Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On Oct 20, 2017 12:20 PM, "Marcus"  wrote:

Dear OpenOffice community,

we want to share with you the quoted mail from below:
Yesterday the new Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 was released.

(due to busy work and technical difficulties I wasn't able to write this in
time, please don't hold it against me that this comes with one day delay)

That the new release has happened is the merit of many, many people. We
cannot and won't call single names but want to say a big

Thank You :-)

to all who have helped, tested, hacked, discussed or were otherwise
involved and have invested many hours of their spare time.

Please keep up this drive and go with us into a new round for the next
release.

PS:
We should work hard to leave the 4.1.x release line and enter the next
level.


+1. Definitely!

Kay Schenk

Marcus
(on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)



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19 October 2017 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office
document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4, now
available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 is a maintenance release incorporating important
bug fixes, security fixes, updated dictionaries, and build fixes. All users
of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 or earlier are advised to upgrade.

The main changes include:
* Several updates for language dictionaries
* Some translation fixes in the UI
* Bug fixes
* Security improvements
* Updated graphics/logos (new Apache feather)
* Enhancements to the build tools (for developers)

For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-414changes

Full version of this announcement:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-414announcement

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 Release Notes:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-414releasenotes

Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 from the original source only:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Follow Apache OpenOffice:
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Pedro Lino

> 
> > > I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our 
> public perception in the future.
> > 
> > Especially in Germany there are a lot of articles in which AOO is 
> > poorly presented, currently e. g:
> > http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/25256/openoffice-414-freigegeben.html
> > 
> > > "Haters gonna hate..."
> 

+1

Yes, development is slow. Yes, it would be great if there were more developers. 
And yet AOO does not move forward when regressions are found. From my 
perspective that is important. But most importantly, I'm glad that there isn't 
only one office suite that supports ODF. Diversity is good ;)

Just my 2 cents.


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Matthias Seidel


Am 20.10.2017 um 22:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> Hello,
>
>> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
>> Dear OpenOffice community,
>> [...]
> Thanks for the information.
>
> I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our public 
> perception in the future.
>
> Especially in Germany there are a lot of articles in which AOO is poorly 
> presented, currently e. g:
> http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/25256/openoffice-414-freigegeben.html

"Haters gonna hate..."

Matthias

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> Jörg
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello,

> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 

> Dear OpenOffice community,
> [...]

Thanks for the information.

I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our public perception 
in the future.

Especially in Germany there are a lot of articles in which AOO is poorly 
presented, currently e. g:
http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/25256/openoffice-414-freigegeben.html



Jörg


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Re: Open XML Filter

2017-10-20 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi all.

Am .10.2017, 17:16 Uhr, schrieb Dave Fisher :


Hi Damhan,

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 20, 2017, at 12:21 AM, Damjan Jovanovic   
wrote:


I've looked at Apache POI before and even wrote a minimal filter that  
saves

text cells in Calc to XLSX, see my email on 22 December 2015.

Reading OOXML in Apache POI is problematic, we would have to build the
document tree twice, first in POI, then in AOO, as a SAX-like API is not
supported, so memory usage would double, and large documents would be
problematic. Writing is better, in that there is a streaming API that
doesn't use a lot of memory, but formulas might be a problem. I had more
practical issues in cell iteration APIs I needed that were not exported
over UNO.


There are efforts to reduce the memory requirements in POI on the read  
side. There is a lot of cross development between Tika and POI. Tika has  
a huge regression set of documents it knows about on the web.




Could we get any funding for better OOXML suport?


Raphael?


We are not in the position to put money into the project. However, we can  
Collect money for this project, and pay developers. That should be  
possible. We also willing to invest some menpower.


Regards, Raphael


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Re: Where is http://www.openoffice.org/de/dev/pre_submission_de.html ?

2017-10-20 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 20.10.2017 um 21:13 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> Hello, 
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] 
>> The page is now online...
> thank you
>
>> I found several problems, but together we can surely update 
>> the page to
>> be functional again.
> Please can we discuss the next steps on dev...@openoffice.apache.org?

Sure!

> I will try to work on the website on Saturday or Sunday and will open a 
> thread on dev...@openoffice.apache.org.

That is a good plan!

Matthias

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Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Marcus

Dear OpenOffice community,

we want to share with you the quoted mail from below:
Yesterday the new Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 was released.

(due to busy work and technical difficulties I wasn't able to write this 
in time, please don't hold it against me that this comes with one day delay)


That the new release has happened is the merit of many, many people. We 
cannot and won't call single names but want to say a big


Thank You :-)

to all who have helped, tested, hacked, discussed or were otherwise 
involved and have invested many hours of their spare time.


Please keep up this drive and go with us into a new round for the next 
release.


PS:
We should work hard to leave the 4.1.x release line and enter the next 
level.


Marcus
(on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)



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Datum: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 21:44:13 +0200
Von: Marcus 
Antwort an: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
An: annou...@openoffice.apache.org

19 October 2017 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office 
document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4, 
now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.


Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 is a maintenance release incorporating important 
bug fixes, security fixes, updated dictionaries, and build fixes. All 
users of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 or earlier are advised to upgrade.


The main changes include:
* Several updates for language dictionaries
* Some translation fixes in the UI
* Bug fixes
* Security improvements
* Updated graphics/logos (new Apache feather)
* Enhancements to the build tools (for developers)

For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-414changes

Full version of this announcement:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-414announcement

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 Release Notes:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-414releasenotes

Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 from the original source only:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Follow Apache OpenOffice:
Twitter   https://twitter.com/apacheoo
Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO
Google+   https://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668/posts
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Re: Where is http://www.openoffice.org/de/dev/pre_submission_de.html ?

2017-10-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] 

> The page is now online...

thank you

> I found several problems, but together we can surely update 
> the page to
> be functional again.

Please can we discuss the next steps on dev...@openoffice.apache.org?

I will try to work on the website on Saturday or Sunday and will open a thread 
on dev...@openoffice.apache.org.



Jörg


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Funds for Re: Open XML Filter

2017-10-20 Thread Peter kovacs
@Andrea you said if we want to do something we should reach out. So I think 
this might be a thing:

How about creating a project plan, estimates for a budget and then start a 
campaign?

We could also check if we can staff the team introducing the people to 
interested financiers.
Which dev would be interested in general?

All the best
Peter

Am 20. Oktober 2017 17:16:59 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher :
>Hi Damhan,
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 12:21 AM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>wrote:
>> 
>> I've looked at Apache POI before and even wrote a minimal filter that
>saves
>> text cells in Calc to XLSX, see my email on 22 December 2015.
>> 
>> Reading OOXML in Apache POI is problematic, we would have to build
>the
>> document tree twice, first in POI, then in AOO, as a SAX-like API is
>not
>> supported, so memory usage would double, and large documents would be
>> problematic. Writing is better, in that there is a streaming API that
>> doesn't use a lot of memory, but formulas might be a problem. I had
>more
>> practical issues in cell iteration APIs I needed that were not
>exported
>> over UNO.
>
>There are efforts to reduce the memory requirements in POI on the read
>side. There is a lot of cross development between Tika and POI. Tika
>has a huge regression set of documents it knows about on the web.
>
>> 
>> Could we get any funding for better OOXML suport?
>
>Raphael?
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
>
>> 
>> Damjan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter kovacs 
>wrote:
>>> 
>>> During Apache POI is a cool idea. I will have a look at the weekend.
>I am
>>> in general interested in improving OOXML but I am still very slow in
>>> getting towards dev productivity. ( today is my certificate exam in
>ab
>>> initio, when I pass openoffice can move up my priority list again.
>YAY!)
>>> 
>>> Raphael if you are evaluating headless servers, have you tried to
>set one
>>> up ?
>>> Can you do that, and check if the office process crashes at 100% cpu
>after
>>> transformation?
>>> Or write a guide how to setup a server?. I did not manage and I
>would like
>>> to get a bug report in that area tested.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 20. Oktober 2017 04:59:33 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher <
>>> dave2w...@comcast.net>:
 Hi Raphael,
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 7:50 PM, Raphael Bircher
  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
> Am .10.2017, 04:20 Uhr, schrieb Dave Fisher
>:
> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> If we can use Java then Apache POI has OOXML support.
> 
> You mean, use POI as a library in Apache OpenOffice?
 
 Yes.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
> 
> Regards, Raphael
> 
> 
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Re: Open XML Filter

2017-10-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Damhan,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2017, at 12:21 AM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
> 
> I've looked at Apache POI before and even wrote a minimal filter that saves
> text cells in Calc to XLSX, see my email on 22 December 2015.
> 
> Reading OOXML in Apache POI is problematic, we would have to build the
> document tree twice, first in POI, then in AOO, as a SAX-like API is not
> supported, so memory usage would double, and large documents would be
> problematic. Writing is better, in that there is a streaming API that
> doesn't use a lot of memory, but formulas might be a problem. I had more
> practical issues in cell iteration APIs I needed that were not exported
> over UNO.

There are efforts to reduce the memory requirements in POI on the read side. 
There is a lot of cross development between Tika and POI. Tika has a huge 
regression set of documents it knows about on the web.

> 
> Could we get any funding for better OOXML suport?

Raphael?

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Damjan
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:
>> 
>> During Apache POI is a cool idea. I will have a look at the weekend. I am
>> in general interested in improving OOXML but I am still very slow in
>> getting towards dev productivity. ( today is my certificate exam in ab
>> initio, when I pass openoffice can move up my priority list again. YAY!)
>> 
>> Raphael if you are evaluating headless servers, have you tried to set one
>> up ?
>> Can you do that, and check if the office process crashes at 100% cpu after
>> transformation?
>> Or write a guide how to setup a server?. I did not manage and I would like
>> to get a bug report in that area tested.
>> 
>> 
>> Am 20. Oktober 2017 04:59:33 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher <
>> dave2w...@comcast.net>:
>>> Hi Raphael,
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 19, 2017, at 7:50 PM, Raphael Bircher
>>>  wrote:
 
 Hi Dave
 
 Am .10.2017, 04:20 Uhr, schrieb Dave Fisher :
 
> Hi -
> 
> If we can use Java then Apache POI has OOXML support.
 
 You mean, use POI as a library in Apache OpenOffice?
>>> 
>>> Yes.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
 
 Regards, Raphael
 
 
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dmake and epm

2017-10-20 Thread Jim Jagielski
Just a FYI that I am tracking dmake and epm on the
below Github pages:

   o https://github.com/jimjag/epm
   o https://github.com/jimjag/dmake

I know we are moving away from dmake, but IMO it'll take
some time for that to be complete. Plus, updating to the
latest version of EPM is useful (it's the ONLY way to build
the macOS versions now, for example), but we also need
the AOO-specific patches in there. Which are included
in my forks.

Just topic for discussion and chewing over

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Re: Building Guides

2017-10-20 Thread Jim Jagielski

> On Oct 20, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> Gavin McDonald wrote:
>>> On 20 Oct 2017, at 9:40 am, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> There are no build instructions on the CWiki and there shouldn't be a copy 
>>> there.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
> 
> Bad. I haven't removed that section of the page since I see it was updated 
> just a few months ago, but the scripts in devtools should be the only 
> maintained resource and instructions on that page should just point there.
> 

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Re: Building Guides

2017-10-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Gavin McDonald wrote:

On 20 Oct 2017, at 9:40 am, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
There are no build instructions on the CWiki and there shouldn't be a copy 
there.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds


Bad. I haven't removed that section of the page since I see it was 
updated just a few months ago, but the scripts in devtools should be the 
only maintained resource and instructions on that page should just point 
there.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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