Re: LanguageTool - place link on AOO site

2015-06-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 29/06/2015 jan i wrote:

On 29 June 2015 at 16:53, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

There is  already a link from the Extensions repository, at
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/languagetool
Perhaps this should be linked also to the sadebar on  the download page?


I would be a bit careful with that, if done (and I am not against it being
done) it must be 100%
clear that this is not coming from apache, and not part of our release


We already link to the Extensions site from
http://www.openoffice.org/download/
with the appropriate wording ("Extend your Apache OpenOffice 
functionality with a large and growing library of extensions and 
dictionaries from other users") and when clicking on it one immediately 
sees the most popular extensions.


Maybe the download page of the English dictionary (the one managed by 
Marco on the Extensions site) can be modified to recommend LanguageTool 
as a further add-on?


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Help needed with config, PKG_CHECK_MODULES macro

2015-06-29 Thread Kay Schenk
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Well no responses but no need for a response. No, I did not get this
solved -- yet!

Autoconf on my new setup is, as we say here in the US, "weirding" things
out quite a bit, and, an autotools guru I am not, so LOTS of research. :(

later...

On 06/22/2015 03:56 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> I am up on a new CentOS 6 OS (32 bit). Mostly OK except I can NOT get
> PKG_CHECK_MODULES used in configure.in to work. It fails on the first
> occurrence looking for cppunit. It's been so long since I first started
> building AOO that I don't remember if I had to do something special to
> my autoconf setup to make this work correctly. So, I will keep looking
> but if anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them. In the past when
> I've had issues with this the '.pc' files were missing for libraries we
> check, but that is not the case here.
> 
> I do notice that the syntax used for PKG_CHECK_MODULES kind of varies --
> not that I particularly think this is the problem.
> 
> I have autoconf 2.6.3
> 
> Thanks. for any help.
> 

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English Dictionaries updated - 1-JUL-2015

2015-06-29 Thread Marco A.G.Pinto

Hello!

I have released a new version of the English dictionaries for OpenOffice:
- en_GB (British) (updated: 2015-07-01)*

* en_GB has 634 new words.

You canwait a few days until AOO triggers it or download it from the 
Extension site:

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice

Also, the Mozilla en_GB:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/british-english-dictionary-2

And the Proofing Tool GUI project site:
http://marcoagpinto.cidadevirtual.pt/proofingtoolgui.html
(please notice the new link at the top: "Get Involved")


PS->I know it is still not officially the 1st of July but I have the 
update ready/packed for a couple of days or so.


Thanks!

Kind regards from your friend,
   >Marco A.G.Pinto
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Re: Download Stats

2015-06-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 10:42 AM, jan i  wrote:

> On Saturday, June 27, 2015, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>
> >
> > On 06/26/2015 11:27 AM, Marcus wrote:
> > > Am 06/26/2015 12:40 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > >> Just to note that the OO download statistics haven't been updated in a
> > >> long time.
> > >
> > > I remember that Rob has taken care about updating these numbers.
> > > Unfortunately, I don't know where it is decribed how it is done.
> > >
> > > Marcus
> >
> > I think Rob's python scripts are in:
> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/
> > using the csv file you see there (?0 but I don't know where THAT comes
> > from.
> >
> > This was a nice feature but we need instructions.
>
> I don't think Rob has abandoned  the ship, just busy doing other thing.
>
>
I'm still around.   But I have been moving to a new home in New Hampshire,
so had a few days without internet and another one before I found what box
had my computer mouse in it!



> rob@ would be nice if you could add a little explanation.
>
>
I've been updating every month or so.   It was last updated mid May.
 I'll do it again at the end of June.  At one point we talked about hooking
the code up to the CMS and have it generate automatically, but I don't know
if that is still feasible.

If someone wanted up-to-the-minute numbers I think that would look better
as a "live" counter graphic on the download page, or something like that.
The script on /devtools/aoo-stats does much more than produce the data for
that chart.   It also does daily breakdowns by version, OS and language,
data that is useful for other things.   So I'd encourage maintaining that
script and the full underlying data set.

Regards,

-Rob


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RE: Background to Cooperation: ASF/AOO Principles, Policies, Practices

2015-06-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Jan, it is valuable to comprehend just how narrow individual exceptions 
are.

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Subject: Re: Background to Cooperation: ASF/AOO Principles, Policies, Practices

On 28 June 2015 at 19:49, Dennis E. Hamilton  wrote:

[ ... ]
> An example of an exception that is specific to the Apache OpenOffice
> project is the distribution of convenience binaries that have writing-aid
> plug-ins bundled with them that are not themselves under a license that is
> acceptable for source-code releases.  There are a number of specific,
> delimited provisions under which this action is found consistent with
> Apache principles although it is an exception to a general policy.  This
> practice was only introduced after obtaining review and eventual
> concurrence via the list on which legal and license questions are discussed.
>
> 
> The narrowness of the exception for these plug-ins is that they
> contain no code, they deliver data in a general format that can
> be used in a well-defined technique, and that they are completely
> replaceable.  Users can also install additional ones of their
> choosing and remove/disable the ones that are provided in the
> binary distributions as a convenience.  It is also the case that,
> if one inspects the plug-in (using a form of Zip package), one
> would encounter all applicable license information and there would
> be no confusion over the license that is specific to them material
> conveyed by a given plug-in.
> 
>

I would be very careful about interpreting the above extract. The plugins
do contains quite a lot of code, and some of them like the dictionaries are
not really
optional. We actually deliver plugins as part of our own exe, so we do
distribute some of the plugins without a special license.

But legal has looked at what we deliver and accepted it, so no need to
detail that further.

You also use the word "narrowness", as if these exceptions are written in
stone, that is not the case, we can always ask for other exceptions if
needed (whether
we get them is a different matter).


   The specific *individual* exception is very narrow.  That is what I meant. 
And exceptions always apply to specific cases.  For example, the one I linked 
to is about a situation with Apache OpenOffice and it was asked with respect to 
writing aids, GPL dictionaries in particular.  The title of the issue is 
"Aggregation of GPL dictionaries with Apache OpenOffice", < 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117>, and the question is, 
specifically "can Apache OpenOffice include GPL spell-checking dictionaries 
with its binary releases?."  
   Of course there can be more exceptions, each reviewed and approved or 
disallowed with respect to individual cases.  And the exception granted to AOO 
for the particular case is not an extension of policy.  That is the point of my 
remarks here.
   On reflection, I also think that is why Sam Ruby did not discuss the 
prospect of other licenses being comingled in those [dictionary] plug-ins.  
That was not part of the request and legal was not about to expand the scope of 
LEGAL-117 scope beyond what was asked for.  My observations about other mingled 
licenses at the time would best have gone back to the [P]PMC (the origin of the 
exception request).
   PS: I don't think legal has looked at what AOO delivers.  They considered 
the request and assume that the [P]PMC requested what it actually needed and 
only what it actually needed and proposed to do.  This is not a blanket 
exception for all manner of plug-ins having GPL licenses and it applies 
specifically to AOO binary distributions.


rgds
jan i.


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Re: LanguageTool - place link on AOO site

2015-06-29 Thread jan i
On 29 June 2015 at 16:53, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:47:16 +0100
> "Marco A.G.Pinto"  wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > Just wondering if you place a link to the grammar checker, LanguageTool,
> > somewhere in the area of the AOO downloads:
> > https://languagetool.org
> >
> > I am involved on the Portuguese rules for it.
> >
> > LanguageTool is an important add-on for AOO since it supports over 20
> > languages and it suggests grammar corrections, which is something
> > missing in AOO but which MS Office has by default.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >   >Marco A.G.Pinto
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> >
> > --
>
> There is  already a link from the Extensions repository, at
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/languagetool
>
> Perhaps this should be linked also to the sadebar on  the download page?
>
I would be a bit careful with that, if done (and I am not against it being
done) it must be 100%
clear that this is not coming from apache, and not part of our release
schedule.

rgds
jan I.


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Re: LanguageTool - place link on AOO site

2015-06-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:47:16 +0100
"Marco A.G.Pinto"  wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> Just wondering if you place a link to the grammar checker, LanguageTool, 
> somewhere in the area of the AOO downloads:
> https://languagetool.org
> 
> I am involved on the Portuguese rules for it.
> 
> LanguageTool is an important add-on for AOO since it supports over 20 
> languages and it suggests grammar corrections, which is something 
> missing in AOO but which MS Office has by default.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Kind regards,
>   >Marco A.G.Pinto
> --
> 
> -- 

There is  already a link from the Extensions repository, at
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/languagetool

Perhaps this should be linked also to the sadebar on  the download page?

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LanguageTool - place link on AOO site

2015-06-29 Thread Marco A.G.Pinto

Hello!

Just wondering if you place a link to the grammar checker, LanguageTool, 
somewhere in the area of the AOO downloads:

https://languagetool.org

I am involved on the Portuguese rules for it.

LanguageTool is an important add-on for AOO since it supports over 20 
languages and it suggests grammar corrections, which is something 
missing in AOO but which MS Office has by default.


Thanks!

Kind regards,
 >Marco A.G.Pinto
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