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Re: Code signing for Mac

[Stefan Seelmann]

Hi,

maybe have a look at this Jira: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16978

I recently requested an Apple Developer ID for signing Apache Directory Studio, 
which worked :)

Hope that helps,
Stefan

On 2018/09/22 00:03:52, Peter Kovacs  wrote: 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I am currently sorting issues.
> 
> I came across the code signing issue:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125360
> 
> That refers to a Infra ticket that has been closed in 2016 but we closed 
> it in 2014, with a negative solution.
> 
> 
> So since code signing is an issue that pops up now and then, I would 
> like to know if we would like to do for the mac, general speaking?
> 
> If we are at +1, I don't understand why we have this closed.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter
> 
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OpenOffice Status Overview (Kanban like) Board

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,

I have a Point on Interest List on Cwiki (Confluence) [1] where I tried 
to collect all stuff that popped up. Goal was always to have some sort 
of Overview, and not forget stuff. I did not maintain it well, and it 
did not made things easier for me.


I have now moved now to trello [2], in hope it changes my view, and 
simplifies the additional management.


Currently I have mostly link to bugs, that popped up. I have some topics 
we discussed added.


I try to add more informations to the cards. I think it could help to 
add discussions, and Wiki Article and other resources in hope they add a 
better access to what is in our focus. My hope is that the board can be 
establish as advertisement board which can be used to give new comers 
some lead where to dive into.


The board is public, can be found by (google) searches. Currently I 
focus with the board on core "business". So only OpenOffice code related 
stuff is entered. I have not mentioned stuff from our Infrastructure 
topics. I am still trying experimenting and trying out. At the moment I 
prefer trello to Jira, due I do not want to copy a bug tracker. I just 
in need of an overview resource.


The list is still quite incomplete, even on actual activities. I just 
moved more or less the Issues that are piling up.


I invite any OpenOffice Volunteer to join the board on request. This 
should not be mandatory tool set. You can also just post something to 
the dev List. I will try to do the sync.


Hope this is a step in the right direction, from a management direction, 
preserving our DNA and be more accessible for everyone.



All the Best

Peter

[1] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=67633711


[2] https://trello.com/b/KxedeWKD/openoffice-program-status-board


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Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 9/22/2018 11:17 PM, sandro wrote:
> Dear Keith,
> 
> My preferred user name is:
> 
> 1) sandro.suzart or
> 2) sandro_suzart or
> 3) sandro-suzart
> 
> Glad,
> Sandro Suzart
> 
> 
> 
> De: Keith N. McKenna 
> Enviado: sábado, 22 de setembro de 2018 19:48
> Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro
> 
> On 9/22/2018 1:34 PM, sandro wrote:
>> I would like to do an user request. That user request would be to work on 
>> the wiki project, as discussed before in this list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sandro Suzart
>>
>>
>> 
> 
> Sandro;
> 
> Please send your preferred user name as a reply here. We will then
> create your account.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
Sandro;

Your mwiki account sandro.suzart has been created. A temporary password
has been e-mailed to you under separate cover. Please be sure to change
it one first login.

Regards
Keith




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Re: Open Office Build Process

[George K]

Hello Matthias,

As I am unable to find the SDK, would it be possible to send me a copy so I
can get started and build
the project?

After I have successfully build OpenOffice, I will try to investigate
building for newer versions of MSVC.
Additionally, I will start working on a script called build_tools, to start
figuring out how the build environment
can be automated.

Also, it would be nice if someone provided a VDI image of a working build
environment in the Wiki, so new
developers can get up and running with VirtualBox, without the caveats of
the current build environment.

Best regards,
George

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 7:09 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> Hello George,
>
> Am 23.09.2018 um 14:14 schrieb George K:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I 'm currently trying to build Open Office on Windows. I 've setup most
> of
> > the environment but I am having trouble finding the Windows 7.0 SDK,
> witch
> > contains MSVC 2008, as it is unavailable from Microsoft. Peter kindly
> > pointed me at an image of Windows Server 2008 Standard
> > . Should
> I
> > setup a VM with that image, or download Windows 7? I 'm currently trying
> to
> > build on a Windows 10 machine. Any help and directions would be welcome.
>
> I assume you followed the instructions in our Wiki:
>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10
>
> As I learned today "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET
> Framework 3.5. SP1" is no longer supported or downloadable.
> This is a major issue that has to be addressed (and the Wiki should be
> updated).
>
> But to get you started, I can send you a direct link to a copy in my
> Dropbox?
>
> Personally I am building on Windows 10 (64-bit) on VirtualBox. You can
> find all my personal builds here:
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/
>
> Kind regards,
>Matthias
>
>

Re: Open Office Build Process

[Matthias Seidel]

Hello George,

Am 23.09.2018 um 14:14 schrieb George K:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I 'm currently trying to build Open Office on Windows. I 've setup most of
> the environment but I am having trouble finding the Windows 7.0 SDK, witch
> contains MSVC 2008, as it is unavailable from Microsoft. Peter kindly
> pointed me at an image of Windows Server 2008 Standard
> . Should I
> setup a VM with that image, or download Windows 7? I 'm currently trying to
> build on a Windows 10 machine. Any help and directions would be welcome.

I assume you followed the instructions in our Wiki:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10

As I learned today "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET
Framework 3.5. SP1" is no longer supported or downloadable.
This is a major issue that has to be addressed (and the Wiki should be
updated).

But to get you started, I can send you a direct link to a copy in my
Dropbox?

Personally I am building on Windows 10 (64-bit) on VirtualBox. You can
find all my personal builds here:
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/

Kind regards,
   Matthias



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Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

[Peter Kovacs]

Dear Sandro,

Glad to read about your determination. :) Lets get you doing something.

You can send it directly to my address if you like. I personally would 
appreciate if we could store it somewhere more cloudy.


How about google drive or Dropbox. They offer free cloud space. And you 
can setup the space easy.



Yea it is really cool that we are a cloud Project. I think it is great 
that you are with us. Maybe we can make OpenOffice a bit more Cloudy. ;)


All the best

Peter

On 9/22/18 7:32 PM, sandro wrote:

Dear Peter,

It is always amazing to show my commitment and passion for this project, I feel 
that it is so good to build together that it certainly drives all of us to 
happiness.

I just have been looking for sending a work plan to you, as I told in my last 
message. I will ask an user for the wiki project.

Well, I have the wish and I feel that I am plenty able to go on with long term 
perspective with this volunteering. Because since the time schedule is flexible 
and since I can work from anywhere (school, park, home ...) there is probably 
no interference in the activity and I think that nothing will prevent me from 
collaborate. If a have to move to another city, or if I work more in another 
project, I can always collaborate; the only thing that would stop would be 
internet connection ( if I do not have it at home) but it is easy to find free 
wifi anywhere, there are libraries and other buildings that offer internet 
access for free and also a computer to access.

So I will always be here, I just was doing the work plan while handling other 
tasks (such as a university test to September, 24. It is a calculus test, 
macroeconomics test and a management test in the same week... rs). I plan to 
always collaborate with you, always hold hands.

Glad,
Sandro Suzart



De: Peter Kovacs 
Enviado: sábado, 22 de setembro de 2018 01:04
Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

Dear,

Have you asked a user Request? - Use a new thread for that please. -
Hope you are still with us, it would be sad if you already stop.

All the best

Peter

On 9/11/18 5:15 PM, sandro wrote:

Dear,


It is amazing, a really exciting journey that follows the pumps of heart beat 
is a glad and fantastic way, this certainly guides us through patterns of 
satisfaction.


Well, I have posted here a working schedule, also I will post a work plan of 
the WikiProject that I feel that will bring achievements to the page. I will 
upload it here because it helps and guides me for the work, and I can update it 
every 2-3 weeks.


Glad,

Sandro Suzart





De: Andrea Pescetti 
Enviado: segunda-feira, 10 de setembro de 2018 02:08
Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

Peter kovacs wrote:

If you see something on our wiki-pages.
You can decide on yourself. There is no real command structure here.
If you need a user for editing the wiki, just write a request here.

Right. Sandro, if we haven't created a MWiki account for you yet, please
ask here. Otherwise, please give us your username so that we can (if
needed) extend permissions for you in order to be able to do some
configuration tasks.

Regards,
 Andrea.

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Re: Open Office Build Process

[Peter Kovacs]

Here a pointer to the Archives (search for all mails last year) to the 
MSVC topic:


https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@openoffice.apache.org:lte=12M:MSVC

I have found a Wiki resource for the build System (maybe it helps):

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_System_Analysis

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Environment_Effort/New_Build_System_Requirements


I would use Windows 10. If you use a VM or not is more matter of taste.

All the best to the Migration effort!


On 9/23/18 4:12 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Hi George

The build system is particularly difficult to change.

If you look through the mailing list archives, I documented some of my 
experiences with MSVC 14 in a 13 March 2018 email entitled "First 
steps in building with MSVC 14 / Visual Studio 2015". I didn't get 
far. A patch with some of my changes is attached.


Good luck and let us know if (or when ;) you need any help
Damjan

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:14 PM George K > wrote:


Hello everyone,

I 'm currently trying to build Open Office on Windows. I 've setup
most of
the environment but I am having trouble finding the Windows 7.0
SDK, witch
contains MSVC 2008, as it is unavailable from Microsoft. Peter kindly
pointed me at an image of Windows Server 2008 Standard
.
Should I
setup a VM with that image, or download Windows 7? I 'm currently
trying to
build on a Windows 10 machine. Any help and directions would be
welcome.

That said, I would like to contribute to Open Office, by making
the build
process easier and migrating the project for Windows on MSVC 2017.
I have
thought of the following build process:

- Install Visual Studio 2017(All libraries and tools needed would be
provided through the installation)
- Install all other prerequisites using a Windows BATCH
file(Provide a .bat
file for automating installation of Java, Cygwin etc. and setting
up the
modules. Or, if complexity demands it, install python and do all
the above
through it. Optimally, checkout the repo from svn and be ready for
build).
- Build Open Office as usual.

That might be complicated, but I 'm willing to try. I 'm currently
trying
to familiarize my self with the code and I would be grateful if
someone
pointed me to the right direction. Let's keep an open discussion
of Open
Office's build process. Feel free to suggest new things or improve
my own.

Thanks in advance,
George


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Re: Open Office Build Process

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi George

The build system is particularly difficult to change.

If you look through the mailing list archives, I documented some of my
experiences with MSVC 14 in a 13 March 2018 email entitled "First steps in
building with MSVC 14 / Visual Studio 2015". I didn't get far. A patch with
some of my changes is attached.

Good luck and let us know if (or when ;) you need any help
Damjan

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:14 PM George K  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I 'm currently trying to build Open Office on Windows. I 've setup most of
> the environment but I am having trouble finding the Windows 7.0 SDK, witch
> contains MSVC 2008, as it is unavailable from Microsoft. Peter kindly
> pointed me at an image of Windows Server 2008 Standard
> . Should I
> setup a VM with that image, or download Windows 7? I 'm currently trying to
> build on a Windows 10 machine. Any help and directions would be welcome.
>
> That said, I would like to contribute to Open Office, by making the build
> process easier and migrating the project for Windows on MSVC 2017. I have
> thought of the following build process:
>
> - Install Visual Studio 2017(All libraries and tools needed would be
> provided through the installation)
> - Install all other prerequisites using a Windows BATCH file(Provide a .bat
> file for automating installation of Java, Cygwin etc. and setting up the
> modules. Or, if complexity demands it, install python and do all the above
> through it. Optimally, checkout the repo from svn and be ready for build).
> - Build Open Office as usual.
>
> That might be complicated, but I 'm willing to try. I 'm currently trying
> to familiarize my self with the code and I would be grateful if someone
> pointed me to the right direction. Let's keep an open discussion of Open
> Office's build process. Feel free to suggest new things or improve my own.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> George
>
Index: configure.ac
===
--- configure.ac(revision 1828823)
+++ configure.ac(working copy)
@@ -4004,7 +4004,7 @@
AC_MSG_RESULT([external])
AM_PATH_PYTHON([2.7])
 
-   python_include=`$PYTHON -c "import distutils.sysconfig; 
print(distutils.sysconfig.get_config_var('INCLUDEPY'));"`
+   python_include=`$PYTHON -c "import distutils.sysconfig; 
print(distutils.sysconfig.get_config_var('INCLUDEPY'));" | tr -d '\r\n'`
python_version=`$PYTHON -c "import distutils.sysconfig; 
print(distutils.sysconfig.get_config_var('VERSION'));"`
PYTHON_CFLAGS="-I$python_include"
PYTHON_LIBS="-lpython$python_version"
Index: oowintool
===
--- oowintool   (revision 1828823)
+++ oowintool   (working copy)
@@ -207,6 +207,12 @@
 'dll_path' => 'redist/x86/Microsoft.VC90.CRT',
 'dll_suffix' => '90'
 );
+my %msvc_2015 = (
+'ver' => '14.0',
+'key' => 'Microsoft/VisualStudio/14.0/Setup/VC/ProductDir',
+'dll_path' => 'redist/x86/Microsoft.VC140.CRT',
+'dll_suffix' => '140'
+);
 
 sub find_msvs()
 {
@@ -230,7 +236,7 @@
 
 sub find_msvc()
 {
-my @ms_versions = ( \%msvc_2008, \%msvc_express_2008, \%msvc_2005, 
\%msvc_express_2005, \%msvc_net_2003 );
+my @ms_versions = ( \%msvc_2015, \%msvc_2008, \%msvc_express_2008, 
\%msvc_2005, \%msvc_express_2005, \%msvc_net_2003 );
 
 for $ver (@ms_versions)
 {
@@ -351,10 +357,15 @@
  $ver->{'dll_path'});
 
 copy_dll ($srcdir, "msvcp" . $ver->{'dll_suffix'} . ".dll",
- $dest . $ver->{'dll_suffix'});
-copy_dll ($srcdir, "msvcr" . $ver->{'dll_suffix'} . ".dll",
- $dest . $ver->{'dll_suffix'});
-if ($ver->{'dll_suffix'} >= 90) {
+  $dest . $ver->{'dll_suffix'});
+if ($ver->{'dll_suffix'} >= 140) {
+copy_dll ($srcdir, "vcruntime" . $ver->{'dll_suffix'} . ".dll",
+  $dest . $ver->{'dll_suffix'});
+} else {
+copy_dll ($srcdir, "msvcr" . $ver->{'dll_suffix'} . ".dll",
+  $dest . $ver->{'dll_suffix'});
+}
+if (90 <= $ver->{'dll_suffix'} && $ver->{'dll_suffix'} < 140) {
 copy_dll ($srcdir, "msvcm" . $ver->{'dll_suffix'} . ".dll",
   $dest . $ver->{'dll_suffix'});
 copy_dll ($srcdir, "Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manifest", $dest . 
$ver->{'dll_suffix'});
Index: soltools/cpp/_include.c
===
--- soltools/cpp/_include.c (revision 1828823)
+++ soltools/cpp/_include.c (working copy)
@@ -43,6 +43,11 @@
 #endif
 #include 
 
+/* MSVC++ 14 does not have PATH_MAX any more: */
+#if defined(_MSC_VER) && !defined(PATH_MAX)
+#define PATH_MAX 512
+#endif
+
 #include "cpp.h"
 
 Includelist includelist[NINCLUDE];
Index: soltools/cpp/_macro.c
===
--- soltools/cpp/_macro.c   (revision 1828823)
+++ soltools/cpp/_macro.c   (working 

Re: [Call for testing] Linux icons 128x128

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Pedro,

Am 23.09.2018 um 15:28 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias, all
>
>
>> > > 
>>> > Maybe someone can also test it on KDE and on pure Debian?
>
> The new icons are looking perfect under Debian Stretch (9.5) x86 using build 
> AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1841506
> 2018-09-20_22:11:13-Rev.1841519

Thank you for testing!

>
> BTW please someone fix the rev numbers in the Build bots: There are two 
> different values in the same About dialog!

I already explained that to you some time ago?
But I admit, that it can be confusing. ;-)

Regards,
   Matthias

>
>
>> @Peter:
>> What do you think as Release Manager of integrating these icons into 
>> 4.1.6?
>> The optical difference is remarkable...
>>
>
> +1
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Pedro
>




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Re: [Call for testing] Linux icons 128x128

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias, all


> 
> > > 
> > > Maybe someone can also test it on KDE and on pure Debian?
> 


The new icons are looking perfect under Debian Stretch (9.5) x86 using build 
AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1841506
2018-09-20_22:11:13-Rev.1841519

BTW please someone fix the rev numbers in the Build bots: There are two 
different values in the same About dialog!


> @Peter:
> What do you think as Release Manager of integrating these icons into 
> 4.1.6?
> The optical difference is remarkable...
> 


+1


Regards,

Pedro

Open Office Build Process

[George K]

Hello everyone,

I 'm currently trying to build Open Office on Windows. I 've setup most of
the environment but I am having trouble finding the Windows 7.0 SDK, witch
contains MSVC 2008, as it is unavailable from Microsoft. Peter kindly
pointed me at an image of Windows Server 2008 Standard
. Should I
setup a VM with that image, or download Windows 7? I 'm currently trying to
build on a Windows 10 machine. Any help and directions would be welcome.

That said, I would like to contribute to Open Office, by making the build
process easier and migrating the project for Windows on MSVC 2017. I have
thought of the following build process:

- Install Visual Studio 2017(All libraries and tools needed would be
provided through the installation)
- Install all other prerequisites using a Windows BATCH file(Provide a .bat
file for automating installation of Java, Cygwin etc. and setting up the
modules. Or, if complexity demands it, install python and do all the above
through it. Optimally, checkout the repo from svn and be ready for build).
- Build Open Office as usual.

That might be complicated, but I 'm willing to try. I 'm currently trying
to familiarize my self with the code and I would be grateful if someone
pointed me to the right direction. Let's keep an open discussion of Open
Office's build process. Feel free to suggest new things or improve my own.

Thanks in advance,
George

Windows Build Environment futures (was: Open Office Contribution)

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome George!

This sounds like you made up your mind for a long term volunteer 
project, which is awesome.  A big welcome from me. I hope you stay with 
us. Your mail sounds like you do not need much help. The recruitment has 
the Idea to help people to integrate better, by giving them a dedicated 
space to communicate.


Now lets root the discussion in to Dev Mailinglist. Please subscribe 
there. Damjan is our awesome contributer for Windows. If you 2 align 
that would be awesome. Please use the List, so all can participate.


We currently use MSVC 2008 for all releases, Damjan started to migrate 
to MSVC2015. A bigger jump to 2017 is fine for me, but keep in mind that 
we are standard wise behind 10 years the current standard. Especially on 
Linux we support Distributions, that do not have support for c++11. Also 
current conses is to keep Windows XP Compatibility.


At the same time, the migration from Windows 32bit Version to support 
64bit has been started. The build currently breaks somewhere. A 
continuation would be awesome.


And we are moving the build environment from dmake to gmake. There are 
65 modules left. This activity has a huge impact because all platforms 
are effected. And according to Damjan, the low fruits have been already 
migrated, and the ones left are not easy.


@Damjan, you still would like to migrate then to SCON after gmake, btw? 
I would still like to, even I do not count my voice much, because I did 
not drive this topic much. :(


Hope those answer you some of your questions, and loop you in roughly 
where our status is.


You can try Visual Studio version you like. I do not think MSVS supports 
our code. We have some special features build in historically, that are 
used only in the project. And we strongly use multilanguage 
architecture. So bringing the support to Visual Studio will be also not 
easy.


At Least on Eclipse it is very difficult to get the IDE partial working. 
I am thinking on extending one IDE, and I am undecided if Eclipse is the 
right choice, or maybe netbeans?... Well whatever not your issue. :)


It would be cool if we could establish Windows Visual Studio Suopport or 
any other IDE.


All the best

Peter


The MSVC we use

# 2008: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5023

# 2015: https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/download/details.aspx?id=48145


On 9/22/18 2:27 PM, George K wrote:

Hello,

I would like to contribute to Open Office. My main area of expertise is
computer graphics i.e. ui/ux. I have previous experience with DirectX and
OpenGL. My main focus this couple of years has been mobile development for
iOS and Android. Also i know design and prototyping.

I want to help make Open Office better and dusty off my C++ skills. I am
currently trying to build Open Office on the Windows platform and i 've
faced a problem as Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework
3.5. SP1 is not available to download. So i 'm stuck at the configure step.
Also is Visual Studio 9 necessary? Can Visual Studio 2017 be used, as i
can't find the former?

That said, i would like to start by making the build process easier(at
least on Windows). After many thoughts i 've come up with the following
build process:

-Install Visual Studio 2017(That means updating the project to work with
MSVC 2017 and provide all the other libraries and tools needed for Windows
through the VS installation. So all things Windows would be installed
through VS).
-Create a Windows script that will install all other prerequisites and
check out the repo(Provide a .bat file that will be run from the command
line which will install Java, Cygwin and it's modules, or install python
and through python scripts set up all the above. Then checkout the repo
from svn and be ready for build).
-Build Open Office as usual.

I know that all this may sound a lot because the whole project must be
updated to modern tools, but i am willing to try. But first things first, i
would be grateful if someone cleared my questions above, for the build
process, and after that get familiar with the code and discuss what would
work and what not, for making the build process better. And if the later
were to happen i believe that new users could be onboarded easier on the
project and start working on features.

Thanks in advance,
George



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