Re: PMC Chair

2019-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Simon,

I’ve noticed that you are now a PMC member of Apache NetBeans!

Congratulations!

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Simon Phipps  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter - Thanks for the update and also for your service as PMC Chair all
> this time! You definitely deserve a break!
> 
> (FWIW, I asked not as a criticism but because previous chair rotations were
> discussed here (as far as I remember!) and I wondered why this one was done
> privately.)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Simon
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 4:50 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everybody,
>> 
>> I am not speaking for the PMC, but for myself and from my personal view.
>> I joined the Project in 2016. It has been my became Chairman in end of
>> 2017. As unexperienced as I have been it was the best move for me to go
>> into.
>> It have been an exiting and educating 2 year period as Chairman. Since the
>> PMC has decided we want to change the chair on regular bases and often I
>> fought for my availability until very late in this year.
>> But now I am relieved that I can relax a little from the mails.
>> 
>> I announced early on private to give everyone on the PMC enough time to
>> think his or her availability through. After all it is a free choice to
>> stand up for this.
>> 
>> The Chairman is in my eyes a sort of envoy between
>> ASF and PMC. I would not make much of a Fuzz about the change. This is
>> less important then the title implies.
>> I hope we can convince someone else to step up for 2021. Maybe again a
>> fresh face from the none ASF Members on the PMC. That would be super cool.
>> 
>> I want to focus next year my time more on project building topics and on
>> development. So this is not to be seen as a stepping down. I would title it
>> more as a position shift. And I am very happy to know Jim will be on the
>> watch @board. I have no doubts that Jim is a good choice.
>> 
>> I hope this extensive comment is helping everyone. If you have more I am
>> happy to answer them here on @dev. Just have some patience since due to the
>> shift I will maybe slower on answers.
>> 
>> 
>> Have fun
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 


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Re: PMC Chair

2019-11-22 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Peter - Thanks for the update and also for your service as PMC Chair all
this time! You definitely deserve a break!

(FWIW, I asked not as a criticism but because previous chair rotations were
discussed here (as far as I remember!) and I wondered why this one was done
privately.)

Cheers,

Simon

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 4:50 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> I am not speaking for the PMC, but for myself and from my personal view.
> I joined the Project in 2016. It has been my became Chairman in end of
> 2017. As unexperienced as I have been it was the best move for me to go
> into.
> It have been an exiting and educating 2 year period as Chairman. Since the
> PMC has decided we want to change the chair on regular bases and often I
> fought for my availability until very late in this year.
> But now I am relieved that I can relax a little from the mails.
>
>  I announced early on private to give everyone on the PMC enough time to
> think his or her availability through. After all it is a free choice to
> stand up for this.
>
> The Chairman is in my eyes a sort of envoy between
> ASF and PMC. I would not make much of a Fuzz about the change. This is
> less important then the title implies.
> I hope we can convince someone else to step up for 2021. Maybe again a
> fresh face from the none ASF Members on the PMC. That would be super cool.
>
> I want to focus next year my time more on project building topics and on
> development. So this is not to be seen as a stepping down. I would title it
> more as a position shift. And I am very happy to know Jim will be on the
> watch @board. I have no doubts that Jim is a good choice.
>
> I hope this extensive comment is helping everyone. If you have more I am
> happy to answer them here on @dev. Just have some patience since due to the
> shift I will maybe slower on answers.
>
>
> Have fun
> Peter
>
>
>


Re: PMC Chair

2019-11-22 Thread Marcus

Am 22.11.19 um 10:47 schrieb Simon Phipps:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 21:48 Patricia Shanahan,  wrote:


One of the resolutions passed at the last board meeting was:

"Change the Apache OpenOffice Project Chair (Jim Jagielski, VP)"

Jim,

I don't know whether congratulation or commiseration is more
appropriate, so you get whichever you prefer from me.



Likewise!

I'm slightly surprised this was decided in September but only just became
public. Can the PMC comment please?


I'm a bit disappointed that you show up only when you have something to 
criticize.


Can you comment please?

Marcus


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Re: FOSDEM 2020

2019-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 6:47 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> following the published list
> 
>   https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-11-19-accepted-stands/
> 
> our stand request was not accepted.

The Apache Software Foundation does have a stand and OpenOffice is part of the 
Foundation. Participation of OpenOffice with that stand can be discussed on 
dev@community.a.o.

There will certainly be OpenOffice stickers.

Also there is an Open Document Editors developer room on Saturday. 
https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-10-01-accepted-developer-rooms/

The Call For Papers is 
https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2019q4/002921.html and the deadline 
is Nov 30, 2019

> 
> But some of us (for example Mechtilde, Matthias, me) will be at FOSDEM
> 2020, so people can meet us.
> 
> On one side I am a little bit disappointed and sad, because a booth at
> FOSDEM is a great matter for our project. On the other side I will enjoy
> the freedom of irresponsibility (also a little bit) another year.
> 
> I am willing to repeat the request next year.

Was the request for OpenOffice or Apache OpenOffice?

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Kind regards
> Michael
> 


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Re: FOSDEM 2020

2019-11-22 Thread Peter Kovacs
Yea sad to hear. It would have been super fun.
Let's checkout what Comdev can provide.
Maybe we can develop some ideas what to do with their space?

Muharhar ;) 

Am 22. November 2019 15:47:22 MEZ schrieb "Dr. Michael Stehmann" 
:
>Hello,
>
>following the published list
>
>   https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-11-19-accepted-stands/
>
>our stand request was not accepted.
>
>But some of us (for example Mechtilde, Matthias, me) will be at FOSDEM
>2020, so people can meet us.
>
>On one side I am a little bit disappointed and sad, because a booth at
>FOSDEM is a great matter for our project. On the other side I will
>enjoy
>the freedom of irresponsibility (also a little bit) another year.
>
>I am willing to repeat the request next year.
>
>Kind regards
>Michael


Re: PMC Chair

2019-11-22 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello everybody, 

I am not speaking for the PMC, but for myself and from my personal view. 
I joined the Project in 2016. It has been my became Chairman in end of 2017. As 
unexperienced as I have been it was the best move for me to go into. 
It have been an exiting and educating 2 year period as Chairman. Since the PMC 
has decided we want to change the chair on regular bases and often I fought for 
my availability until very late in this year.
But now I am relieved that I can relax a little from the mails. 

 I announced early on private to give everyone on the PMC enough time to think 
his or her availability through. After all it is a free choice to stand up for 
this. 

The Chairman is in my eyes a sort of envoy between 
ASF and PMC. I would not make much of a Fuzz about the change. This is less 
important then the title implies. 
I hope we can convince someone else to step up for 2021. Maybe again a fresh 
face from the none ASF Members on the PMC. That would be super cool. 

I want to focus next year my time more on project building topics and on 
development. So this is not to be seen as a stepping down. I would title it 
more as a position shift. And I am very happy to know Jim will be on the watch 
@board. I have no doubts that Jim is a good choice. 

I hope this extensive comment is helping everyone. If you have more I am happy 
to answer them here on @dev. Just have some patience since due to the shift I 
will maybe slower on answers. 


Have fun
Peter

Am 22. November 2019 10:47:46 MEZ schrieb Simon Phipps :
>On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 21:48 Patricia Shanahan,  wrote:
>
>> One of the resolutions passed at the last board meeting was:
>>
>> "Change the Apache OpenOffice Project Chair (Jim Jagielski, VP)"
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> I don't know whether congratulation or commiseration is more
>> appropriate, so you get whichever you prefer from me.
>>
>
>Likewise!
>
>I'm slightly surprised this was decided in September but only just
>became
>public. Can the PMC comment please?
>
>S.
>
>>


FOSDEM 2020

2019-11-22 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Hello,

following the published list

https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-11-19-accepted-stands/

our stand request was not accepted.

But some of us (for example Mechtilde, Matthias, me) will be at FOSDEM
2020, so people can meet us.

On one side I am a little bit disappointed and sad, because a booth at
FOSDEM is a great matter for our project. On the other side I will enjoy
the freedom of irresponsibility (also a little bit) another year.

I am willing to repeat the request next year.

Kind regards
Michael



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Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

2019-11-22 Thread Jim Jagielski


> On Nov 21, 2019, at 1:41 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> I am proud of the community’s progress since then.
> 

FWIW, so am I. I think it was Good that we (the entire AOO community) took time 
to really decide what we wanted, and expected, from the project and out of the 
project and made sure that those decisions and expectations matched with 
reality.



Re: PMC Chair

2019-11-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
... what have I done?...  :-)

> On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
> 
> One of the resolutions passed at the last board meeting was:
> 
> "Change the Apache OpenOffice Project Chair (Jim Jagielski, VP)"
> 
> Jim,
> 
> I don't know whether congratulation or commiseration is more appropriate, so 
> you get whichever you prefer from me.
> 
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Re: PMC Chair

2019-11-22 Thread Gavin McDonald
Hi,

Nothing is decided until the PMC votes, then that gets passed to the board for
approval in the form of a
resolution. That resolution was passed by the board less than 2 days ago, so
I think we are good here.

Gav...


On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:48 AM Simon Phipps  wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 21:48 Patricia Shanahan,  wrote:
>
> > One of the resolutions passed at the last board meeting was:
> >
> > "Change the Apache OpenOffice Project Chair (Jim Jagielski, VP)"
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > I don't know whether congratulation or commiseration is more
> > appropriate, so you get whichever you prefer from me.
> >
>
> Likewise!
>
> I'm slightly surprised this was decided in September but only just became
> public. Can the PMC comment please?
>
> S.
>
> >
>


Re: PMC Chair

2019-11-22 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 21:48 Patricia Shanahan,  wrote:

> One of the resolutions passed at the last board meeting was:
>
> "Change the Apache OpenOffice Project Chair (Jim Jagielski, VP)"
>
> Jim,
>
> I don't know whether congratulation or commiseration is more
> appropriate, so you get whichever you prefer from me.
>

Likewise!

I'm slightly surprised this was decided in September but only just became
public. Can the PMC comment please?

S.

>