Re: Detection of MathML

2014-12-06 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

I have found it. It is a change for issue 124636 in revision 1586271 by 
Armin.


Kind regards
Regina

Regina Henschel schrieb:

Hi all,

AOO 4.1.1 opens XHTML files which contain only a math-element in module
Math and can import such files and convert them to StarMath. Current
trunc (AOO4.2?) does it not, but presents the generic text filter for
selecting an encoding.

Does someone remember of any recent changes in filter detection?

I come across this when looking at
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=53509.

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: Wiki and Forum vms.

2014-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 04/12/2014 jan i wrote:

This is just an update to keep you all informed about whats happening with
our vms.


Thanks a lot for the update.


Having looked at the vms, I have identified a couple of severe issues:
- We cannot update to ubuntu 14.04.1, that requires puppet3 (we currently
use puppet2).
- The diskspace on / of wiki is too restricted (logs should be moved to
somewhere else).
- ATS on wiki is past end of life, and should be removed/replaced
- php2bb should be updated.
- Some forums seems unused, but still use db connections


Especially the first one is quite bad in view of future upgrades. As for 
the logs, we probably keep too many logs, so yes the space is restricted 
but also logs can be reduced. The application part is, as always, 
complex since we use some mods and not everything is completely 
documented (again, due to legacy configuration). But maybe we don't need 
all of those.



Remark: these problems are NOT caused by the maintenance pescetti did


Well, this wouldn't be a problem. In this case, I confirm they are 
long-standing issues, but of course if there are fixes to be done, it's 
not important at all whether this would revert previous work done by me: 
if it can be done better, no problems at all.



I have had a discussion with infra about how best to address these issues,
and our common opinion, is that the best solution is to roll 1 or 2 new
vms, install the applications again. Furthermore look into having ATS (new
version) running in a separate vm to help take load from both forum and vm.


This would be very good and much more than one would do as ordinary 
maintenance. Especially for the forum this would improve the current 
situation in terms of future maintainability.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Officeshots.org

2014-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Thanks Herbert, and I'm forwarding your answer (below) to Michiel who 
does not seem to be subscribed to this list. Andrea


On 05/12/2014 Herbert Duerr wrote:

I'll try to provide one for the plugfest. I'll probably have it running
on my notebook in a dedicated virtual machine.

On 02.12.2014 23:43, Michiel Leenaars wrote:

Dear Apache OpenOffice developers,


as some of you will know we have the 10th ODF plugfest coming up next
week, hosted by the UK Cabinet Office [1] - for which you are all
invited, of course. For that purpose (and to support the UK government
migration to ODF) we are working hard on Officeshots.org. Officeshots is
an automated validation and testing infrastructure that contains
instances of many different office applications (and potentially
different versions), and can be used to see how documents will be opened
and rendered by other ODF consuming applications.

It would be really awesome if someone from the Apache OpenOffice
community would set up a copy of AOO for Officeshots.org (ideally on
multiple platforms and both a trunk version and a release, but lets
start with the basics). This is not a very difficult or time consuming
thing to do, and it can run on a desktop in the background or on a small
virtual machine somewhere. It would however be very useful for interop
testing, because all test documents created during the plugfest can be
automatically pushed to it. Also, the upcoming ODF Autotests
infrastructure can use the same infrastructure.

The manual for installing a factory can be found here:

http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/wiki/FactoryManual

If you find yourself with an hour of time and the kindness to volunteer,
please register at http://www.officeshots.org and subsequently contact
me to get the appropriate rights to set up a factory.

Best regards,
Michiel Leenaars
OpenDoc Society

[1] http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org

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Re: oooforum

2014-12-06 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 12/05/2014 08:34 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

On 05 Dec2014, at 19:41, Andreas Säger saege...@t-online.de wrote:

Am 05.12.2014 um 01:15 schrieb Andrew Douglas Pitonyak:

I did a scrape of the pages, and it is about 8GB last time I did it. Off
hand, I expect that a huge chunk of that is SPAM, especially since most
of the SPAMS have large graphics included. I considered writing a PERL
script to clean that based on certain search criteria, but, it just
feels like a huge annoyance to spend hours removing posts and then
trolling the rest of the files to rearrange all of the links so that
things continue to function. So, I did not start the clean-up process
from my scrape.


Hi,

Last time when I was browsing oooforum.org, there was a distinct day
when the moderators gave up. Every posting since that day is spam or an
unanswered question. Everything before that day was more or less well
moderated.
Sorry, I don't recall which day it was but it is easy to find when you
search postings of active members.

Hope this helps.

I volunteer to help with moderation. I’m a moderator for the dev (and other?) 
lists, but never do the work, as usually others do it before I get to it—I live 
in a lucky timezone, I guess. Or I’m exceptionally lazy.

-louis

Ed is currently considering his options as to what he would like to do.

In the meantime, I am happy to send a copy of my last scrape from around 
September 1 to anyone who wants it providing I do not have too many 
takers. That scrape took a few days to run based on the load and the 
amount of spam. The posts are mostly spam and it is only a scrape. The 
scrape contains links and similar, but you need to get through mostly 
spam to find anything useful.


After Ed decides what he wants to do a better plan can be put in place.

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My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
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Re: [Wiki] Corrupted page

2014-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 05/12/2014 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

It strikes me as a compression failure ...
It could also be that the .Z filename is tripping up some browsers


Dennis is right. Here's the problem (which we could probably fix at the 
httpd configuration level):


$ curl -I 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FR/Calc:_fonction_TEST.Z

HTTP/1.1 200 OK ...
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Encoding: x-compress

$ curl -I 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=FR/Documentation/Calc:_fonction_TEST.Z

HTTP/1.1 200 OK ...
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

If you compare, Content-Encoding: x-compress is missing from the 
latter, which displays fine.


The two links should be equivalent, but the former is syntactically 
identical to a file of type .Z (a totally obsolete, as far as I know, 
compressed format).


So the issue is that a page name ends in .Z (and it would probably be 
the same if I create a page having a name ending in .gz, but I won't 
test it).


The fact that the page ends in .Z probably triggers something like the 
following (I didn't check the actual configuration, I simply mean 
something along these lines):

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_mime.html#addencoding
that adds the Content-Encoding: x-compress header in the former case, 
which in turn confuses some (maybe not all) browsers.


I would suggest to simply drop any special handling of .Z files since we 
surely don't host any .Z files in our wiki.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: oooforum

2014-12-06 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

Side note: it seems that there is actually not much discussion.

Ed, it seems, is over-committed for his time, which is what caused the 
problem with the forum in the first place. For now, I think most of the 
time is spent waiting on Ed to consider his options and make a decision 
about what he wants to do. Any decision that is made then takes time 
time implement, and it will likely take something from him that was his 
baby for a long time. In other words, it is not an easy decision to make.


Sadly, time is not our friend here.

On 12/04/2014 10:45 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Unfortunately seems these matters went into private lists. I would
suggest a public IRC meetup to clear all the issues, and fast-track to
a conclusion and actions.

On 12/4/14, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

For information: the old forum (oooforum.org) is currently flagged as
follows

NOTICE: This domain name expired on 02/12/2014 and is pending renewal or
deletion.

This might be an appropriate time to renew/continue earlier discussions .

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Re: oooforum

2014-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 04/12/2014 Alexandro Colorado wrote:

wget doesnt preserve the links but do an html copy of the old website,
basically what you are asking from Ed.


No, it's much different. We want a fully working website: both the 
database and files that are needed to clone the site. This keeps all 
options open, while a bunch of HTML files takes us nowhere for a dynamic 
site like this one (yes, you can access some content, but it is of 
course entirely different from being able to simply rebuild the 
application and use the built-in functionality for, e.g., deleting spam 
posts).



My original question was if there was a follow up after your request?


Yes. The outcome is the one I described earlier in this public thread: 
that solution (read-only mirror, but as a full phpbb site, not as a 
static HTML grabbed copy) would be the best one for clean-up and archival.


I concur with Andrew that the ball is in Ed's court now, and that we 
should simply wait for him (we are not under pressure, meaning that even 
with an expired domain Ed will probably still have access to everything 
we would need to clone the forum). Andrew's full scrape can be a plan B, 
but a really unsatisfactory one compared to the other option.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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