Re: English Students for dicumentation

[Peter Kovacs]

> Peter;
Hi Keith,
> The status of our documentation is the same as it has been for at
> least
> the last 3 years; at a standstill. We do not have people that are
> willing to shepherd the documentation, are willing to work on the
> mwiki
> and have the knowledge of technical writing to mentor the occasional
> volunteers we get that need a lot of hand holding to get started.
I had hoped the situation is a little better on @doc. However, I
expected an answer like this.
> 
> From my reading of professor Famiglietti's e-mail on doc@ I am unsure
> whether what he is suggesting would be of help or not. I have tried 3
> or
> 4 different times to get the documentation sub-project active and
> working with no success and I do not have the energy nor the
> inclination
> to beat my head against that brick wall again.
Well, I think the Idea of Professor Famiglietti is a great opportunity.
So lets try that. It is definitly worth a shot.

> I will commit to reply to professor Famiglietti on doc@ and explain
> where we are at with the User Guides and what help he thinks he and
> his
> students could provide.
Thanks a lot, for taking care on this opportunity, however the outcome
might be :-)

> 
> Regards
> Keith
All the Best
Peter

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Re: English Students for dicumentation

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 9/15/2017 5:37 AM, Peter kovacs wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> Do we have document work for Students?
> Can someone contact the professor  bellow who has an idea what our status on 
> documentation is?
> 
> All the best
> Peter
> 
> 
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: "Famiglietti, Andrew A" 
> Gesendet: 14. September 2017 16:43:06 MESZ
> An: "recruitm...@openoffice.apache.org" 
> Betreff: Hello!
> 
> Hi Open Office Team,
> 
> 
> I'm an professor in the English Department at West Chester University of 
> Pennsylvania, and I'm planning to use Open Source Software documentation as a 
> "real world" writing task for my Technical Writing Students this semester. I 
> noticed your project was looking for documentation help on github and thought 
> I would reach out. Some things you should know:
> 
> - I'm not going to swamp you with student pull requests. Students will file 
> their drafts with me, first, and then I will pass them on to you only if I 
> think they have a reasonably good end product, and I have an ok from the 
> project
> - At most two or three students might work on a given project
> 
> I was wondering:
> 
> - If you would be interested in seeing the documentation drafts students 
> produce
> - If there was any particular area of documentation you were particularly in 
> need of
> 
> Thanks so much for your time!
> ?
> ---
> Andy Famiglietti, PhD
> Assistant Professor of English, West Chester University
> http://copyvillain.org
> 
Peter;
The status of our documentation is the same as it has been for at least
the last 3 years; at a standstill. We do not have people that are
willing to shepherd the documentation, are willing to work on the mwiki
and have the knowledge of technical writing to mentor the occasional
volunteers we get that need a lot of hand holding to get started.

From my reading of professor Famiglietti's e-mail on doc@ I am unsure
whether what he is suggesting would be of help or not. I have tried 3 or
4 different times to get the documentation sub-project active and
working with no success and I do not have the energy nor the inclination
to beat my head against that brick wall again.

I will commit to reply to professor Famiglietti on doc@ and explain
where we are at with the User Guides and what help he thinks he and his
students could provide.

Regards
Keith





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English Students for dicumentation

[Peter kovacs]

Hi all!

Do we have document work for Students?
Can someone contact the professor  bellow who has an idea what our status on 
documentation is?

All the best
Peter


 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: "Famiglietti, Andrew A" 
Gesendet: 14. September 2017 16:43:06 MESZ
An: "recruitm...@openoffice.apache.org" 
Betreff: Hello!

Hi Open Office Team,


I'm an professor in the English Department at West Chester University of 
Pennsylvania, and I'm planning to use Open Source Software documentation as a 
"real world" writing task for my Technical Writing Students this semester. I 
noticed your project was looking for documentation help on github and thought I 
would reach out. Some things you should know:

- I'm not going to swamp you with student pull requests. Students will file 
their drafts with me, first, and then I will pass them on to you only if I 
think they have a reasonably good end product, and I have an ok from the project
- At most two or three students might work on a given project

I was wondering:

- If you would be interested in seeing the documentation drafts students produce
- If there was any particular area of documentation you were particularly in 
need of

Thanks so much for your time!
?
---
Andy Famiglietti, PhD
Assistant Professor of English, West Chester University
http://copyvillain.org

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Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

[Peter Kovacs]

+1 in the release First Switch After.

Am 15. September 2017 04:51:29 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher :
>We must not block 4.1.4. We must release soon.
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>wrote:
>> 
>> The process is, we vote, then get Infra to switch us.
>> 
>> Many big and small Apache projects have switched to Git, eg. Apache
>Commons.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Patricia Shanahan 
>wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like to add one more condition: We should not move until the
>>> process we will use has been applied successfully to smaller
>projects.
>>> 
>>> I am relatively neutral on the choice of repository, and a lot of
>people
>>> seem to like Git.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/14/2017 11:16 AM, Marcus wrote:
 
 Even when I'm not a real developer, please let me add some points:
 
 IMHO we could switch when
 
 - ASF Infra can and will support it
 - the CMS (it manages the webpages) is supporting Git
 - the big majority of us is wanting Git
 - it is known how and save that the SVN commit history can be
>migrated
   to Git
 
 PS:
 As Apache project the code has to be at the ASF. I think it's not
 possible to store it somewhere else like, e.g., GitHub.
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
> Am 14.09.2017 um 19:24 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> 
> 
>> On 14.09.2017 13:10, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Can we please switch to using Git instead of Subversion for AOO's
>> source?
>> 
>> I don't know how much justification you want/need. Git is huge
>nowdays,
>> by
>> far the most popular VCS worldwide, the one most developers know
>and
>> IDEs
>> support
>(https://rhodecode.com/insights/version-control-systems-2016).
>> It
>> would help us with local branches for testing and experimenting
>offline,
>> git bisect for regression testing, it's efficient with large
>projects,
>> it
>> would integrate with GitHub better, etc.
>> 
>> What do people think?
>> 
>> Damjan
>> 
>> As much as I prefer GIT for Codemaintenance, I think the central
>REPO
> should be maintained by Apache Infra.
> If Infra can move to git, fine. If they do not support it, it is
>also
> fine to me.
> 
> I am at -1 to have our official REPO on GITHUB or another service
> provider.
> 
> And I am not sure if we can not work around the problem to commit
>to SVN
> from a GIT repo.
> Have to check.
> 
> 
> All the best
> Peter
> 
 
 

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