard Even simpler is to say OpenOffice comprises six personal productivity applications The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd edition, gives the passive used comprised of, meaning to be composed of, to consist of, attested back to 1874. So there is nothing incorrect about the current wording. To my ears it sounds more natural than your version. I wonder if this is an American/British usage difference? Quite possibly. Or even more, a kind of temporal/regional thing: usage patterns, like pronunciation, change as this or that population gains linguistic dominance (i.e., we do what they do speechwise, even if it ain't the Queen's English, or even Twain's). But to comprise. I agree with Rob. And that has nothing to do with my having a phd in the field. Grammar rules are conventions that serve to clarify logical speech operations so that communication is made easier. If communication is actually not made easier, then But what I usually do, in much of my own writing, is use compose. The only rule I like to follow with comprise is that it refers to the totality of the objects making up the whole, thus, n comprises y, and that should mean that all of y are the n components. But even here, there are slippages, and there is no reason that identities need stay fixed. But along these lines, the only logical insistence one might have in grammar is to follow the math: are is plural, none takes the singular, as do neither and either and others that logically refer to singles not plurals, if read differently. (I shut my eyes to who/whom violations. I have not given up hope on this, but do despair. People, it's not that hard. Just put it into Latin and think: accusitive, dative; you know, it's easy! Much easier than using that Attic Greek you avoided memorizing in school.) Salve, Lovis PS, Louis Menand's take down of grammarians protesting too much is worth the read, as is, of course Twain's. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Louis Suárez-Potts +1.416.625.3843 (-0500) Twitter: @luispo Skype: louisiam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [INFO] Unofficial presentation of the AOO and Educoo projects
Hi Jürgen, 2014-02-04 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: advocating OpenOffice against Ms Office is indeed no easy job and yes the change of a comfortable work environment to a new one is not easy for many users who simply want to do their job without bigger preferences to one or the other program. Good luck. Thanks for your answer. To be honest I never present AOO against MS Office, but as a complement to MS Office, to open certain files or for a use at home, or with some extensions, etc. I don't will push people to a radical change, especially in sensible areas where they could have too many interoperability issues or in case I know there is locally no structure able to support such a change. But of course, there are areas in a company where AOO can be viewed as an excellent alternative, without inconvenients, and in this case, it's certainly a good choice to suggest. For instance, I know a MS Office user (a teacher) who uses only AOO for translations with the Anaphraseus extension. He will perhaps never change totally for AOO, and I have no problem with that. But as we have in CH a lot of users with daily translation works between French English German and Italian, I know he has made a demand (no response up to now) for a systematic installation of AOO+Anaphraseus near MS Office on all the PCs in the Swiss Administration. The alternative Wordfast for MS Office is certainly more sophisticated but costs 400 euros pro licence. Another advantage of this soft approach is to give people an opportunity to discover AOO without stress and use it at home if they will. Also a possible way to enlarge the basis of the users. For schools the situation is a little different, OOo4Kids is clearly the solution for the primary school and AOO the best free solution for students after 12 years. In this area a more combative attitude is suitable, I find. A+ -- gw
Re: [INFO] Unofficial presentation of the AOO and Educoo projects
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/3/14 8:38 PM, Guy Waterval wrote: Hi all, I knew this first journey into the world of MS users would be difficult, particularly in my area, but I wouldn't expect a so bad result. The presentation is canceled for a lack of participants. I was informed of the situation very late, a few days before the deadline for registration. I tried myself to recruit people in emergency, but in four days, it was too short to inverse the tendance. Note that this situation is not representative and has not to be generalized. I will now try another method, without going through official channels but contact directly users myself and organize private and free information meetups to attempt to create a small users basis, because I've observed that most MS users are not against OpenOffice in itself, but seem to be more afraid about questions as changes, lack of support, to be isolated, etc. So, in my area, it seems there is a need to have first an intermediate layer of experienced users, perhaps organized in an association, between the project and a potential basis of users. So, I will try this way. advocating OpenOffice against Ms Office is indeed no easy job and yes the change of a comfortable work environment to a new one is not easy for many users who simply want to do their job without bigger preferences to one or the other program. Good luck. From a practical perspective it is important to realize that with most changes their are winners and losers. Some people hate change, some love it. If a company is moving from Microsoft to OpenOffice, who are the natural winners and losers: Winners: Those who benefit from cost savings, so the owners of the company. Those whose departments now have extra money to spend on other things than MS Office. Those looking for the opportunity to advance their careers by driving cost-saving changes. Those who want to demonstrate leadership by transforming the company's IT department. Losers: Those who fear change, disruption. Those who identify themselves and their competency as Microsoft Office exports and fear that this career advantage will be lost. The trick to adopting OpenOffice is finding your natural allies in the organization and working with them to address the concerns of those who fear they will lose by the change. In the end it is possible for everyone to win. But you need a plan for addressing the constituencies who will naturally fear and resist change. Regards, -Rob Juergen A+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
I USED THE 4.0.0 version for several months and it was a good experience. Some days ago appears a dialog window I cannot close it, and I cannot save anymore the hold files with a new name, I cannot print in PDF FORMAT any new documents. Sorry but I have to solve the problem very fast I do not have any other possibility: I have to cancel OPEN OFFICE because it does not work properly. I installed the new verson 4.0.1 and it is like before !! I cannot use OPEN OFFICE ANY MORE IF YOU DO NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I ALSO TRYED TO CONTACT THE FORUM i foud some other user with the same problem !! Could you please help me to solve the problem in the faster way as soon as possible? BEST REGARDS ROBERTO BERNARDIN MACHMER INTERNATIONAL CONSULTING UHLANDSTRASSE 134 10717 BERLIN -- GERMANY - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: isn't comprised of
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:07:25 -0500 E. Ward eward...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard Even simpler is to say OpenOffice comprises six personal productivity applications The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd edition, gives the passive used comprised of, meaning to be composed of, to consist of, attested back to 1874. So there is nothing incorrect about the current wording. To my ears it sounds more natural than your version. I wonder if this is an American/British usage difference? Quite possibly. Or even more, a kind of temporal/regional thing: usage patterns, like pronunciation, change as this or that population gains linguistic dominance (i.e., we do what they do speechwise, even if it ain't the Queen's English, or even Twain's). But to comprise. I agree with Rob. And that has nothing to do with my having a phd in the field. Grammar rules are conventions that serve to clarify logical speech operations so that communication is made easier. If communication is actually not made easier, then But what I usually do, in much of my own writing, is use compose. The only rule I like to follow with comprise is that it refers to the totality of the objects making up the whole, thus, n comprises y, and that should mean that all of y are the n components. But even here, there are slippages, and there is no reason that identities need stay fixed. But along these lines, the only logical insistence one might have in grammar is to follow the math: are is plural, none takes the singular, as do neither and either and others that logically refer to singles not plurals, if read differently. (I shut my eyes to who/whom violations. I have not given up hope on this, but do despair. People, it's not that hard. Just put it into Latin and think: accusitive, dative; you know, it's easy! Much easier than using that Attic Greek you avoided memorizing in school.) Salve, Lovis PS, Louis Menand's take down of grammarians protesting too much is worth the read, as is, of course Twain's. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org One could argue that comprise has more general utility than compose, in that one commonly hears A is composed of B but not B composes A (unless B stands for Beethoven). Whereas A comprises B does sort of imply B is comprised of A, assuming is comprised of is valid usage at all. But yeah, I'd've used is composed of too. Or simply includes. Don
RE: Compilinng the gcc_solaris_intel bridge
Hello Herbert, [...] + // preserve potential 128bit stack alignment I'm not sure whether the SPARCv9 ABI spec is relevant for your build environment, but it mentions this 16byte stack alignment in [1] as something new. Maybe the other changes may be relevant too to solve the bridge problems. Well, as I said my patch is based on the code found in the corresponding gcc3-linux-intel file. Obviously, this has nothing to do with SPARC machines, but then again it might be some kind of leftover. In particular I'd also suggest to mark the ecx register as clobbered like we do in [2] by changing the line: : eax, edx to : eax, edx, ecx I have changed this and it still compiles the testtools. A.S. -- Apostols Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
You need to delete the folder org.openoffice.script.savedState. It is in the Saved Application State folder in your User/Library. See this post on the user forum for detailed instructions: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=55755#p244931 On 2013-12-13, 11:07 AM Roberto Bernardin wrote concerning Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website: I USED THE 4.0.0 version for several months and it was a good experience. Some days ago appears a dialog window I cannot close it, and I cannot save anymore the hold files with a new name, I cannot print in PDF FORMAT any new documents. Sorry but I have to solve the problem very fast I do not have any other possibility: I have to cancel OPEN OFFICE because it does not work properly. I installed the new verson 4.0.1 and it is like before !! I cannot use OPEN OFFICE ANY MORE IF YOU DO NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I ALSO TRYED TO CONTACT THE FORUM i foud some other user with the same problem !! Could you please help me to solve the problem in the faster way as soon as possible? -- As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at us...@openoffice.apache.org - replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query.To subscribe Apache OpenOffice mailing lists go to http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html For user support you can also use The OpenOffice.org Community Forum http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto Bernardin wrote: I USED THE 4.0.0 version for several months and it was a good experience. Some days ago appears a dialog window I cannot close it, and I cannot save anymore the hold files with a new name, I cannot print in PDF FORMAT any new documents. Sorry but I have to solve the problem very fast I do not have any other possibility: I have to cancel OPEN OFFICE because it does not work properly. I installed the new verson 4.0.1 and it is like before !! I cannot use OPEN OFFICE ANY MORE IF YOU DO NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I ALSO TRYED TO CONTACT THE FORUM i foud some other user with the same problem !! Could you please help me to solve the problem in the faster way as soon as possible? BEST REGARDS ROBERTO BERNARDIN MACHMER INTERNATIONAL CONSULTING UHLANDSTRASSE 134 10717 BERLIN -- GERMANY Roberto; Without knowing the wording of the dialog window and the Operating system and version that you are using it is difficult to precisely suggest the best course of action. However this sounds very much like a known issue with Apple's OS X. If you are using a mac then the following may help. You need to delete the file org.openoffice.script.savedState. It is in the Saved Application State folder in your User/Library. See this post on the user forum for detailed instructions: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=55755#p244931 If the above does not help please get back to the list with the contents of the dialog box and the operating system and version that you are using. As you are not subscribed to this list I have cc'd your email address as a courtesy. Please direct all communications to the list and not my e-mail address. Regards Keith -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS8RXhAAoJEH0fu5UhGmBC9K0IAI/ifrdrUMvti+Rt8gRvQtZO nj4XInGd8EJUf+4QwdvEDp7Eo7yrKDsea5otcbMbnvYfnyIhULzwDqXU7LK5eHky rMz5CPJ1rqy6iRZuNhieX7tCKt1UJlb94NTShM74FQ+ht4k5zFVBkgoJcY4eUzv/ I2NM7LaZKieeOkP8EsnxY477CmZqM/2k7FnGTLaIPerlZ6tw+rYUIH2MduBPpnmM D5kI29//Ge8VtuHpiugOUz/LlePmLqL2Hz1VP6wYgUH7AGAxmVUC8eJOhVnKfABo QSIWmzmkZRfjmnOwZE7/XlTJ/W5LbnHY83tfxA6xc3ei86uFa0iFqWWVt72b+3s= =d/K+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Solution for Mozilla address book?
Hi all, in AOO 4.0.1 I can use my Seamonkey address book with sdbc:address:mozilla:. That seems to be removed in AOO4.1. How can I now get my address book? I work on Windows 7. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Introducing myself
Hello I am Reem El-Naggar, from Egypt. I am interested in contributing to Openoffice in any possible way. Since I actually use it a lot and it helps me with my assignments for college. I am not a programmer and I am not familiar with it, But I read on the web site that even if you are not a programmer you can help in any other ways, so I will be glad if I can help.
Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
How can I contact in reference to download problems? It is telling me that I need Java Runtime Environment but I am downloading on a MAC. HELP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Hi You need the 32 bit version of Java. You have probabily the 64 bit on it. Greetings Raphael Am 04/02/14 19:19, schrieb Terri Adams: How can I contact in reference to download problems? It is telling me that I need Java Runtime Environment but I am downloading on a MAC. HELP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Maybe you try to use this link it is open office download for mac http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:23 PM, Terri Adams terrija...@gmail.com wrote: How can I contact in reference to download problems? It is telling me that I need Java Runtime Environment but I am downloading on a MAC. HELP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Introducing myself
Reem Elnagar wrote: Hello I am Reem El-Naggar, from Egypt. I am interested in contributing to Openoffice in any possible way. Since I actually use it a lot and it helps me with my assignments for college. I am not a programmer and I am not familiar with it, But I read on the web site that even if you are not a programmer you can help in any other ways, so I will be glad if I can help. Hi, can you help with the translation into Arabic? We would like to release the next version in Arabic too, but some work is still needed (we are at 93%). Please see https://translate.apache.org/ar/aoo40/ for the current status and read https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide to know how to request an account for helping with translations. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Fwd: Ten Years of Google Summer of Code - GSoC 2014 is coming
Google Summer of Code 2014 is coming and we need some project proposals by 10 February. These are needed for Apache to apply as a mentor organization (it will be an Apache-wide application as usual). Relevant excerpts from a message by Uli, who coordinates the Apache participation in GSoC: --- If you want to participate with your project you have to do the following things by no later than 2014-02-10 19:00 UTC - understand what it means to be a mentor http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html - record your project ideas. Just create issues in JIRA [use the COMDEV JIRA project], label them with gsoc2014, and they will show up at http://s.apache.org/gsoc2014ideas Please be as specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the programming language, the tools and skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They are supposed to learn what's required before the program starts. ... http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html contains some additional information. - subscribe to ment...@community.apache.org ... Use a recognized address when subscribing (@apache.org or one of your alias addresses on record). --- An additional comment: please only propose projects that you would be able to complete personally! This is not a wishlist: you need to outline the skills a student must have and be able to mentor a student. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: EXTERNAL: Re: OO 4.01 Compiled for Solaris 11 x86 Runtime Memory Fault
Herbert, Raymond and I have been using the dbx debugger feature of Solaris Studio 12.3 with an equivalent throw/catch feature (intercept/whocatches) and have found that the cases where we tried to intercept exceptions, they were unhandled. This includes inside the SidebarController where we have tracked the problem origination. We have stepped through the code multiple times and while we have found that the problem originates in the SidebarController, we cannot explain how it happens. Using the debug tool we see that the SidebarController constructor doesn't complete because the segmentation fault occurs when the notifyContextChangeEvent is called a second time. The first time it is called it is located in the addContextChangeEventListener where it appears to work as expected, even the acquire function appears to call the ContextChangeEventMultiplexer without any errors. The following lines are what we see as we step-by-step through the execution of the SidebarController.cxx constructor when we select the Spreadsheet or the Text Document. The first time the notifyContextChangeEvent is called: SidebarController: Line 147 - addContextChangeEventListener is called Reference.h: Line 359 - XInterface operator - is called Reference.h: Line 217 - castFromXInterface is called Reference.hxx: Line 134 - castToXInterface is called Reference.h: Line 232 - function castToXInterface Reference.hxx: Line 135 - if(_pInterface) Reference.hxx: Line 136 - _pInterface-acquire(); compbase4.hxx: Line 70- WeakComponentHelperBase::acquire prototype implbase.hxx: Line 236 - WeakObject::acquire definition - ContextChangeEventMultiplexer receives and processes event. - In ContextChangeEventMultiplexer addContextChangeEventListener adds and calls the notifyContextChangeEvent - SidebarController::notifyContextChangeEvent: Line 257 is called. The rEvent associated with the notifyContextChangeEvent is a valid address - The rEvent STRUCT contains the application name and context name references Context.cxx: Line 51 - msContext(rsContext) ustring.hxx: Line103 - pData = str.pData - Processing continues as normal from this point till line 168 of SidebarController.cxx The second time the notifyContextChangeEvent is called: SidebarController: Line 168 - the xWeakController(this) is called Reference.hxx: Line 134 - castToXInterface is called Reference.h: Line 232 - function castToXInterface Reference.hxx: Line 135 - if(_pInterface) Reference.hxx: Line 136 - _pInterface-acquire(); (Why does this not behave like the first call above? Should there be a call to WeakComponentHelperBase::acuire? The next step appears to skip all these procedures.) SidebarController::notifyContextChangeEvent: Line 257 is called, the rEvent is pointing to a reference that cannot be accessed. - The dbx dump has an rEvent = STRUCT - The dbx print of the rEvent says that it is referenced through a nil pointer Context.cxx: Line 51 - msContext(rsContext) ustring.hxx: Line103 - pData = str.pData - Accessing the pData in the string has been corrupted and causes the following Segmentation Fault: - Signal SEGV(no mapping at the fault address) in rtl::OUString::OUString at line 103 in file ustring.hxx We are trying to do our due diligence on this problem and we have been investigating it as best we can, but we are lacking in knowledge that the community can provide, which is why we are seeking help. Also the errors don't seem to make sense, so we believe we are dealing with a bug. We hope we are not being an inconvenience, and we definitely appreciate the help. We are investigating alternatives, but would really like to get this to work. Our current applications use OpenOffice extensively. Since we had to move to Solaris 11, we are forced to get this working or find another solution, which we'd rather not pursue. Hopefully you or a member of the community can help us make some headway. We'd appreciate it. Thanks. David Meffe -Original Message- From: Herbert Duerr [mailto:h...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 5:46 AM To: a...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: OO 4.01 Compiled for Solaris 11 x86 Runtime Memory Fault Hi Raymond, most regulars are traveling (and are meeting this weekend at FOSDEM in Brussels). I already recommended the try to find whether any exceptions are thrown (and caught away) during the steps you already debugged. In gdb I'd use the command catch throw to find the throwing code. Maybe there is similar facility in Solaris Studio? Herbert On 31.01.2014 20:27, Steele, Raymond wrote: Anyone out there? We really need to get this working, but are having a difficult time. From: Steele, Raymond Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:11 PM To:
Re: is comprised of
This should probably be directed to the documentation project. Off hand, I would say that we could benefit from your knowledge. d...@openoffice.apache.org Although I agree that we should not purposely incorporate incorrect word use in our documents, my primary concern is that it is understood. That said: If I read this correctly, then the whole comprises the parts: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comprise These two examples are provided: The play comprises three acts and a vast installation, comprising fifty buildings The Elements of Style states : comprise means, literally, 'embrace.' A zoo comprises mammals, reptiles and birds (because it 'embraces' or 'includes' them. See here: https://suite101.com/a/how-to-use-the-word-comprise-a95355 If we finally get to your primary concern, which is comprised of, the best I could find is probably best summarized by the Oxford, which stated that the usage is strongly opposed by some and unobjectionable by many. My opinion is that my knowledge of grammar and word usage is poor, so, I may be writing falsehoods, but, this feels to me like comprised of is a passive statement rather than an active statement... and I generally strive to use active voice because it just seems to read better (what ever that means). On 02/04/2014 12:04 AM, E. Ward wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: isn't comprised of
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:07:25 -0500 E. Ward eward...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard Even simpler is to say OpenOffice comprises six personal productivity applications The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd edition, gives the passive used comprised of, meaning to be composed of, to consist of, attested back to 1874. So there is nothing incorrect about the current wording. To my ears it sounds more natural than your version. I wonder if this is an American/British usage difference? Regards, -Rob The current wording comprised of sounds better to me also. But, it could be a cultural usage difference as you point out. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time, for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect. -- James Mason
Re: New SNAPSHOT available (based on r1560772)
Hello hdu and all Questions: 1. subject says 1560772 but https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds says 1560773. Which is correct? 2. Approve for FreeBSD patches a. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-webdav?revision=342617view=markup b. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-nss?revision=342426view=markup 3. Weired error in canvas due to sal. What do you think? cf. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-sal?revision=342617view=markup /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/solver/410/unxfbsdx.pro/inc/rtl/string.hxx:237:5: error: 'rtl::OString::operator const sal_Char*() const' is private /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/canvas/source/cairo/cairo_textlayout.cxx:336:40: error: within this context /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/canvas/source/cairo/cairo_textlayout.cxx: In member function 'bool cairocanvas::TextLayout::draw(cairo::SurfaceSharedPtr, OutputDevice, const Point, const com::sun::star::rendering::ViewState, const com::sun::star::rendering::RenderState) const': Best, Nakata Maho From: Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org Subject: New SNAPSHOT available (based on r1560772) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:02:34 +0100 New snapshot builds based on the feature freeze revision (according to the release plan [1]) are available at [2]. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Planning [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/ The development-snapshot CWiki page [3] has been partially updated, but since Markup was disabled [4] in the latest Confluence update the process of updating this page has become incredibly painful and will take some more time. [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds [4] http://blogs.atlassian.com/2011/11/why-we-removed-wiki-markup-editor-in-confluence-4/ I suggest to move this page into our MediaWiki instead where generated markup can be directly used. I also suggest to use a different name for these kinds of snapshots, because the buildbots provide a different of snapshot [5] that are not built for maximum compatibility. How about renaming the release-like snapshots to milestone? [5] http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#linsnap Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: is comprised of
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: This should probably be directed to the documentation project. Off hand, I would say that we could benefit from your knowledge. d...@openoffice.apache.org Although I agree that we should not purposely incorporate incorrect word use in our documents, my primary concern is that it is understood. That said: If I read this correctly, then the whole comprises the parts: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comprise These two examples are provided: The play comprises three acts and a vast installation, comprising fifty buildings The Elements of Style states : comprise means, literally, 'embrace.' A zoo comprises mammals, reptiles and birds (because it 'embraces' or 'includes' them. See here: https://suite101.com/a/how-to-use-the-word-comprise-a95355 If we finally get to your primary concern, which is comprised of, the best I could find is probably best summarized by the Oxford, which stated that the usage is strongly opposed by some and unobjectionable by many. My opinion is that my knowledge of grammar and word usage is poor, so, I may be writing falsehoods, but, this feels to me like comprised of is a passive statement rather than an active statement... and I generally strive to use active voice because it just seems to read better (what ever that means). The subject ought to be OpenOffice. In this context it would not make sense to do otherwise. So if we want to change, maybe something like Apache OpenOffice consists of... or Apache OpenOffice includes... or Apache OpenOffice is a suite of... -Rob On 02/04/2014 12:04 AM, E. Ward wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: is comprised of
Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: This should probably be directed to the documentation project. Off hand, I would say that we could benefit from your knowledge. d...@openoffice.apache.org Although I agree that we should not purposely incorporate incorrect word use in our documents, my primary concern is that it is understood. That said: If I read this correctly, then the whole comprises the parts: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comprise These two examples are provided: The play comprises three acts and a vast installation, comprising fifty buildings The Elements of Style states : comprise means, literally, 'embrace.' A zoo comprises mammals, reptiles and birds (because it 'embraces' or 'includes' them. See here: https://suite101.com/a/how-to-use-the-word-comprise-a95355 If we finally get to your primary concern, which is comprised of, the best I could find is probably best summarized by the Oxford, which stated that the usage is strongly opposed by some and unobjectionable by many. My opinion is that my knowledge of grammar and word usage is poor, so, I may be writing falsehoods, but, this feels to me like comprised of is a passive statement rather than an active statement... and I generally strive to use active voice because it just seems to read better (what ever that means). The subject ought to be OpenOffice. In this context it would not make sense to do otherwise. So if we want to change, maybe something like Apache OpenOffice consists of... or Apache OpenOffice includes... or Apache OpenOffice is a suite of... -Rob On 02/04/2014 12:04 AM, E. Ward wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Can i suggest we take this opportunity to emphasize that OO has modules not fixtures and that these can be added to? Thus, I'd suggest using includes, which leaves the door open. louis PS when I'd previously written this language for the Web, prior to John's take on it, if it was he who done it, I think I used composed. -- Louis Suárez-Potts +1.416.625.3843 (-0500) Twitter: @luispo Skype: louisiam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New SNAPSHOT available (based on r1560772)
From: Nakata Maho m...@apache.org Subject: Re: New SNAPSHOT available (based on r1560772) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:00:44 +0900 (JST) Hello hdu and all Questions: 1. subject says 1560772 but https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds says 1560773. Which is correct? 2. Approve for FreeBSD patches a. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-webdav?revision=342617view=markup correct one is following. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-webdav?revision=342631view=co b. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-nss?revision=342426view=markup 3. Weired error in canvas due to sal. What do you think? cf. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-sal?revision=342617view=markup /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/solver/410/unxfbsdx.pro/inc/rtl/string.hxx:237:5: error: 'rtl::OString::operator const sal_Char*() const' is private /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/canvas/source/cairo/cairo_textlayout.cxx:336:40: error: within this context /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/canvas/source/cairo/cairo_textlayout.cxx: In member function 'bool cairocanvas::TextLayout::draw(cairo::SurfaceSharedPtr, OutputDevice, const Point, const com::sun::star::rendering::ViewState, const com::sun::star::rendering::RenderState) const': Best, Nakata Maho From: Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org Subject: New SNAPSHOT available (based on r1560772) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:02:34 +0100 New snapshot builds based on the feature freeze revision (according to the release plan [1]) are available at [2]. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Planning [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/ The development-snapshot CWiki page [3] has been partially updated, but since Markup was disabled [4] in the latest Confluence update the process of updating this page has become incredibly painful and will take some more time. [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds [4] http://blogs.atlassian.com/2011/11/why-we-removed-wiki-markup-editor-in-confluence-4/ I suggest to move this page into our MediaWiki instead where generated markup can be directly used. I also suggest to use a different name for these kinds of snapshots, because the buildbots provide a different of snapshot [5] that are not built for maximum compatibility. How about renaming the release-like snapshots to milestone? [5] http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#linsnap Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fwd: Ten Years of Google Summer of Code - GSoC 2014 is coming
Thanks for the information! On Feb 5, 2014 4:09 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Google Summer of Code 2014 is coming and we need some project proposals by 10 February. These are needed for Apache to apply as a mentor organization (it will be an Apache-wide application as usual). Relevant excerpts from a message by Uli, who coordinates the Apache participation in GSoC: --- If you want to participate with your project you have to do the following things by no later than 2014-02-10 19:00 UTC - understand what it means to be a mentor http://community.apache.org/ guide-to-being-a-mentor.html - record your project ideas. Just create issues in JIRA [use the COMDEV JIRA project], label them with gsoc2014, and they will show up at http://s.apache.org/gsoc2014ideas Please be as specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the programming language, the tools and skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They are supposed to learn what's required before the program starts. ... http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html contains some additional information. - subscribe to ment...@community.apache.org ... Use a recognized address when subscribing (@apache.org or one of your alias addresses on record). --- An additional comment: please only propose projects that you would be able to complete personally! This is not a wishlist: you need to outline the skills a student must have and be able to mentor a student. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
build failure on trunk on MacOSX
Hi, trunk can't be built currently on MacOSX, it seems to be a problem with not found symbols and I assume it is related to the latest changes done for Linux. build breaks in main/i18npool Trace 7405/1: module.c::osl_getModuleURLFromAddress - /Users/jsc/dev/svn/aoo_trunk/main/solver/410/unxmaccx.pro/lib/libuno_cppu.dylib.3 Trace 7405/1: error: osl_getAsciiFunctionSymbol failed with dlsym(0x7fa15ac24500, component_getImplementationEnvironmentExt): symbol not found Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
FreeBSD patches (was: New SNAPSHOT available (based on r1560772))
Hi Maho, On 02/05/2014 05:24 AM, Nakata Maho wrote: Questions: 1. subject says 1560772 but https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds says 1560773. Which is correct? Strictly speaking the new SNAPSHOT tag was created in r1560773. It tagged the revision 1560772. The latest change in the trunk that was relevant for these were in revision 1560760. The ASF subversion repository shares all the projects and branches, so if you are checking out our trunk with any of the revision between the last trunk-change and the creation of its tag (i.e. 1560760..1560773) then you'll get exactly same sources. If you checked out the tag directly then the latest SNAPSHOT revision 1560773..1564650 will do, as the tag wasn't moved inbetween this revision range. 2. Approve for FreeBSD patches a. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-webdav?revision=342617view=markup The headers from ext_libraries/apr are delivered to main/solver/410/*/inc/apr/ so the change of the include directory from apr to apr-1 wouldn't work for most of our platforms. Same for apr-util and serf. Is it possible to tweak the order of include paths for FreeBSD, so that the include statements could stay the same for all platforms? correct one is following. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-webdav?revision=342631view=co I'm also not sure about this. Oliver is our expert on the Serf/Ucb integration. Oliver could you please have a look at the suggested patches above? b. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-nss?revision=342426view=markup +1, looks good to me 3. Weired error in canvas due to sal. What do you think? cf. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-sal?revision=342617view=markup /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/solver/410/unxfbsdx.pro/inc/rtl/string.hxx:237:5: error: 'rtl::OString::operator const sal_Char*() const' is private /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/canvas/source/cairo/cairo_textlayout.cxx:336:40: error: within this context /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/canvas/source/cairo/cairo_textlayout.cxx: In member function 'bool cairocanvas::TextLayout::draw(cairo::SurfaceSharedPtr, OutputDevice, const Point, const com::sun::star::rendering::ViewState, const com::sun::star::rendering::RenderState) const': Thanks for finding this! These implicit conversions are dangerous, so better use the change from http://svn.apache.org/r1564650 instead. Thanks for working on this! Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: FreeBSD patches
On 05.02.2014 08:26, Herbert Duerr wrote: Hi Maho, On 02/05/2014 05:24 AM, Nakata Maho wrote: Questions: 1. subject says 1560772 but https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds says 1560773. Which is correct? Strictly speaking the new SNAPSHOT tag was created in r1560773. It tagged the revision 1560772. The latest change in the trunk that was relevant for these were in revision 1560760. The ASF subversion repository shares all the projects and branches, so if you are checking out our trunk with any of the revision between the last trunk-change and the creation of its tag (i.e. 1560760..1560773) then you'll get exactly same sources. If you checked out the tag directly then the latest SNAPSHOT revision 1560773..1564650 will do, as the tag wasn't moved inbetween this revision range. 2. Approve for FreeBSD patches a. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-webdav?revision=342617view=markup The headers from ext_libraries/apr are delivered to main/solver/410/*/inc/apr/ so the change of the include directory from apr to apr-1 wouldn't work for most of our platforms. Same for apr-util and serf. Is it possible to tweak the order of include paths for FreeBSD, so that the include statements could stay the same for all platforms? correct one is following. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-webdav?revision=342631view=co I'm also not sure about this. Oliver is our expert on the Serf/Ucb integration. Oliver could you please have a look at the suggested patches above? These changes to the includes should also work for the other platforms. Best regards, Oliver. b. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-nss?revision=342426view=markup +1, looks good to me 3. Weired error in canvas due to sal. What do you think? cf. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/editors/openoffice-devel/files/patch-sal?revision=342617view=markup /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/solver/410/unxfbsdx.pro/inc/rtl/string.hxx:237:5: error: 'rtl::OString::operator const sal_Char*() const' is private /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/canvas/source/cairo/cairo_textlayout.cxx:336:40: error: within this context /work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo/main/canvas/source/cairo/cairo_textlayout.cxx: In member function 'bool cairocanvas::TextLayout::draw(cairo::SurfaceSharedPtr, OutputDevice, const Point, const com::sun::star::rendering::ViewState, const com::sun::star::rendering::RenderState) const': Thanks for finding this! These implicit conversions are dangerous, so better use the change from http://svn.apache.org/r1564650 instead. Thanks for working on this! Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
