Re: svn commit: r1775507 - /openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

2016-12-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Pedro wrote:

Would it be possible to do the same for the Windows OS?


No. Actually, it was discussed years ago (in other circumstances: the 
discussion at the time was that the "soffice" executable belonged to 
OpenOffice and it was inappropriate for different software to use it) 
and the result was that using a different name than "soffice" would 
break compatibility with supposedly many applications that expected to 
call "soffice" to get OpenOffice (or, at this point, an alternative 
application).


I understand that Damjan's patch does not change the name of the 
executable but simply a launcher detail. In this case it wouldn't be an 
issue.


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Re: Serf is outdate

2016-12-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Raphael Bircher wrote:

Apache Serf is outdate in the library. Moast probabily use the serf on
the machine. Bit we should update it on the ext_source list too.


This has been already discussed but there is the problem of yet another 
build system (the newer versions of Serf use Scons). There is a patch 
for it in Bugzilla that we have already discussed in this mailing list 
too; you should be able to find it if you search for "Scons" in the list 
archives, otherwise tell me and I can check.


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Re: svn commit: r1775507 - /openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

2016-12-21 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Pedro,

Just my thought!

+1 if there a no technical reasons against it.

regards, Matthias


Am 21.12.2016 um 20:43 schrieb Pedro:
> Would it be possible to do the same for the Windows OS?
>
> Now that the 8.3 file name limitation is gone (I think...) this would
> be a way to solve incompatibilities on systems also running
> LibreOffice...
>
> Just a thought ;)
>
>
> On 21/12/2016 18:29, Marcus wrote:
>> I wanted to suggest exactly after seeing your previous commit.
>>
>> So, thanks for being faster than me. ;-)
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 12/21/2016 05:58 PM, schrieb dam...@apache.org:
>>> Author: damjan
>>> Date: Wed Dec 21 16:58:47 2016
>>> New Revision: 1775507
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1775507=rev
>>> Log:
>>> Use "OpenOffice" instead of "soffice" as our KDE appName.
>>>
>>> Patch by: pfg
>>> Reviewed by: me
>>>
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>  openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx
>>>
>>> Modified: openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx
>>> URL:
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx?rev=1775507=1775506=1775507=diff
>>> ==
>>>
>>> --- openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx (original)
>>> +++ openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx Wed Dec 21
>>> 16:58:47 2016
>>> @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ void KDEXLib::Init()
>>>   pInputMethod->SetLocale();
>>>   XrmInitialize();
>>>
>>> -KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("soffice",
>>> +KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("OpenOffice",
>>>   "kdelibs4",
>>>   ki18n( "Apache OpenOffice" ),
>>>   "3.4.0",
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Re: svn commit: r1775507 - /openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

2016-12-21 Thread Pedro

Would it be possible to do the same for the Windows OS?

Now that the 8.3 file name limitation is gone (I think...) this would be 
a way to solve incompatibilities on systems also running LibreOffice...


Just a thought ;)


On 21/12/2016 18:29, Marcus wrote:

I wanted to suggest exactly after seeing your previous commit.

So, thanks for being faster than me. ;-)

Marcus



Am 12/21/2016 05:58 PM, schrieb dam...@apache.org:

Author: damjan
Date: Wed Dec 21 16:58:47 2016
New Revision: 1775507

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1775507=rev
Log:
Use "OpenOffice" instead of "soffice" as our KDE appName.

Patch by: pfg
Reviewed by: me


Modified:
 openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

Modified: openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx?rev=1775507=1775506=1775507=diff
== 


--- openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx (original)
+++ openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx Wed Dec 21 
16:58:47 2016

@@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ void KDEXLib::Init()
  pInputMethod->SetLocale();
  XrmInitialize();

-KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("soffice",
+KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("OpenOffice",
  "kdelibs4",
  ki18n( "Apache OpenOffice" ),
  "3.4.0",


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Re: [Homepage] ApacheCon graphic/link in footer.html

2016-12-21 Thread Marcus

Am 12/21/2016 07:51 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 21.12.2016 um 19:34 schrieb Marcus:

Am 12/21/2016 03:45 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:

I have found an older version of footer.html.
In 2014 there was a graphic/link to "ApacheCon Europe" on the left side
of the footer:

   

I would like to re-introduce that with the current graphic/link for
"ApacheCon North America".
The footer would look more "balanced" again and it shows our integration
in the ASF.


after that a lot has happened to the homepage. We now have a special
box to announce events like the ApacheCon on the top. Maybe you
haven't seen the previous one for November.

Furthermore, when you put such eye-catcher int othe footer then IMHO
you are wasting your time as the footer is not always visible (e.g.,
maybe the user has to scroll to see everything).


I have seen it. And I have nothing against a special box. It will be
permanent then?


as long as the switch is set to "true". One day I will implement a date 
check to enable and disable the box depending on the date.



I would only waste a couple of minutes. ;-)
And something has to be done with the footer, it looks terrible on wide
screen displays.


Of course you can integrate it in the footer, too. But it's then double 
and I think it's looking unnecessary or even stupid.


Marcus


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Re: [Homepage] ApacheCon graphic/link in footer.html

2016-12-21 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 21.12.2016 um 19:34 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 12/21/2016 03:45 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> I have found an older version of footer.html.
>> In 2014 there was a graphic/link to "ApacheCon Europe" on the left side
>> of the footer:
>>
>>   
>>
>> I would like to re-introduce that with the current graphic/link for
>> "ApacheCon North America".
>> The footer would look more "balanced" again and it shows our integration
>> in the ASF.
>
> after that a lot has happened to the homepage. We now have a special
> box to announce events like the ApacheCon on the top. Maybe you
> haven't seen the previous one for November.
>
> Furthermore, when you put such eye-catcher int othe footer then IMHO
> you are wasting your time as the footer is not always visible (e.g.,
> maybe the user has to scroll to see everything).

I have seen it. And I have nothing against a special box. It will be
permanent then?

I would only waste a couple of minutes. ;-)
And something has to be done with the footer, it looks terrible on wide
screen displays.

>
>> If no-one objects within three days, I'll assume lazy consensus and will
>> begin with the work after Christmas. ;-)
>
> Sorry, yes. ;-)
>
> In this case I'm already working on a new graphic + text for the new box.
>
> Marcus

As you like...
More spare time for me! ;-)

regards, Matthias

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Re: svn commit: r1775507 - /openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

2016-12-21 Thread Marcus

Am 12/21/2016 07:34 PM, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Pleasure ;-)

You use KDE too?


unfortunately, not. My last time was with SuSE 6 or 7.
Since then I'm working on ReadHat-based systems and Gnome.

Marcus




On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Marcus  wrote:

I wanted to suggest exactly after seeing your previous commit.

So, thanks for being faster than me. ;-)

Marcus



Am 12/21/2016 05:58 PM, schrieb dam...@apache.org:


Author: damjan
Date: Wed Dec 21 16:58:47 2016
New Revision: 1775507

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1775507=rev
Log:
Use "OpenOffice" instead of "soffice" as our KDE appName.

Patch by: pfg
Reviewed by: me


Modified:
  openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

Modified: openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx?rev=1775507=1775506=1775507=diff

==
--- openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx (original)
+++ openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx Wed Dec 21 16:58:47
2016
@@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ void KDEXLib::Init()
 pInputMethod->SetLocale();
 XrmInitialize();

-   KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("soffice",
+   KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("OpenOffice",
 "kdelibs4",
 ki18n( "Apache OpenOffice" ),
 "3.4.0",


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Re: [Homepage] ApacheCon graphic/link in footer.html

2016-12-21 Thread Marcus

Am 12/21/2016 03:45 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:

I have found an older version of footer.html.
In 2014 there was a graphic/link to "ApacheCon Europe" on the left side
of the footer:

  

I would like to re-introduce that with the current graphic/link for
"ApacheCon North America".
The footer would look more "balanced" again and it shows our integration
in the ASF.


after that a lot has happened to the homepage. We now have a special box 
to announce events like the ApacheCon on the top. Maybe you haven't seen 
the previous one for November.


Furthermore, when you put such eye-catcher int othe footer then IMHO you 
are wasting your time as the footer is not always visible (e.g., maybe 
the user has to scroll to see everything).



If no-one objects within three days, I'll assume lazy consensus and will
begin with the work after Christmas. ;-)


Sorry, yes. ;-)

In this case I'm already working on a new graphic + text for the new box.

Marcus


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Re: svn commit: r1775507 - /openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

2016-12-21 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Pleasure ;-)

You use KDE too?

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> I wanted to suggest exactly after seeing your previous commit.
>
> So, thanks for being faster than me. ;-)
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 12/21/2016 05:58 PM, schrieb dam...@apache.org:
>>
>> Author: damjan
>> Date: Wed Dec 21 16:58:47 2016
>> New Revision: 1775507
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1775507=rev
>> Log:
>> Use "OpenOffice" instead of "soffice" as our KDE appName.
>>
>> Patch by: pfg
>> Reviewed by: me
>>
>>
>> Modified:
>>  openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx
>>
>> Modified: openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx
>> URL:
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx?rev=1775507=1775506=1775507=diff
>>
>> ==
>> --- openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx (original)
>> +++ openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx Wed Dec 21 16:58:47
>> 2016
>> @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ void KDEXLib::Init()
>> pInputMethod->SetLocale();
>> XrmInitialize();
>>
>> -   KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("soffice",
>> +   KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("OpenOffice",
>> "kdelibs4",
>> ki18n( "Apache OpenOffice" ),
>> "3.4.0",
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Re: svn commit: r1775507 - /openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

2016-12-21 Thread Marcus

I wanted to suggest exactly after seeing your previous commit.

So, thanks for being faster than me. ;-)

Marcus



Am 12/21/2016 05:58 PM, schrieb dam...@apache.org:

Author: damjan
Date: Wed Dec 21 16:58:47 2016
New Revision: 1775507

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1775507=rev
Log:
Use "OpenOffice" instead of "soffice" as our KDE appName.

Patch by: pfg
Reviewed by: me


Modified:
 openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx

Modified: openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx?rev=1775507=1775506=1775507=diff
==
--- openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx (original)
+++ openoffice/trunk/main/vcl/unx/kde4/KDEXLib.cxx Wed Dec 21 16:58:47 2016
@@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ void KDEXLib::Init()
pInputMethod->SetLocale();
XrmInitialize();

-   KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("soffice",
+   KAboutData *kAboutData = new KAboutData("OpenOffice",
"kdelibs4",
ki18n( "Apache OpenOffice" ),
"3.4.0",


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Re: Added the new ASF logo to the install files

2016-12-21 Thread Marcus

Am 12/21/2016 03:02 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher:


Hi Matthias

Am 12/21/2016 um 1:14 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Raphael,

Looks good!
Did you create a bugzilla issue for that?

yea. https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253


I would then ask for release_blocker_4.1.4...

You realy think, it is a blocker? Ok, the changes ar more then trivial.
but I don't think, it's a blocker. But anyway, we can take over it on
the 4.1.4 Branch anyway. Actualy it's only in the trunk.


Of course it's not a real blocker. However, the ASF has changed its 
logo(s) since a few month, we don't know when 4.2.0 is really coming and 
it's just a few graphic files. So, I don#t see a risk for the builds.


+1 for blocker

Marcus

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Reproducible builds ...

2016-12-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello;

It would be important to work on Reproducible builds:

https://reproducible-builds.org/

The first issue to be resolved is that the executable should NOT carry 
the date it was built. We could carry the SVN revision value instead.


Perhaps someone may be interested in hunting down here the date is 
introduced in the "About" box?


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Re: OpenOffice on KDE 4 issues

2016-12-21 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
You can try it with --enable-kde4

Is that CWS under the ASLv2?

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:
> Hello;
>
> Interesting (I use KDE but have never enabled the KDE option).
>
> FWIW, there is/was a KDE4 CWS in the archive:
>
> https://bitbucket.org/mst/ooo340/branch/default?head=4cb6c97c0ec77613a9501fca04793f23a982adbb
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: OpenOffice on KDE 4 issues

2016-12-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello;

Interesting (I use KDE but have never enabled the KDE option).

FWIW, there is/was a KDE4 CWS in the archive:

https://bitbucket.org/mst/ooo340/branch/default?head=4cb6c97c0ec77613a9501fca04793f23a982adbb

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Serf is outdate

2016-12-21 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi at all

Apache Serf is outdate in the library. Moast probabily use the serf on 
the machine. Bit we should update it on the ext_source list too.


Regards, Raphael


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Re: Community shirts for FOSDEM

2016-12-21 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 21.12.2016 um 14:44 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> cool! I gladly take one if you have them.
> I need a XL size. If you have one for those I take one. :)
> Also do you get any money for the shirt?
> 
It is not a shirt - it is just a button. We got the buttons from the
ASF, They used them at CONs.

The buttons are all the same size.

Regards
Michael





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[Homepage] ApacheCon graphic/link in footer.html

2016-12-21 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hello all,

I have found an older version of footer.html.
In 2014 there was a graphic/link to "ApacheCon Europe" on the left side
of the footer:

 

I would like to re-introduce that with the current graphic/link for
"ApacheCon North America".
The footer would look more "balanced" again and it shows our integration
in the ASF.

If no-one objects within three days, I'll assume lazy consensus and will
begin with the work after Christmas. ;-)

regards, Matthias





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Re: Added the new ASF logo to the install files

2016-12-21 Thread Raphael Bircher


Hi Matthias

Am 12/21/2016 um 1:14 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Raphael,

Looks good!
Did you create a bugzilla issue for that?

yea. https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253


I would then ask for release_blocker_4.1.4...
You realy think, it is a blocker? Ok, the changes ar more then trivial. 
but I don't think, it's a blocker. But anyway, we can take over it on 
the 4.1.4 Branch anyway. Actualy it's only in the trunk.


Regards, Raphael


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Re: Community shirts for FOSDEM

2016-12-21 Thread Peter Kovacs
cool! I gladly take one if you have them.
I need a XL size. If you have one for those I take one. :)
Also do you get any money for the shirt?

Looking forward to the revent.

All the best
Peter

2016-12-20 19:30 GMT+01:00 Mechtilde :

> Hello Peter,
>
> Michaela, Michael and I (Mechtilde) will wear the "Ask-Me-"Bauuton with
> the old Apache feather. I think we have enough for other people of the
> Apache community.
>
> You will meet us at the booth (Apache software foundation and Apache
> OpenOffice).
>
> Kind regards
>
> Mechtilde
>
> Am 20.12.2016 um 10:47 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Not sure if this has been already asked.
> > But do we have some Apache OpenOffice shirts, sleeve or something to wear
> > on FFOSDEM?
> >
> > Propagating my opinion is usually not my thing, but it makes it easier to
> > connect our community there.
> > At least that's my thinking.
> >
> > If not I would like to create a fosdem shirt so people recognise me.
> >
> > All the best
> > Peter
> >
>
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Re: Added the new ASF logo to the install files

2016-12-21 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Raphael,

Looks good!
Did you create a bugzilla issue for that?

I would then ask for release_blocker_4.1.4...

regards, Matthias


Am 18.12.2016 um 02:25 schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Hi all
>
> I've added the new ASF Logo to the Installer bitmap. I committed it as
> r1774839. I hope I forgot no one. If there is something wrong, I'm the
> person to hit. ;-)
>
> Regards, Raphael
>
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