Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects
Am 02.08.22 um 18:12 schrieb Dave Fisher: > After 21 years working with users of OpenOffice.org, Apache OpenOffice, and > LibreOffice Dave’s experience should be respected and not dismissed. I really think that all this was a big misunderstanding. I surely didn't want to disrespect Dave's experience! > > Assume a bad day or frustration instead of further reaction. Apologizing for > misunderstanding someone is good, friendly community building. But I still hope that his statement was made out of an impulse and AOO remains not only my beloved project. Regards, Matthias > > Assume the best, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Peter kovacs wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> Can you explain? >> I do not understand why Dave is angry. >> I dont think Matthias wanted to offend Dave. >> >> Thanks. >> Peter >> >> Am 2. August 2022 16:54:04 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher : >>> I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion. >>> >>> If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from >>> moderation. >>> >>> All the best, >>> Dave >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel > wrote: I am not sure what happened here... But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter". According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We should discuss if we need to remove his rights. Regards, Matthias > Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage > quit. > > There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to > late for that. > >> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave: >> Hi Matthias, >> >> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you >> had absolutely no sense of humour. >> >> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you >> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted) >> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess >> who they might be. >> >> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here >> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine". >> >> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list >> will now be directed to null/dev. >> >> BYE AOO! >> >> >> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave: Hi Matthias, Sorry, but you loose that bet. I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with 16Gb RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close enough. Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer SOMETHING to assist Peter. >>> I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user. >>> >>> And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer. >>> @Peter: On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO 4.1.13 edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of to create a crash, but it remained rock solid. Is there any difference between the RC and released code? >>> No. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>>Matthias >>> Regards Dave On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave: >> Hi Matthias, >> >> Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box. >> >> I have never been a fan of GNOME. > I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-) > > Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and > a lot > of people *are* using GNOME... > > Regards, > >Matthias > >> Regards >> Dave >> >> On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint? >>> >>> We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other >>> distributions when >>> GNOME is used as DE. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>>Matthias >>> >>> Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave: On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote: > Hi all, > > I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO. > > As soon
Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects
After 21 years working with users of OpenOffice.org, Apache OpenOffice, and LibreOffice Dave’s experience should be respected and not dismissed. Assume a bad day or frustration instead of further reaction. Apologizing for misunderstanding someone is good, friendly community building. Assume the best, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Peter kovacs wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > Can you explain? > I do not understand why Dave is angry. > I dont think Matthias wanted to offend Dave. > > Thanks. > Peter > > Am 2. August 2022 16:54:04 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher : >> I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion. >> >> If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from >> moderation. >> >> All the best, >> Dave >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> >>> I am not sure what happened here... >>> >>> But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter". >>> >>> According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We >>> should discuss if we need to remove his rights. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >>> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage quit. There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to late for that. > Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave: > Hi Matthias, > > Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you > had absolutely no sense of humour. > > Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you > have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted) > talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess > who they might be. > > YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here > on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine". > > Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list > will now be directed to null/dev. > > BYE AOO! > > > On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave: >>> Hi Matthias, >>> >>> Sorry, but you loose that bet. >>> >>> I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and >>> installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only >>> readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with >>> 16Gb >>> RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close >>> enough. >>> >>> Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer >>> SOMETHING to assist Peter. >> I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user. >> >> And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer. >> >>> @Peter: >>> On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO >>> 4.1.13 >>> edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of >>> to create a crash, but it remained rock solid. >>> >>> Is there any difference between the RC and released code? >> No. >> >> Regards, >> >>Matthias >> >>> Regards >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Dave, Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave: > Hi Matthias, > > Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box. > > I have never been a fan of GNOME. I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-) Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and a lot of people *are* using GNOME... Regards, Matthias > Regards > Dave > > On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint? >> >> We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other >> distributions when >> GNOME is used as DE. >> >> Regards, >> >>Matthias >> >> Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave: >>> On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote: Hi all, I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO. As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy (From LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes. Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint? Check out the document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing
Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects
Hi Dave, Can you explain? I do not understand why Dave is angry. I dont think Matthias wanted to offend Dave. Thanks. Peter Am 2. August 2022 16:54:04 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher : >I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion. > >If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from >moderation. > >All the best, >Dave > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel >> wrote: >> >> I am not sure what happened here... >> >> But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter". >> >> According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We >> should discuss if we need to remove his rights. >> >> Regards, >> >>Matthias >> >>> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: >>> I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage >>> quit. >>> >>> There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to >>> late for that. >>> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave: Hi Matthias, Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you had absolutely no sense of humour. Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted) talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess who they might be. YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine". Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list will now be directed to null/dev. BYE AOO! On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave: >> Hi Matthias, >> >> Sorry, but you loose that bet. >> >> I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and >> installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only >> readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with >> 16Gb >> RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close >> enough. >> >> Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer >> SOMETHING to assist Peter. > I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user. > > And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer. > >> @Peter: >> On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO >> 4.1.13 >> edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of >> to create a crash, but it remained rock solid. >> >> Is there any difference between the RC and released code? > No. > > Regards, > > Matthias > >> Regards >> Dave >> >> >> On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave: Hi Matthias, Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box. I have never been a fan of GNOME. >>> I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-) >>> >>> Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and >>> a lot >>> of people *are* using GNOME... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >>> Regards Dave On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint? > > We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other > distributions when > GNOME is used as DE. > > Regards, > > Matthias > > Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave: >> On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO. >>> >>> As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy (From >>> LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes. >>> >>> Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint? >>> >>> Check out the document: >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate. >>> >>> My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So >>> recent fast >>> machine) >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Peter >> Hi Peter, >> >> Not sure if this will be of any help to you. >> >> My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am on Linux >> Mint 20.3 >> >> I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO
Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects
I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion. If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from moderation. All the best, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel > wrote: > > I am not sure what happened here... > > But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter". > > According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We > should discuss if we need to remove his rights. > > Regards, > >Matthias > >> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: >> I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage >> quit. >> >> There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to >> late for that. >> >>> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave: >>> Hi Matthias, >>> >>> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you >>> had absolutely no sense of humour. >>> >>> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you >>> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted) >>> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess >>> who they might be. >>> >>> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here >>> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine". >>> >>> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list >>> will now be directed to null/dev. >>> >>> BYE AOO! >>> >>> >>> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Dave, Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave: > Hi Matthias, > > Sorry, but you loose that bet. > > I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and > installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only > readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with > 16Gb > RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close > enough. > > Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer > SOMETHING to assist Peter. I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user. And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer. > @Peter: > On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO > 4.1.13 > edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of > to create a crash, but it remained rock solid. > > Is there any difference between the RC and released code? No. Regards, Matthias > Regards > Dave > > > On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave: >>> Hi Matthias, >>> >>> Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box. >>> >>> I have never been a fan of GNOME. >> I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-) >> >> Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and >> a lot >> of people *are* using GNOME... >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >>> Regards >>> Dave >>> >>> On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Dave, Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint? We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other distributions when GNOME is used as DE. Regards, Matthias Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave: > On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO. >> >> As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy (From >> LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes. >> >> Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint? >> >> Check out the document: >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate. >> >> My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So >> recent fast >> machine) >> >> All the best >> >> Peter > Hi Peter, > > Not sure if this will be of any help to you. > > My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am on Linux > Mint 20.3 > > I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO > 4.1.13 > (Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with > either > AOO or LibreOffice on Linux. > > However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to > edit the > OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64 > on Win
Re: Open Source Apache License
FYI A list moderator has for more than a decade taken on the responsibility of ensuring non-subscribed posters receive a redirected copy of answers where they were not cc'd. So Heather did get a copy of Francis's reply. On 02/08/2022 11:49, Carl Marcum wrote: > Hi Francis, > > Thanks for the thoughtful reply to Heather but they may not be > subscribed to the list. > > Best regards, > Carl > > On 8/1/22 10:34 PM, F Campos Costero wrote: >> I am sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with your devices. >> However, this mailing list is not the right place to get help fixing >> those >> problems. Let me explain why that is. >> >> The Apache Software License is just a legal text that sets out the >> conditions for using, copying, and modifying software. The license >> does not >> do anything on your device. Many pieces of software are distributed under >> the Apache License, so it would not be surprising to find its text or a >> reference to the license on your device. >> >> This mailing list is used by the developers of Apache OpenOffice, a >> product >> distributed under the Apache License. OpenOffice, as released by this >> organnization does not do any of the evil things you have experienced. >> Though you do not mention OpenOffice in your message, I will say that if >> you downloaded and installed OpenOffice from an unscrupulous source, >> it may >> have been modified or other software might have been included in the >> download so that malware was installed on your device. The official and >> safe source for OpenOffice is https://www.openoffice.org/download/. >> >> However the malware got on to your device, the people on this mailing >> list >> had nothing to do with it and have no realistic way to help you. You are >> right searching for expert help but this is not the right place. I am NOT >> an expert in malware but I suspect you need to find a local person who >> can >> work directly on you device to diagnose the problem. >> >> Best regards, >> Francis >> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 4:36 PM Heather Jordan >> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes I'm writing you to inquire about distribution of said license to >>> unknowing parties/devices. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I do believe >>> that I read that is considered mis use of the license. This license has >>> been installed on multiple devices of mine on occasions usually with >>> more >>> attached. They are using my private information, locking me out of my >>> internet, crashing my devices, copying my password, looking through my >>> history, sending packages to my phone, breaching my banks, credit, >>> getting >>> my call and message, changing my passwords, forwaring my mail. with a >>> lot >>> more damage. They are using some type business because my phone says to >>> speak to my administration I don't have one. Could you please help >>> correcting this issue please? >>> >>> Thank you for your time >>> Heather Jordan >>> 7046786433 >>> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Source Apache License
Hi Francis, Thanks for the thoughtful reply to Heather but they may not be subscribed to the list. Best regards, Carl On 8/1/22 10:34 PM, F Campos Costero wrote: I am sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with your devices. However, this mailing list is not the right place to get help fixing those problems. Let me explain why that is. The Apache Software License is just a legal text that sets out the conditions for using, copying, and modifying software. The license does not do anything on your device. Many pieces of software are distributed under the Apache License, so it would not be surprising to find its text or a reference to the license on your device. This mailing list is used by the developers of Apache OpenOffice, a product distributed under the Apache License. OpenOffice, as released by this organnization does not do any of the evil things you have experienced. Though you do not mention OpenOffice in your message, I will say that if you downloaded and installed OpenOffice from an unscrupulous source, it may have been modified or other software might have been included in the download so that malware was installed on your device. The official and safe source for OpenOffice is https://www.openoffice.org/download/. However the malware got on to your device, the people on this mailing list had nothing to do with it and have no realistic way to help you. You are right searching for expert help but this is not the right place. I am NOT an expert in malware but I suspect you need to find a local person who can work directly on you device to diagnose the problem. Best regards, Francis On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 4:36 PM Heather Jordan wrote: Yes I'm writing you to inquire about distribution of said license to unknowing parties/devices. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I do believe that I read that is considered mis use of the license. This license has been installed on multiple devices of mine on occasions usually with more attached. They are using my private information, locking me out of my internet, crashing my devices, copying my password, looking through my history, sending packages to my phone, breaching my banks, credit, getting my call and message, changing my passwords, forwaring my mail. with a lot more damage. They are using some type business because my phone says to speak to my administration I don't have one. Could you please help correcting this issue please? Thank you for your time Heather Jordan 7046786433 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects
Hello, I am wondering, what is going on here. Looking from past to future: Before moving rights, IMO we have to find substitute persons to do the jobs. Kind regards Michael Am 02.08.22 um 11:19 schrieb Matthias Seidel: I am not sure what happened here... But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter". According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We should discuss if we need to remove his rights. Regards, Matthias Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage quit. There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to late for that. Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave: Hi Matthias, Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you had absolutely no sense of humour. Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted) talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess who they might be. YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine". Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list will now be directed to null/dev. BYE AOO! On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Dave, Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave: Hi Matthias, Sorry, but you loose that bet. I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with 16Gb RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close enough. Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer SOMETHING to assist Peter. I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user. And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer. @Peter: On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO 4.1.13 edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of to create a crash, but it remained rock solid. Is there any difference between the RC and released code? No. Regards, Matthias Regards Dave On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Dave, Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave: Hi Matthias, Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box. I have never been a fan of GNOME. I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-) Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and a lot of people *are* using GNOME... Regards, Matthias Regards Dave On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Dave, Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint? We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other distributions when GNOME is used as DE. Regards, Matthias Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave: On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote: Hi all, I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO. As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy (From LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes. Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint? Check out the document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate. My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So recent fast machine) All the best Peter Hi Peter, Not sure if this will be of any help to you. My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am on Linux Mint 20.3 I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO 4.1.13 (Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with either AOO or LibreOffice on Linux. However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to edit the OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64 on Win 10, but it does not crash LibreOffice 7.4.0.2 x64 on Win 10. Regards Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:
Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects
I am not sure what happened here... But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter". According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We should discuss if we need to remove his rights. Regards, Matthias Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage > quit. > > There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to > late for that. > > Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave: >> Hi Matthias, >> >> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you >> had absolutely no sense of humour. >> >> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you >> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted) >> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess >> who they might be. >> >> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here >> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine". >> >> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list >> will now be directed to null/dev. >> >> BYE AOO! >> >> >> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave: Hi Matthias, Sorry, but you loose that bet. I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with 16Gb RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close enough. Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer SOMETHING to assist Peter. >>> I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user. >>> >>> And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer. >>> @Peter: On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO 4.1.13 edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of to create a crash, but it remained rock solid. Is there any difference between the RC and released code? >>> No. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >>> Regards Dave On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave: >> Hi Matthias, >> >> Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box. >> >> I have never been a fan of GNOME. > I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-) > > Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and > a lot > of people *are* using GNOME... > > Regards, > > Matthias > >> Regards >> Dave >> >> On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint? >>> >>> We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other >>> distributions when >>> GNOME is used as DE. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >>> >>> Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave: On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote: > Hi all, > > I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO. > > As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy (From > LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes. > > Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint? > > Check out the document: > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing > > > I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate. > > My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So > recent fast > machine) > > All the best > > Peter Hi Peter, Not sure if this will be of any help to you. My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am on Linux Mint 20.3 I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO 4.1.13 (Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with either AOO or LibreOffice on Linux. However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to edit the OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64 on Win 10, but it does not crash LibreOffice 7.4.0.2 x64 on Win 10. Regards Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> - >> >> To unsubscribe,