Re: Compiling 4.1.1 on MacOS X 10.6.8 (intel) - GCC version problem
On 27.11.2014 01:09, Clive Bruton wrote: I am trying to compile OpenOffice 4.1.1 to run on MacOS X 10.6.8. For building older versions of OpenOffice on Mac please see [1]. It requires XCode 2 or XCode 3, both of which are not easy to get nowadays. They are also almost impossible to install on current systems. For these older versions the page also documents the requirement to compile with the 10.4 SDK. For building AOO 4.1 or newer please see [2]. The build system has been reworked to allow current XCode versions (4.5 or newer) and works fine with newer SDKs (10.7 or newer). However OSX 10.7 or newer are a requirement for these newer builds. [1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_MacOSX [2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Building_on_MacOsX When I run the ./configure it runs for a few seconds then shows the following error: checking the GNU gcc compiler version... configure: error: found version 1.0.2, use version 3+ of the gcc compiler If I run: gcc -v I get: gcc version 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5659) Any ideas on how to fix this? Also, what's the specific reason 4.1.1 isn't built as a binary for 10.6.8, while 4.0.1 is? Please see above. The build system was quite outdated, the build requirements were more than obsolete and targeted platforms that were no longer supported by Apple. Also many other vendors like Mozilla, Google, Microsoft, Adobe, etc. had already dropped support for these old platforms. When we did the overdue refresh for newer platforms we also used the opportunity to switch to 64bit. It would have been possible to get it work on OSX10.6 too, but it was already unsupported by Apple then and nobody was interested to put work into backporting the stuff [3]. [3] http://markmail.org/message/qfqarbaoesonibur Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Compiling 4.1.1 on MacOS X 10.6.8 (intel) - GCC version problem
On 27 Nov 2014, at 08:35, Herbert Duerr wrote: For building older versions of OpenOffice on Mac please see [1]. I think what you are saying is that there are dependencies in the code that require 10.7. If this is the case then the error reported should be that the system is not supported (and why), rather than the gcc version is incorrect. It requires XCode 2 or XCode 3, both of which are not easy to get nowadays. They are also almost impossible to install on current systems. For these older versions the page also documents the requirement to compile with the 10.4 SDK. Actually, these versions of Xcode are easy enough to get (I downloaded 3.2.6 just a few days ago), and at least with 3.x the option is there in the install to include support for 10.4. The old versions of Xcode are here (Xcode 2.3-6.1 for download, just search for Xcode): https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action Please see above. The build system was quite outdated, the build requirements were more than obsolete and targeted platforms that were no longer supported by Apple. Also many other vendors like Mozilla, Google, Microsoft, Adobe, etc. had already dropped support for these old platforms. When we did the overdue refresh for newer platforms we also used the opportunity to switch to 64bit. It would have been possible to get it work on OSX10.6 too, but it was already unsupported by Apple then and nobody was interested to put work into backporting the stuff [3]. Thanks for the note. I think the issue is that all the companies you name have a commercial interest in obsolescence, I'm not sure what the incentive for the Apache foundation would be in supporting that business model. From my own perspective, and I am probably in a small minority, my interest in supporting older systems (ie up to 10.6) is because they are able to run PPC and classic apps, which 10.7 is unable to do. I'm pretty sure I have Apache and MySQL running on such systems. -- Clive - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Compiling 4.1.1 on MacOS X 10.6.8 (intel) - GCC version problem
On 27.11.2014 12:31, Clive Bruton wrote: On 27 Nov 2014, at 08:35, Herbert Duerr wrote: For building older versions of OpenOffice on Mac please see [1]. I think what you are saying is that there are dependencies in the code that require 10.7. If this is the case then the error reported should be that the system is not supported (and why), rather than the gcc version is incorrect. Agreed. This and other messages should be updated to pinpoint the exact root cause. Also the configure options that don't make sense on a platform should be removed altogether. While reworking the configure step IMHO also the advanced options should have to be enabled extra. There is plenty of opportunity to make the configure step and the build system much smoother. It requires XCode 2 or XCode 3, both of which are not easy to get nowadays. They are also almost impossible to install on current systems. For these older versions the page also documents the requirement to compile with the 10.4 SDK. Actually, these versions of Xcode are easy enough to get (I downloaded 3.2.6 just a few days ago), and at least with 3.x the option is there in the install to include support for 10.4. The old versions of Xcode are here (Xcode 2.3-6.1 for download, just search for Xcode): https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action Installing and running these old XCodes on recent systems (e.g. Yosemite) is the really tricky thing. And finding and downloading their blobs is also not as easy as installing them from the app store. Please see above. The build system was quite outdated, the build requirements were more than obsolete and targeted platforms that were no longer supported by Apple. Also many other vendors like Mozilla, Google, Microsoft, Adobe, etc. had already dropped support for these old platforms. When we did the overdue refresh for newer platforms we also used the opportunity to switch to 64bit. It would have been possible to get it work on OSX10.6 too, but it was already unsupported by Apple then and nobody was interested to put work into backporting the stuff [3]. Thanks for the note. I think the issue is that all the companies you name have a commercial interest in obsolescence, I'm not sure what the incentive for the Apache foundation would be in supporting that business model. I'm not sure that e.g. Google or Mozilla are interested in planned obsolescence. They are probably just not interested in putting extra effort into providing upgrade paths for users that seem to be averse to upgrading. The law of diminishing returns applies in this situation. From my own perspective, and I am probably in a small minority, my interest in supporting older systems (ie up to 10.6) is because they are able to run PPC and classic apps, which 10.7 is unable to do. I'm pretty sure I have Apache and MySQL running on such systems. The two Apache projects you mentioned probably just require plain POSIX compliance for their development platforms. AFAIK this aspect of the Mac development environment has remained stable, so not extra effort was required, whereas in our GUI heavy requirements plenty of stuff has been deprecated. We cannot ignore these deprecations forever, they'll be removed sooner or later. Anyway, in your case I suggest to build the latest AOO 4.0.1 source [1] on XCode3 with the Mac 10.4 SDK using the build instructions at [2]. [1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/tags/AOO401/ [2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_MacOSX Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Issues for vertical layout on Mac
Hi Aron, On 27.11.2014 08:53, aron wrote: I reported a vertical layout issues under Mac at here https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=86768 also reported it at OpenOffice's bugzilla https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125908 It looks like OSX's CoreText does funny things when vertical mode is requested for fonts that don't understand the concept of vertical mode. I suggest to experiment with the pCFVertBool variable in main/vcl/aqua/source/gdi/ctfonts.cxx or by disabling the line setting the value for KCTVerticalFormsAttributeName altogether. If it shows that only fonts without OpenType's vert or vrt2 feature are affected we could add a check for this and then work around this CoreText problem. I've updated the AOO issue you reported accordingly. Like shown in the illustration below, both Mongolian and English text is not handled correctly on vertical layout mode under Mac(and Ubuntu too although there is no Ubuntu's screen shot at here). Attachments are stripped from mails sent to this mailing list so the images cannot be seen. But they are available in the issue you reported. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
On 11/24/2014 11:00 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Let's imagine a roller coaster. But I would also ask then the group at OX (Ye Olde Hamburg contingent), as well as others in LO, say, to join in. This quarter century chunk is *serious* time. It's not a trivial expanse of forget me nots trod under history's sneakers. It's time that's been spent making a product that's proven resilient and powerful and it its making included a huge number of people, not all of whom are here listening but all the same are there using. louis You are SO right! Regardless of a 30th or 25th anniversary, it is not inconsequential. So what are your thoughts on appropriate activities for this occasion? On 24 November 2014 at 13:01, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-23 21:55 GMT+01:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com: On 2014-11 -23, at 12:58, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote: Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob Can we reach a consensus on whether 2015 should be a 25 yr or 30 yr anniversary? It would be great to get some graphic types involved soon in creating an appropriate logo for the websites to put up in 2015. Why do we need a certain date to enable good graphics? Note, I’m a historian. That means that I distrust any claim to date certainty and believe, rather, that we can trace backwards the emergence of modalities of living which in the present lay claim to having been birthed at particular moments, though in historical narrative that was only when they were revealed to be as such. Hence, a graph(ic) would do nicely, no? Not a cake but a chart? I wasn't actually thinking of a cake but maybe a fun modification to the round logo for a year -- encircled with silver (25th anniversary?) or the like. Would be cool to do something like this: http://historyofbitcoin.org/ Yes, it would, and I think we have this timeline somewhere...I'll try to locate it. Roberto Despite the fact that 1985 was the release of a text based StarWriter rather than graphical, I, personally am good with this date. -- - MzK One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star. -- Friedrich Nietzsche - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star. -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- - MzK One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star. -- Friedrich Nietzsche - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
