RE: Which source files in release?

2016-09-30 Thread Gavin McDonald
Instead of removing the .svn dirs/files with a script, use the built in  'svn 
export' which exports the 
checkout without all the .svn dirs/files.

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.ref.svn.c.export.html


Gav...


> -Original Message-
> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 11:28 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Which source files in release?
> 
> I just saw the bug report
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126605, "Make sure the source
> package does not contain extra files"
> 
> Since our build instructions and processes are based on the result of an svn
> checkout, basing the source package on one seemed obvious to me. The
> only change that seems to me to be absolutely required is removing the .svn
> directories, and that is a one-liner:
> 
> find . -type d -name '.svn' -exec rm -fr '{}' ';'
> 
> Removing other dot files is a refinement, but I think even without that I am
> closer to what should be packaged than working from the result of a
> configure.
> 
> On 9/30/2016 5:53 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> > I am trying to select the files that should go in the zip and tar
> > files for the source release for 4.1.3.
> >
> > I did a clean checkout of the 4.1.3 branch, and then deleted the .svn
> > directories that I know do not belong in the source release.
> >
> > The 4.1.2 release includes the following dot files:
> >
> > ./aoo-4.1.2/main/extras/unx/source/kde/applnk/.directory
> > ./aoo-4.1.2/main/vos/docu/.html
> >
> > The 4.1.3 tree contains those, and the following additional dot files:
> >
> > ./AOO413/main/.hgignore
> > ./AOO413/main/.hgtags
> > ./AOO413/test/testassistant/.classpath
> > ./AOO413/test/testassistant/.project
> > ./AOO413/test/testassistant/.settings
> > ./AOO413/test/testassistant.feature/.project
> > ./AOO413/test/testcommon/.classpath
> > ./AOO413/test/testcommon/.project
> > ./AOO413/test/testgui/.classpath
> > ./AOO413/test/testgui/.project
> > ./AOO413/test/testgui/.settings
> > ./AOO413/test/testuno/.classpath_linux
> > ./AOO413/test/testuno/.classpath_win
> > ./AOO413/test/testuno/.externalToolBuilders
> > ./AOO413/test/testuno/.project
> >
> > The .project and .classpath files may be to do with making it easier
> > to set up and run the tests under Eclipse.
> >
> > Opinions?
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Re: Which source files in release?

2016-09-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 9/30/2016 9:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

there is no need to reinvent the wheel, I guess ;)


Indeed. I've bumped the bug report just to give visibility to the
scripts we already had.


you need to fix the ant build script first, see the bug report


Fixing the script results in a commit. We agree that this is just a tool
and that we can fix the script on trunk and build the AOO413 source with
the fixed version without committing it to AOO413, right? Otherwise we
would (theoretically) have to rebuild releases for a fix in a tool to
get the same results.


OK, I won't rock the 4.1.3 boat.

When we come to look at this in the trunk and/or 4.1.4, some thought 
should be given to the weirdness of running a checkout through a 
procedure that is designed to tailor it to a particular system, and 
trying to generate the system independent source files from that.


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Re: Introduction

2016-09-30 Thread John D'Orazio
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Xen  wrote:

> R. Mark Aldrich schreef op 28-09-2016 22:55:
>
> Section 5 starts with
>> "A useful shortcut notation you will often see on the lists.", which
>> makes sense if you read it as Yoda, but I think it would make more
>> sense to change it to "You will often see useful shortcut notations on
>> the lists."
>>
>
> That has a different meaning.
>
> The author is not saying that you will often see useful shortcut notations
> on the lists. The phrase references a part that has not been uttered, so
> you would have to say something like "Some useful  you may come across
> on the lists are "dev" and "..." as abbreviations of mailing lists" --
> because the existing statement consists of parts, and so if you want to put
> it "back together" you must unite those parts.
>
> In general you cannot rewrite individual statements, you must rewrite the
> whole thing if you want the text to keep its flow and consistency and
> meaning.
>
> It's the same as
>
> "Something you may want to know about... Yesterday I came across something
> I want you to know, and it is that ...". It is just a way of conversing, or
> phrasing things.
>
> or
>
> "That thing I was thinking about. You have heard it before. It is ...".
>
> So if you change it, you must at least rewrite the whole section. But
> ideally you would change the whole thing (in style) ;-).
>
> Personally I would only do so if I thought a different style would be more
> readable and more comfortable or convenient as a way of relaxing.
>
> Less staccato, and more fluid, perhaps.
>
> Anyway, just saying ;-).
>
> However the current style precisely expresses what it needed to express.
> Fixing stuff and then discovering that the result is worse than before is
> not a good way to spend time ;-).
>
> Regards.


I still don't quite get what this phrase is trying to express, and it
really sounds like Yoda to me too. I would certainly try to rephrase it so
it flows better. My understanding is that this is what it's trying to get
across:
"You will often find in the mailing lists that a shortcut notation is used
to refer to the same lists. Writing a list name in full, like
dev@openoffice.apache.org can be tedious. So you will often see it called
just "dev"."


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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 9/30/2016 10:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release
manager to decide on them.


If nobody steps in, and/or nobody has any objection, you can count with
me.


I would be very happy to have Ariel as Release Manager.


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RE: Windows XP confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381

2016-09-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This time, before running the 2016-09-29 installer, I uninstalled the previous 
AOO 4.1.3-dev install in my Windows XP VM.

That installed fine.

It appears that the checking for installed VC++ redistributables is invisible 
on Windows XP, but visible on Windows 10 Anniversary edition.  On the XP 
system, I found both cases in Windows\WinSxS for VC90 redistributables.  (Their 
manifests and security catalogs, however, are dated 2011.)

Looking back at the Windows 10 Anniversary Edition that I also installed on, I 
can't find recently-added redistributables at all, so I must not know where to 
be looking.

 - Dennis

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> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 09:53
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Windows XP confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381
> 
> I successfully installed the 2016-09-23 AOO 4.1.3-dev (r1761381)
> Win_x86_en-US on Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 3
> (running in a VirtualBox VM).
> 
> No VC++ 2008 redistributable installation occurred.
> 
> I have not checked anything else at this point.
> 
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RE: Windows 10 Anniversary confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381

2016-09-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I ran the install of the 2016-09-29 AOO4.1.3-dev r1761381 (still) to see how 
the VC++ redistributables worked.

I saw the redistributables install again, apparently being newer as expected.

The main AOO install did not run because the same version was detected as 
already installed.

After uninstalling AOO4.1.3-dev and then again installing the 2016-09-29 
install, I saw the VC++ redistributables checks go by quickly, but apparently 
not with any time installing.  The AOO part of the installation proceeded 
successfully.

 - Dennis

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> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 09:35
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Windows 10 Anniversary confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381
> 
> I successfully installed the 2016-09-23 AOO-dev (r1761381) Win_x86_en-US
> on Windows 10 Anniversary Edition (Version 1607 build 14393.187).
> 
> There was apparently no VC++ 2008 redistributables already on the
> system, and the runtime installation was performed.
> 
> I have not checked anything else at this point.
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release
manager to decide on them.


If nobody steps in, and/or nobody has any objection, you can count with
me.


I would be very happy to have Ariel as Release Manager.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Which source files in release?

2016-09-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

there is no need to reinvent the wheel, I guess ;)


Indeed. I've bumped the bug report just to give visibility to the 
scripts we already had.



you need to fix the ant build script first, see the bug report


Fixing the script results in a commit. We agree that this is just a tool 
and that we can fix the script on trunk and build the AOO413 source with 
the fixed version without committing it to AOO413, right? Otherwise we 
would (theoretically) have to rebuild releases for a fix in a tool to 
get the same results.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Translate offline

2016-09-30 Thread Claudio Ferreia Filho
Hi

i continue doing some translations to AOO, but I saw that
translate.apache.org is offline.

If someone can do something to warn the infra, is a good thing.

Thanks in advance,

Claudio Ferreira


Successfully built ApacheOO trunk in Debian Sid (Unstable)

2016-09-30 Thread Jose R R
Niltze, all-

First time I build ApacheOO in Debian Sid for AMD64. I found this
quirk towards the end of the build routine:
[...]
Calculating Installed-Size...
Building Debian binary distribution...
dpkg --build openoffice-core03_4.2.0-1_amd64
Packaging failed!

Reason is target packaging requires root privileges - acquired with
sudo su, for instance); hence, building OO as a normal user fails and
developer should:

sudo su

And, when at directories:

aoo-trunk/main$ source ./LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh

cd instsetoo_native/

aoo-trunk/main/instsetoo_native$ build --all -P -- -P

Pleased with the outcome:

< https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctm2Vr9UsAEE2gi.jpg:large >

< https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctm2X5iUAAAM3LQ.jpg:large >

apt-get install rpm # needed for RPMS build

apt-get install lib32gcc-5-dev libx32gcc-5-dev # required by ApacheOO

(had issues with gcc 6.x, thus downgraded to)

gcc --version
gcc (Debian 5.4.1-2) 5.4.1 20160904
[...]

apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
(installed from experimental repositories - but not required) as
ApacheOO build routine used:

java -version
openjdk version "1.8.0_102"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_102-8u102-b14.1-2-b14)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.102-b14, mixed mode)


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Re: Which source files in release?

2016-09-30 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 07:19:25AM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> 
> > On Sep 30, 2016, at 07:00, Ariel Constenla-Haile  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 06:28:01AM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> >> I just saw the bug report https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126605,
> >> "Make sure the source package does not contain extra files"
> >> 
> >> Since our build instructions and processes are based on the result of an 
> >> svn
> >> checkout, basing the source package on one seemed obvious to me. The only
> >> change that seems to me to be absolutely required is removing the .svn
> >> directories, and that is a one-liner:
> > 
> > You better do this inside the build environment:
> > 
> 
> Why?

Because there is no need to reinvent the wheel, I guess ;)
(you need to fix the ant build script first, see the bug report)


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Re: Which source files in release?

2016-09-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan

> On Sep 30, 2016, at 07:00, Ariel Constenla-Haile  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 06:28:01AM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>> I just saw the bug report https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126605,
>> "Make sure the source package does not contain extra files"
>> 
>> Since our build instructions and processes are based on the result of an svn
>> checkout, basing the source package on one seemed obvious to me. The only
>> change that seems to me to be absolutely required is removing the .svn
>> directories, and that is a one-liner:
> 
> You better do this inside the build environment:
> 

Why?

> cd main
> source 
> cd instsetoo_native/util/
> dmake aoo_srcrelease
> 
> This calls ant with solenv/bin/srcrelease.xml, which has the bug that
> was written for macOS, thus it only excludes MacOSXX86Env.* for example,
> see
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO413/main/solenv/bin/srcrelease.xml?revision=1760467&view=markup#l32
> 
> ant ignores those .svn folders, see
> https://ant.apache.org/manual/dirtasks.html#defaultexcludes
> 
> 
> Regards
> -- 
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Re: Which source files in release?

2016-09-30 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 06:28:01AM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> I just saw the bug report https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126605,
> "Make sure the source package does not contain extra files"
> 
> Since our build instructions and processes are based on the result of an svn
> checkout, basing the source package on one seemed obvious to me. The only
> change that seems to me to be absolutely required is removing the .svn
> directories, and that is a one-liner:

You better do this inside the build environment:

cd main
source 
cd instsetoo_native/util/
dmake aoo_srcrelease

This calls ant with solenv/bin/srcrelease.xml, which has the bug that
was written for macOS, thus it only excludes MacOSXX86Env.* for example,
see
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO413/main/solenv/bin/srcrelease.xml?revision=1760467&view=markup#l32

ant ignores those .svn folders, see
https://ant.apache.org/manual/dirtasks.html#defaultexcludes


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Re: Which source files in release?

2016-09-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I just saw the bug report 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126605, "Make sure the source 
package does not contain extra files"


Since our build instructions and processes are based on the result of an 
svn checkout, basing the source package on one seemed obvious to me. The 
only change that seems to me to be absolutely required is removing the 
.svn directories, and that is a one-liner:


find . -type d -name '.svn' -exec rm -fr '{}' ';'

Removing other dot files is a refinement, but I think even without that 
I am closer to what should be packaged than working from the result of a 
configure.


On 9/30/2016 5:53 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

I am trying to select the files that should go in the zip and tar files
for the source release for 4.1.3.

I did a clean checkout of the 4.1.3 branch, and then deleted the .svn
directories that I know do not belong in the source release.

The 4.1.2 release includes the following dot files:

./aoo-4.1.2/main/extras/unx/source/kde/applnk/.directory
./aoo-4.1.2/main/vos/docu/.html

The 4.1.3 tree contains those, and the following additional dot files:

./AOO413/main/.hgignore
./AOO413/main/.hgtags
./AOO413/test/testassistant/.classpath
./AOO413/test/testassistant/.project
./AOO413/test/testassistant/.settings
./AOO413/test/testassistant.feature/.project
./AOO413/test/testcommon/.classpath
./AOO413/test/testcommon/.project
./AOO413/test/testgui/.classpath
./AOO413/test/testgui/.project
./AOO413/test/testgui/.settings
./AOO413/test/testuno/.classpath_linux
./AOO413/test/testuno/.classpath_win
./AOO413/test/testuno/.externalToolBuilders
./AOO413/test/testuno/.project

The .project and .classpath files may be to do with making it easier to
set up and run the tests under Eclipse.

Opinions?

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4.1.4_release_blocker requested: [Issue 126605] Make sure the source package does not contain extra files

2016-09-30 Thread bugzilla
Andrea Pescetti  has asked  for 4.1.4_release_blocker:
Issue 126605: Make sure the source package does not contain extra files
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126605



--- Comment #2 from Andrea Pescetti  ---
This is a good candidate for fixing in trunk first and 4.1.4 later. I'm not
proposing it as a 4.1.3 blocker since at this stage it is OK to build the
source package exactly as done for 4.1.2.

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Which source files in release?

2016-09-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am trying to select the files that should go in the zip and tar files 
for the source release for 4.1.3.


I did a clean checkout of the 4.1.3 branch, and then deleted the .svn 
directories that I know do not belong in the source release.


The 4.1.2 release includes the following dot files:

./aoo-4.1.2/main/extras/unx/source/kde/applnk/.directory
./aoo-4.1.2/main/vos/docu/.html

The 4.1.3 tree contains those, and the following additional dot files:

./AOO413/main/.hgignore
./AOO413/main/.hgtags
./AOO413/test/testassistant/.classpath
./AOO413/test/testassistant/.project
./AOO413/test/testassistant/.settings
./AOO413/test/testassistant.feature/.project
./AOO413/test/testcommon/.classpath
./AOO413/test/testcommon/.project
./AOO413/test/testgui/.classpath
./AOO413/test/testgui/.project
./AOO413/test/testgui/.settings
./AOO413/test/testuno/.classpath_linux
./AOO413/test/testuno/.classpath_win
./AOO413/test/testuno/.externalToolBuilders
./AOO413/test/testuno/.project

The .project and .classpath files may be to do with making it easier to 
set up and run the tests under Eclipse.


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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-30 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release
> manager to decide on them.

If nobody steps in, and/or nobody has any objection, you can count with
me.


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Re: Add This Feature to Writer ASAP

2016-09-30 Thread toki
On 30/09/2016 06:09, Kirk Fraser wrote:

> The most needed feature is a book section organizer like Scrivner which has

Organon

jonathon

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