Re: Committer with Mac OS X environment needed

[Michael Acevedo]

Hello Regina,

I have a MacBook Pro with OS X Yosemite. Do you want me to download the
icns attachments found in Bugzilla?

Let me know!

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Regina Henschel 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> do you know about specifics of Mac OS? Your help is needed.
>
> 1.
> The review request
>Updated icons for Mac OS X
>https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125994
> is pending. I have used an online converter to look at the icons. I think,
> that they look good. But I've got no Mac and cannot test, whether they work
> well, especially the new large ones.
>
> 2.
> The review request
>List box within writing aids dialog too small
>https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125986
> is pending. There are screenshots of Mac OS and Windows attached, which
> show, that the situation is different. Does the code contains parts, which
> can consider this difference? The patch contains a simple shift, but there
> might exist a better solution.
>
> 3.
> The problem in https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125988 is of
> similar kind as issue 125986. The dialog is on Mac very different from
> Windows.
>
> I ask for your help, because it is frustrating when someone attaches
> patches and gets no response. We should be more encouraging.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>
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Re: Results from AOO 4.0 Logo Poll

[Michael Acevedo]

Saw the feedback on proposals 12 and 13, I will put the capitals in the
word OpenOffice and look how can I improve the positioning of the Apache
name. I was hoping that the non-capitalized version would gain traction
given that part of the inspiration was drawn from when I write
www.openoffice.org on my browser address bar...

When would the amended logo be needed?


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
> > Never surprises me where I find users seeking end user help, here it is
> in
> > feedback on my logo:
> >
> > "2 I have a problem with simple addition   when I FILL SOME CELLS WITH
> > figures. I FIND THE INSTRUCTIONS VERY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW.NEED YOUR
> HELP!!"
> >
>
> We see support requests in blog comments as well, even if they are
> totally unrelated to the topic of the post.  But a support request in
> a survey?!  That is crazy.
>
> > Rob I'll create a finalized version and have it to you by friday.
>
> Maybe create a new wiki page for the revised logos?   It would also be
> good to discuss what you think the comments actually say, in
> aggregate.  I saw a lot of contradictory opinions.  But there were
> some common things that I saw in comments on many of the logos, and I
> hope we agree that:
>
> 1) If the logo contains the name of the product (the wordmark) it must
> be "Apache OpenOffice"
>
> 2) The logo may optionally contain the version number ("4" or  "4.0")
> but if so it must be easy to update this number is the source file.
> But it is perfectly fine to have
>
> 3) Including the trademark symbol (™) is recommended.  This could be
> part of the design, or something in the border, like Starbucks does:
> http://www.starbucks.com/
>
> -Rob
>
> > On May 3, 2013 3:46 PM, "Rob Weir"  wrote:
> >
> >> I've updated the report to include links to the comments received for
> >> the top scoring logos.
> >>
> >> You can find links at the end of the report:
> >>
> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/
> >>
> >> Or here:
> >>
> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/34.txt
> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/36.txt
> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/5.txt
> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/28.txt
> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/12.txt
> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/13.txt
> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/31.txt
> >>
> >> Next steps?  As far as the survey goes, I think I'm done.  We have a
> >> heap of data.  I tried to make some sense of it.  But it now is for
> >> the designers to take all this feedback and create one or more revised
> >> designs.  Of the top scoring logos, two were from Kevin Grignon, one
> >> from Samer Mansour, two from Michael Acevedo and one from someone I
> >> haven't seen on the mailing list, but whose entry on the wiki was from
> >> "Chris R."
> >>
> >> Maybe it makes sense in the next round to aim for one design per
> >> designer?  If so, we can probably narrow it down to 3 or 4 choices,
> >> which we can either poll users again for, or just have a vote of
> >> project participants.
> >>
> >> There isn't much time yet, so could I suggest we aim for having the
> >> revisions done for next Friday, May 10th?  Aim for 400 pixels wide,
> >> PNG with white or transparent background.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >> > The survey ran for a week,and received over 5000 responses.  I wrote
> >> > up the results, along with some charts, and put them here:
> >> >
> >> > http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/
> >> >
> >> > It is rather long and detailed, so I'll take a subset of that content
> >> > and spin it into a blog post over the next week or two.
> >> >
> >> > If there is an approach to analysis that I missed, let me know.  It is
> >> > easy for me to create additional tables or charts.
> >> >
> >> > If any designer wants to receive the user comments on their logo let
> >> > me know the logo number and I'll send them to you.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > -Rob
> >>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Armin,

I decided to change the color of the rounded square from black to the AOO
orb blue color and take out the circles of the suites components, and the
blue background of the gull rings. The result, a clean looking logo without
the rings (for those that dislike them), that looks modern. You can take a
peek here:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KbL_2pEb5C8/UOilxF9rEaI/A94/VCnM0_MTQZ4/s759/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520All%2520Proposals%2520Bluecon%2520copy.jpg

Hope you guys like it.


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Armin Le Grand wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> thanks for the continued work, I like it more than the prev ones. Still,
> for my taste, it is too complicated. I honour to try to add information
> about the available applications, but - for a logo, it's too complicated.
> The big plus with the orb is it's *simplicity* from my POV.
> Thus, I took the time and quickly created what I think would be enough
> (using Draw ;-)). Have a look at:
>
> The draw file: 
> http://people.apache.org/~alg/**Logos/AOOLogo.odg<http://people.apache.org/~alg/Logos/AOOLogo.odg>
> The same as screenshot (for quick viewing): http://people.apache.org/~alg/
> **Logos/AOOLogo.png <http://people.apache.org/~alg/Logos/AOOLogo.png>
>
> It is:
> - simple
> - modernized to the (now) famous 'app'-Logo form
> - easy to remember
> - easy to reproduce
>
> No Text. If text is needed, place it beneath or below.
> No Numbers. If needed, place beneath or below.
> Keep it simple :-)
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> On 27.12.2012 05:07, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
>> Greetings to all in the mailing list and those in this AOO Logo Proposal
>> subject,
>>
>> In this email, I would like to mention that I have added two new logo
>> proposals to the Apache OpenOffice Logo exploration wiki article. Now let
>> me explain what this new logo it's all about.
>>
>> The new logo design does away with the orb and changes it for a gull ring
>> that rests under a blue background which itself rests on circles which are
>> inspired on the Adobe Flex logo multicolor scheme. The new gull ring while
>> being new, retains the familiar circular shape of the current OpenOffice
>> logo, but at the same time is a new take that pays respect to the orb. All
>> of these elements are wrapped in a modern black gradient icon than makes
>> the logo stand out. Furthermore, the new logo actually changes the look of
>> the word OpenOffice into a more modern non-capitalized "openoffice" word
>> design (also an inspiration from the Adobe Flex project logo). The latter
>> serves the function of highlighting Apache as the owner of the project
>> (whose name is in capital letters), yet the non-capitalized "openoffice"
>> names takes presence by being written in a larger size font. Overall, the
>> new logo design is simple, clean, and modern.
>>
>> Now that I have given a sense of the new logo, I would like to show you a
>> reveal video:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=AC-tOuhTm9Y<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-tOuhTm9Y>
>>
>> But there is one last detail, which actually is a testament to the power
>> of
>> OpenOffice. The detail is that the logo that you see at the end of the
>> video was 99% made in Apache OpenOffice Draw.
>>
>> Hope you liked the logo and the reveal video.
>>
>> Happy Holidays!
>>
>> You can see the formal proposal in the Cwiki at Apache:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Michael Acevedo 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Greetings Kevin, I would not mind posting the logos to that AOO UX wiki.
>>> Thing is I don't know where it is or whether it is on the cwiki or mwiki
>>> (if it is on the latter, I need to request an account).
>>>
>>> Let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kevin Grignon wrote:
>>>
>>>  Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Great work. Design is very iterative. Keep pushing!
>>>>
>>>> Using the design explorations is a great way to stimulate a conversation
>>>> which can help us better understand the requirements. Perhaps we could
>>>> harvest the criteria for success in the thread and capture in the wiki
>>>>
>>>> Then we can make the design review process less subjective by having
>>>> people review design explorations relative to stated goals.
>>>>
>&g

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Dave,

The video as far as I know will never see the light of day beyond these
mailing lists. Number two, the video was done for the purpose of showing
the proposal logo so I was not being strictly official while making it.


On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> I like the logo - a lot.
>
> I have a problem with the video that is significant. You are using the
> same music that Microsoft is using for its Surface Advertising on TV. Also,
> at the end you are using a non-standard Apache Software Foundation logo and
> feather placement.
>
> Although we want people and institutions to use Apache OpenOffice and not
> Microsoft Office, we cannot be subversive about it.
>
> Please keep up with your work and contributions, just be careful that you
> aren't appropriating others images and music.
>
> For fun here is a more original version of the music.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyzBbWPV5w
>
> Best Regards and Happy New Year,
> Dave
>
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
> > Greetings to all in the mailing list and those in this AOO Logo Proposal
> > subject,
> >
> > In this email, I would like to mention that I have added two new logo
> > proposals to the Apache OpenOffice Logo exploration wiki article. Now let
> > me explain what this new logo it's all about.
> >
> > The new logo design does away with the orb and changes it for a gull ring
> > that rests under a blue background which itself rests on circles which
> are
> > inspired on the Adobe Flex logo multicolor scheme. The new gull ring
> while
> > being new, retains the familiar circular shape of the current OpenOffice
> > logo, but at the same time is a new take that pays respect to the orb.
> All
> > of these elements are wrapped in a modern black gradient icon than makes
> > the logo stand out. Furthermore, the new logo actually changes the look
> of
> > the word OpenOffice into a more modern non-capitalized "openoffice" word
> > design (also an inspiration from the Adobe Flex project logo). The latter
> > serves the function of highlighting Apache as the owner of the project
> > (whose name is in capital letters), yet the non-capitalized "openoffice"
> > names takes presence by being written in a larger size font. Overall, the
> > new logo design is simple, clean, and modern.
> >
> > Now that I have given a sense of the new logo, I would like to show you a
> > reveal video:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-tOuhTm9Y
> >
> > But there is one last detail, which actually is a testament to the power
> of
> > OpenOffice. The detail is that the logo that you see at the end of the
> > video was 99% made in Apache OpenOffice Draw.
> >
> > Hope you liked the logo and the reveal video.
> >
> > Happy Holidays!
> >
> > You can see the formal proposal in the Cwiki at Apache:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Michael Acevedo 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings Kevin, I would not mind posting the logos to that AOO UX wiki.
> >> Thing is I don't know where it is or whether it is on the cwiki or mwiki
> >> (if it is on the latter, I need to request an account).
> >>
> >> Let me know.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael,
> >>>
> >>> Great work. Design is very iterative. Keep pushing!
> >>>
> >>> Using the design explorations is a great way to stimulate a
> conversation
> >>> which can help us better understand the requirements. Perhaps we could
> >>> harvest the criteria for success in the thread and capture in the wiki
> >>>
> >>> Then we can make the design review process less subjective by having
> >>> people review design explorations relative to stated goals.
> >>>
> >>> Also, the mailing list is tough place to review designs, can you post
> the
> >>> design explorations to the AOO UX wiki?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Michael Acevedo 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think I've come up with something that is simplistic on the eye but
> >>>> beautiful an lively.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still working on it but stay tuned.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>&g

Re: Windows 8 compatibility

[Michael Acevedo]

As far as I know, Windows 8 and AOO should work. When you open Apache
OpenOffice, it should work as a classic desktop application since there's
no "Metro" version of Apache OpenOffice available as of now.

At least according to the Microsoft Windows 8 compatibility center, Apache
OpenOffice 3.4 is compatible and does not require any tweaks from the users
end.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/win8/CompatCenter/ProductDetailsViewer?Type=Software&Name=OpenOffice&Vendor=Apache&ModelOrVersion=3&Locale=1033&BreadcrumbPath=Openoffice&tempOsid=win8

Hope you find this helpful.

On Saturday, December 29, 2012, F C. Costero wrote:

> There is a steady stream of questions on the Google Questions list about
> AOO compatibility with Windows 8. Some mention a problem with installation
> and others merely ask if AOO will work on that OS. No details of the
> installation problems have been provided, so I have no reason to believe
> there is a technical problem. Also, I haven't seen much traffic on the en
> or es forums on this issue. However, it seems the download pages could be
> clearer about compatibility. This one:
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo34.html
> doesn't mention Windows 8 at all. Is there any reason not to include
> Windows 8 on that page?
> Best regards,
> Francis
>


-- 
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Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Gianluca,

Yes, the asymmetry of the circles is intended. And the blue circle is the
largest of them all since it represents Write which is the word processor
component and the one that is the most commonly used in the office suite.

On Saturday, December 29, 2012, Gianluca Turconi wrote:

> Il 27/12/2012 5.07, Michael Acevedo ha scritto:
>
>> You can see the formal proposal in the Cwiki at Apache:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations>
>>
>
> May I ask if the asymmetry of the circles in this proposal:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/download/**
> attachments/27846912/AOO+Logo+**Proposals+8+and+9+downscaled.**
> jpg?version=1&**modificationDate=1356578507000<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27846912/AOO+Logo+Proposals+8+and+9+downscaled.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1356578507000>
>
> is intended or not?
>
> I.e. the yellow circle nearly touches the borders of the logo, while the
> purple, orange and green circles are some pixels farther. Furthermore, the
> blue circle has a visible shift to the right of the logo.
>
> Regards,
> --
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Greetings to all in the mailing list and those in this AOO Logo Proposal
subject,

In this email, I would like to mention that I have added two new logo
proposals to the Apache OpenOffice Logo exploration wiki article. Now let
me explain what this new logo it's all about.

The new logo design does away with the orb and changes it for a gull ring
that rests under a blue background which itself rests on circles which are
inspired on the Adobe Flex logo multicolor scheme. The new gull ring while
being new, retains the familiar circular shape of the current OpenOffice
logo, but at the same time is a new take that pays respect to the orb. All
of these elements are wrapped in a modern black gradient icon than makes
the logo stand out. Furthermore, the new logo actually changes the look of
the word OpenOffice into a more modern non-capitalized "openoffice" word
design (also an inspiration from the Adobe Flex project logo). The latter
serves the function of highlighting Apache as the owner of the project
(whose name is in capital letters), yet the non-capitalized "openoffice"
names takes presence by being written in a larger size font. Overall, the
new logo design is simple, clean, and modern.

Now that I have given a sense of the new logo, I would like to show you a
reveal video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-tOuhTm9Y

But there is one last detail, which actually is a testament to the power of
OpenOffice. The detail is that the logo that you see at the end of the
video was 99% made in Apache OpenOffice Draw.

Hope you liked the logo and the reveal video.

Happy Holidays!

You can see the formal proposal in the Cwiki at Apache:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> Greetings Kevin, I would not mind posting the logos to that AOO UX wiki.
> Thing is I don't know where it is or whether it is on the cwiki or mwiki
> (if it is on the latter, I need to request an account).
>
> Let me know.
>
>
> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kevin Grignon wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Great work. Design is very iterative. Keep pushing!
>>
>> Using the design explorations is a great way to stimulate a conversation
>> which can help us better understand the requirements. Perhaps we could
>> harvest the criteria for success in the thread and capture in the wiki
>>
>> Then we can make the design review process less subjective by having
>> people review design explorations relative to stated goals.
>>
>> Also, the mailing list is tough place to review designs, can you post the
>> design explorations to the AOO UX wiki?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>>
>> > I think I've come up with something that is simplistic on the eye but
>> > beautiful an lively.
>> >
>> > Still working on it but stay tuned.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Michael Acevedo 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> RGB,
>> >>
>> >> I see the ring as something different. The blue to me represents the
>> open
>> >> blue sky, and the ring around it as a frame to an opening of an open
>> world.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, RGB ES  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> 2012/12/22 janI 
>> >>>
>> >>>> I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better
>> >>> explain
>> >>>> what I mean.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart from
>> the
>> >>>> original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal:
>> >>>>  - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose
>> >>>>  - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function
>> >>>>
>> >>>> AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal
>> products
>> >>>> can only dream to go:
>> >>>> - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth.
>> >>>> - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language group
>> >>>> - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized
>> >>>> versions
>> >>>> - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider extented
>> >>>> product.
>> >>>> I could go on.
>&

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Greetings Kevin, I would not mind posting the logos to that AOO UX wiki.
Thing is I don't know where it is or whether it is on the cwiki or mwiki
(if it is on the latter, I need to request an account).

Let me know.

On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kevin Grignon wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Great work. Design is very iterative. Keep pushing!
>
> Using the design explorations is a great way to stimulate a conversation
> which can help us better understand the requirements. Perhaps we could
> harvest the criteria for success in the thread and capture in the wiki
>
> Then we can make the design review process less subjective by having
> people review design explorations relative to stated goals.
>
> Also, the mailing list is tough place to review designs, can you post the
> design explorations to the AOO UX wiki?
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>
> > I think I've come up with something that is simplistic on the eye but
> > beautiful an lively.
> >
> > Still working on it but stay tuned.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Michael Acevedo 
> wrote:
> >
> >> RGB,
> >>
> >> I see the ring as something different. The blue to me represents the
> open
> >> blue sky, and the ring around it as a frame to an opening of an open
> world.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, RGB ES  wrote:
> >>
> >>> 2012/12/22 janI 
> >>>
> >>>> I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better
> >>> explain
> >>>> what I mean.
> >>>>
> >>>> The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart from
> the
> >>>> original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value.
> >>>>
> >>>> A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal:
> >>>>  - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose
> >>>>  - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function
> >>>>
> >>>> AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal
> products
> >>>> can only dream to go:
> >>>> - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth.
> >>>> - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language group
> >>>> - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized
> >>>> versions
> >>>> - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider extented
> >>>> product.
> >>>> I could go on.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it is important that our logo signals this freedom and openess
> >>>> after all we are OPEN office.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> +1. The ring around the orb give the idea of boundaries, limits, and we
> >>> are
> >>> trying to go beyond every limit ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I know my design is not professional, it is NOT meant to be so please
> >>> dont
> >>>> judge it on that. It is simply a "thought out of the box", and
> >>> hopefully it
> >>>> can trigger some ideas.
> >>>>
> >>>> You can see my "proposal" here:
> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~jani/aoo.png
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I like the idea. No sure if it fits well on a page header,
> >>> but definitely is a good idea for announcements, t-shirts and a lot of
> >>> other situations where a big logo is needed.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Ricardo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Have a nice christmas, whereever you are in the world.
> >>>> Jan I.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 21 December 2012 20:56, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them shortly...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Have a good afternoon...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand <
> >>> armin.le.gr...@me.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi Michael,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> this (
> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/**
> >>>>>> content/images/AOO_logos/<
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/>



-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

I think I've come up with something that is simplistic on the eye but
beautiful an lively.

Still working on it but stay tuned.


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> RGB,
>
> I see the ring as something different. The blue to me represents the open
> blue sky, and the ring around it as a frame to an opening of an open world.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, RGB ES  wrote:
>
>> 2012/12/22 janI 
>>
>> > I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better
>> explain
>> > what I mean.
>> >
>> > The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart from the
>> > original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value.
>> >
>> > A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal:
>> >   - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose
>> >   - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function
>> >
>> > AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal products
>> > can only dream to go:
>> > - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth.
>> > - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language group
>> > - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized
>> > versions
>> > - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider extented
>> > product.
>> > I could go on.
>> >
>> > I think it is important that our logo signals this freedom and openess
>> > after all we are OPEN office.
>> >
>>
>> +1. The ring around the orb give the idea of boundaries, limits, and we
>> are
>> trying to go beyond every limit ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I know my design is not professional, it is NOT meant to be so please
>> dont
>> > judge it on that. It is simply a "thought out of the box", and
>> hopefully it
>> > can trigger some ideas.
>> >
>> > You can see my "proposal" here:
>> > http://people.apache.org/~jani/aoo.png
>>
>>
>> I like the idea. No sure if it fits well on a page header,
>> but definitely is a good idea for announcements, t-shirts and a lot of
>> other situations where a big logo is needed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Have a nice christmas, whereever you are in the world.
>> > Jan I.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 21 December 2012 20:56, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them shortly...
>> > >
>> > > Have a good afternoon...
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand <
>> armin.le.gr...@me.com
>> > > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Michael,
>> > > >
>> > > > this (
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/**
>> > > > content/images/AOO_logos/<
>> > >
>> >
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>> > > >)
>> > > > might help, these are the checked-in logos. You can access it with a
>> > > > browser. Look at the SVG directory there; I am not sure if the
>> complete
>> > > > gulls will be extractable; I fear they are 'cut', but maybe
>> repaired by
>> > > > using the other wing.
>> > > >
>> > > > Looking forward to your suggestions :)
>> > > >
>> > > > Sincerely,
>> > > > Armin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 21.12.2012 17:48, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hello Armin,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo
>> > but
>> > > >> desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung
>> case
>> > > >> where
>> > > >> they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on
>> > their
>> > > >> flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is
>> > > >> actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last
>> jpeg
>> > > file
>> > > >> I
>> > > >> sent yesterday.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> All of these are good sugges

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

RGB,

I see the ring as something different. The blue to me represents the open
blue sky, and the ring around it as a frame to an opening of an open world.


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, RGB ES  wrote:

> 2012/12/22 janI 
>
> > I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better explain
> > what I mean.
> >
> > The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart from the
> > original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value.
> >
> > A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal:
> >   - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose
> >   - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function
> >
> > AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal products
> > can only dream to go:
> > - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth.
> > - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language group
> > - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized
> > versions
> > - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider extented
> > product.
> > I could go on.
> >
> > I think it is important that our logo signals this freedom and openess
> > after all we are OPEN office.
> >
>
> +1. The ring around the orb give the idea of boundaries, limits, and we are
> trying to go beyond every limit ;)
>
>
>
> >
> > I know my design is not professional, it is NOT meant to be so please
> dont
> > judge it on that. It is simply a "thought out of the box", and hopefully
> it
> > can trigger some ideas.
> >
> > You can see my "proposal" here:
> > http://people.apache.org/~jani/aoo.png
>
>
> I like the idea. No sure if it fits well on a page header,
> but definitely is a good idea for announcements, t-shirts and a lot of
> other situations where a big logo is needed.
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > Have a nice christmas, whereever you are in the world.
> > Jan I.
> >
> >
> > On 21 December 2012 20:56, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them shortly...
> > >
> > > Have a good afternoon...
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Michael,
> > > >
> > > > this (
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/**
> > > > content/images/AOO_logos/<
> > >
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
> > > >)
> > > > might help, these are the checked-in logos. You can access it with a
> > > > browser. Look at the SVG directory there; I am not sure if the
> complete
> > > > gulls will be extractable; I fear they are 'cut', but maybe repaired
> by
> > > > using the other wing.
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to your suggestions :)
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Armin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 21.12.2012 17:48, Michael Acevedo wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello Armin,
> > > >>
> > > >> I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo
> > but
> > > >> desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung
> case
> > > >> where
> > > >> they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on
> > their
> > > >> flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is
> > > >> actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last jpeg
> > > file
> > > >> I
> > > >> sent yesterday.
> > > >>
> > > >> All of these are good suggestions and I am now thinking of something
> > on
> > > >> updating the orb, maybe keeping the basic shape of the logo which
> is a
> > > >> circle. I am rambbling here but I might be able to come up with
> > > something
> > > >> tangible during the next few hours.
> > > >>
> > > >> Now the only thing I would need to find is an EPS or PSD
> > > >> high-res version of the AOO gulls. Where can I find that?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Friday, December 21, 2012, Armin Le Grand wrote:
> > &g

Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

[Michael Acevedo]

Just saw the logo in the page. It looks very nice and funny.

On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Michael Acevedo wrote:

> No problem, it was very easy to do.
>
> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/2012 04:13 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>>
>> Jahl,
>>
>> I've uploaded secondary versions of the holiday logo with the corrections
>> that you requested on returning the colors of the word OpenOffice to its
>> original one.
>>
>> AOOHolidayLogos | 
>> 102338277738893050711<https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA>
>>
>> All of them are at the highest resolution available.
>>
>>
>> Michael --
>>
>> This is very cute, and thanks for doing this. I love it! :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, janI  wrote:
>>
>>  The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would
>> be
>> just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion
>>
>> and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice.
>>
>> Have a nice evening/day
>> jan
>>
>> On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>>
>>  Jahl,
>>
>> Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color
>> then? It's a quick fix.
>>
>> On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote:
>>
>>  I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that
>>
>> the
>>
>> logo as such should be our current logo.
>>
>> You really have a touch for design !!
>>
>> Jan I.
>>
>> On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo >
>> >
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hello Andrea,
>>
>> I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible
>>
>> on
>>
>> the
>>
>> link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the
>>
>> coloring
>>
>> of
>>
>> the words "Open" and "Office" with the colors of the season. The
>>
>> change
>>
>> is
>>
>> nothing out of this world.
>>
>> You may see the two variants here:
>>
>>
>> AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711<
>>
>>
>>  AOOHolidayLogos | 
>> 102338277738893050711<https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA&feat=directlink>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope you like them.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
>>
>> pesce...@apache.org
>>
>> 
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Michael Acevedo wrote:
>>
>>  I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can
>>
>> see
>>
>> --**--**
>> 
>> MzK
>>
>> "No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
>>  -- Aesop
>>
>
>
> --
> Best,
> Michael
>
>

-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

[Michael Acevedo]

No problem, it was very easy to do.

On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:

>
>
> On 12/21/2012 04:13 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
>> Jahl,
>>
>> I've uploaded secondary versions of the holiday logo with the corrections
>> that you requested on returning the colors of the word OpenOffice to its
>> original one.
>>
>> AOOHolidayLogos | 
>> 102338277738893050711<https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA>
>>
>> All of them are at the highest resolution available.
>>
>
> Michael --
>
> This is very cute, and thanks for doing this. I love it! :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, janI  wrote:
>
>  The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be
> just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion
>
> and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice.
>
> Have a nice evening/day
> jan
>
> On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>
>  Jahl,
>
> Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color
> then? It's a quick fix.
>
> On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote:
>
>  I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that
>
> the
>
> logo as such should be our current logo.
>
> You really have a touch for design !!
>
> Jan I.
>
> On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo 
> >
>
> wrote:
>
>  Hello Andrea,
>
> I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible
>
> on
>
> the
>
> link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the
>
> coloring
>
> of
>
> the words "Open" and "Office" with the colors of the season. The
>
> change
>
> is
>
> nothing out of this world.
>
> You may see the two variants here:
>
>
> AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711<
>
>
>  AOOHolidayLogos | 
> 102338277738893050711<https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA&feat=directlink>
>
>
>
> Hope you like them.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
>
> pesce...@apache.org
>
> 
>
> wrote:
>
>
>  Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
>  I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can
>
> see
>
> --**--**
> 
> MzK
>
> "No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
>  -- Aesop
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

[Michael Acevedo]

Jahl,

I've uploaded secondary versions of the holiday logo with the corrections
that you requested on returning the colors of the word OpenOffice to its
original one.

https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA

All of them are at the highest resolution available.


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, janI  wrote:

> The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be
> just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion
>
> and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice.
>
> Have a nice evening/day
> jan
>
> On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>
> > Jahl,
> >
> > Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color
> > then? It's a quick fix.
> >
> > On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote:
> >
> > > I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that
> the
> > > logo as such should be our current logo.
> > >
> > > You really have a touch for design !!
> > >
> > > Jan I.
> > >
> > > On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo  > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Andrea,
> > > >
> > > > I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible
> on
> > > the
> > > > link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the
> coloring
> > > of
> > > > the words "Open" and "Office" with the colors of the season. The
> change
> > > is
> > > > nothing out of this world.
> > > >
> > > > You may see the two variants here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711<
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA&feat=directlink
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope you like them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
> pesce...@apache.org
> > 
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Michael Acevedo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can
> > see
> > > > >> them.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could
> see
> > > > > them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or
> > somewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the
> > word
> > > > >> OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season.
> > > > >> Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word
> > > > >> OpenOffice remains the same...
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But
> with
> > > the
> > > > > logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the
> logo
> > is
> > > > OK,
> > > > > while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided,
> to
> > > make
> > > > > sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a
> > > day,
> > > > > and there are enough OpenOffice "ripoff" sites around for visitors
> to
> > > be
> > > > > quite paranoid).
> > > > >
> > > > > So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of
> > > altering
> > > > > the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be
> > > happy
> > > > > to see #1 and #2 above too!
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >   Andrea.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best,
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Michael
> >
>



-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

[Michael Acevedo]

The Trademark sign is there. I will perform the fix tonight and upload it
to the same album.

On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote:

> The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be
> just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion
>
> and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice.
>
> Have a nice evening/day
> jan
>
> On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo >
> wrote:
>
> > Jahl,
> >
> > Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color
> > then? It's a quick fix.
> >
> > On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote:
> >
> > > I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that
> the
> > > logo as such should be our current logo.
> > >
> > > You really have a touch for design !!
> > >
> > > Jan I.
> > >
> > > On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo 
> > > 
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Andrea,
> > > >
> > > > I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible
> on
> > > the
> > > > link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the
> coloring
> > > of
> > > > the words "Open" and "Office" with the colors of the season. The
> change
> > > is
> > > > nothing out of this world.
> > > >
> > > > You may see the two variants here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711<
> > AOOHolidayLogos | 
> > 102338277738893050711<https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA&feat=directlink>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope you like them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti <
> pesce...@apache.org 
> > 
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Michael Acevedo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can
> > see
> > > > >> them.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could
> see
> > > > > them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or
> > somewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the
> > word
> > > > >> OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season.
> > > > >> Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word
> > > > >> OpenOffice remains the same...
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But
> with
> > > the
> > > > > logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the
> logo
> > is
> > > > OK,
> > > > > while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided,
> to
> > > make
> > > > > sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a
> > > day,
> > > > > and there are enough OpenOffice "ripoff" sites around for visitors
> to
> > > be
> > > > > quite paranoid).
> > > > >
> > > > > So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of
> > > altering
> > > > > the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be
> > > happy
> > > > > to see #1 and #2 above too!
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >   Andrea.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best,
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Michael
> >
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

[Michael Acevedo]

Jahl,

Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color
then? It's a quick fix.

On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote:

> I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the
> logo as such should be our current logo.
>
> You really have a touch for design !!
>
> Jan I.
>
> On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo >
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Andrea,
> >
> > I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on
> the
> > link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring
> of
> > the words "Open" and "Office" with the colors of the season. The change
> is
> > nothing out of this world.
> >
> > You may see the two variants here:
> >
> >
> > AOOHolidayLogos | 
> > 102338277738893050711<https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA&feat=directlink>
> >
> > Hope you like them.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti 
> > 
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Michael Acevedo wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see
> > >> them.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see
> > > them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word
> > >> OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season.
> > >> Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word
> > >> OpenOffice remains the same...
> > >>
> > >
> > > Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with
> the
> > > logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is
> > OK,
> > > while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to
> make
> > > sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a
> day,
> > > and there are enough OpenOffice "ripoff" sites around for visitors to
> be
> > > quite paranoid).
> > >
> > > So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of
> altering
> > > the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be
> happy
> > > to see #1 and #2 above too!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >   Andrea.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Michael
> >
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

[Michael Acevedo]

Hello Andrea,

I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the
link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of
the words "Open" and "Office" with the colors of the season. The change is
nothing out of this world.

You may see the two variants here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA&feat=directlink

Hope you like them.


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
>> I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see
>> them.
>>
>
> Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see
> them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere.
>
>
>  Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word
>> OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season.
>> Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word
>> OpenOffice remains the same...
>>
>
> Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the
> logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK,
> while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make
> sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day,
> and there are enough OpenOffice "ripoff" sites around for visitors to be
> quite paranoid).
>
> So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering
> the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy
> to see #1 and #2 above too!
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>



-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them shortly...

Have a good afternoon...

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> this (https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/**
> content/images/AOO_logos/<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/>)
> might help, these are the checked-in logos. You can access it with a
> browser. Look at the SVG directory there; I am not sure if the complete
> gulls will be extractable; I fear they are 'cut', but maybe repaired by
> using the other wing.
>
> Looking forward to your suggestions :)
>
> Sincerely,
> Armin
>
>
> On 21.12.2012 17:48, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
>> Hello Armin,
>>
>> I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo but
>> desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung case
>> where
>> they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on their
>> flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is
>> actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last jpeg file
>> I
>> sent yesterday.
>>
>> All of these are good suggestions and I am now thinking of something on
>> updating the orb, maybe keeping the basic shape of the logo which is a
>> circle. I am rambbling here but I might be able to come up with something
>> tangible during the next few hours.
>>
>> Now the only thing I would need to find is an EPS or PSD
>> high-res version of the AOO gulls. Where can I find that?
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 21, 2012, Armin Le Grand wrote:
>>
>>   Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> thanks for investigating here. While I like the original orb and the
>>> colored rects seem to lead to windows trademark stuff, what about:
>>>
>>> - only slightly changing the AOO logo
>>> - replacing the orb with a shape also very popular today
>>> - keeping the color, keeping the seagulls
>>> ...but as shape, take the now famous 'app' form - a rounded rectangle
>>> instead of the orb, using exactly the dimensions of app logos, and the
>>> color blending of app logos (they use some 'bow' on the middle, making
>>> the
>>> upper half slightly lighter than the lower one).
>>> Just as on iOS devices. Maybe looking nice ;-) Will look modern :-)
>>>
>>> HTH!
>>> Sincerely,
>>>  Armin
>>>
>>> On 20.12.2012 02:33, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>>>
>>>  Greetings to the AOO Team!
>>>>
>>>> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in
>>>> touch
>>>> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
>>>> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
>>>> Incubator.
>>>>
>>>> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a
>>>> logo
>>>> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>>>> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
>>>> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
>>>> version
>>>> of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice
>>>> orb,
>>>> but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
>>>> that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc,
>>>> Impress,
>>>> and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
>>>>
>>>> Without further introductions, below I present my official submission
>>>> for
>>>> the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>>>>
>>>> This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that
>>>> would
>>>> be used for our webpage and some other materials.
>>>>
>>>> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/**UNJpH6G1sxI/**
>>>> ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%
>>>> 2520Small%2520copy.jpg>>> lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/**ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/**
>>>> AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%**2520Small%2520copy.jpg<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes
>>>> the
>>>> proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
>>>> screen that appears at the launch of the application.
>>>>
>>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/**UNJpH8UiKiI/**
>>>> ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png<
>>>> https://lh4.**googleusercontent.com/-**uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/**
>>>> ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.**png<https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

[Michael Acevedo]

I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them.

Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word
OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season.

Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice
remains the same...

Hope you like them...


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing.
>
> Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo
> online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the years,
> and he provided a "holiday version" of the old logo temporarily available
> at http://imagebin.org/240155
>
> Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of
> http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_**v2_copy.png
> to temporarily replace the one on the website?
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>



-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Hello Armin,

I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo but
desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung case where
they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on their
flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is
actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last jpeg file I
sent yesterday.

All of these are good suggestions and I am now thinking of something on
updating the orb, maybe keeping the basic shape of the logo which is a
circle. I am rambbling here but I might be able to come up with something
tangible during the next few hours.

Now the only thing I would need to find is an EPS or PSD
high-res version of the AOO gulls. Where can I find that?

Thanks for the suggestions.


On Friday, December 21, 2012, Armin Le Grand wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> thanks for investigating here. While I like the original orb and the
> colored rects seem to lead to windows trademark stuff, what about:
>
> - only slightly changing the AOO logo
> - replacing the orb with a shape also very popular today
> - keeping the color, keeping the seagulls
> ...but as shape, take the now famous 'app' form - a rounded rectangle
> instead of the orb, using exactly the dimensions of app logos, and the
> color blending of app logos (they use some 'bow' on the middle, making the
> upper half slightly lighter than the lower one).
> Just as on iOS devices. Maybe looking nice ;-) Will look modern :-)
>
> HTH!
> Sincerely,
> Armin
>
> On 20.12.2012 02:33, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
>> Greetings to the AOO Team!
>>
>> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
>> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
>> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
>> Incubator.
>>
>> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
>> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
>> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
>> version
>> of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
>> but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
>> that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc,
>> Impress,
>> and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
>>
>> Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
>> the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>>
>> This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
>> be used for our webpage and some other materials.
>>
>> https://lh3.googleusercontent.**com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/**
>> ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%**
>> 2520Small%2520copy.jpg<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg>
>>
>> There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
>> proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
>> screen that appears at the launch of the application.
>>
>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.**com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/**
>> ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.**png<https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png>
>>
>> Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
>>
>>
>

-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

It's quite unfortunate that this has been the reaction, since it was never
intended...

Let me see how can I fix that.

On Friday, December 21, 2012, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 20.12.2012 13:35, janI wrote:
>
>> I am also no desgner, and like the more fresh look.
>>
>> However I showed to a friend visiting, and the first reaction was..."oooh
>> AOO is already ready for windows8", it seems that the 4 squares (not
>> identical) are used quite a lot inside windows8.
>>
>>
> That was more or less also my reaction - I am not alone.
> The squares really looking like "Windows 8 tiles".
>
> Thus, I am currently not favor of this approach.
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>
>  If that is the case, we should change itmaybe not use squares but e.g.
> balloons.
>
> We also have to remember that it must be convertable (or redrawn) as a
> favicon, that is only 16x16.
>
> thanks for taking time to make the proposal, and despite my concerns it is
> the best I have seen so far !
>
> Jan.
>
> On 20 December 2012 11:02, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
>
>  On 12/20/12 6:14 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
>
> imacat,
>Your comments are so professional! :-)
>Personally I like this logo design more comparing to other candidates
>
> in
>
> wiki<
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations>
>
> .
> Thanks Michael!
>While we may also want to update the app icon design as the next step
>
> for
>
> consistent L&F...
>
>
> I think Michaels proposal is the beginning of hopefully more. I
> personally see a reused old orb + some new elements. But the squares
> remind me to windows and the colors don't fit really together from my
> point of view.
>
> We should think about something really new and fresh with or without the
> gulls.
>
> We should think for what OpenOffice and Apache stands for
>
> - free office software for the public good
> - for many million users all over the world
> - many languages
> - 
>
> We should think about something that can maybe visualize some of these
> attributes and can transport the message in one or multiple combined
> graphical elements.
>
> Too bad that I am no designer, but I will try to think about ideas and
> will at least share my ideas with you.
>
> Juergen
>
>
>  - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
>
>
> 2012/12/20 imacat 
>
>   Some honest thoughts:
>
>   1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of the
> plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not.
>
>   2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four
> components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are
> not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple.  And we have other components such
> as Math and Draw.
>
>   3. The directions of the lights are contradictory.  The lights of
> the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the
> plate of the orb) come from right.
>
>  But still, thanks you very much for this great effort.
>
> On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said:
>
> Greetings to the AOO Team!
>
> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in
>
> touch
>
> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> Incubator.
>
> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a
>
> logo
>
> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice
>
> Google+
>
> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
>
>

-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Maybe we want something more simplistic then... Let's see what else can I
come up with, something without the squares perhaps?

At least, we all seem to agree on the way the text for the name
"OpenOffice" looks.

Thanks for your insight.

On Friday, December 21, 2012, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 12/21/12 3:47 AM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
> > Hello again AOO team.
> >
> > As promised, I've 5 additional modified logos for the project (the last
> > jpeg attachment I sent with 4 logos was modified a bit with logos 1 and
> > 3 being slightly tweaked) and can be found in the Cwiki at:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations
> >
> > I've also attached the same logo palletes on this email message.
> >
> > Hope you like these new logos.
>
> I think the orb with the mirror and little 3d effect don't fit in all
> proposals.
>
> We should also think about less colors, keeping in mind that we want use
> it for T-Shirts, mugs, ... and printing/production costs are always
> higher with many colors as far as know. I don't know if it's really
> important.
>
> Juergen
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Michael Acevedo 
> > 
> > <mailto:vea1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Here's an additional logo proposal. It has four different designs.
> >
> > Hope you like them.
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, December 20, 2012, janI wrote:
> >
> > I really like the pinwheel...and combine it with the suggestion
> of
> > replacing the flat color with small text, would just make it
> > perfect.
> >
> > I also think it is ok, that blue is in 3d and the pins flats,
> > that seems
> > quite natural to me.
> >
> > Jan.
> >
> >
> > On 20 December 2012 19:51, imacat 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2012/12/20 13:06, Michael Acevedo said:
> > > >  Here's my personal insight on the logo decisions when
> > it comes to
> > > the
> > > > amount of squares and coloring scheme. The first is that I
> > tried for
> > > hours
> > > > how to integrate six squares into the logo and the problem
> > that arose was
> > > > that the logo looked too crowded. As a result I had to
> strike a
> > > compromise,
> > > > pick the four applications or modules that embody an office
> > suite in
> > > > general which are the word processor, spreadsheet,
> > presentation module,
> > > and
> > > > database creator. OpenOffice is the only office suite that
> > comes to
> > > memory
> > > > that does have a formula editor and a radically unique
> > graphics drawing
> > > > program (closest analogue is Microsoft Publisher but Draw is
> > a different
> > > > animal).
> > >
> > > I see.  But there are other ways of representing the
> > OpenOffice
> > > components instead of the square boxes.  I tried to make some
> as
> > > attached, although they are not finished works.  Please
> > forgive me that
> > > I'm not a designer.  We can have a more lively design than
> > square boxes.
> > >
> > > We can give up this idea of showing the components if that
> > is too
> > > difficult.  But for some people, draw is more important than
> > base.  It
> > > is simply not right to show only four components.
> > >
> > > >  Moving now to the color scheme, the colors for the
> > squares that
> > > > represent the office suite core components were inspired
> > upon the AOO
> > > start
> > > > center which has icons for the word, spreadsheet,
> > presentation, and
> > > > database modules. If you look closely, each of the icons
> > there have a
> > > color
> > > > code, the Writer document icon has blue accents, Calc
> > document icon has
> > > > green accents, Impress icon has orange accents, and the Base
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Hello again AOO team.

As promised, I've 5 additional modified logos for the project (the last
jpeg attachment I sent with 4 logos was modified a bit with logos 1 and 3
being slightly tweaked) and can be found in the Cwiki at:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations

I've also attached the same logo palletes on this email message.

Hope you like these new logos.


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> Here's an additional logo proposal. It has four different designs.
>
> Hope you like them.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 20, 2012, janI wrote:
>
>> I really like the pinwheel...and combine it with the suggestion of
>> replacing the flat color with small text, would just make it perfect.
>>
>> I also think it is ok, that blue is in 3d and the pins flats, that seems
>> quite natural to me.
>>
>> Jan.
>>
>>
>> On 20 December 2012 19:51, imacat  wrote:
>>
>> > On 2012/12/20 13:06, Michael Acevedo said:
>> > >  Here's my personal insight on the logo decisions when it comes to
>> > the
>> > > amount of squares and coloring scheme. The first is that I tried for
>> > hours
>> > > how to integrate six squares into the logo and the problem that arose
>> was
>> > > that the logo looked too crowded. As a result I had to strike a
>> > compromise,
>> > > pick the four applications or modules that embody an office suite in
>> > > general which are the word processor, spreadsheet, presentation
>> module,
>> > and
>> > > database creator. OpenOffice is the only office suite that comes to
>> > memory
>> > > that does have a formula editor and a radically unique graphics
>> drawing
>> > > program (closest analogue is Microsoft Publisher but Draw is a
>> different
>> > > animal).
>> >
>> > I see.  But there are other ways of representing the OpenOffice
>> > components instead of the square boxes.  I tried to make some as
>> > attached, although they are not finished works.  Please forgive me that
>> > I'm not a designer.  We can have a more lively design than square boxes.
>> >
>> > We can give up this idea of showing the components if that is too
>> > difficult.  But for some people, draw is more important than base.  It
>> > is simply not right to show only four components.
>> >
>> > >  Moving now to the color scheme, the colors for the squares that
>> > > represent the office suite core components were inspired upon the AOO
>> > start
>> > > center which has icons for the word, spreadsheet, presentation, and
>> > > database modules. If you look closely, each of the icons there have a
>> > color
>> > > code, the Writer document icon has blue accents, Calc document icon
>> has
>> > > green accents, Impress icon has orange accents, and the Base icon has
>> > > violet accents. Therefore, it was a logical decision to color the
>> squares
>> > > accordingly.
>> >
>> > I know, but these colors do not match the colors of the components.
>> >  That's why I said for the missing connection between the components and
>> > the colors.  Writer is silver-blue, not blue.  Base is dark red, not
>> > purple.  Seeing the colors on the four plates cannot remind people about
>> > our four components.
>> >
>> > >  When it comes to the lighting of the logo... I beg to differ.
>> I'll
>> > > need to sleep over that to see whether or not it is worth considering
>> > > tweaking the lighting. In my honest opinion, I think the current
>> lighting
>> > > works fine for the logo.
>> >
>> > Please sleep well and take care of yourself.
>> >
>> > We do not have to stick on the lights of the orb.  My original point
>> > was about the contrary between the lights and the view angle of the orb
>> > and the plates.  I did not mean the plates need to follow the orb.  I
>> > just meant that the logo needs a consistent look and feel, consistent
>> > lights and view angles.  Or it is simply just not right.
>> >
>> > If the orb is 3-D with the focused light, all other parts has to be
>> > 3-D with focused light.  If the plate is flat, all other parts has to be
>> > flat.
>> >
>> > Actually, we may give up or tweak the orb when necessary.  If we
>> > have to retain the old design for every logo revision, the only thing we
>> > can do is adding.  Then, we will have a very complicated logo in less
>> > than 3 years.  That is not right for the design work.
>> >
>> > I personally like the 3-D and focused light effect.  If it is too
>> > hard to apply the 3-D and focused light effect on other parts of the
>> > logo, we can simply remove the existing lights and apply new light and
>> > view angle on everything.  The only point is consistent.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the feedback.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM, imacat 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Some honest thoughts:
>> > >>
>> > >>  1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of the
>>
>
>
> --
> Best,
> Michael
>
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Here's an additional logo proposal. It has four different designs.

Hope you like them.

On Thursday, December 20, 2012, janI wrote:

> I really like the pinwheel...and combine it with the suggestion of
> replacing the flat color with small text, would just make it perfect.
>
> I also think it is ok, that blue is in 3d and the pins flats, that seems
> quite natural to me.
>
> Jan.
>
>
> On 20 December 2012 19:51, imacat  wrote:
>
> > On 2012/12/20 13:06, Michael Acevedo said:
> > >  Here's my personal insight on the logo decisions when it comes to
> > the
> > > amount of squares and coloring scheme. The first is that I tried for
> > hours
> > > how to integrate six squares into the logo and the problem that arose
> was
> > > that the logo looked too crowded. As a result I had to strike a
> > compromise,
> > > pick the four applications or modules that embody an office suite in
> > > general which are the word processor, spreadsheet, presentation module,
> > and
> > > database creator. OpenOffice is the only office suite that comes to
> > memory
> > > that does have a formula editor and a radically unique graphics drawing
> > > program (closest analogue is Microsoft Publisher but Draw is a
> different
> > > animal).
> >
> > I see.  But there are other ways of representing the OpenOffice
> > components instead of the square boxes.  I tried to make some as
> > attached, although they are not finished works.  Please forgive me that
> > I'm not a designer.  We can have a more lively design than square boxes.
> >
> > We can give up this idea of showing the components if that is too
> > difficult.  But for some people, draw is more important than base.  It
> > is simply not right to show only four components.
> >
> > >  Moving now to the color scheme, the colors for the squares that
> > > represent the office suite core components were inspired upon the AOO
> > start
> > > center which has icons for the word, spreadsheet, presentation, and
> > > database modules. If you look closely, each of the icons there have a
> > color
> > > code, the Writer document icon has blue accents, Calc document icon has
> > > green accents, Impress icon has orange accents, and the Base icon has
> > > violet accents. Therefore, it was a logical decision to color the
> squares
> > > accordingly.
> >
> > I know, but these colors do not match the colors of the components.
> >  That's why I said for the missing connection between the components and
> > the colors.  Writer is silver-blue, not blue.  Base is dark red, not
> > purple.  Seeing the colors on the four plates cannot remind people about
> > our four components.
> >
> > >  When it comes to the lighting of the logo... I beg to differ. I'll
> > > need to sleep over that to see whether or not it is worth considering
> > > tweaking the lighting. In my honest opinion, I think the current
> lighting
> > > works fine for the logo.
> >
> > Please sleep well and take care of yourself.
> >
> > We do not have to stick on the lights of the orb.  My original point
> > was about the contrary between the lights and the view angle of the orb
> > and the plates.  I did not mean the plates need to follow the orb.  I
> > just meant that the logo needs a consistent look and feel, consistent
> > lights and view angles.  Or it is simply just not right.
> >
> > If the orb is 3-D with the focused light, all other parts has to be
> > 3-D with focused light.  If the plate is flat, all other parts has to be
> > flat.
> >
> > Actually, we may give up or tweak the orb when necessary.  If we
> > have to retain the old design for every logo revision, the only thing we
> > can do is adding.  Then, we will have a very complicated logo in less
> > than 3 years.  That is not right for the design work.
> >
> > I personally like the 3-D and focused light effect.  If it is too
> > hard to apply the 3-D and focused light effect on other parts of the
> > logo, we can simply remove the existing lights and apply new light and
> > view angle on everything.  The only point is consistent.
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the feedback.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM, imacat 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Some honest thoughts:
> > >>
> > >>  1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of the
>


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Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

try to think about ideas
> and
> > > > will at least share my ideas with you.
> > > >
> > > > Juergen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - Shenfeng (Simon)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/12/20 imacat 
> > > > >
> > > > >> Some honest thoughts:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of
> the
> > > > >> plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have
> not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four
> > > > >> components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base
> > are
> > > > >> not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple.  And we have other components
> > such
> > > > >> as Math and Draw.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  3. The directions of the lights are contradictory.  The
> lights
> > of
> > > > >> the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also
> > the
> > > > >> plate of the orb) come from right.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But still, thanks you very much for this great effort.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said:
> > > > >>> Greetings to the AOO Team!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back
> in
> > > > touch
> > > > >>> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> > > > >>> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the
> > > Apache
> > > > >>> Incubator.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally
> > submit a
> > > > >> logo
> > > > >>> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> > > > >>> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice
> > > > Google+
> > > > >>> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a
> second
> > > > >> version
> > > > >>> of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache
> > OpenOffice
> > > > orb,
> > > > >>> but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored
> > > squares
> > > > >>> that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer,
> Calc,
> > > > >> Impress,
> > > > >>> and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Without further introductions, below I present my official
> > submission
> > > > for
> > > > >>> the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project
> that
> > > > would
> > > > >>> be used for our webpage and some other materials.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but
> > > changes
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>> proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the
> > > splash
> > > > >>> screen that appears at the launch of the application.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > >> imacat ^_*' 
> > > > >> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc
> > > > >>
> > > > >> <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/
> > > > >> Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/
> > > > >> Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/
> > > > >> OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/
> > > > >> EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
> > > > >> Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Good Evening Imacat,

 Here's my personal insight on the logo decisions when it comes to the
amount of squares and coloring scheme. The first is that I tried for hours
how to integrate six squares into the logo and the problem that arose was
that the logo looked too crowded. As a result I had to strike a compromise,
pick the four applications or modules that embody an office suite in
general which are the word processor, spreadsheet, presentation module, and
database creator. OpenOffice is the only office suite that comes to memory
that does have a formula editor and a radically unique graphics drawing
program (closest analogue is Microsoft Publisher but Draw is a different
animal).

 Moving now to the color scheme, the colors for the squares that
represent the office suite core components were inspired upon the AOO start
center which has icons for the word, spreadsheet, presentation, and
database modules. If you look closely, each of the icons there have a color
code, the Writer document icon has blue accents, Calc document icon has
green accents, Impress icon has orange accents, and the Base icon has
violet accents. Therefore, it was a logical decision to color the squares
accordingly.

 When it comes to the lighting of the logo... I beg to differ. I'll
need to sleep over that to see whether or not it is worth considering
tweaking the lighting. In my honest opinion, I think the current lighting
works fine for the logo.

Thanks for the feedback.



On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM, imacat  wrote:

> Some honest thoughts:
>
>  1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of the
> plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not.
>
>  2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four
> components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are
> not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple.  And we have other components such
> as Math and Draw.
>
>  3. The directions of the lights are contradictory.  The lights of
> the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the
> plate of the orb) come from right.
>
> But still, thanks you very much for this great effort.
>
> On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said:
> > Greetings to the AOO Team!
> >
> > Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
> > with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> > a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> > Incubator.
> >
> > Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a
> logo
> > proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> > Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
> > community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
> version
> > of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
> > but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
> > that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc,
> Impress,
> > and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
> >
> > Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
> > the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >
> > This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
> > be used for our webpage and some other materials.
> >
> >
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
> >
> > There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes
> the
> > proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
> > screen that appears at the launch of the application.
> >
> >
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
> >
> > Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> imacat ^_*' 
> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc
>
> <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/
> Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/
> Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/
> OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/
> EducOO/OOo4Kids <http://www.openoffice.org/EducOO/OOo4Kids> Taiwan
> http://www.educoo.tw/
> Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/
>
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Thanks for your feedback Pedro!

I am happy you like it...


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:

> I like it!
>
> cheers,
>
> Pedro.
>
>
>
> >____________
> > Da: Michael Acevedo 
> >A: Apache OpenOffice ; Apache OpenOffice
> Marketing 
> >Inviato: Mercoledì 19 Dicembre 2012 20:33
> >Oggetto: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
> >
> >Greetings to the AOO Team!
> >
> >Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
> >with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> >a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> >Incubator.
> >
> >Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
> >proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
> >community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
> version
> >of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
> >but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
> >that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc,
> Impress,
> >and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
> >
> >Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
> >the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >
> >This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
> >be used for our webpage and some other materials.
> >
> >
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
> >
> >There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
> >proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
> >screen that appears at the launch of the application.
> >
> >
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
> >
> >Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
> >
> >--
> >Best,
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >
>



-- 
Best,
Michael

[PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Greetings to the AOO Team!

Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
Incubator.

Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version
of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress,
and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.

Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.

This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
be used for our webpage and some other materials.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg

There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
screen that appears at the launch of the application.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png

Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!

-- 
Best,
Michael