Re: AOO 4.1.3 announce - pt-BR translation
Thanks, Andrea --DONE! Warm regards,Sally From: Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:57 PM Subject: Re: AOO 4.1.3 announce - pt-BR translation Claudio Ferreia Filho wrote: > I don't know how is your strategy to publish the translations, but IMHO > they can be added in the announce at Apache Blog. Sally, could you please add a "Translations" link at the beginning of your post https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces and let it point at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Announcement where we are storing translations? (see the dev list archives if you need more context, but this is all we need at the moment) Thanks, Andrea.
Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day
Posted https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/301315097794596867 ...as well as sent to our media/analyst list :-) Cheers, Sally From: Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com To: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org; dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 23:21 Subject: Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day Thank you, Rob. This is great. I'm happy to support this with a tweet from @TheASF as well as send to our dedicated media/analyst list. Keep up the great work! -Sally [From the mobile; kindly excuse spelling/spacing/auto-correct anomalies] - Reply message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org Subject: Draft blog post: $21 million per day Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 7:39 PM https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=21_million_per_day Hoping to publish early next week. Regards, -Rob
Re: $21 million per day
Beautiful. Thanks so much, Roberto. This is hugely appreciated! Cheers chat soon, Sally From: Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org Cc: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net; ASF Marketing Publicity pr...@apache.org; market...@openoffice.apache.org market...@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 5:00 Subject: Re: $21 million per day On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org wrote: Hello Dave --great to hear from you, and with a wonderful subject :-) I'm happy to help, and can work with both Rob and Don (and whomever else would like to participate) on getting something formal out the door. Sally, happy to spread the news via SourceForge and our channel media if you wish so. Roberto Is there a timeframe in mind? Next week, I presume? Thanks in advance, Sally From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; ASF Marketing Publicity pr...@apache.org Cc: market...@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013, 15:54 Subject: Re: $21 million per day Hi Sally, Please see this message thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201302.mbox/%3CCAP-ksoiJx5QqRvAQpHTJJ2_VasPCji9gTi4R3PH8bg_ntwkJ9A%40mail.gmail.com%3E Rob is working on a blog post, but I think that this is something worthy of an ASF press release as it shows substantial value provided to the public. Thanks and Regards, Dave On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Yes, yes, we're a non-profit organization. We don't charge for Apache OpenOffice. We don't pay developers. But we still do produce something of value, and that value can be estimated. People need office productivity software. The main alternative to OpenOffice is Microsoft Office, perhaps the Home and Student edition. The latest version (2013) sells for $139.99 on Amazon. This is for the downloadable version. So I'm thinking more on this, and there is an assumption here that the price I pay for Office in the US is the same as anyone else pays around the world. But this is unlikely to be true. This is a classic example of where the fixed costs are in the development and are high, and the variable costs are in the media and distribution and are very low. So a global vendor's optimal strategy is to adjust the pricing country-by-country or region-by-region, to maximize their profits. They can drop the prince in some countries and raise it in others based on ability to pay. I'd love to have some help exploring the magnitude of these differences, to see if they are significant. Let's use the price Microsoft quotes for Home and Student 2013. We want the 1PC perpetual license, not the per-year subscription price. Start from here: http://office.microsoft.com. I had to then go to Products, For Home and Learn more. When I check the US price I get $139.99 When I check the German site (http://office.microsoft.com/de-de) I am quoted 139,00 €. That is $188.04 today. When I check the Australian website I am quoted $169.00 which is $174.42 USD. The Russian website quotes 3499.00 rubles, which is $116.30. So I'm seeing some higher and some lower. Does anyone see pricing that is outside of the range USD 116.30 - 188.04 ? This complicates the analysis, but I don't think it changes the story much. -Rob We have averaged 153K downloads per day of Apace OpenOffice over the last week. That is an average value to the public of $21.5 million per day. Or $7.833 billion (7.833 thousand million) per year. To put that in perspective, here are comparable annual sales figures for some familiar companies: -- Campbell Soup Company: $7.882 billion -- Royal Caribbean Cruises: $7.657 billion -- Mastercard, Inc: $7.391 billion -- OfficeMax: $7.094 billion So we're providing tremendous value to the public. We should be proud of what we've accomplished over the past decade. Note: We could certainly debate the exact value provided to users. Determining what a user would do if they did not get AOO for free is tricky. But the logic above is similar to how the BSA estimates losses to Microsoft from software piracy. They assume that the person who pirates Office would buy it if they did not pirate it. So it seems fair to use that same logic to estimate the value provided to users by a legal free alternative like Apache OpenOffice. Regards, -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received
Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day
Thank you, Rob. This is great. I'm happy to support this with a tweet from @TheASF as well as send to our dedicated media/analyst list. Keep up the great work! -Sally [From the mobile; kindly excuse spelling/spacing/auto-correct anomalies] - Reply message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org Subject: Draft blog post: $21 million per day Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 7:39 PM https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=21_million_per_day Hoping to publish early next week. Regards, -Rob
Re: $21 million per day
Hello Dave --great to hear from you, and with a wonderful subject :-) I'm happy to help, and can work with both Rob and Don (and whomever else would like to participate) on getting something formal out the door. Is there a timeframe in mind? Next week, I presume? Thanks in advance, Sally From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; ASF Marketing Publicity pr...@apache.org Cc: market...@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013, 15:54 Subject: Re: $21 million per day Hi Sally, Please see this message thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201302.mbox/%3CCAP-ksoiJx5QqRvAQpHTJJ2_VasPCji9gTi4R3PH8bg_ntwkJ9A%40mail.gmail.com%3E Rob is working on a blog post, but I think that this is something worthy of an ASF press release as it shows substantial value provided to the public. Thanks and Regards, Dave On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Yes, yes, we're a non-profit organization. We don't charge for Apache OpenOffice. We don't pay developers. But we still do produce something of value, and that value can be estimated. People need office productivity software. The main alternative to OpenOffice is Microsoft Office, perhaps the Home and Student edition. The latest version (2013) sells for $139.99 on Amazon. This is for the downloadable version. So I'm thinking more on this, and there is an assumption here that the price I pay for Office in the US is the same as anyone else pays around the world. But this is unlikely to be true. This is a classic example of where the fixed costs are in the development and are high, and the variable costs are in the media and distribution and are very low. So a global vendor's optimal strategy is to adjust the pricing country-by-country or region-by-region, to maximize their profits. They can drop the prince in some countries and raise it in others based on ability to pay. I'd love to have some help exploring the magnitude of these differences, to see if they are significant. Let's use the price Microsoft quotes for Home and Student 2013. We want the 1PC perpetual license, not the per-year subscription price. Start from here: http://office.microsoft.com. I had to then go to Products, For Home and Learn more. When I check the US price I get $139.99 When I check the German site (http://office.microsoft.com/de-de) I am quoted 139,00 €. That is $188.04 today. When I check the Australian website I am quoted $169.00 which is $174.42 USD. The Russian website quotes 3499.00 rubles, which is $116.30. So I'm seeing some higher and some lower. Does anyone see pricing that is outside of the range USD 116.30 - 188.04 ? This complicates the analysis, but I don't think it changes the story much. -Rob We have averaged 153K downloads per day of Apace OpenOffice over the last week. That is an average value to the public of $21.5 million per day. Or $7.833 billion (7.833 thousand million) per year. To put that in perspective, here are comparable annual sales figures for some familiar companies: -- Campbell Soup Company: $7.882 billion -- Royal Caribbean Cruises: $7.657 billion -- Mastercard, Inc: $7.391 billion -- OfficeMax: $7.094 billion So we're providing tremendous value to the public. We should be proud of what we've accomplished over the past decade. Note: We could certainly debate the exact value provided to users. Determining what a user would do if they did not get AOO for free is tricky. But the logic above is similar to how the BSA estimates losses to Microsoft from software piracy. They assume that the person who pirates Office would buy it if they did not pirate it. So it seems fair to use that same logic to estimate the value provided to users by a legal free alternative like Apache OpenOffice. Regards, -Rob
