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2017-12-30 Thread Jan-Christian Wienandt 
Moin,

 

Version 4.1.5 ist veröffentlicht!!

 

Guten Rutsch!!

Gesundheit und Glück für 2018.

 

Gruß

Jan

Re: Starting the 4.2.0 localization

2017-12-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti 
Further updates, with some numbers based on Portuguese (one of the 
several languages that are reported as 100% complete in Pootle).


The question to answer is "What state of the code does Pootle reflect?".

If I generate the en-US.sdf template from each code version and I check 
how many strings differ when merging pt translations from Pootle, we have:


- trunk: 387 different strings
- branch AOO415: 97 different strings
- tag AOO401: 170 different strings

(note for building AOO401 in case someone really wishes to do so: pay 
attention to warnings at the bootstrap step, since we were using Google 
Code at the time and it is no longer available; use SourceForge to 
download the missing dependencies).


So the result is: what we have in Pootle now is closer to the 4.1.x 
series than 4.0.x or trunk, but it is not even perfectly aligned to 4.1.5.


If we found a perfect match with 4.1.0 or 4.1.1, we could create a 
branch and import all Pootle contents there. Thus we could produce (or 
let the buildbots produce) "vintage" versions that perfectly match 
Pootle. Of course they would be useless to users and meant just for 
translators to quickly check that their work is complete, before moving 
on to updating Pootle with trunk strings.


As for the other front: I've tested the import from Pootle, but we are 
not there yet. Portuguese translators provided examples of recently 
changed strings in Pootle (in form controls) to check. But unfortunately 
it seems that their strings in Pootle are not all well-formed.


This still requires a lot of manual work since Pootle does not detect 
malformed HTML errors. We have a tool named gsicheck that can do some 
basic checks, but we will need to get to a state where a language in 
Pootle is 100% translated and error-free in order to test a full import.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Il 30/12/2017 00:42, Andrea Pescetti ha scritto:

Some further notes (then someone else may want to reorganize this, but
for the moment I'm just collecting them):

- The problem (not a problem actually; just the need to translate some
hundreds strings again) I had empirically found for Italian indeed
affects all languages. If you download a non-English build from
https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/ or
https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/win/ create a new
Impress document and right-click on the slide you will see the context
menu in English. Example for German:
https://s13.postimg.org/4acjbnr3b/screen.png

- Of course, any manual SDF file changes done in the past will be lost.
We can at most create a diff for people to review. But it's clear that
when somebody edits a file that contains a 10 lines tall "DO NOT EDIT"
notice (and I did it too! but it was a Pootle backport, as in many other
cases) then he should accept the risk.

- Due to the manual fixes above, SDF files in the AOO415 branch are at
times different from those in trunk. We can ignore this: manual changes
will be lost anyway, and people who edited the "DO NOT EDIT" files knew
what they were doing and will redo the work properly if needed.

- I've started testing the other part, since in the end this is what we
must do first: importing translations from Pootle to SDF files, in order
to preserve as much as possible what translators did. This is a heavily
manual process. The basic steps work:
1. Export PO files from Pootle (for this first test I used the UI, but
one can use the command-line too); both UI and help; then expand in the
same directory "it"
2. Generate the en-US template: in main/, "localize -e -l en-US -f
/path/to/en-US.sdf"
3. Generate the new SDF file for Italian:
po2oo -l it -t en-US.sdf --keeptimestamp --skipsource it new_it.sdf

This produces a bunch of warnings. I think most of them are due to the
fact that the strings in the AOO415 branch and trunk are simply different.

Next tests (for me or for anyone else who wants to try) would be:
1. Run the same process (2 and 3) on AOO415 and see if the match is
perfect there (no warnings)
2. Build both AOO415 and trunk with the new SDF file and see if
translations from Pootle are picked up properly.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Il 28/12/2017 00:39, Andrea Pescetti ha scritto:

Just a few notes on what I've found so far about the 4.2.0 localization,
in case others (like Keith, who wrote he is interested) want to follow
and/or proceed.

Of course, you will need:

1. A full checkout of trunk; I believe some of the tools are built
during the build process, but I'm using a fully built tree anyway.

2. Good knowledge of another language than English (I use Italian).

The wiki contains instructions for several generations of tools (past,
present and even future - but let's fix the current tools before passing
to the new ones that were promising but were never used in production).
The current process is at
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers

An Italian build of trunk looks quite broken. For example: create a new
blank Impress

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released

2017-12-30 Thread Kay Schenk 
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Marcus  wrote:

> Hello OpenOffice community,
>
> before the year really draws to a close, we want to share with you the
> announcement below.
>
> We are already working on the next bigger release, even when it's not very
> visible. But this will change in the next months.
>
> Also we want to thank you for the past year and hope to see you all in
> 2018.
>
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
>

​Thanks for the nice New Year's present!
​


>
>
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> Datum: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:20:29 +0100
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> Antwort an: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
> An: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
> 30 December 2017 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office
> document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5, now
> available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 is a maintenance release aimed at correcting some
> regressions and delivering the latest English dictionary. All users of
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 or earlier are advised to upgrade.
>
> The main changes include:
> * Bug fixes
> * Updates for the English language dictionaries
>
> For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415changes
>
> Full version of this announcement:
> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415announcement
>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 Release Notes:
> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415releasenotes
>
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Re: New look for Start Center

2017-12-30 Thread Marcus 

Am 30.12.2017 um 19:11 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 30.12.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Marcus:

Am 30.12.2017 um 16:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

I just committed some new graphics for the Start Center:
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1819607

This step completes the integration of the new ASF logo and gives a
"fresh" look for 4.2.0.

Of course, further improvements can always be discussed. ;-)


great. Is there a screenshot for a quick look?


https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/Start%20Center%20+%20ASF%20logo.png

The Start Center itself is a combination of three images...


looks good. Also the horizontal grey line fits well into the picture.

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Re: New look for Start Center

2017-12-30 Thread Matthias Seidel 
Am 30.12.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 30.12.2017 um 16:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> I just committed some new graphics for the Start Center:
>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1819607
>>
>> This step completes the integration of the new ASF logo and gives a
>> "fresh" look for 4.2.0.
>>
>> Of course, further improvements can always be discussed. ;-)
>
> great. Is there a screenshot for a quick look?

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/Start%20Center%20+%20ASF%20logo.png

The Start Center itself is a combination of three images...

Matthias

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Re: New look for Start Center

2017-12-30 Thread Marcus 

Am 30.12.2017 um 16:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

I just committed some new graphics for the Start Center:
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1819607

This step completes the integration of the new ASF logo and gives a
"fresh" look for 4.2.0.

Of course, further improvements can always be discussed. ;-)


great. Is there a screenshot for a quick look?

Thanks

Marcus


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released

2017-12-30 Thread Mechtilde 
Thank you to you all and a good way into 2018

Mechtilde

Am 30.12.2017 um 18:59 schrieb FR web forum:
> Good job
> Thanks to have updated french webpages :-)
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Marcus" 
>> À: "dev@" 
>> Envoyé: Samedi 30 Décembre 2017 17:31:47
>> Objet: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released
>>
>> Hello OpenOffice community,
>>
>> before the year really draws to a close, we want to share with you
>> the
>> announcement below.
>>
>> We are already working on the next bigger release, even when it's not
>> very visible. But this will change in the next months.
>>
>> Also we want to thank you for the past year and hope to see you all
>> in 2018.
>>
>> Marcus
>> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
>>
>>
>>
>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>> Betreff: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released
>> Datum: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:20:29 +0100
>> Von: Marcus 
>> Antwort an: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
>> An: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>> 30 December 2017 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office
>> document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5,
>> now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
>>
>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 is a maintenance release aimed at correcting
>> some regressions and delivering the latest English dictionary. All
>> users
>> of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 or earlier are advised to upgrade.
>>
>> The main changes include:
>> * Bug fixes
>> * Updates for the English language dictionaries
>>
>> For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
>> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415changes
>>
>> Full version of this announcement:
>> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415announcement
>>
>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 Release Notes:
>> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415releasenotes
>>
>> Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 from the original source only:
>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released

2017-12-30 Thread FR web forum 
Good job!
Thanks to have updated french webpages :-)

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> De: "Marcus" 
> À: "dev@" 
> Envoyé: Samedi 30 Décembre 2017 17:31:47
> Objet: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released
> 
> Hello OpenOffice community,
> 
> before the year really draws to a close, we want to share with you
> the
> announcement below.
> 
> We are already working on the next bigger release, even when it's not
> very visible. But this will change in the next months.
> 
> Also we want to thank you for the past year and hope to see you all
> in 2018.
> 
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
> 
> 
> 
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Betreff: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released
> Datum: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:20:29 +0100
> Von: Marcus 
> Antwort an: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
> An: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
> 
> 30 December 2017 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office
> document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5,
> now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
> 
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 is a maintenance release aimed at correcting
> some regressions and delivering the latest English dictionary. All
> users
> of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 or earlier are advised to upgrade.
> 
> The main changes include:
> * Bug fixes
> * Updates for the English language dictionaries
> 
> For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415changes
> 
> Full version of this announcement:
> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415announcement
> 
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 Release Notes:
> https://s.apache.org/AOO-415releasenotes
> 
> Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 from the original source only:
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/
> 
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Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released

2017-12-30 Thread Marcus 

Hello OpenOffice community,

before the year really draws to a close, we want to share with you the 
announcement below.


We are already working on the next bigger release, even when it's not 
very visible. But this will change in the next months.


Also we want to thank you for the past year and hope to see you all in 2018.

Marcus
(on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)



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Datum: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:20:29 +0100
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Antwort an: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
An: annou...@openoffice.apache.org

30 December 2017 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office 
document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5, 
now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.


Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 is a maintenance release aimed at correcting 
some regressions and delivering the latest English dictionary. All users 
of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 or earlier are advised to upgrade.


The main changes include:
* Bug fixes
* Updates for the English language dictionaries

For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-415changes

Full version of this announcement:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-415announcement

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 Release Notes:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-415releasenotes

Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 from the original source only:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Follow Apache OpenOffice:
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New look for Start Center

2017-12-30 Thread Matthias Seidel 
Hello all,

I just committed some new graphics for the Start Center:
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1819607

This step completes the integration of the new ASF logo and gives a
"fresh" look for 4.2.0.

Of course, further improvements can always be discussed. ;-)

Kind regards, Matthias




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Re: Website outage

2017-12-30 Thread Mechtilde 
Hello,

I had the same problem this morning. Now it is ok.

Kind regards

Mechtilde

Am 30.12.2017 um 14:37 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 30.12.2017 um 14:33 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Am 30.12.2017 um 14:25 schrieb FR web forum:
>>> www.openoffice.org is not responding
>>
>> No problems here...
>>
>> But during the last days I noticed several times, that it took much
>> longer to open the webpage.
>> I thought it was a problem with my ISP.
> 
> also here, no problem.
> 
> Marcus
> 
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Re: Website outage

2017-12-30 Thread Jürgen Lange 

www.openoffice.org is responding.

Jürgen


Am 30.12.2017 um 14:25 schrieb FR web forum:

www.openoffice.org is not responding

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Re: Website outage

2017-12-30 Thread FR web forum 
OK seems to be recovered now

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Re: Website outage

2017-12-30 Thread Marcus 

Am 30.12.2017 um 14:33 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 30.12.2017 um 14:25 schrieb FR web forum:

www.openoffice.org is not responding


No problems here...

But during the last days I noticed several times, that it took much
longer to open the webpage.
I thought it was a problem with my ISP.


also here, no problem.

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Re: Website outage

2017-12-30 Thread Matthias Seidel 
Am 30.12.2017 um 14:25 schrieb FR web forum:
> www.openoffice.org is not responding

No problems here...

But during the last days I noticed several times, that it took much
longer to open the webpage.
I thought it was a problem with my ISP.

Matthias

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Re: Starting the 4.2.0 localization

2017-12-30 Thread FR web forum 


> Impress document and right-click on the slide you will see the
> context menu in English.
I can confirm with French version too

This problem affects all contextual menus for Impress and Draw.

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Re: Starting the 4.2.0 localization

2017-12-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

Pedro Lino wrote:

Hi Andrea, all

Impress document and right-click on the slide you will see the context
menu in English.

Problem confirmed with Portuguese build


Thanks for checking. And actually, as I wrote, I wouldn't consider this 
a problem. Code refactoring caused some strings to be moved and get a 
different identifier in trunk, so the translations for 4.1.5 cannot be 
reused as they are. Of course, it becomes a problem if the Pootle 
strings, imported in the AOO415 branch, still cause the issue; and this 
is the next test.



Apparently AOO 420 is 100% translated to Portuguese on Pootle so it
might be a good test Language.


Ah yes, this is a detail I forgot to write. I've repeatedly written in 
the past that Pootle had the trunk strings and that meant that we 
couldn't import them to any 4.1.x version (due to the issue above). 
Well, this was correct but only in part. The last import of the trunk 
strings into Pootle was done years ago, so (contrary to my expectations) 
Pootle is probably much closer to 4.1.x than to trunk. In other words, 
if a language is 100% translated in Pootle now, we can probably use the 
translation as-is for a 4.1.x release, but not for a trunk (4.2.0) 
release; exactly the opposite of what I expected.



If you can do the build process I would gladly volunteer to check any
binaries for untranslated menus/interfaces  (after New Year obviously ;) ).


I can easily provide Linux builds. But if the above is confirmed by the 
next tests, then we should probably create a temporary branch named 
"AOO41L10N" or similar and point the current AOO415 buildbots (now 
useless) to it. On that branch, we can import strings from Pootle and 
let teams check that the import is correct. Then we can do the real 
work, i.e., port this to trunk (4.2.0) and delete the temporary branch. 
More information after the next tests.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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