Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

2022-07-18 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi Marcus and Arrigo,

On 7/18/22 5:26 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Dear All,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 07:03:09PM +0200, Marcus wrote:


Am 16.07.22 um 15:38 schrieb Carl Marcum:

[...Carl's version]

For the blog post I propose adding this text after the second paragraph.

If you reference the 4.1.12 release blog post [1] this would replace the
sentence about the dedication to Jörg in 4.1.12.

---
It is always a good idea to backup your OpenOffice user profile before
an upgrade. It is especially important during this upgrade for users who
use the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older
version later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in
this 4.1.13 release that may make your user profile unusable for
previous versions.

[... Marcus' version ]

thanks for the text. IMHO The priority #1 should be the hint why this time a
backup is recommended. Therefore I suggest to switch the order:

1. Backup due to this release
2. Backup is always a good idea.

What do you think about this?



It is recommended to make a backup of the Apache OpenOffice users profile
before installing AOO 4.1.13. It is especially important for users who use
the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older version
later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in this 4.1.13
release that may make your user profile unusable for previous versions.

In general, it is always a good idea to do a backup of important and
personal data, so we recommend to always backup your OpenOffice user profile
before doing an upgrade to a newer release.

I personally like Carl's version best, but both are good IMHO.

I would like to suggest we only put these paragraphs (either Marcus'
or Carl's version) on the blog post and emails.

More details on the user profile (the list of directories for
different OSes) IMHO do not fit a blog post or an email for ``general
users''. I would rather only expect to see them on the release notes,
that can ``get more technical''.

I.e. this text:


Users can backup their profile by copying these directories:

Linux: /home//.openoffice
Windows 10: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice
Earlier Windows: \Documents and Settings\\Application
Data\OpenOffice
macOS: /Users//Library/Application Support/OpenOffice

More information about the users profile is in the support forum:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426

Is very good (thank you Marcus) but I would like to see it only in the
release notes.

Just my two cents.

Best regards,


Marcus I like your changes better and also Arrigo, your suggestion of 
leaving the file paths and forum link for the release notes.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Maybe others will also have opinions about both.

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

2022-07-18 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
Dear All,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 07:03:09PM +0200, Marcus wrote:

> Am 16.07.22 um 15:38 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> > 
[...Carl's version]
> > 
> > For the blog post I propose adding this text after the second paragraph.
> > 
> > If you reference the 4.1.12 release blog post [1] this would replace the
> > sentence about the dedication to Jörg in 4.1.12.
> > 
> > ---
> > It is always a good idea to backup your OpenOffice user profile before
> > an upgrade. It is especially important during this upgrade for users who
> > use the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older
> > version later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in
> > this 4.1.13 release that may make your user profile unusable for
> > previous versions.

[... Marcus' version ]
> thanks for the text. IMHO The priority #1 should be the hint why this time a
> backup is recommended. Therefore I suggest to switch the order:
> 
> 1. Backup due to this release
> 2. Backup is always a good idea.
> 
> What do you think about this?
> 
> 
> 
> It is recommended to make a backup of the Apache OpenOffice users profile
> before installing AOO 4.1.13. It is especially important for users who use
> the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older version
> later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in this 4.1.13
> release that may make your user profile unusable for previous versions.
> 
> In general, it is always a good idea to do a backup of important and
> personal data, so we recommend to always backup your OpenOffice user profile
> before doing an upgrade to a newer release.

I personally like Carl's version best, but both are good IMHO.

I would like to suggest we only put these paragraphs (either Marcus'
or Carl's version) on the blog post and emails.

More details on the user profile (the list of directories for
different OSes) IMHO do not fit a blog post or an email for ``general
users''. I would rather only expect to see them on the release notes,
that can ``get more technical''.

I.e. this text:

> Users can backup their profile by copying these directories:
> 
> Linux: /home//.openoffice
> Windows 10: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice
> Earlier Windows: \Documents and Settings\\Application
> Data\OpenOffice
> macOS: /Users//Library/Application Support/OpenOffice
> 
> More information about the users profile is in the support forum:
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426

Is very good (thank you Marcus) but I would like to see it only in the
release notes.

Just my two cents.

Best regards,
-- 
Arrigo

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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

2022-07-18 Thread Marcus

Am 16.07.22 um 15:38 schrieb Carl Marcum:


On 7/15/22 2:52 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:


On 7/15/22 2:04 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 15.07.22 um 10:47 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 07/15/2022 2:26 AM WEST Carl Marcum  wrote:



As it seems the AOO 4.1.13 RC1 vote may pass (hopefully soon ), I'm
working on the announce email and blog post.

Since the .openoffice user profile is not backward compatible with
previous 4.1 versions for stored passwords, should we place a warning
for users to back up up their user profile  in the announce email, 
blog

post, release notes, etc. or not necessary?


If we do mention it, we have to make perfectly clear that this will 
only affect users that enabled the "Openoffice dialog" AND have set 
a "Master password".
These are two options that are NOT enabled by default so only 
advanced users would use both.


That said, for those users, they have to realize that they MUST make 
a backup before updating IF they intend to downgrade AOO at any 
point (which is also something common users don't do...)


I hope such a warning is not confusing/worrying for common users...


you have good ideas what the text should contain. Would you like to 
try to write a paragraph? We all can then see what needs to be added.


My thoughts are using the announcement Blog post and the Release notes 
and not the emails.


I can draft the paragraph but I don't know all the file paths to the 
profile. Mainly Mac since I don't have one.


I think it is basically a warning targeted to users whom us a master 
password.


I'll reply with a draft and hopefully someone can fill that part in 
for me.


For the blog post I propose adding this text after the second paragraph.

If you reference the 4.1.12 release blog post [1] this would replace the 
sentence about the dedication to Jörg in 4.1.12.


---
It is always a good idea to backup your OpenOffice user profile before 
an upgrade. It is especially important during this upgrade for users who 
use the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older 
version later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in 
this 4.1.13 release that may make your user profile unusable for 
previous versions.

Users can backup their profile by copying these directories:

Linux: /home//.openoffice
Windows 10: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice
Earlier Windows ??
MacOS: TBD



thanks for the text. IMHO The priority #1 should be the hint why this 
time a backup is recommended. Therefore I suggest to switch the order:


1. Backup due to this release
2. Backup is always a good idea.

What do you think about this?



It is recommended to make a backup of the Apache OpenOffice users 
profile before installing AOO 4.1.13. It is especially important for 
users who use the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an 
older version later. There is a change in the encoding of stored 
passwords in this 4.1.13 release that may make your user profile 
unusable for previous versions.


In general, it is always a good idea to do a backup of important and 
personal data, so we recommend to always backup your OpenOffice user 
profile before doing an upgrade to a newer release.


Users can backup their profile by copying these directories:

Linux: /home//.openoffice
Windows 10: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice
Earlier Windows: \Documents and Settings\\Application 
Data\OpenOffice

macOS: /Users//Library/Application Support/OpenOffice

More information about the users profile is in the support forum:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426



Marcus

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Re: [CLOSED] Vote Passed: (Was: Re: [VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.13-RC1 as GA)

2022-07-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
We are still following the process documented here: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.13

We are at  Website Updates


> On Jul 18, 2022, at 1:12 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> When is the release date?
> 
> Am 17.07.22 um 22:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The Windows binaries were signed and re-uploaded.
>> 
>> I created the staged dir on SourceForge and rsynced all binaries.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>> Am 16.07.22 um 15:11 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> The polls are closed; the VOTE PASSES.
>>> 
>>> Thx to all who voted and tested.
>>> 
 On Jul 5, 2022, at 7:58 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
 
 I am calling a VOTE on releasing the source and complimentary community 
 builds of
 Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13-RC1 as GA.
 
 These artifacts can be found at:
 
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.13-RC1/
 
 Please cast your vote:
 
 The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:
 
 [ ] yes / +1
 
 [ ] no / -1
 
 My vote is based on
 
 [ ] binding (member of PMC)
 
 [ ] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [ ]
 
 [ ] I have tested the binary RC on platform [ ]
 
 This vote will be open for 7 days to allow for sufficient time
 for testing, review, and voting.
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Re: promoting stage to prod for openoffice.org

2022-07-18 Thread Dave Fisher
It’s a manual Jenkins job. Instructions are in Github: 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org#manual-publishing

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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:08 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> How do i start the build for prod or is this triggered automaticly.
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter
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promoting stage to prod for openoffice.org

2022-07-18 Thread Peter Kovacs

Hi all,


How do i start the build for prod or is this triggered automaticly.


thanks

All the best

Peter


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[GitHub] [openoffice-org] leginee merged pull request #64: Update referenzkunden.html

2022-07-18 Thread GitBox


leginee merged PR #64:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/pull/64


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