Re: Marketing Mailing List
Carl Marcum wrote: Hi Dave, On 1/7/23 11:31 AM, Dave wrote: The marketing mailing list has a deteriorating level of usefulness. Since 2014 there have been 330 posts, the majority of which had very little to do with the "marketing" the software or promotion of the project: Year Posts 2014 211 2015 40 2016 43 2017 21 2018 4 2019 2 2020 3 2021 3 2022 3 Total 330 Apart from the small flurry of activity in 2014 just before Rob Weir retired from the project. the mailing list has served almost no useful purpose, other than to attract a steady 24/7 stream of spam posts. Since the project doesn't engage in any marketing activity and those few events at which we attend are normally discussed on the dev list, I propose that, unless any member of the project can offer any clear and fully justifiable reason for doing otherwise, we shut down the "spam bait" marketing list. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org +1 for removing it. Best regards, Carl +1 Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Marketing Mailing List
Hi Dave, On 1/7/23 11:31 AM, Dave wrote: The marketing mailing list has a deteriorating level of usefulness. Since 2014 there have been 330 posts, the majority of which had very little to do with the "marketing" the software or promotion of the project: Year Posts 2014 211 2015 40 2016 43 2017 21 20184 20192 20203 20213 20223 Total 330 Apart from the small flurry of activity in 2014 just before Rob Weir retired from the project. the mailing list has served almost no useful purpose, other than to attract a steady 24/7 stream of spam posts. Since the project doesn't engage in any marketing activity and those few events at which we attend are normally discussed on the dev list, I propose that, unless any member of the project can offer any clear and fully justifiable reason for doing otherwise, we shut down the "spam bait" marketing list. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org +1 for removing it. Best regards, Carl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: T-DOSE 2023
"Open Source Software" and "Free Software" are synonymic amd I prefer to talk abaout freedom. Kind regards Michael Am 08.01.23 um 18:32 schrieb Pedro Lino: T-DOSE == Technical Dutch Open Source Event There is no mention to Free Software on the website. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: T-DOSE 2023
T-DOSE == Technical Dutch Open Source Event There is no mention to Free Software on the website. > On 01/08/2023 4:44 PM WET Dr. Michael Stehmann > wrote: > > > Am 08.01.23 um 17:24 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 4:18 PM Dr. Michael Stehmann < > > anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> T-DOSE 2023 will be held on the 22nd and 23rd of April 2023, at a new > >> location the Weeffabriek in Geldrop (near Eindhoven). > >> > >> T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use > >> and development of Free Software. During this event, Free Software > >> projects, developers and visitors can exchange ideas and knowledge. > >> > >> https://t-dose.org/ > > > > > > > > OpenOffice is Open-Source Software, not Free Software. There is a > > difference. > > > > 1. What is the difference? > > 2. And why does the Apache License (v2) not satisfy the Four Freedoms? > > (The "Free" in "Free Software " means free as in freedom (or free > speech) not as in free beer.) > > Kind regards > Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: T-DOSE 2023
Am 08.01.23 um 17:24 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 4:18 PM Dr. Michael Stehmann < anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote: Hello, T-DOSE 2023 will be held on the 22nd and 23rd of April 2023, at a new location the Weeffabriek in Geldrop (near Eindhoven). T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use and development of Free Software. During this event, Free Software projects, developers and visitors can exchange ideas and knowledge. https://t-dose.org/ OpenOffice is Open-Source Software, not Free Software. There is a difference. 1. What is the difference? 2. And why does the Apache License (v2) not satisfy the Four Freedoms? (The "Free" in "Free Software " means free as in freedom (or free speech) not as in free beer.) Kind regards Michael OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: T-DOSE 2023
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 4:18 PM Dr. Michael Stehmann < anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote: > Hello, > > T-DOSE 2023 will be held on the 22nd and 23rd of April 2023, at a new > location the Weeffabriek in Geldrop (near Eindhoven). > > T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use > and development of Free Software. During this event, Free Software > projects, developers and visitors can exchange ideas and knowledge. > > https://t-dose.org/ OpenOffice is Open-Source Software, not Free Software. There is a difference. Regards Damjan
Re: Marketing Mailing List
Am 07.01.23 um 17:31 schrieb Dave: The marketing mailing list has a deteriorating level of usefulness. Since 2014 there have been 330 posts, the majority of which had very little to do with the "marketing" the software or promotion of the project: Year Posts 2014 211 2015 40 2016 43 2017 21 20184 20192 20203 20213 20223 Total 330 Apart from the small flurry of activity in 2014 just before Rob Weir retired from the project. the mailing list has served almost no useful purpose, other than to attract a steady 24/7 stream of spam posts. Since the project doesn't engage in any marketing activity and those few events at which we attend are normally discussed on the dev list, I propose that, unless any member of the project can offer any clear and fully justifiable reason for doing otherwise, we shut down the "spam bait" marketing list. yes, I also think it's time to remove this mailing list. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: T-DOSE 2023
Hi Michael, On 1/7/23 9:18 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote: Hello, T-DOSE 2023 will be held on the 22nd and 23rd of April 2023, at a new location the Weeffabriek in Geldrop (near Eindhoven). T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use and development of Free Software. During this event, Free Software projects, developers and visitors can exchange ideas and knowledge. https://t-dose.org/ Apache OpenOffice will have a booth at T-DOSE again. https://t-dose.org/2023/projects/ Mechtilde and I will maintain this booth, but helpers are cordially welcome. Kind regards Michael Thanks for the information and to you and Mechtilde for representing at the event. Best regards, Carl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: graphics in /main/extras/source/symbols
Hi all, It builds fine on Windows. Since there seem to be no objections, I plan to merge this PR to trunk by the end of next week. Our Linux buildbot can do the test job then. Still open is a build for macOS. Regards, Matthias Am 28.12.22 um 16:04 schrieb Matthias Seidel: > Hi all, > > I think I have all commits now in place. > > My build for Windows is still running, but if anyone could build PR #163 > for Linux/macOS that would be great! > > Regards, > > Matthias > > Am 27.12.22 um 21:23 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> Hi Czesław, >> >> Pull Request opened: >> >> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/163 >> >> This is work in progress, I still need to build it for Windows. >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >> Am 27.12.22 um 21:06 schrieb Czesław Wolański: >>> Hi Matthias, >>> On 2022/12/27 16:28:57 Matthias Seidel wrote: IMO the complete directory isn't needed anymore, the UI does not provide a way to attach a bitmap from there. >>> I tend to concur. ;‑) >>> >>> I read relevant tutorials / guides, looked deeper at the source code and >>> did some tests. >>> >>> The "Customizing OpenOffice.org" guide [1] for version 1.1 states: >>> There is no in-built tool button editor. To use a custom icon, save it to the "{installpath}/share/config/symbol" directory in *.BMP format. OOo automatically searches this directory for new icons each time the Customize Buttons dialog is opened. >>> The OOo Help provides similar information. >>> >>> It works exactly like described above. The version 1.1.5, unlike the newer >>> versions of the suite, >>> does not display the "Import" button. It allows you to reset the selected >>> icon to the default icon >>> via the "Default" button. >>> . >>> A change in the layout of the dialog probably happened in version 2.0 >>> (I failed to find any version earlier than 2.2). >>> >>> Regards, >>> Czesław >>> >>> [1] >>> https://www.openoffice.org/documentation/manuals/oooauthors/CustomizingOOo1.pdf >>> >>> >>> Am Di., 27. Dez. 2022 um 17:29 Uhr schrieb Matthias Seidel < >>> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>: >>> Hi Czesław, Am 27.12.22 um 15:05 schrieb Czesław Wolański: > Hi all, > > While compiling the Bugzilla report about the "Change Icon" dialog, I > learned something that might shed light > on the issue Matthias raised. Nothing conclusive, of course, as I haven't > studied the source code of all versions in detail. > > ZIP archive (a .pdf file and .gif file) is available at the link given > below. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WuE34KJ3ozb4jkSOH5AgouJ-wluErxgO/view?usp=share_link Thank you for your detailed information! IMO the complete directory isn't needed anymore, the UI does not provide a way to attach a bitmap from there. I plan to open a Pull Request for this. Comments welcome. Regards, Matthias > Best regards, > Czesław > > PS Thanks to Matthias for encouraging > > Am Mo., 26. Dez. 2022 um 23:16 Uhr schrieb Matthias Seidel < > matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>: > >> Hi all, >> >> what is the use of the Bitmaps in /main/extras/source/symbols? >> >> I have not seen them anywhere in AOO but we bundle them with every >> release... >> >> Regards, >> >>Matthias >> >> >> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Marketing Mailing List
Hi Dave, Am 07.01.23 um 17:31 schrieb Dave: > The marketing mailing list has a deteriorating level of usefulness. > Since 2014 there have been 330 posts, the majority of which had very > little to do with the "marketing" the software or promotion of the project: > Year Posts > 2014 211 > 2015 40 > 2016 43 > 2017 21 > 20184 > 20192 > 20203 > 20213 > 20223 > Total 330 > > Apart from the small flurry of activity in 2014 just before Rob Weir > retired from the project. the mailing list has served almost no useful > purpose, other than to attract a steady 24/7 stream of spam posts. > > Since the project doesn't engage in any marketing activity and those few > events at which we attend are normally discussed on the dev list, I > propose that, unless any member of the project can offer any clear and > fully justifiable reason for doing otherwise, we shut down the "spam > bait" marketing list. +1 Our daily work is our "marketing". Regards, Matthias > > Dave > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature